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Obama legitimate President?

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    #62
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,122 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    demonspawn wrote: »
    Jesus, no need to lose the head. :D

    Do you have any evidence to prove that he is? Other than a bogus birth cert created a few years ago?

    You're the one making the claim.....anything to substantiate it? Or are just going to continue to try and deflect it back onto others?


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    #63
    Yitzhak Rabin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭Yitzhak Rabin


    demonspawn wrote: »
    Do you have any evidence to prove that he is? Other than a bogus birth cert created a few years ago?

    I had no reason to doubt it in the first place. Just like I didn't doubt any of the previous presidents.

    The birthcert, combined with the newspaper clipping only further strengthened my belief that he is a US citizen.

    Fourth time now.....Do you have any evidence to doubt he is a US citizen???

    Stories of step sisters aside, I think I already know why his citizenship was ever brought into doubt.


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    #64
    demonspawn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭demonspawn


    Jeboa Safari wrote: »
    The links on the site were broke, but I could find them through google, so not shut down.
    Also this and places like abovetopsecret are still up?

    And what would happen if they shut down these sites? You think that would help their case or would people see it as a clear admission of guilt?

    Truth be told, they let some sites carry on because the CTs on them are pretty ridiculous. I assume they use these sites to leak false CTs, like Alex Jones when he jumped on the "Climategate" scandal, which proved to be completely false. That's why I'll never listen to another word that man utters. He's a complete imbecile doing more harm than good.

    Oh, and can you please post the working links to those stories? I'm a lazy Googler.


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    #65
    Jeboa Safari
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭Jeboa Safari


    demonspawn wrote: »
    And what would happen if they shut down these sites? You think that would help their case or would people see it as a clear admission of guilt?

    Truth be told, they let some sites carry on because the CTs on them are pretty ridiculous. I assume they use these sites to leak false CTs, like Alex Jones when he jumped on the "Climategate" scandal, which proved to be completely false. That's why I'll never listen to another word that man utters. He's a complete imbecile doing more harm than good.

    Oh, and can you please post the working links to those stories? I'm a lazy Googler.

    If they shut them down, or better yet didn't let them spring up in the first place, then no discussion would take place, and everybody would be none the wiser. Then they could make whoever tried to start the conspiracy about them disappear...speaking of which, should we be worried for your safety :eek:

    If you hover over the link in the article it will tell you the name, type that into google, I already closed them.


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    #66
    demonspawn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭demonspawn


    Jeboa Safari wrote: »
    If they shut them down, or better yet didn't let them spring up in the first place, then no discussion would take place, and everybody would be none the wiser. Then they could make whoever tried to start the conspiracy about them disappear...speaking of which, should we be worried for your safety :eek:

    If you hover over the link in the article it will tell you the name, type that into google, I already closed them.

    Eh....CTs existed long before the interwebs. People used to actually go outside and meet other people to discuss things! Can you believe it? :eek:

    Oh, and I imagine a few CTers have been "disappeared"...Barry Jennings being one of them.


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    #67
    gizmo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    demonspawn wrote: »
    Truth be told, they let some sites carry on because the CTs on them are pretty ridiculous. I assume they use these sites to leak false CTs, like Alex Jones when he jumped on the "Climategate" scandal, which proved to be completely false. That's why I'll never listen to another word that man utters. He's a complete imbecile doing more harm than good.
    If you think Alex Jones is an imbecile, you should check out the head of the Birther movement, Orly Taitz. :p


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    #68
    Di0genes
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭Di0genes


    demonspawn wrote: »

    Oh, and I imagine a few CTers have been "disappeared"...Barry Jennings being one of them.

    Barry Jennings wasn't a CTer he publicly stated he thought the towers were brought down by the plane impacts. He didn't believe explosions were placed in the towers.


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    #69
    demonspawn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭demonspawn


    gizmo wrote: »
    If you think Alex Jones is an imbecile, you should check out the head of the Birther movement, Orly Taitz. :p

    I have no interest in the arguments put forward by tea party nutcases. I base my opinions on years of following certain CTs, filtering the bulls**t from the possible truths, then come to a conclusion based on the information I've found. Unfortunately, I can't provide the years of information I've discovered on these forums, it's just not possible due to time constraints.


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    #70
    Jeboa Safari
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭Jeboa Safari


    demonspawn wrote: »
    Eh....CTs existed long before the interwebs. People used to actually go outside and meet other people to discuss things! Can you believe it? :eek:

    Oh, and I imagine a few CTers have been "disappeared"...Barry Jennings being one of them.

    Indeed, but why facilitate them by letting them use the internet to spread word of this terrible nwo that exists?


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    #71
    gizmo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    demonspawn wrote: »
    I have no interest in the arguments put forward by tea party nutcases. I base my opinions on years of following certain CTs, filtering the bulls**t from the possible truths, then come to a conclusion based on the information I've found. Unfortunately, I can't provide the years of information I've discovered on these forums, it's just not possible due to time constraints.
    Well now we're getting somewhere. Do you not think it's odd that all of the people spear heading the birther campaign are those "tea party nutcases" and that most rational Republicans have admitted that he is indeed a legitimate president?

    Hell in some cases even some Tea Party people admit it...
    In one case, Ken Buck, who is running for Senate from Colorado attempted to run as a Tea Party candidate, but he was recorded telling a campaign staffer to "tell those dumbasses at the Tea Party to stop asking questions about birth certificates while I'm on the camera".
    Source.


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    #72
    demonspawn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭demonspawn


    Jeboa Safari wrote: »
    Indeed, but why facilitate them by letting them use the internet to spread word of this terrible nwo that exists?

    It's the old bogey man thing. Invent an enemy that doesn't exist so you can do your dirty deeds while people are looking the other way. "NWO" is bulls**t, try WTO, G20, World Bank, IMF, Builderberg Group, Blackwater, the ritual with the giant owl (I forget the name), etc. Those bogey men are most definitely real.


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    #73
    phantom_lord
    Registered Users Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    demonspawn you're just being ridiculous here.


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    #74
    phantom_lord
    Registered Users Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    demonspawn wrote: »

    2. Do you honestly think that the people in control don't have the next 100 years planned out to the letter? They have the power for a reason, because they work together to do whatever they like. This is their planet, we're just the sheep and the cattle.

    well they're clearly a bit sloppy if they couldn't magic up a birth cert for the man they chose to be us president :rolleyes:

    sure aren't birth certs traded on the nyse, why didn't they just buy one for him off that?


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    #75
    demonspawn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭demonspawn


    gizmo wrote: »
    Well now we're getting somewhere. Do you not think it's odd that all of the people spear heading the birther campaign are those "tea party nutcases" and that most rational Republicans have admitted that he is indeed a legitimate president?

    Hell in some cases even some Tea Party people admit it...
    Source.

    I'm not saying everything they say is nonsense, just that most of them really have no idea what their talking about. They discovered this birth cert scandal, the government heads are unable to provide a satisfactory explanation, hence the popular CT that many non-tea party CTers also agree with.

    I honestly don't care whether or not Obama is a natural citizen of the U.S., I don't think it really matters at the end of the day. But this doubt caused by his lack of an original birth cert raises questions like, "what else don't we know about this guy? or "what else is he trying to hide?"

    Then it starts to get a bit messy.


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    #76
    GerardKeating
    Registered Users Posts: 7,549 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    yekahs wrote: »
    So the CT has now expanded to include the Hawaiian Health board colluding with Obama years in advance of him becoming president to destroy all birthcerts so that they wouldn't have to produce his, in the event that he one day became president?

    :rolleyes:

    Again, have you any evidence to back up your theory that he is not a US citizen?

    And his mother (knowing that he would eventually become president) placed a fake add in the newpapers to back his claim ?


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    #77
    demonspawn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭demonspawn


    GerardKeating wrote: »
    And his mother (knowing that he would eventually become president) placed a fake add in the newpapers to back his claim ?

    Or it's completely fabricated just like his birth cert. :rolleyes:


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    #78
    gizmo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    demonspawn wrote: »
    Or it's completely fabricated just like his birth cert. :rolleyes:
    These are the types of statements people ask you to back up with proof. :)


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    #79
    Joshua Jones
    Closed Accounts Posts: 246 ✭✭Joshua Jones


    The fact is Obama has lied and gone back on campaign pledges since taking office therefore he is an illegitimate President, birth cert or not.


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    #80
    RoboClam
    Registered Users Posts: 582 ✭✭✭RoboClam


    Joshua Jones wrote: »
    The fact is Obama has lied and gone back on campaign pledges since taking office therefore he is an illegitimate President, birth cert or not.

    Well then I guess that every American president is illegitimate :pac:


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    #81
    oceanclub
    Registered Users Posts: 3,411 ✭✭✭oceanclub


    RoboClam wrote: »
    Well then I guess that every American president is illegitimate :pac:

    Or indeed every politician ever.

    P.


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    #82
    gizmo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    Joshua Jones wrote: »
    The fact is Obama has lied and gone back on campaign pledges since taking office therefore he is an illegitimate President, birth cert or not.
    At least he's a good time keeper...
    • On February 27, 2009, Obama declared that combat operations would end in Iraq within 18 months.
    • Obama said, "Let me say this as plainly as I can: By August 31, 2010, our combat mission in Iraq will end."
    • On August 19, 2010 the last US combat brigade exited Iraq.
    • On August 31, 2010, Obama announced that the U.S. combat mission in Iraq was over.


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    #83
    sligopark
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭sligopark


    timely yet Kenyan


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    #84
    joebucks
    Closed Accounts Posts: 728 ✭✭✭joebucks


    sligopark wrote: »
    timely yet Kenyan

    Who Soetoro?


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    #85
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,122 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    sligopark wrote: »
    timely yet Kenyan

    Was he born in Kenya?


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    #86
    fontanalis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭fontanalis


    If only there was a checking process to confirm ones citizenship when applying for President!


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    #87
    Ludo
    Registered Users Posts: 5,015 ✭✭✭Ludo


    And here is the birth certificate...

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf

    Let me be the first to say ...FAKE!!!!!

    :D


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    #88
    My name is URL
    Registered Users Posts: 25,067 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Now that we've seen his birth certificate, I want some solid proof that he is, in fact, black.


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    #89
    fontanalis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭fontanalis


    My name is URL wrote: »
    Now that we've seen his birth certificate, I want some solid proof that he is, in fact, black.

    I want proof that Hawaii is part of the US.
    Rest assured no amount of proof will quash my insanity.


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    #90
    Ludo
    Registered Users Posts: 5,015 ✭✭✭Ludo


    And here are the first theories I have come across so far:

    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/barack-obama/birth-obama-certer-movement-098513

    Linked to from Drudge now...typical


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    #91
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    lol @ certer movement


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