General UFC Chit Chat/News

Xlami

That can't be right. He's 1-3 in his last 4. I can think of Middleweights who would have more credability in a No.1 contender fight for HW title. Really is no consistency when it comes to title shots.

Mellor

Xlami wrote: »

That can't be right. He's 1-3 in his last 4. I can think of Middleweights who would have more credability in a No.1 contender fight for HW title. Really is no consistency when it comes to title shots.

Whats the issue here?

Mir is steppign in for Overeem. Deserves it imo.
Bigfoot steps in to face Cain, reasonable fight for the number one contender spot really.

Nelson was never in the picture

MrStuffins

Xlami wrote: »

That can't be right. He's 1-3 in his last 4. I can think of Middleweights who would have more credability in a No.1 contender fight for HW title. Really is no consistency when it comes to title shots.

The only thing consistent here is Nelson's ability to talk absolute ballocks on Facebook!

Now he's not fighting Bigfoot he can move down to 205 like he also said on Facebook :rolleyes:

Ian Whelan

205 cheese burgers a month?

reganreggie

I would like to see Travis Brown fight a top 5 guy

Xlami

Mellor wrote: »

Whats the issue here?

Mir is steppign in for Overeem. Deserves it imo.
Bigfoot steps in to face Cain, reasonable fight for the number one contender spot really.

Nelson was never in the picture

Yeh sorry I took Roy's word as gospel. Would have been aggrieved if he was in a No.1 contender match. Hopefully we'll finally see the rematch from the IFL and they get Big Ben in to hand him his walking papers.

scudzilla

Rashad has said now that if the right opportunity came up he'd drop to 185!!

Does anyone think he could physically make this cut? It's a lot, considering he was a HW on TUF

MrStuffins

Roy Nelson is fighting Gabe Gonzaga, Dana just tweeted!

Professey Chin

MrStuffins wrote: »

Roy Nelson is fighting Gabe Gonzaga, Dana just tweeted!

That could be a great grappling match

Mellor

Xlami wrote: »

Yeh sorry I took Roy's word as gospel. Would have been aggrieved if he was in a No.1 contender match. Hopefully we'll finally see the rematch from the IFL and they get Big Ben in to hand him his walking papers.

Just ignore roy in future imo.

scudzilla wrote: »

Rashad has said now that if the right opportunity came up he'd drop to 185!!

Does anyone think he could physically make this cut? It's a lot, considering he was a HW on TUF

He was never really a HW. He was a 205er carrying a little extra weight. He was fighting in softer spots before TUF so he didn't need to be in the best shape. He wouldn't be cutting directly to 185 from here. That's about 35lbs. He's prob losing about 10lbs of mass and make a cut from about 205-210

Leeg17

From Dana's twitter:

8-0 Stipe Miocic vs 11-0 Shane Del Rosario is on!!!!

Leeg17

From the UFC Facebook:

Special UFC 147 Press Conference from Brazil will start in a half hour. Watch it live on ufc.com: http://on.ufc.com/I82XsK or at http://m.ufc.com/live on your mobile device.

Edit:

Silva vs. Sonnen, 7th July, confirmed.

MrStuffins

Silva v Sonnen won't be taking place in Brazil after all, it'll be at UFC 148 in Vegas

http://mmajunkie.com/news/28404/anderson-silva-vs-chael-sonnen-title-fight-moved-from-ufc-147-to-ufc-148.mma

Arawn

UFC probably wanted to be allowed back in brazil so decided not to risk Chael winning there

Leeg17

Dana:

UFC 149 July 21 Calgary, Canada
Heavyweight Bout
Cheick Kongo VS Minotauro Nogueira

liverbear

Big Nog will destroy kongo

El Guapo!

liverbear wrote: »

Big Nog will destroy kongo

Only if he can survive the nut shots.

riffmongous

Big MW match up Weidmann-Munoz, I cant wait for this

http://mmajunkie.com/news/28418/mark-munoz-vs-chris-weidman-headlines-ufc-on-fuel-tv-4-on-july-11.mma

This has to be for the no.1 contender spot, I think Weidmann might take it but it's going to be pretty close.

scudzilla

Enjoy, some serously funny shit!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq-7IJqoyaU

p to the e

Anheuser-Beusch warns UFC about fighters comments.

http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/news/399284/Anheuser-Busch-warns-UFC-about-fighters-comments/

Anheuser-Busch, a major sponsor of Ultimate Fighting Championship, has reprimanded the organization for remarks made by some fighters. Advocacy groups have criticized the fighters comments as sexist and homophobic.

"We've communicated to the UFC our displeasure with certain remarks made by some of its fighters, and they have promised to address this. If the incidents continue, we will act," the brewer said in a statement. A-B, which did not elaborate on potential actions, also stated that it "embraces diversity and does not condone insensitive and derogatory comments rooted in ethnicity, race, religion, sexual orientation, gender identity, disability, etc."

The rebuke comes as the UFC is gaining mainstream exposure through support from major advertisers and a long-term TV deal with Fox that includes live prime-time matches.

In a statement to Ad Age, UFC said: "With over 425 athletes on our roster, there have unfortunately been instances where a couple athletes have made insensitive or inappropriate comments. We don't condone this behavior, and in no way is it reflective of the company or its values."

A-B last year renewed its UFC deal in a multiyear pact that makes Bud Light a sponsor of pay-per-view and TV broadcasts, while giving the Bud Light logo prominent placement in the Octagon, as well as in press conferences, weigh-ins and locker rooms.

As it rises in popularity, UFC remains a polarizing sport, criticized by some for showcasing violent fighting and inflammatory rhetoric.

"We believe that the UFC contributes to a culture of violence against women, and lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people," the National Center on Domestic and Sexual Violence stated in a January letter to state assembly members in New York, urging the state to uphold its ban on professional mixed martial arts, which is legal in most states. "Children, in particular, should not be exposed to the homophobic, misogynistic and violent language that has been permitted by the UFC."

The letter referred to incidents aggregated at a website called unfitforchildren.org, which includes a collection of UFC videos and comments made by people associated with the organization. (The website is run by Las Vegas-based Culinary Workers Union Local 226. The union has unsuccessfully tried to unionize casinos owned by Station Casinos, which is partly owned by Frank and Lorenzo Fertitta, who also own UFC parent company Zuffa LLC.)

The incidents cited by National Center on Domestic and Sexual Violence include:
•An undated video linked on unfitforchildren.org, in which UFC fighter Quinton "Rampage" Jackson urges a Japanese-speaking fan to say: "I'm a fag."
•A UFC press conference in which one fighter makes light of the Jerry Sandusky-Penn State scandal by telling another fighter: "I'm going to put those hands on you worse than that dude did them other kids at Penn State," according to this ESPN.com report.
•Comments from Joe Rogan, a TV analyst for some UFC events, who reportedly used the C-word to describe Yahoo Sports mixed martial arts blogger Maggie Hendricks. Ms. Hendricks had called out fighter Mr. Jackson for the way he dealt with female interviewers at UFC events, such as telling one that she made him "horny."

Noting that some of the incidents in question have occurred over social media, UFC told Ad Age that "unlike most other sports leagues, we encourage our athletes to engage online. It is part of our company culture, and whenever you are at the forefront of a trend or initiative, it comes with its own pitfalls. We will continue to embrace social media while looking for better ways to stay in front of the issues. This includes a mandate for our athletes to attend sensitivity training and a seminar on proper use of social media."

A-B first commented on the issue when asked about it by a couple of beverage trade publications, Kane's Beverage News Daily and U.K.-based Brewers' Guardian, which reported on criticism of Bud Light's UFC advertising by alcohol watchdog group Alcohol Justice. The group, formerly called Marin Institute, frequently criticizes alcohol marketers for a host of reasons. Alcohol Justice has seized on the UFC issue to criticize this UFC-themed Bud Light Lime ad, which it says is "disgusting and typical of their cage-fighting sponsorship advertising campaign."

The ad features barely clothed UFC ring girl Arianny Celeste rolling around in limes and playfully uttering double entendres. It has never run on TV and has been distributed only through AB's age-gated Facebook and YouTube pages, according to the brewer.

In a letter to shareholders of A-B global parent Anheuser-Busch InBev, Alcohol Justice alleged that as UFC sponsor, the brewer is "delivering harmful content to millions of underage youth. At center stage is the ever-present Bud Light logo."

In its statement, AB said: "We take our role as a responsible advertiser and marketer very seriously, and we adhere to the industry's voluntary advertising and marketing code. While brand advertising influences brand choice amongst those 21 years of age and older who have already decided to consume alcohol, research shows that it does not influence increased consumption or misuse."

The industry's self-regulations call for alcohol marketers to run ads only in digital and broadcast outlets where at least 71.6% of the audience is 21 or older.

loremolis

^^^^^^^^^^^^

What does the Budweiser people expect might happen when they sponsor the company that employs over 400 of the worlds best cage fighting animals who engage in bloody warfare on a regular basis?

Discussions on barbie dolls and hairstyles?

As for Arianny Celeste stripping off and spouting double entendres, that'll only make me drink more Bud.

MrStuffins

I'm pretty sure when UFC pitched to Bud to be a partner, they were assured that these guys weren't "cage-fighting animals" but full time athletes, college graduates................ you don't need me to tell you the counters to the misconceptions about MMA and it's competitors.

At the end of the day, if it wasn't for the media latching onto things and stirring sh*t, there wouldn't be a bother in things like this!

"Oh, did you hear about X on Twitter?"

-"Yeah but it turns out it was a joke"

"Ah, ok! That makes sense"

loremolis

OK, "cage fighting animals" is a bit crude and a generalisation.

Most MMA fighters are athletes of the highest calibre (not sure if I'm including Roy Nelson in that category). However, in my opinion, it takes a very special type of person to do what they do. It's unlike any other type of sport. You punch, kick, choke or bend your opponent until they cannot continue. While it's very professional, it's also a fight and that is one of our primal urges. Budweiser can't be too surprised that they are sponsering fighting and then shocked when some of mans other traits, such as vulgarity, sexuality etc. tag along for the ride.

If rape jokes don't get you cut from the UFC then what are Budweiser expecting to happen when a fighter swears or a ring girl strips off? Nothing.

Fenian Army

Lads I've never really watched MMA/UFC or anything, was one or two fights ages ago... was wondering what would be a good event to watch to get me into it? Wanna see what the fuss is all about

Professey Chin

Fenian Army wrote: »

Lads I've never really watched MMA/UFC or anything, was one or two fights ages ago... was wondering what would be a good event to watch to get me into it? Wanna see what the fuss is all about

Of the recent ones, UFC 144. Great event

The Bored One

Fenian Army wrote: »

Lads I've never really watched MMA/UFC or anything, was one or two fights ages ago... was wondering what would be a good event to watch to get me into it? Wanna see what the fuss is all about

If you're looking for Ufc events over the last year or two these are the ones that have really stood out for me.

Ufc 125, 128, 129, 132, 136, 139, 144.

There's plenty of great older events and organisations that I could recommend too, so it depends how far back you wanna go.

Fenian Army

I dont mind going back years, I was just looking for one which is a good representation of the sport - didnt wanna jump in and pick a crap one, want to give it a fair shake if you know what I mean!

You both recommended UFC 144 might go with that one so

El Guapo!

144 was very good.
Try watch 139 too. Especially shogun v hendo.

Professey Chin

And if you wanna go old school UFC 47 all the way (and 66 was epic too)
The 2 Ortiz vs Liddell events

DrPhilG

Hughes vs Trigg II

UFC 116 was my favourite live event. Just about recovered from the Leben Akiyama battle and then screamed myself hoarse during Lesnar vs Carwin!