CNN journalist fired for telling the truth about the Jews

studiorat

Brown Bomber wrote: »

I looked into the Time Warner Directors - this is the first one I found out about

One of 12 directors. If we look at Jeff Bewkes the Chairman and CEO we see Mr. Anglo-Saxon Christian. Is he being ordered from on-high by the zionist elders?

Brown Bomber

Brown Bomber wrote: »

1. Right wing Americans obviously can be Jewish.
2. Jews dominate the neocon power structures much like they dominate the media. The father of the neocons Irving Kristol for example

Meglome,

Obviously I can't get true to you.

please take 5 minutes to watch this video. It'll be educational for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBCxYicxTow

meglome

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Meglome,

Obviously I can't get true to you.

please take 5 minutes to watch this video. It'll be educational for you.

Okay I watched it. But I still don't see how it proves your overall points about Jews. I already know that right wing Americans can be Jewish, but most are not Jewish. I already know that many Jews work in the media but that most people in the media are not Jewish. And why the hell would I want to listen to William Kristol, a Fox news presenter and ultra right wing American (who also happens to be Jewish).

I've seen nothing that shows Jews make up the majority of the Neocon power structures and even if it was true I don't assume that every Jew is involved in some sort of giant plot.

What I have seen in this thread and others though is how much importance you place on any Jew in any high position. You rarely seem to be able to explain exactly why these people's positions are actually important or threatening to any one. So far in this thread we haven't shown anyone who was actually fired for just making comments about Jews. In fact on the contrary we've been shown people who have made derogatory comments about Jews and nothing has been done whatsoever. All that has been proven to me so far is you have a bias against Jews, for whatever reason.

Brown Bomber

meglome wrote: »

Okay I watched it. But I still don't see how it proves your overall points about Jews.

Ehm...my "overall points about Jews"?

Please explain, and crucially please support this point. by quotation.

I'm going to read over the thread again to see if there is anything you may have misconstrued.

EDIT:

This was all the mentions of the words Jew(ish) that I could find.

Jews are heavily over represented in the media.

Stewart is the son of Jewish, middle-clash, white parents i.e. not oppressed.

1. There is no issue with Jews influencing the US media. However, a a potential problem is Zionists, Jewish or otherwise who have no or a lesser loyalty to the US.

Jewish people are heavily influential in the media industry in the US

Jewish people in the US are hugely influential in the US media. Incredibly over represented based on numbers. It is accepted by prominent Jews within the media we are discussing. It's not up for debate.

It's not that they are Jews but any single interest group with disproportionate unfluence.

I agree - it's a circular argument and it's xenophobic to assume guilt based on religion or race, agree 100% but that is not what I am doing IMO.

It's undeniable that Jews are the single dominant group in the US media despite being something like 3% of the population.
(...)
Many diaspora Jews and all diaspora Jewish Zionists have divided loyalties and sometimes sole loyalty to Israel.

Your not getting are you? Murdoch is leading Zionist, religion is not a factor.

2. Jews dominate the neocon power structures much like they dominate the media. The father of the neocons Irving Kristol for example was Jewish. It was mainly American Jews in politics and the compliant Jewish dominated media who took the US to war in Afghanistan and Iraq through lies.

meglome

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Ehm...my "overall points about Jews"?

Please explain, and crucially please support this point. by quotation.

I'm going to read over the thread again to see if there is anything you may have misconstrued

You keep bringing up random Jews that work in the media etc as something we should all fear. But cannot explain why other than they are Jewish. Have i missed something?

Brown Bomber

meglome wrote: »

You keep bringing up random Jews that work in the media etc as something we should all fear. But cannot explain why other than they are Jewish. Have i missed something?

Yes. Every point that I have made.

So without ANY quotations it's fair to say that your whole argument with me is based on an empty premise.

Ironic since you insist that Sanchez was fired for calling someone a bigot when you have done the same for pages...

meglome

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Yes. Every point that I have made.

So without ANY quotations it's fair to say that your whole argument with me is based on an empty premise.

Ironic since you insist that Sanchez was fired for calling someone a bigot when you have done the same for pages...

All the way through this thread you are bringing up people who are Jewish. You don't specifically say they are all Jewish but they are and you know it, and I know it. So we can dance around all we like and ignore the elephant in the room. The claims being made in the thread don't stand up to scrutiny yet I'm the one who's supposedly missing something. Hey maybe I'm stupid, I'm not ruling it out but maybe just maybe this thread is more a reflection on the predisposed beliefs of some posters than it is on my intelligence.

TMoreno

meglome wrote: »

All the way through this thread you are bringing up people who are Jewish. You don't specifically say they are all Jewish but they are and you know it, and I know it. So we can dance around all we like and ignore the elephant in the room. The claims being made in the thread don't stand up to scrutiny yet I'm the one who's supposedly missing something. Hey maybe I'm stupid, I'm not ruling it out but maybe just maybe this thread is more a reflection on the predisposed beliefs of some posters than it is on my intelligence.

If you still don't get it maybe Rabbi Ovadia Yosef can help you:

Yosef: Gentiles exist only to serve Jews
By JONAH MANDEL
10/18/2010 05:13
http://www.jpost.com/JewishWorld/Jew...aspx?id=191782

According to Rabbi, the lives of non-Jews in Israel are safeguarded by divinity, to prevent losses to Jews.
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The sole purpose of non-Jews is to serve Jews, according to Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, the head of Shas’s Council of Torah Sages and a senior Sephardi adjudicator.

“Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel,” he said in his weekly Saturday night sermon on the laws regarding the actions non-Jews are permitted to perform on Shabbat.

According to Yosef, the lives of non-Jews in Israel are safeguarded by divinity, to prevent losses to Jews.

“In Israel, death has no dominion over them... With gentiles, it will be like any person – they need to die, but [God] will give them longevity. Why? Imagine that one’s donkey would die, they’d lose their money.

This is his servant... That’s why he gets a long life, to work well for this Jew,” Yosef said.


“Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat.

That is why gentiles were created,” he added.

Yosef’s Saturday night sermons have seen many controversial statements from the 90-year-old rabbi. In August, Yosef caused a diplomatic uproar when he wished a plague upon the Palestinian people and their leaders, a curse he retracted a few weeks later, when he blessed them along with all of Israel’s other peace-seeking neighbors.


One day it’s “G-d created the planet ONLY for Jews” or the continual diatribes against Christianity, “Jesus was a criminal and liar, goyim
spending eternity in excrement and his mother, Mary, was a whore.” This one is repeated so often it is tiring.

Thank you Mr Ovadia for giving me a reason to live.

meglome

TMoreno wrote: »

If you still don't get it maybe Rabbi Ovadia Yosef can help you:

Yosef: Gentiles exist only to serve Jews
By JONAH MANDEL
10/18/2010 05:13
http://www.jpost.com/JewishWorld/Jew...aspx?id=191782

According to Rabbi, the lives of non-Jews in Israel are safeguarded by divinity, to prevent losses to Jews.
Talkbacks (81)

The sole purpose of non-Jews is to serve Jews, according to Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, the head of Shas’s Council of Torah Sages and a senior Sephardi adjudicator.

“Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel,” he said in his weekly Saturday night sermon on the laws regarding the actions non-Jews are permitted to perform on Shabbat.

According to Yosef, the lives of non-Jews in Israel are safeguarded by divinity, to prevent losses to Jews.

“In Israel, death has no dominion over them... With gentiles, it will be like any person – they need to die, but [God] will give them longevity. Why? Imagine that one’s donkey would die, they’d lose their money.

This is his servant... That’s why he gets a long life, to work well for this Jew,” Yosef said.


“Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat.

That is why gentiles were created,” he added.

Yosef’s Saturday night sermons have seen many controversial statements from the 90-year-old rabbi. In August, Yosef caused a diplomatic uproar when he wished a plague upon the Palestinian people and their leaders, a curse he retracted a few weeks later, when he blessed them along with all of Israel’s other peace-seeking neighbors.


One day it’s “G-d created the planet ONLY for Jews” or the continual diatribes against Christianity, “Jesus was a criminal and liar, goyim
spending eternity in excrement and his mother, Mary, was a whore.” This one is repeated so often it is tiring.

Thank you Mr Ovadia for giving me a reason to live.

To save you some time in the future I think most of us already know there are extremists in every religion and in every country.

What this supposed to have another point?

Overheal

Im sorry, but Rick Sanchez was fired for good reason. You can not, under any spark of imagination, get away with saying those things, especially when you plan on directly referring to your superiors at CNN. It's not even like the guy just went on a Jew-bash at Jon Stewart's expense and the CNN Execs then took offense: Sanchez actually pointed a finger at the CNN execs in his radio interview. Thats not something you really want to do when you're on the payroll over at CNN.

This conspiracy theory is a load of crock.

enfant terrible

Brown Bomber wrote: »

It was Profitius. That article was about 90% of (somewhat dated apparently) claimed facts regarding media ownership/management in the US. And it was posted with a disclaimer by Profitus. He hasn't ever, from what I've seen posted anything at all anti-semitic. Why can't we discuss the contents without smearing each other?

Or why are we even discussing it all? It's a given. Jewish people in the US are hugely influential in the US media. Incredibly over represented based on numbers. It is accepted by prominent Jews within the media we are discussing. It's not up for debate. Which is why I suspect we are talking about racism rather than these facts.

What's wrong with being Jewish?

If the majority of the media were Catholic would these same forum members be as concerned?

enfant terrible

enfant terrible wrote: »

What's wrong with being Jewish?

If the majority of the media were Catholic would these same forum members be as concerned?

You mean like it is here and probably as it is in France, Spain and the Latin countries?

My name is URL

enfant terrible wrote: »

What's wrong with being Jewish?

If the majority of the media were Catholic would these same forum members be as concerned?

Would the same people cry racism (of all things) if threads were made about groups of Catholics controlling vast monopolies? Instead of asking whether people would be interested if they were Catholic, why not post a theory which involves Catholics and find out?

meglome

My name is URL wrote: »

Would the same people cry racism (of all things) if threads were made about groups of Catholics controlling vast monopolies? Instead of asking whether people would be interested if they were Catholic, why not post a theory which involves Catholics and find out?

I think that most of us believe that people from all races, creeds or religions are capable of doing bad things. It's the very specific fixation with Jews that is the issue.

enfant terrible

My name is URL wrote: »

Would the same people cry racism (of all things) if threads were made about groups of Catholics controlling vast monopolies? Instead of asking whether people would be interested if they were Catholic, why not post a theory which involves Catholics and find out?

Of course I would why wouldn't I, I have no issues with any ethnic groups.

It seems to be mainly Jewish threads on here though doesn't it for some reason.

Brown Bomber

enfant terrible wrote: »

What's wrong with being Jewish?

Absolutely nothing.

enfant terrible wrote: »

If the majority of the media were Catholic would these same forum members be as concerned?

Absolutely yes.

Brown Bomber

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Absolutely yes.

You realise that the media here is entirely dominated by catholic and people of catholic descent right?

meglome

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Absolutely yes.

The majority of the media is catholic in France, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Ireland and you don't seem too concerned.

joebucks

King Mob wrote: »

You realise that the media here is entirely dominated by catholic and people of catholic descent right?

meglome wrote: »

The majority of the media is catholic in France, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Ireland and you don't seem too concerned.

It is not a fair comparison.

The majority of the population in these countries are Catholics so it is not surprising that their media is dominated by Catholics. Same way the media in Arabic countries is dominated by Muslims.
However Jews make up only approx 0.8% of the UK and 2% of the US populations, yet still have a large influence. This is why there is suspicions of conspiracies.

joebucks

joebucks wrote: »

It is not a fair comparison.

The majority of the population in these countries are Catholics so it is not surprising that their media is dominated by Catholics. Same way the media in Arabic countries is dominated by Muslims.
However Jews make up only approx 0.8% of the UK and 2% of the US populations, yet still have a large influence. This is why there is suspicions of conspiracies.

So what you are saying is that the reason that catholics are in power is a combination of demographics and historical factors.. Hrmm interesting....

joebucks

King Mob wrote: »

So what you are saying is that the reason that catholics are in power is a combination of demographics and historical factors.. Hrmm interesting....

Good effort, nice try, hard luck.

joebucks

joebucks wrote: »

Good effort, nice try, hard luck.

So why exactly does this not apply to the insidious Jews?

Why is it that the insidious Catholics aren't up to the same evil and non specified plots the Jews are doing?

Brown Bomber

King Mob wrote: »

You mean like it is here

The largest denomination is Roman Catholicism representing over 73% for the island (and about 87%[130] of the Republic of Ireland).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland

King Mob wrote: »

and probably as it is in France,

A poll published early 2010, presented following figures. Whilst, in 1965, 81% of the French declared themselves as Catholics, they were no more than 64% in 2009,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France#Religion

King Mob wrote: »

Spain

According to a July 2009 study by the Spanish Center of Sociological Research about 73% of Spaniards self-identify as Catholics
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain#Demographics

King Mob wrote: »

and the Latin countries?

The vast majority of Latin Americans are Christians, mostly Roman Catholics.[44] About 71% of the Latin American population consider themselves Catholic.


Hmmm....Yeah...Wonder how that came about`? Mystery...

Similar figures for Christians in the US btw.

According to a 2007 survey, 78.4% of adults identified themselves as Christian,[141] down from 86.4% in 1990.[142] Protestant denominations accounted for 51.3%, while Roman Catholicism, at 23.9%, was the largest individual denomination. The study categorizes white evangelicals, 26.3% of the population, as the country's largest religious cohort;[141] another study estimates evangelicals of all races at 30–35%.[143] The total reporting non-Christian religions in 2007 was 4.7%, up from 3.3% in 1990.[142] The leading non-Christian faiths were Judaism (1.7%), Buddhism (0.7%), Islam (0.6%), Hinduism (0.4%), and Unitarian Universalism (0.3%).[141]



And there is no point assuming on the media ownership in those regions/states. For example here in Sweden the biggest players in the media are a Jewish family the Bonniers.
http://www.bonnier.com/content/sort-media-type

Brown Bomber

meglome wrote: »

The majority of the media is catholic in France, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Ireland and you don't seem too concerned.

Well I can't read French, Italian, Spanish, or Portuguese so how the **** would I know if they are pushing an agenda or not?

Brown Bomber

Brown Bomber wrote: »

The largest denomination is Roman Catholicism representing over 73% for the island (and about 87%[130] of the Republic of Ireland).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland


A poll published early 2010, presented following figures. Whilst, in 1965, 81% of the French declared themselves as Catholics, they were no more than 64% in 2009,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France#Religion



According to a July 2009 study by the Spanish Center of Sociological Research about 73% of Spaniards self-identify as Catholics
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain#Demographics



The vast majority of Latin Americans are Christians, mostly Roman Catholics.[44] About 71% of the Latin American population consider themselves Catholic.


Hmmm....Yeah...Wonder how that came about`? Mystery...

Similar figures for Christians in the US btw.

According to a 2007 survey, 78.4% of adults identified themselves as Christian,[141] down from 86.4% in 1990.[142] Protestant denominations accounted for 51.3%, while Roman Catholicism, at 23.9%, was the largest individual denomination. The study categorizes white evangelicals, 26.3% of the population, as the country's largest religious cohort;[141] another study estimates evangelicals of all races at 30–35%.[143] The total reporting non-Christian religions in 2007 was 4.7%, up from 3.3% in 1990.[142] The leading non-Christian faiths were Judaism (1.7%), Buddhism (0.7%), Islam (0.6%), Hinduism (0.4%), and Unitarian Universalism (0.3%).[141]



And there is no point assuming on the media ownership in those regions/states. For example here in Sweden the biggest players in the media are a Jewish family the Bonniers.
http://www.bonnier.com/content/sort-media-type

Again the reason they are prevalent in the media is a combination of demographics and historical factors.

And again you've avoided the point entirely.
Nice job.

Brown Bomber

King Mob wrote: »

Again the reason they are prevalent in the media is a combination of demographics and historical factors.

And again you've avoided the point entirely.
Nice job.

Didn't know you had one tbh.

Brown Bomber

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Didn't know you had one tbh.

Actually it was in response to yours.
You claimed that you would be as worried about Catholics being in control of the media.
We provided you numerous examples of Catholics have as much or more domination of the media as you accuse the Jews of.
You don't seemed that worried about it.

It's almost as if you're singling out a specific people....

Brown Bomber

meglome wrote: »

All the way through this thread you are bringing up people who are Jewish. You don't specifically say they are all Jewish but they are and you know it, and I know it. So we can dance around all we like and ignore the elephant in the room. The claims being made in the thread don't stand up to scrutiny yet I'm the one who's supposedly missing something. Hey maybe I'm stupid, I'm not ruling it out but maybe just maybe this thread is more a reflection on the predisposed beliefs of some posters than it is on my intelligence.

Yeah. Yours.

Brough up by me:

[/B]Name [/B] Jew Zionist
Dr Hajo Meyer Y N
Shulamit Aloni Y N
Naom Chomsky Y N
Ilan Pappe Y N
Norman Finkelstein Y N
Rupert Murdoch N Y
Matthias Dopfner N Y
Jeff Bewkes N ?


Conclusion: Jew does not = Zionist. Zionist does not = Jew. Try to understand this for your own sake.