How many of us are paleo/primal?

Renn

And the cost is roughly €4:30...not sure if you consider that expensive for what you get :S

metamorphosis

Cant wait to make it - only thing is that il demolish the thing off straight away.

Renn

Tbh, it's easily done

Adelie

Oooh, I got an e-mail that the Primal Blueprint Reader-Created Cookbook is available. I'm looking forward to some new meal ideas. Can't access it though, probably too many other people downloading it!

Renn

Just flicking through Mark Sisson's book there and came across all the BMR stuff, which I used to take notice of but stopped because of how head wrecking it was to keep track of everything. Though out of complete boredom I inputted some of my details:

BMR: 1894
Total Average Daily Calorie Expenditure: 3000
Desired Protein Grams: 150 (600 calories)
Desired Carb Grams: 150 (600 calories)
Desired Fat Grams: 200 (1800 calories)

You guys around the 60/20/20 mark too?

El_Dangeroso

Last time I plugged everything into Fitday I was 25:18:56 Carbs : Protein : Fat on about 1,900 cals.

Renn

It's weird, I just really don't have a desire for carby stuff any more...two months into this way of eating but yeah, finding myself more energetic, eating new foods, incorporating way more vegetables into my diet, and I get to eat the tastiest food I've ever had.

Primal sucks.

Renn

Tomorrow's lunch sees me bringing in tupperware full of banana walnut bread, pork chop with apple filling, a million brussel sprouts, and a load of chicken wings covered in Frank's hot sauce. I like.

El_Dangeroso

I bought some tapioca flour (a flour made from the manioc or cassava root vegetable) yesterday. Anyone got any ideas on what to do with it? I do NOT have fond memories of tapioca pudding as a kid, but maybe my tastes have changed since then.

Was thinking of making some Brazilian cheese puffs:

http://perfecthealthdiet.com/?p=1151

Looks like they'd be perfect for dipping into homemade guacamole!

El_Dangeroso

Ohhh, chebe bread!!

http://glutenfree.wordpress.com/2010/01/10/gf-pao-de-quejo-aka-chebe-bread/

Cushtie

Just wondering would you guys consider the recipes in the links below as Paleo?

I'm looking into trying to start following this type of plan. the only thing is I love spuds and bread and these are two things that seem to be a big no no in the Paleo plan.


http://www.elanaspantry.com/simple-bread/

http://www.elanaspantry.com/dark-rye-bread/

SteelyDanJalapeno

Cushtie wrote: »

Just wondering would you guys consider the recipes in the links below as Paleo?

I'm looking into trying to start following this type of plan. the only thing is I love spuds and bread and these are two things that seem to be a big no no in the Paleo plan.


http://www.elanaspantry.com/simple-bread/

http://www.elanaspantry.com/dark-rye-bread/

If you just gave up the bread and the spuds for a week or two, im sure you would realize there nothing special!

If you actually think about there very bland with very little taste, there more of a platform for other foods, your sandwich filling or the meat with your dinner etc etc,

there not worth it.

Adelie

Cushtie wrote: »

I'm looking into trying to start following this type of plan. the only thing is I love spuds and bread and these are two things that seem to be a big no no in the Paleo plan.

Spuds aren't exactly a big no no, many people who follow Paleo don't eat them but many do. They are certainly not considered as bad as bread which yeah is a big no no. If I were you I'd just focus on cutting out the bread first, the positive health effect of cutting out that will probably be many times greater than the effect of cutting out spuds.

fatmammycat

I actually think spuds are nearly as bad as bread- and I say that as someone who LOVES buttery mashed potoato and roasties- because for some reason we Irish eat so much of them and yet they're just delicious ball of starch.
I've substituted potato with sweet potoato which I eat mashed, buttered, sprinkled with paprika and pepper. NOM. ( I will still have the odd real spud here and there, but no where near like before).

El_Dangeroso

Spuds can be problematic if you're trying to lose weight.

I personally eat white potatoes a few times a week, otherwise it's tough to get enough calories I find.

I'd definitely make cutting out the wheat a priority.

Sapsorrow

fatmammycat wrote: »

I've substituted potato with sweet potoato which I eat mashed, buttered, sprinkled with paprika and pepper. NOM. ( I will still have the odd real spud here and there, but no where near like before).

I'm fairly sure sweet potatoes would be even worse!

Cushtie

Thanks for the replies guys, I've given up on the spuds and bread since the weekend. ya...... it's hard to get the head around not having the sambo for lunch and few spuds with the dinner.

still I think I'm beginning to feel a bit better, not as bloated or something. have cut down on dairy aswell, just using a drop of milk in the tea.

Breakfast has always been a problem for me. I'm generally very bad at having breakfast and in the last year or so have been having porridge on and off still getting used to it but to do the Paleo thing have given up that too, so it's hard boiled eggs so far.

will keep ye posted with my progress.

Mirrorb4ll

Sapsorrow wrote: »

I'm fairly sure sweet potatoes would be even worse!

I'm very sure you're wrong. Lower glycemic load of sweet potato vs regular potato for a start. That's before you get into their superior nutritional profile too.

Sapsorrow

Mirrorb4ll wrote: »

I'm very sure you're wrong. Lower glycemic load of sweet potato vs regular potato for a start. That's before you get into their superior nutritional profile too.

I'm talking purely fat loss wise, I haven't looked into it but I would imagine sweet potatoes are even higher carb that spuds. Didn't consider the GL values though tbh.

Mirrorb4ll

Sapsorrow wrote: »

I'm talking purely fat loss wise, I haven't looked into it but I would imagine sweet potatoes are even higher carb that spuds. Didn't consider the GL values though tbh.

Pure carb content they're very simlar. I think sweet potato actually has about 2 or 3 grams less carbs per similar weight of regular potato, but its neglible either way. Pure fat loss wise i guess you could say they're similar but in a way they're not. Higher insulin response is higher "fat storing" in general.

rocky

where's the anti-thank button

Mirrorb4ll

rocky wrote: »

where's the anti-thank button

Is that supposed to be directed at me?

rocky

yep

Mirrorb4ll

Why? The guy posted wrong info. I simply corrected him. If you think i'm wrong in any way then say why. Don't try and be a little smart ass.

Pffft, whatever... right back at ya with the anti-thanks button. You should stay out of the thread if you have nothing useful to add to it.

rocky

I won't clog up this thread with my usual derails, suffice to say that the GI scale is useless for pretty much anything. If you start a thread on it I'll contribute. And insulin the fat storage hormone? We had this talk last week in a different thread, you may want to look it up and stop spreading misinformation

Hey, where is the Porridge is fattening !!! thread? Just searched for my posts on insulin in the 'other' thread, cannot find them? They could have been split into a new thread if that discussion was much off topic, anyway

I'll think twice before contributing in here

Sapsorrow

I'm confused now.. anyway play nice.. and I'm not a bloke! :pac:

Ya I dunno I can't say I've ever compared the two tbh (and I don't cout carbs myself so I don't know any foods carb cont's off hand) but purely on intuition I would have thought that sweet potatoes were starchier and sweeter that's all. Trust me, I know more than I care to about insulin and fat storage after 4 years of studying metabolism in college I wonder why sweet potatoes have a lower GL value, I can't imagine them having much more fibre.. and they are so sweet!?

Mirrorb4ll

Sapsorrow wrote: »

.. and I'm not a bloke! :pac:

sorry, my bad

Sapsorrow wrote: »

Ya I dunno I can't say I've ever compared the two tbh (and I don't cout carbs myself so I don't know any foods carb cont's off hand) but purely on intuition I would have thought that sweet potatoes were starchier and sweeter that's all. Trust me, I know more than I care to about insulin and fat storage after 4 years of studying metabolism in college I wonder why sweet potatoes have a lower GL value, I can't imagine them having much more fibre.. and they are so sweet!?

with a name like SWEET potato one would assume they are sweeter and higher carb but they're not, and they generally a much better choice, especially post workout. That's when i eat them anyway.

I don't think they're strictly paleo, because they're a tuber and probably wouldn't have been eaten much in paleolithic times but they're in that gray area where its generally accepted that they're a fine addition to have in a paleo diet, especially post-workout.

I think being 100% paleo is very difficult. I'm about 95% but that 5% that i'm not isn't crappy food either. Its comprised of still pretty good gray area foods - coffee, sweet potato, dark chocolate, wine, very occasionally some organic dairy, etc. You gotta live a little.

fatmammycat

Mirrorb4ll wrote: »

sorry, my bad


with a name like SWEET potato one would assume they are sweeter and higher carb but they're not, and they generally a much better choice, especially post workout. That's when i eat them anyway.

I don't think they're strictly paleo, because they're a tuber and probably wouldn't have been eaten much in paleolithic times but they're in that gray area where its generally accepted that they're a fine addition to have in a paleo diet, especially post-workout.

I think being 100% paleo is very difficult. I'm about 95% but that 5% that i'm not isn't crappy food either. Its comprised of still pretty good gray area foods - coffee, sweet potato, dark chocolate, wine, very occasionally some organic dairy, etc. You gotta live a little.

I would like to second pretty much everything you said here.
I don't eat meat, so instead I eat a lot of fish and seafood, I also eat cheese and drink milk to help with my protein intake, I would lean towards primal rather than paleo, but the difference in cutting out bread and pasta and so on from my diet has been nothing short of amazing. I sleep better, I train better, I concentrate better, it's like a new lease of life in some ways, also my weight is pretty stable which pleases me. I still have a burrito every now and then, and as I said I eat sweet potato, also now and then, but over all I stick to a pretty clean diet.
I only bloomin' wish I had discovered how to eat like this YEARS ago.

El_Dangeroso

Potato Potaato :pac:

Sweet potatoes are advocated by Wolf, Sisson et al as a nutrient dense carb source. I wouldn't worry too much about their inclusion. As I understand it the issue with potatoes is that a) they are starchy as hell and b) they are a nightshade so can cause GI issues with some. Besides butter sweet potatoes are so full of win.

I think generally potatoes are a waste of carbs unless they're really nice french fries.