why planet - x?

justo

Planet - x seems to be the road/cx bike of choice for the boards community.

Why so?

Stark

Great value from what I can tell.

Lumen

They used to be cheap.

AstraMonti

It's carbon, it's light, it has no issues and they were good value. I 've seen people saying that it's flexy under heavy wattage, but I 've yet to see any proper analysis on the subject, so I don't take it in account.

ednwireland

i have a focus

xz

well those that have seen me, know I'm of the larger body type, I have a PX and have absolutely no problems with it whatsoever, It's light, very responsive, and has great handling, actually feels very safe on fast descents

fran oconnor

good well speced bike,but they are ugly imo.

mfdc

Lumen wrote: »

They used to be cheap.

That's it in a nutshell, for a while you couldn't get similar kit at a price anywhere near what they were asking. I got a titanium w/ Ultegra for £1650, their only titanium on sale now is £2600. They had their carbon bike on sale for £800 for a while too, it's now £1000. Same with the time trial bike, they had it for a grand and now it's £1400.

Since the prices rose, their days as the recommendation of choice are done I think

buzzingnoise

They're bulletproof.
Excellent value.
And most importantly aesthetically pleasing!

2 Wheels Good

Variety is the spice of life though?

petethedrummer

pat_hurley@yaho wrote: »

Variety is the spice of life though?

You can get them in white and blue.

Beasty

ednwireland wrote: »

i have a focus

But you're from the middle of nowhere, where no-one can see you on it.

Oh hang on, I've got a Focus also...

CramCycle

ednwireland wrote: »

i have a focus

I have a BH, much like planet X they also used to be good :eek:

fran oconnor

buzzingnoise wrote: »

They're bulletproof.
Excellent value.
And most importantly aesthetically pleasing!

i agree with you're first point,but i think they are an ugly bike..

tunney

justo wrote: »

Planet - x seems to be the road/cx bike of choice for the boards community.

Why so?

Valueing frame materials and rear mechs over everything else.

AstraMonti

tunney wrote: »

Valueing frame materials and rear mechs over everything else.

If we could afford it we would all buy a Cervelo, believe me.

I haven't seen any proper reasoning of why you think PlanetX is not a good frame for the money though.

bcmf

Ahh....... the old p-x debate. never fails to raise emotions.

IM0

Kinesis FTW!

niceonetom

Mine is black. :cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:

buzzingnoise

fran oconnor wrote: »

i agree with you're first point,but i think they are an ugly bike..

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder!

fran oconnor

buzzingnoise wrote: »

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder!

or beerholder:p

ednwireland

Beasty wrote: »

But you're from the middle of nowhere, where no-one can see you on it.

Oh hang on, I've got a Focus also...

just have to point out, i'm no from here just live here

buzzingnoise wrote: »

They're bulletproof.

could be useful round here hmmmmmm

Dubba

Can you get another bike at this price point weighing in at 7.64kgs with pedals?

CramCycle

Dubba wrote: »

Can you get another bike at this price point weighing in at 7.64kgs with pedals?

225sterling approx + pedals should be well lighter and cheaper

Dubba

CramCycle wrote: »

225sterling approx + pedals should be well lighter and cheaper

I like, where can I find? :pac:

monkeypants

AstraMonti wrote: »

Cervelo

Ooh, they're nice. I'd need to jump a shop counter to get that kind of money though.

TinyExplosions

petethedrummer wrote: »

You can get them in white and blue.

And Pink!

petethedrummer

TinyExplosions wrote: »

And Pink!

Dunno how I forgot that.

AstraMonti

bcmf wrote: »

Ahh....... the old p-x debate. never fails to raise emotions.

I don't think it raises emotions, I mean I won't get offended if someone doesn't like my bike/my car/my house/my hair etc etc.. but it's another thing to make statements without sufficient data to support them, in this case probably scientific; and while you are at it take in account how much it costs.

tunney

Dubba wrote: »

Can you get another bike at this price point weighing in at 7.64kgs with pedals?

Because the weight is the more important thing?
What about handling and power transfer?

tunney

AstraMonti wrote: »

I don't think it raises emotions, I mean I won't get offended if someone doesn't like my bike/my car/my house/my hair etc etc.. but it's another thing to make statements without sufficient data to support them, in this case probably scientific; and while you are at it take in account how much it costs.

Person A says they ride well, descend well, doesn't flex.
Person B says the ride like a pig, descent like a bus and flexes like a flexy thing.

Surely either both or neither should provide this "scientific" data to support their claims?

AstraMonti

It's a fair point, I 'll try to put in a different way.

There are few reviews out there saying they are grand for the price, there are few hundred happy owners, there are people racing and winning on this frame and then there are a couple saying they are rubbish. I am not affected by the syndrome of godliking what I own and I tend to give credit when things deserve it and bury them when they don't. At this case I know what I bought, what I paid for so I judge accordingly.

I obviously don't have any data apart from my user experience and the above facts. You are claiming though it's a flexy frame. How did you find out that the frame is flexing? It's not an easy task to figure. You might have had bad crankset, crappy wheels, flexy bars and stem etc etc.. How did you came to this conclusion? I am not trying to being smart or ironic here, I am genuinely curious.

ROK ON

A certain member here who rides a PX has told me that he finds the frame a bit flexy.
Just sayin. Not that it mattets to me.

I hate consensus. That's all.

RobFowl

Personally I quite like the look of them especially in White.

For the money they are exceptional value.

There are stiffer and less flexy frames but there are also vastly more expensive frames...

AstraMonti

Consensus happens when you have a generally good or bad product.

For example, Toyota makes great cars that last for years and years. That's the general consensus, and it has built this reputation through the years and even the recent events with the pedal can not change it.

You don't have to agree on the aesthetics part, that's totally personal but you have to agree that they were a great value for the money. There are so many ways to differ; buying something that a lot of people have doesn't make you blind mass.

And yes I am arguing on such grounds for the sake of being argumentative.

Lumen

This is old but interesting.

Planet X founder Dave Loughran...A very keen triathlete

I'm out. Who wants to buy a couple of Planet-Xs?

Lumen

Nanolight High Modulus SRAM Red Limited Edition £1,499.00. Complete bike weight 6.90 kg.

That's nuts. I paid almost that much for the groupset alone last year.

edit: because I'm an idiot.

Creamy Goodness

i was lucky i bought mine just before the prices went up.

it's my first bike, and i love it. that what you want from that i probably don't know better.

have to admit though the newer decals are hideous compared the old thin line font.

i'd say i've done about 400k on mine in the space of 3 months (included a period when i was injured) and every metre of that has been an absolute joy, i look forward to getting out on the bike but at the moment that's only on weekends. now that's not to say that if i spent the same amount of money on another bike i wouldn't be itching to get out on it but there's someone special (i think) about riding a carbon bike since it's lighter than most i don't feel the need to shave my legs for those extra seconds :pac:

i took a punt from recommendations here and i'm most happy with that and at the end of it all, that's all that really matters.

CramCycle

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

it's my first bike, and i love it. that what you want from that i probably don't know better.

thats all you want, if you love it, who cares about anyone else

tunney

Lumen wrote: »

Nanolight High Modulus SRAM Red Limited Edition £1,499.00. Complete bike weight 6.90 kg.

That's nuts. I paid almost that much for the groupset alone last year.

edit: because I'm an idiot.

Remember when you were younger the free toys you got with your breakfast cereals?

niceonetom

Has the internet decided whether the nanolight is any good or not yet?

Lumen

tunney wrote: »

Remember when you were younger the free toys you got with your breakfast cereals?

They were brilliant!

niceonetom

@tunney - are you saying that if you put baking powder in a planet-x they will propel themselves around the bathtub?

CheGuedara

Just noticed a £100 pound difference between the P-X nanolight frame and the nanolight HM frame.

The difference? The HM frame apprently is 99g lighter (frame size?) and will accomodate 23mm clincher tyres, the other tubs only.

£100 pounds more to be able to use clincher tyres (forget the small weight saving) - Barking

ednwireland

niceonetom wrote: »

Has the internet decided whether the nanolight is any good or not yet?

someone here reckons that they only have 1mm clearance with 23mm tyres :eek:
http://www.bikeradar.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=16282684

niceonetom

CheGuedara wrote: »

Just noticed a £100 pound difference between the P-X nanolight frame and the nanolight HM frame.

The difference? The HM frame apprently is 99g lighter (frame size?) and will accomodate 23mm clincher tyres, the other tubs only.

£100 pounds more to be able to use clincher tyres (forget the small weight saving) - Barking

Jesus. I hadn't noticed that.

Nanolight High Modulus:
Wheels 700C. with clearance for 22mm tyres

That, if accurate, is a total deal breaker. I wouldn't go below 23mm in Ireland.

AstraMonti

niceonetom wrote: »

Has the internet decided whether the nanolight is any good or not yet?

No but it comes with great excuse: I am slow because it's flexy.

ednwireland wrote: »

someone here reckons that they only have 1mm clearance with 23mm tyres :eek:
http://www.bikeradar.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=16282684

True, I was reading somewhere that PlanetX suggests to use 22mm tyres.

Edit: Tom I am using 22mm in front the last 6 months, and it's really grand, 24 on the back though.

tunney

ednwireland wrote: »

someone here reckons that they only have 1mm clearance with 23mm tyres :eek:
http://www.bikeradar.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=16282684

Lets hope this frame doesn't flex

Stark

Lumen wrote: »

They were brilliant!

I wish I still had the Corn Flakes wheel spoke reflectors. (And a TT bike so I could show up to a triathlon with them on the wheels).

Lumen

niceonetom wrote: »

Jesus. I hadn't noticed that.

Nanolight High Modulus:
Wheels 700C. with clearance for 22mm tyres

That, if accurate, is a total deal breaker. I wouldn't go below 23mm in Ireland.

Planet X High Modulus Tyre Clearance

The Nanolight is designed as a thoroughbred race machine, we pushed all elements of the frames design to make it light and rigid. On the original this meant tight wheel clearances, as it's designed for use with tubulars. The feedback from customers on this frame has been very positive but the some commented that they wanted more clearance to run a wider tyre.

Introducing the High Modulus Nanolight. Not only is it 99 grams lighter than the original (for the white medium version) it's rear-stays have been modified to comfortably accommodate 23mm clinchers, making it perfect for both balls-out racing and steady training rides.

See the image for a detailed shot of the frame with 23 mm Scwalbe Blizzard's you can clearly see ample frame clearance.

tunney

Stark wrote: »

I wish I still had the Corn Flakes wheel spoke reflectors. (And a TT bike so I could show up to a triathlon with them on the wheels).

I'm sure your overweight cycling buddies in full Disco (or Mellow Johnnies) gear would appreciate it as you climb the Col de Sally Gap.