How many of us are paleo/primal?

hug0

I admire you dedication to this strict diet but I suppose you dont have a choice if you are feeling unwell after eating certain food. I llike the idea of eating less carbs, thing is Im not a big fan of meat, cheese or creamy food. So probably not a good idea for me!

Do you think if I even try eating more protein, say eggs for breakfast, no bread and for dinner no carbs -or are you allowed some wheat grains/sweet pot.? The problem for me is the craving or association with sitting down to a coffee and having a scone or something bready with it.

If I could tell myself that its just a craving it might help, how did you guys feel after coming off bread? Did you crave it? Or have withdrawal symptoms? Would you guys drink much? Think that lowers the will power also! Not that I drink a lot maybe once a week or so.

Any tips to give bread up would be great!

Adelie

I really don't see it as a strict diet at all. It just means eating the foods that make me feel great, eliminate any stomach problems, give me loads of energy, also have very good effects on my skin and body and immune system. Once I realised how good I felt eating this way then really there was very little temptation to go back to old habits.

You can eat as much sweet potato as you want, you can also eat plain old spuds if they don't cause you any problems. Paleo/primal does not necessarily mean low-carb. Rice isn't too bad to have occasionally.

You can have dark chocolate with your coffee. The bread - you just need to change your habits, once that's done you're grand. At the start that means planning ahead and having a routine.

As for the drink yeah I'd have say half a bottle of red wine twice a week or so but I try to start with dinner so I don't need to eat again later.

metamorphosis

also make you can make bread paleo style - nicer denser bread too - using oats for examplw, or almond flour. Just need to be inventive. Some people have an attachment to bread and i know it can be hard to break the idea of needing to have bread at every meal but its easy do. Just need to be creative about it. Thick icebreg lettuce leaves make a great sub for wraps or burger buns.

--Kaiser--

Adelie wrote: »

I really don't see it as a strict diet at all.

Me neither, I think it's fairly easy to keep to. I don't miss eating bread, I always saw it as filler food anyway.

ULstudent wrote: »

also make you can make bread paleo style - nicer denser bread too - using oats for examplw, or almond flour. Just need to be inventive. Some people have an attachment to bread and i know it can be hard to break the idea of needing to have bread at every meal but its easy do. Just need to be creative about it. Thick icebreg lettuce leaves make a great sub for wraps or burger buns.

Oats aren't really paleo, too much gluten, phytates and trypsin inhibitors!

El_Dangeroso

--Kaiser-- wrote: »

Oats aren't really paleo, too much gluten, phytates and trypsin inhibitors!

You can always ferment them to get rid of that stuff, but yeah, still not paleo, but it's not dogma, you can tweak to your hearts content. You can be as paleo as suits you and your body. The main badies (that do imperceptible damage in your body whether you react to them or not) are wheat, too much omega 6 and too much sugar. If you're eliminating those and eating a varied, unprocessed diet with plenty of vitamins then you're getting 80% of the benefit in my eyes.

I had rice yesterday, pains in stomach so not worth it. Damn, I thought I could handle rice but apparently not. Still think it's not too bad for someone who deals with it fine, but I don't.

I can eat potato 'til the cows come home though and always feel fine.

Renn

I had these this morning - 80% pork. Good/bad? Is there a better alternative?

And by too much omega 6 what do you mean? Almonds etc? DO I just need to counteract this with eating omega 3 eggs and the like?

Renn

dark chocolate melted into yoghurt and cream (still on my dairy binge)

I want this for breakfast tomorrow. How much choc you use? And which yogurt and cream and how much?

I'm going to make a hot chocolate now using Green and Blacks cocoa with Tesco full cream. Wrong on so many levels I'd say!

Sapsorrow

I was indulging myself so I used about 250g greek yoghurt, 50g 85% chocolate, some chocoalte flavoured stevia drops and a good load of cream.

Renn

Cool. I've some natural yogurt here and I might just try that. The tesco full cream didn't work so well for the hot chocolate

Renn

Really want to make this for breakfast

Where do you guys get heavy cream over here? Full cream has around 20% fat but heavy cream tends to be closer to 35%.

brianthebard

heavy cream is double cream isn't it?

Renn

Really? That's 48%...but I presume it'd be okay to use for the above?

brianthebard

well I don't see why you couldn't use single or double cream for that recipe tbh. Double cream would be more low carb though.

Renn

Think I'll be a pig tomorrow and have that for breakfast.

Renn

Anyone got any more interesting recipe ideas?

May have to start cutting out having double cream every evening

Sapsorrow

I don't know just how primal I'm going to manage to be from now on, I just started work in a cheese and pasta stall in the English Market down here and OMFG I never ate so much cheese in my life. Showed up to work this morning to find a coffee machine and fresh croissants and loaves of bread in the oven for the staff breakfast, it was really really hard to say no with the smell all around me. I think dairy might have to be a more regular part of my diet now

FunkZ

Make your own bread using the Flax recipe on here!

As far as I can remember it's egg, flaxseed, butter, herbs and... two teaspoons of baking powder.

And I gotta feeling it would be the same without the baking powder! I might try it =]

El_Dangeroso

Sapsorrow wrote: »

I don't know just how primal I'm going to manage to be from now on, I just started work in a cheese and pasta stall in the English Market down here and OMFG I never ate so much cheese in my life. Showed up to work this morning to find a coffee machine and fresh croissants and loaves of bread in the oven for the staff breakfast, it was really really hard to say no with the smell all around me. I think dairy might have to be a more regular part of my diet now

I always got on grand with dairy, cut it out for 6 weeks and it made zero difference besides making my life annoyingly awkward. I do always buy the best cheese I can afford. I'll need some damn good evidence to convince me that casein is a problem when you don't have leaky gut.

The smell of bread I can't help you with, it hits up every junkie signal in the brain..

Sapsorrow

Ya I'm gonna see how my skin and tummy reacts, was a bit tummy achey for the first time in ages today but I also had 1/2 a strong cup of tea so either could have set me off really. I hope I don't get a break out, my skin's been perfect since coming off the dairy six months back. I'll have to taste all the cheeses repeatedly until I learn their characteristics either way though so it'll be interesting to see. I can see the perks to eating diary but I'm still a bit wary of it myself. Man the smell of fresh bread is one thing, but fresh croissants... luckily their mega chocolate cake is grain-free!

Renn

Can't beat cake tbh.

Am I the only one here that's following (well, trying to anyway) this way of eating just out of curiousity more than anything? I've no IBS or anything like that but just actually feel more energetic when eating this way. And another reason I'm following it is because of the way it 'makes' me eat a lot more veg and other good stuff.

Btw, would welcome a nice and simple sweet potato pancake recipe if anyone has got one. Just sounds like something I'd devour in a second if I had the chance.

Oh and Sapsorrow, made those pumpkin cookies over the weekend, they didn't last long at all They were a litttle bit awkward after baking, still a good bit soft and tended to crumble a little onto the rack, but I still ate them all. Had no sweetener or cinnamon but they were still awesome. Any reason why 70% was used instead of 85%? Also, how did you prepare your pumpkin? I just washed the guy all on the outside and threw it into the oven as it was and did that for about an hour. Probably did it the wrong way, I dunno!

Adelie

Renn wrote: »

Am I the only one here that's following (well, trying to anyway) this way of eating just out of curiousity more than anything? I've no IBS or anything like that but just actually feel more energetic when eating this way. And another reason I'm following it is because of the way it 'makes' me eat a lot more veg and other good stuff.

I also didn't start because of health problems, but mainly because the logic behind it really appealed to me, of course we should function better if we follow the diet our ancestors did, and of course eating processed foods that our ancestors didn't have access to is going to mess up our bodies (not just ready-meals but bread and veg oils).

However once I was following it for a while, it made me notice the bad effects that wheat and dairy have on me. Although I'm hoping I'll be able to tolerate dairy again if I cut them both out for a while.

Anyway I'm very happy with it and I'm going to stick with it. Like you the main benefit is that I have more energy. I also don't get dry skin anymore and my tan from the summer has barely faded (I assume from the Vitamin D I take). Plus I haven't gotten so much as a cold since I started several months ago but winter will be the real test of that!

Renn

I take a Vit D supplement but can't say I'm noticing much of a change.

What are your guys evening meals like? I typically have meat+veg for dinner and then have fallen into the trap of just having a hot chocolate and some 85% as a snack afterwards.

metamorphosis

Iv been taking between 4400 - 6600 IU of Vit D3 since March and it took about 2 months before i noticed any change. My skin is now more sallow. Been pale used to be 1 of my achilles heel but im anything but now

Just my experience of D3. Really must get my levles checked though now to see if im taking too much or enough

Adelie

I'm only taking 1000 IU but I spent a fair bit of time abroad this summer/autumn and got plenty of sun. I'll increase now though with our lovely Irish winter coming.

Kimia

I take loads of supplements and I wonder if it's the wrong thing to do.. I take psyllium husks, vit B complex, vit D + calcium, and a multivitamin. Sometimes I'll also take a garlic tablet. My thinking is I may as well because what harm!

Is that bad?

Renn

Must say that I'm pretty tempted to try this when I get home

For some reason I always thought it was a bad idea to cook almond flour. Same goes for almond/brazil nut butter - I make pancakes with these, as I've seen a number of recipes including them. But someone here will probably tell me it's bad

Renn

Tried it, pretty awesome even if I did screw it up a little. Gonna check the calorie total later on but there's feck all of it left and I'm the only one who ate the thing

I'm not good at cooking/baking at all but this was incredibly simple.

brianthebard

It sounds awesome, I must get some bananas.

Mr Marri

Renn wrote: »

Must say that I'm pretty tempted to try this when I get home

For some reason I always thought it was a bad idea to cook almond flour. Same goes for almond/brazil nut butter - I make pancakes with these, as I've seen a number of recipes including them. But someone here will probably tell me it's bad

Hay Renn, thanks for posting this reciepe. Made this this morning and it's, Yum! Will definitely make it again, maybe with a spoon or two of cinimmon (with bonus insulin blunting effect* .)

I'd be suprised it there is less than 2000Kcal per cake, but it's all good stuff so no worries.


*not sure if this is only effective for diabetics, and you probably need to have some everday....but cinimmon is yum so any excuse will do.]

Renn

Ha, no worries. There's some fantastic stuff on that site.

I didn't really break up the walnuts that much, should have probably grinded them down a little more but not to worry. Didn't taste too much of the banana either actually. Really tasty though and I'll be making it again soon.

Just checked the calorie breakdown there, here's a rough estimate as to what it totals:

2 Eggs - 120
1 tsp baking soda
1/2 Cup Melted Butter - 800
2 Cups of Almond Flour - 1100
Pinch of Sea Salt
2 ripe/over ripe bananas - 200
3/4 cup crushed walnuts - 500


Totalling 2720!