Final Fantasy 14 (FFXIV)

Dcully

Lone Stone wrote: »

anyone have a link to a good streaming vid or anything

Quick look on twitch

http://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/Final%20Fantasy%20XIV%20Online:%20A%20Realm%20Reborn

IRL_Sinister

Dcully wrote: »

Quick look on twitch

http://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/Final%20Fantasy%20XIV%20Online:%20A%20Realm%20Reborn

MMORPG have been given permission to stream the game (excluding the cutscenes).

Noxin

Well I must admit I was a tad worried about the full game registration being launch day today... I had no need.

Had my code this morning. Went to the mog station to register half expecting the site to be down or very sluggish. It wasn't.
Entered code. Registration complete. Set up sub. No paypal option is $hite but I'm sure that'll appear down the line. Set up complete.

Everything went off without a hitch. Decided to test the server just to see (am in work on a crappy PC that struggles to run it on low in a tiny window) but none the less, got in. No queue, no errors. Could this be the start of something beautiful? :P

BTW lads, if you do get "This world is currently full" just keep trying. I've had it every time I tried to log in during early access. It still never took me more than 10 minutes to get in. Once I ended up in a queue of over 700 and it logged me in 2 minutes later.

Dcully

Loads of streams up now, pretty much any streamer ive asked are raving about the game.

Dcully

Decided to buy the game, think ill roll on Phoenix server.

Notorioux

This game is very addicting on my way to become a summoner \o/ any of yous playing on Behemoth server?

jaxdasher

I have to buy the game to do the trial. Weird.

Sephiroth_dude

Had no problems getting onto odin today \0/

Dcully

Hmm tad confused about the classes, i understand i can have em all on one character.
But will my Gladiator that i start with be as good a healer as if i started as a healer?
Heard something about i may not get all skills and stats?

Razleavy

Yoshi P's speech from the launch event.

Translation from Reddit:

This is crazy.
Before I say anything, let me first start by saying that these 3 days we had intended to use for early-access were interrupted by emergency maintenance, which resulted in PC players in North America and Europe that were really looking forward to this missing out on a lot of play time, and I would like to use this part of the presentation, which is being broadcast worldwide, to apologize for that right now. We are truly sorry.
We are about to set out on a very long journey together, and as such, I would really do hope that I can redeem myself for that mistake.
Uhm... <pause>
"Do your best!"
Uhm... It has been about 3 years since I inherited this FFXIV project. At first, well, I had never been that involved with the game, but I thought, "I can probably do something with this." And ultimately, since I really enjoy the FF series myself, I gathered the staff and we discussed the idea of re-making the game.
I remember it even now, it was December 1st and we were in a studio just like this, and the mixer room was just above me. And they were adjusting the mic that I was to use. That whole scene really left an impression on me. I was right there with the players thinking, "Can we really save this? This will be no small task."
One by one folks started giving us their support, even those people who firmly believed that it would take at least 4 to 5 years to create a solid MMORPG. We didn't waste a second and did our best not to rush the work and take our time during the planning process, we would say when handling the companies day-to-day affairs that our company is the tank. We stayed out in the front and we kept moving forward, and eventually came this far.
I can't even take credit for the creation of FFXIV:ARR. It really was thanks to the fans worldwide, our core staff here beside me, and the hundreds of other staff members who contributed but were unable to make it here tonight that we made it this far.
Honestly, I did not plan on crying here tonight, but for us, finally, FFXIV can start the first step of its true rebirth. This is no time to take a rest. We will keep focused on the next patch, the next expansion, and continue at full strength. And really, I'd like to address those FFXIV community members who I'm sure faced criticism from their friends about the fact that they stuck with FFXIV despite all its problems, to us, this 2.5, 3 years went by so quickly, but for the players it was such a long wait. Everyone at Square Enix can truly say that their hard work helped to repair any damage done to the Final Fantasy name. It is not a perfectly finished MMORPG, but we all arrived at this point together. We created this game together. We want to make this an unforgettable entry in the series that we all enjoy together and are still playing 5 years or even 10 years from now, and that all starts today.
Thank you very much.

Not very often you see this display of emotion

Dcully

Cant log in, world is full message

Still cant get my head around the class system.

Razleavy

Dcully wrote: »

Cant log in, world is full message

Still cant get my head around the class system.

Skills you don't have to worry about, bar the ones that you have to quest for that class.

Jobs share their attributes points with their respective classes, but I don't know if that means that you can go say.. VIT for GLD and then say.. Int for whatever and have them separate.
I do know that you can reset attributes with a scroll purchased for 10k GC.

Razleavy

Ok, I think attributes for base classes are all separate so you can go for VIT on one base class and Int on another. Your Job e.g. Warrior then takes some attributes from it two base classes. I hope this is how it goes, need to get back to revision.. after tomorrow I can rot away in Eorzea

Dcully

Thanks guys, does this mean my current lvl 7 Gladiator can at some stage be a Conjurer 100% and be just as effective a healer as if i rolled a new character as conjurer? If you get my meaning.

Razleavy

Dcully wrote: »

Thanks guys, does this mean my current lvl 7 Gladiator can at some stage be a Conjurer 100% and be just as effective a healer as if i rolled a new character as conjurer? If you get my meaning.

Ok, definitely going back to revision after this! Attribute points used on a class are only for that class, so yes you can level GLD and pump w/e into it and then level something else and use the points earned on that for different attributes.

To summarise, points are tied to classes and not the character itself.

Noxin

Yup as Raz said. As far as I know, the attribute points you acquire are class based and not character.

From what I can tell (but I am no expert), you technically only need one character... It can do everything. Obviously leveling all classes / jobs to max will take forvever and a day but the option is there (not to mention gearing). Personally I love the idea..

Like I said, this is how I THINK it works. I could be mistaken.

btw, logged into Odin straight away just now.

Gunmonkey

Noxin wrote: »

Yup as Raz said. As far as I know, the attribute points you acquire are class based and not character.

From what I can tell (but I am no expert), you technically only need one character... It can do everything. Obviously leveling all classes / jobs to max will take forvever and a day but the option is there (not to mention gearing). Personally I love the idea..

Like I said, this is how I THINK it works. I could be mistaken.

btw, logged into Odin straight away just now.

I think this is how it works, originally rolled a Lancer and picked up Maraduer so I could try tanking, the extra attribute points from Lancer didnt show up when I switched to Maraduer. The only crossover seems to be some skills can be used by other classes, wouldnt know which, its in the "Skills & Actions" tab there is a slot called "Extra" where you can pick abilities from other classes youve unlocked. Ive none so far, think they are mainly in the lvl 30-40 brackets.

Sephiroth_dude

Gunmonkey wrote: »

I think this is how it works, originally rolled a Lancer and picked up Maraduer so I could try tanking, the extra attribute points from Lancer didnt show up when I switched to Maraduer. The only crossover seems to be some skills can be used by other classes, wouldnt know which, its in the "Skills & Actions" tab there is a slot called "Extra" where you can pick abilities from other classes youve unlocked. Ive none so far, think they are mainly in the lvl 30-40 brackets.

when did you pick marauder?and where?

Noxin

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

when did you pick marauder?and where?

Marauders guild is in Limsa Lominsa. You can pick up any new classes after you complete your chosen class level 10 mission.
Depending on your starting class (and as such, location) you might not have access to Limsa Lominsa yet. Continue doing the story quests and you will get a quest which opens air travel to both other starting areas.

ArthurG

Noxin wrote: »

Marauders guild is in Limsa Lominsa. You can pick up any new classes after you complete your chosen class level 10 mission.
Depending on your starting class (and as such, location) you might not have access to Limsa Lominsa yet. Continue doing the story quests and you will get a quest which opens air travel to both other starting areas.

Not had as much time online as I'd have liked over the last few days. Got my THM to 18 last night (I think it was 18), and got the airship quest mentioned above. Landed in LL, but was getting late so returned to Uldah and logged out in my Inn room.

Torn over what to do now, really enjoying levelling the THM, but need to switch classes, which I'll probably do Friday / weekend. One thing I do regret doing is dumping all my starter gear - I will of course need it when I go back to level 1 for whatever job I do next.....

Found I could get onto Odin after about 5/10 minutes of spamming numpad 0, which wasn't too bad. I did find it slightly laggy at times, but not terrible, and I'm sure it will improve further.

There was a noticeable step up in quest difficulty (but not enough to stop me in my tracks) over the last few, with multiple mobs to deal with, crowd control necessary and so on. But its a nice progression, you feel like you're getting somewhere.

Really like to progressive nature of the guildleves or guldhests or whatever they are called. Did a few last night, including one where you have to drug a giant turtle..... rather amusing.

Looking forward to spending an inordinate amount of time playing at the weekend!!

Noxin

If I wasn't in work at the moment I'd take a screenshot of my armory pack show you the state my gear is at. Complete mess because at this rate I have a Gladiator, Conjurer, Miner, Botanist, Carpenter, Leather Worker, etc. etc.. you get the picture. Basically every gathering / crafting class and two battle classes each with own gear. I really need to go through it and sort it out...

I do recommend holding onto starter gear and unlike what I did, when you get a quest where you already have that piece of armor or better, get the opposite version. As in, if you are a caster, pick up the STR gear for leveling a new class. Else you will spend the first few levels fighting naked.

For new classes you do not get new quests.. That is the trick of leveling all classes. Sure you can do the starter quests in the two areas you have not visited but that will get you maybe two pieces of armor and around 3 levels and again, are not repeatable. After that you are relying on hunts (which are separate for each class) and hests / leves. This is the one thing that will cause people to roll new characters for new classes I think.
I've been taking my time with the game to be honest and have not once gotten bored. Even while gathering / crafting. Tanked the first instance last night. Straight forward enough. Last boss has a slight tactic to it but nothing major if you have played an MMO before. Currently at level 18 with Glad.

As far as Odin is concerned. They are still restricting logons for a while to make sure the load can be handled. This really should have been done during beta but none the less.. It shouldn't last too long. It was much better yesterday compared to early access for me at least so hopefully it is already improving.

This came from a Dev so that'll mean good news for logging on and character creation:

However, the second half of the announcement regarding increasing the capacity of our data centers was meant to also encompass North American and European data center Worlds and not just be limited to Japan data center Worlds.

We deeply apologize for causing concern amongst the North American and European community due to our lack of clarity. Capacity will be increased for data centers in all regions.

Once again, thank you for your understanding and cooperation to help us welcome more players to the game.

cherryghost

So general consensus over the internet is that this is a fantastic game. I may take the plunge so.

Dcully

Got to lvl 10 on my Glad lastnight, so far so good, incredibly polished.
Ive learned not to be too hasty in proclaiming an MMO as being great but so far its very good.

Dcully

Getting this error when i try start the launcher.

Nevermind , sorted!

Nemesis

Where are you Cully? I'm coming in!

Dcully

Nemesis wrote: »

Where are you Cully? I'm coming in!

Phoenix EU

Might roll a conjurer for my usual healing fix :P
Not sure if i want to do the class change thing and have no quests and have to do those hunt grinds,then again might just see how it actually works before rerolling.

name is Allene Slater if anyone wants to add me :P

Noxin

Dcully wrote: »

Phoenix EU

Might roll a conjurer for my usual healing fix :P
Not sure if i want to do the class change thing and have no quests and have to do those hunt grinds,then again might just see how it actually works before rerolling.

name is Allene Slater if anyone wants to add me :P

Although it does sound tedious, one thing I will point out is that the level difference between your main class and any alt classes directly effects the amount of xp you earn. The greater the level difference, the greater the xp earned.
Also then from around level 17 or so you will have access to the various dungeons for quick xp gain.
But each to their own. I have four characters created but only use one. No idea if I'll ever use the others to be honest.

Gunmonkey

Dcully wrote: »

Phoenix EU

Might roll a conjurer for my usual healing fix :P
Not sure if i want to do the class change thing and have no quests and have to do those hunt grinds,then again might just see how it actually works before rerolling.

name is Allene Slater if anyone wants to add me :P

You will still have the Levemetes available for Lvl 1 characters, they go up in groups of 5 (lvl 1, lvl 5, lvl 10). And since you earn passes every 12 hours, you could store them up for plowing through a new class. Plus each class has its own quest chain, not a massive amount of xp but still better than grinding mob kills.

I also randomly picked Phoenix EU during the head start so might see you guys on there, char name is Ferathir Lashon.

Kiith

Looks like they've halted digital sales for the moment, and are upgrading their servers.

Square Enix wrote:

Due to the overwhelmingly positive response to FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn, we are currently experiencing extremely long wait times for users to be able to log in and play. As a temporary measure, we will halt sales of FINAL FANTASY XIV: A REALM REBORN’s digital download products so we can accommodate all of those wishing to play. We are working to expand our server capacity in the coming days.

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2013/08/final-fantasy-xiv-is-so-popular-square-enix-is-halting-sales/

ArthurG

Got onto Odin just after 6 last night after about 5 mins of keyboard bashing.

Got cnj upto level 12 pretty quickly, brilliant having cure, protect and raise available on thm now.

The gear sets are an absolute God send, really don't have to worry about inventory space at all. I've started collecting quest rewards for other classes too, to save me running around in the nip when I start a new one >.>

Noxin

Glad now at 19, Conj at 8.

Gladiator + protect as a cross spell really does limit the amount of damage I can take.

Tanked the final two beginner instances last night. First of the two was a doddle. Second had a little more tactic to it.
Second boss involves the use of bomb mobs to weaken the boss a number of times before actually being able to kill it, all while another mob spawns to annoy you. Still easy enough.

The final boss is a bit tougher. Hits pretty hard. Spawns an add that attacks a wall which you need to take down asap. Eventually this wall will break and more adds will come. If DPS is lacking it can cause the group to be overwhelmed by adds. We wiped on first try but got it the second. Really it just involves good use of limit breaks and it should be fine.

Got access to a retainer now too.

lovesfatgirls

came looking for a thread like this im glad to see so many have picked this game up, so ive a question is it worth picking up a ps3 solely for this game?(p.c is out of the question) it looks great and looks fairly deep aswell. the money isnt really the issue for the console because of ps+, its the subscription to play, im about 6 months out of a WoW coma so im a bit on the ropes/skeptical about putting money into another mmo, ive heard alot of horror stories about farmers and gold sellers in ff11, so any input would be appreciated.

aperture_nuig

This has piqued my interest. As someone who has absolutely no experience in MMO's (but plenty with the offline FF's) is this an easy game to get into?

ArthurG

aperture_nuig wrote: »

This has piqued my interest. As someone who has absolutely no experience in MMO's (but plenty with the offline FF's) is this an easy game to get into?

Knowing the whole FF lore will make the game familiar, but tbh its a pretty different ball game to an offline game. Did you play FFXII?. I loved it, but a lot didn't cos it played like an 'offline MMO'.

Having said that the learning curve is pretty kind, and if you read up a bit on the trinity of healer, tank and damage dealer (and pick a style you like - or try them all and choose, which you can do on 1 character), and focus on getting good at that.

Its a fun game - but be wary of the MMO time sink, they can take over your life very easily......

Dcully

The more i play the more i like.
Its an absolutely beautiful looking game,it has to be seen to be believed.
My only complaint is the map is hard to understand, well the zone you are in is fine, its actually a very intuitive map but when your looking to go to another zone its a tad confusing,could be just me however.

Kiith

Anyone playing on the PS3? Would love to give it a go, but don't have a pc currently.

Also, i'm guessing if i started on a PS3, i couldn't then play using the same account using a pc in a few months?

Razleavy

Kiith wrote: »

Anyone playing on the PS3? Would love to give it a go, but don't have a pc currently.

Also, i'm guessing if i started on a PS3, i couldn't then play using the same account using a pc in a few months?

Can play on both formats with one account, but you need a copy of the game for each.

Kiith

Razleavy wrote: »

Can play on both formats with one account, but you need a copy of the game for each.

Excellent. Will definitely pick this up over the weekend.

Actually...might not be a good idea. Dcully is playing as well, and together we can bring any MMO to it's knees in a matter of weeks :P

ArthurG

With messing around on other classes etc, I had fallen behind a bit on the main story, so caught up somewhat last night.

I can confirm that a THM can easily main heal the lvl 15 dungeon (Shahasta or whatever its called). In fact THM is probably better than a CNJ as a quick blizzard on the tanks target will get your the Umbral Ice buff to refill your MP in a matter of seconds, I dont think i ever fell below 80% total MP. 0 KOs and all but 1 of the coffers had magey drops, so i did rather well overall

Half thinking of doing some crafting tonight, but also want to continue story up to Ifrit fight.... we'll see later. So much to do, so little time (I'm away with work for the next 3 weeks, getting withdrawal symptoms already).

Dcully

I have to say im totally ignoring the story,im just clicking through the walls of text.

Noxin

Dcully wrote: »

I have to say im totally ignoring the story,im just clicking through the walls of text.

Try not to. There is some great humor in it. Sure it is a lot of reading but that is Final Fantasy in general. And to be honest, reading is way better than the god awful voice acting in game :P

Didn't get much play time last night. Quiet weekend ahead so looking forward to doing a bit more. At this point I just want my mount :pac:

@ArthurG I've been reading up on the dungons. The first three are just introductory. Apparently after this it's a whole new ball game that will separate the good from the bad. Personally I can't wait to see. As tank, I found the first three quite basic. Looking forward to the rest. I've not tanked a proper dungeon since the original Blackwing Lair in wow. Those were the days!

ArthurG

Noxin wrote: »

@ArthurG I've been reading up on the dungons. The first three are just introductory. Apparently after this it's a whole new ball game that will separate the good from the bad. Personally I can't wait to see. As tank, I found the first three quite basic. Looking forward to the rest. I've not tanked a proper dungeon since the original Blackwind Lair in wow. Those were the days!

Yes I agree, it was very basic, just an intro really.Then again some people do need it - we had the old DPS pulling multiple mobs thing, not waiting for the tank and so on. No one died but I think the message got through (i.e. my focus as healer is the tank, if you run off pulling mobs you might die etc).

Looking forward to more challenging content however reading the forums it appears that THM/BLM damage is looking a bit weak which is worrying. No doubt there'll be some balancing done in the weeks and months ahead though.

ArthurG

Pretty thorough update on server status:

http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/1ld2rv/further_details_on_access_restrictions/

TLDR: massively underestimated demand as they though the bad taste left from 1.0 would put people off......

Razleavy

One of the best things about Final Fantasy MMOs is that they actually have a good story! Not half assed attempts like some others out there.
Expansions are also something to look forward to if it's anything like FFXI! I still regard the FFXI expansion Chains of Promathia to be one of the best gaming experiences that I have experienced

Lone Stone

still cant buy which now makes me want to buy it
Dam you brain psyche thingy

ArthurG

Razleavy wrote: »

Expansions are also something to look forward to if it's anything like FFXI! I still regard the FFXI expansion Chains of Promathia to be one of the best gaming experiences that I have experienced

I agree - I'm still in touch with my static from CoP 5/6 years later. Jesus that was an emotional rollercoaster, finally getting to Sea was such an achievement, I think I wept when I zoned in the first time. That weapon battle on the airship, dear God, the number of tries to get it. Kids have it easy nowadays......

ArthurG

Just finished Tam Tara dungeon. When you hand it in, there an hilarious cut scene featuring some NPCs who are berating a healer for.... well I won't spoil it, but it was funny......

Noxin

Absolutely knackered tonight so didn't do too much. Learned about Materia and how to make it and add it to gear.

Did however just pick up a quest called Lord of the Inferno. I believe me and Ifrit will soon be having a showdown however I kinda want to get some better gear before I go. I hate the idea of being a badly geared tank trying to do instances too tough for him.. :P

Dcully

My Gladiator is lvl 18 now, i thought id lvl up the conjurer to 15 as i think i need it to access the Paladin job on Gladiator later?
Either way it was a total grind and a pain to lvl up without story quests,im guessing it just got so slow as the gap between the Glad lvl 18 got smaller thus negating the xp bonus you get depending on how many levels apart you are from your main class --- if that makes sense.

Sephiroth_dude

Is it necessary to keep changing class ?