Government recommended to toll National Roads & more

mb1725

Anybody remember this? http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?47027-Satellite-toll-plan-to-make-drivers-pay-by-the-mile/page2

No toll booths needed!!!

Max Power1

mike65 wrote: »

Toll roads and fuel, one or the other and not the former actually.

+1
Currently we pay taxes and duty on fuel- needed to drive on the roads, we pay motor tax - required to use the road infrastructure, and we pay various registration taxes (some on dubious legal standings to say the least).

We are already taxed on owning a car(motor tax), taxed per use (fuel duty), and they want to bring in tolls on roads funded by the taxpayer already? They can fcuk right off with that one.

Time for someone to assasinate Gormley and get the tree hugging hippies out of government. As mentioned, how can a group who have at best 3% national support, dictate national transport policy and charges? Im raging over this tbh.

Anan1

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

I wouldn't say Gormless is a clown.
I WOULD say that he's a cheap, lying, no-good, rotten, four-flushing, low-life, snake-licking, dirt-eating, inbred, overstuffed, ignorant, blood-sucking, dog-kissing, brainless, dickless, hopeless, heartless, fat-ass, bug-eyed, stiff-legged, spotty-lipped, worm-headed sack of monkey sh*t!
And a cnut.

Enough with the abuse (and, mb1725 & PaintDoctor, the silly pictures). How hard is it to compose a rational argument against something you disagree with?

Heroditas

Anan1 wrote: »

How hard is it to compose a rational argument against something you disagree with?

You could say the same about Gormley and his stance against the incinerator! :pac:

D_murph

We seriously need to have a bloody coup of this shower in the Dáil and the sooner the better :mad::mad:.

They seem to think that a car is a luxury but most people need them to get to work etc. The clowns in government don't even drive themselves. They have chauffeurs so they have no idea how hard it is to pay for road tax and fuel and repairs etc and they don't give a sh1t either :rolleyes: but just tax the poor person who cant have a say in it :mad::mad::mad:.

If everyone defied these tolls and refused to pay them, they would have a hard job trying to find them all and lock them up .

Anan1

Heroditas wrote: »

You could say the same about Gormley and his stance against the incinerator! :pac:

Yeah well, Gormley's not here so I can't ban him.;)

Owen

Is a having a bit of craic and a sense of humour against the motors charter now too? Sorry for the picture if it is!! Didn't mean to upset anyone.

TheInquisitor

skyhighflyer wrote: »

Abolish motor tax and toll the roads and fuel instead.

Much like income tax isn't used to fund employment, motor tax is not ringfenced for roads. It is a tax on a source (the motor) that was never actually defined to be spent on any related expenditure. The sole purpose of motor tax is to generate general pocket money for local authorities.

Dislike it all you want, but that's how it is.

robdsherlock

TheInquisitor wrote: »

Much like income tax isn't used to fund employment, motor tax is not ringfenced for roads. It is a tax on a source (the motor) that was never actually defined to be spent on any related expenditure. The sole purpose of motor tax is to generate general pocket money for local authorities.

Dislike it all you want, but that's how it is.

your spot on!!
but what i dont get is why it is/was regulated by what engine size you have?!?

mike65

Bigger the engine, bigger the car, bigger the price, the richer you are!

dr.fuzzenstein

Anan1 wrote: »

Enough with the abuse (and, mb1725 & PaintDoctor, the silly pictures). How hard is it to compose a rational argument against something you disagree with?

Point taken, but I'm afraid you can't argue rationally against insanity...

Our man in Havana

They best abolish road tax if any of this carry on is to happen.

mike65

More tolling talk on Newstalk right now, mulitple tolling points on M50 for example.

conneem-TT

mike65 wrote: »

More tolling talk on Newstalk right now, mulitple tolling points on M50 for example.

I suppose it would be fairer if there were maybe five or six free flow tolling points along the road but only if each tolled about 30 cent, therefore you only got the full toll charge if you used the whole road but no doubt if it was properly proposed it would mean an absurd total charge if you went through all of them.