Isreal and American forces ready to attack Iran within days

Jeboa Safari

Parts of Israel destroyed, civilian casualties, facing Iran,Syria, Increased activity in Palestine..... This is not a result of war, this is a reason to strike. Don't you think that every single move is planned ?

Civilian casualties LMFAO

I'm sure they have plans, and I'd say those plans show that an attack would be stupid for those reasons.

America didn't "join" the first 2 world wars. (you say "join" like they joined a club and got a membership). They instigated the 2 wars

Links? That aren't too long but detailed enough

Wake up !!

Eh enlighten me then?

Merch

TalkieWalkie wrote: »

America didn't "join" the first 2 world wars. (you say "join" like they joined a club and got a membership). They instigated the 2 wars :rolleyes:

How did America instigate WW1 or WW2, Woodrow wilson opposed the Versaille treaty so that rules out WW2 and the first war???

And if this attack was going to happen witihin days then how come it hasn't begun?

squod

Find out who financed both wars.

IrelandSpirit

exactly, follow the money ... :mad:

Jeboa Safari

IrelandSpirit wrote: »

Well, I for one think the attack on Pearl Harbour was a false flag to get the American people onside for joining in, but that's a topic that's been done to death at this stage.

What I believe could happen is the US will make a public show of discouraging Israel, while secretly supporting them - gotta remember that they've been arming the Israeli state to the teeth for years - and although no doubt the death toll would be high, we're talking about people who do not care about these things: a million here, a million there, plenty more where they came from.

I doubt it was false flag, I'm open to the idea that they may have allowed Japan to attack so they'd be able to finally join the war, although I'm not convinced. And it was Germany that declared war on the US.
I assume the US will supply Israel, after all they're an ally.

A million here or there would make a huge difference to Israel, with a population of less than 8 million.

IrelandSpirit

Jeboa Safari wrote: »

I assume the US will supply Israel, after all they're an ally.

Definitely.

A million here or there would make a huge difference to Israel, with a population of less than 8 million.

It would make a huge difference to the common people, yes, they'd have to live with the aftermath.

Merch

squod wrote: »

Find out who financed both wars.

Wether they financed it or not is irrelevant, that suggests they paid for it once it was going, but the US was isolationist at the beginning of both those wars. They didnt instigate WW1 at the very least, it was a cumulation of imperial sabre rattling and militarism.

Jeboa Safari wrote: »

I doubt it was false flag, I'm open to the idea that they may have allowed Japan to attack so they'd be able to finally join the war, although I'm not convinced. And it was Germany that declared war on the US.

I wouldn't rule it out, either that or it was a spectacular f*ck up with a lot of coincidences that came together to bring one hell of a disaster that changed public opinion from isolationist to all out support, but that doesnt mean they instigated WW2, they were at the very least trying to get into it as they knew it was coming to their doorstep soon.

TalkieWalkie

Jeboa Safari wrote: »

I'm sure they have plans, and I'd say those plans show that an attack would be stupid for those reasons.

Oh yeah, they have never done stupid stuff before right ?

Those reasons have stopped stupid attacks before right ?

Jeboa Safari wrote: »

Links? That aren't too long but detailed enough

America funded Hitler to power. Link yourself

Jeboa Safari wrote: »

Eh enlighten me then?

I have enlightened you already, enlighten yourself.

Wake up !!!

TalkieWalkie

Merch wrote: »

Wether they financed it or not is irrelevant

Is it ?

The phrase "They FUNDED it"

It doesnt suggest they "paid for it once it was going".

It suggests they funded it.


LOL

You are suggesting someone suggested that "they FUNDED it" means they "paid for it once it was going"

Why would you do that ?

It was "suggested", (and you stated it doesn't matter), they FUNDED it....

Jeboa Safari

A couple of individuals making abit of a profit on the war doesn't ammount to one nation funding the entire thing. Doesn't make much sense in my opinion either. Its no different than if Bertie Aherns owned a bank that dealt with the Nazis. Doesnt mean it would have been orchestrated by Ireland

Duiske

Jeboa Safari wrote: »

A million here or there would make a huge difference to Israel, with a population of less than 8 million.

The odd million ? Since 2001 the US have been giving Israel an average of about 2.5 billion per year in military grants. In 2000 and 2003 it was close to 4 billion. Source

Jeboa Safari

Duiske wrote: »

The odd million ? Since 2001 the US have been giving Israel an average of about 2.5 billion per year in military grants. In 2000 and 2003 it was close to 4 billion. Source

People, not money

TalkieWalkie

Jeboa Safari wrote: »

A couple of individuals making abit of a profit on the war doesn't ammount to one nation funding the entire thing. Doesn't make much sense in my opinion either. Its no different than if Bertie Aherns owned a bank that dealt with the Nazis. Doesnt mean it would have been orchestrated by Ireland

Your right, it make no difference.

Lad's, Im'a lay down and die. Im'a throw away my little piece of free choice because I just don't think my thought's don't matter anymore.

Wake up!!!

fontanalis

TalkieWalkie wrote: »

Your right, it make no difference.

Lad's, Im'a lay down and die. Im'a throw away my little piece of free choice because I just don't think my thought's don't matter anymore.

Wake up!!!

Jeboa Safari

Sounds to me like your the one living in fantasy land

Wake up!!!

Joshua Jones

Jeboa Safari wrote: »

A couple of individuals making abit of a profit on the war doesn't ammount to one nation funding the entire thing. Doesn't make much sense in my opinion either. Its no different than if Bertie Aherns owned a bank that dealt with the Nazis. Doesnt mean it would have been orchestrated by Ireland

Praise be, he sees it, he actually understan....... hold on, nah he doesn't.

IrelandSpirit

Jeboa Safari wrote: »

A couple of individuals making abit of a profit on the war doesn't ammount to one nation funding the entire thing. Doesn't make much sense in my opinion either. Its no different than if Bertie Aherns owned a bank that dealt with the Nazis. Doesnt mean it would have been orchestrated by Ireland

It makes all the difference in the world: the government (supposedly) serves the will of the people of a nation.

joesoap007

http://www.rferl.org/content/Iran_Digs_Graves_For_US_Troops_In_Case_Of_Attack/2123900.html

hope they fill them to the top if invaded ,but keep room for idf baby killers to.

Bushehr nuclear power plant is up running. Russian built i think and its russian fuel thats been used to start it..

iran will you please start selling oil in euros.

alastair

meglome wrote: »

Well I don't know one way or the other. However I don't need to turn to the dark side (become a CT'er ) to imagine that spending the vast sums of money building nuclear power plants and all the associated plants in an oil rich country, just for electricity, doesn't really make sense.

Iran needs the income from their gas and what oil they have - and they reckon they need to establish a viable alternative energy source for the future. The oil rich country that is the main oil exporter to the US also has a nuclear power programme - Canada. No-one seems to be too bothered by their energy policy.

Andypando

I was reading from this site as of late. There is a lot of info as to Iran, and Israel.

http://alethonews.wordpress.com/

IrelandSpirit

alastair wrote: »

Iran needs the income from their gas and what oil they have - and they reckon they need to establish a viable alternative energy source for the future. The oil rich country that is the main oil exporter to the US also has a nuclear power programme - Canada. No-one seems to be too bothered by their energy policy.

wow, good one alastair - dead on.

uprising2

Usrael can't seem to get their much anticipated War with Iran off to a good start, seem's their big brother/uncle Sam isn't into a war just now, or so they pretend, the beating they were supposed to give Iraq and Afghanistan didn't go as planned and now they are leaving with tails between their legs, with the knowledge that maybe they're not that tough after all.:)

Usrael on the other hand seem to be trying to get it off a different way now, by flying into lebanese airspace, Lebanon or Hezbollah would be well within their right's to blow them out of the sky and I assume that's what Usrael want's.

These zionist muppets must be sniffing something and it must be good stuff if they are so far removed from reality that they forsee an Usrael victory, while the warmonger's hide in their bunker's giving order's the civilian's will be paying the price a few hundred feet above them.

Project Daniel

Four Israeli warplanes and one spy drone have illegally flown over Lebanon's airspace in the third day of provocative violations of the country's sovereignty.
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/139561.html
http://www.google.ie/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4GGLL_enIE381IE381&tbs=nws:1&&sa=X&ei=HlFxTMewNIS64QbS6aTeCA&ved=0CCEQBSgA&q=israel+flying+into+lebanese+airspace&spell=1


HYPOCRICY:
In a statement issued after the Islamic Republic celebrated the launch of its reactor in Bushehr, Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Yossi Levy said: “It is totally unacceptable that a country that so blatantly violates resolutions of the (United Nations) Security Council, decisions of the International Atomic Energy Agency and its commitments under the NPT (non-proliferation treaty) should enjoy the fruits of using nuclear energy.”
http://www.globalpost.com/webblog/israel-and-palestine/the-day-israel-sunday-aug-22nd-2010

Pertinent United Nations Security Council Resolutions Since 1967 As They Relate to Israel
http://www.mediamonitors.net/michaelsladah&suleimaniajlouni1.html

Jeboa Safari

I see Irans new message of friendship is a drone bomber

uprising2

Jeboa Safari wrote: »

I see Irans new message of friendship is a drone bomber

Maybe???

http://www.haaretz.com/news/is-iran-s-new-drone-really-an-israeli-aircraft-1.274294

But Iran had drone's already, they just claimed to have built one in Iran.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmPhuxknYL4

meglome

alastair wrote: »

Iran needs the income from their gas and what oil they have - and they reckon they need to establish a viable alternative energy source for the future. The oil rich country that is the main oil exporter to the US also has a nuclear power programme - Canada. No-one seems to be too bothered by their energy policy.

I'm not dismissing that they may want nuclear power for legitimate reasons out of hand. I just don't believe they only want nuclear power. And I can't quite visualise the Canadians being a major threat to anyone.

alastair

meglome wrote: »

I'm not dismissing that they may want nuclear power for legitimate reasons out of hand. I just don't believe they only want nuclear power. And I can't quite visualise the Canadians being a major threat to anyone.

I wouldn't dispute the likelihood of a weapons capacity intent by at least some in the Iranian nuclear energy programme. But the argument that they're suspicious because they have lots of gas doesn't wash with me. And it's the quiet ones you have to watch - Canada has after all invaded the USA once already. Who's to say they're not plotting once again?

uprising2

meglome wrote: »

And I can't quite visualise the Canadians being a major threat to anyone.

Unless your a seal cub.

I'm sure if enough media effort was put in like say pre Iraq invasion, anything is possible and perceptions changed.

Actually Iran doesn't have a warmonger history, Iraq attacked them.

Canada isn't as nice as you may think either.....

http://canadiangenocide.nativeweb.org/

The Canadian Holocaust Genocide Of The Indian Peoples In Canada
http://www.akha.org/content/humanrightsdocs/thecanadiangenocide.html

EDIT:
Jasper Joseph is a sixty-four year old native man from Port Hardy, British Columbia. His eyes still fill with tears when he remembers his cousins who were killed with lethal injections by staff at the Nanaimo Indian Hospital, in 1944


So you see they can be just as evil basstards as anybody when they put their mind's to it

Jeboa Safari

uprising2 wrote: »

Maybe???

http://www.haaretz.com/news/is-iran-s-new-drone-really-an-israeli-aircraft-1.274294

But Iran had drone's already, they just claimed to have built one in Iran.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmPhuxknYL4

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-11052023

This one

"The key message is friendship," he added. "We must make efforts to render all the enemy's weapons useless with our defence potential."

Its a "messenger of death" aswell as friendship :S

meglome

alastair wrote: »

I wouldn't dispute the likelihood of a weapons capacity intent by at least some in the Iranian nuclear energy programme. But the argument that they're suspicious because they have lots of gas doesn't wash with me.

Sure it's not the only reason. And every country needs to look at it's long term energy security. It just seems to me that this is as much about nuclear weapons as anything else. I could easily be wrong but I'd rather not be. I'd rather that no additional country's get nuclear weapons.

alastair wrote: »

And it's the quiet ones you have to watch - Canada has after all invaded the USA once already. Who's to say they're not plotting once again?

Wasn't it the US that invaded Canada and burned their capital? Other than that there was some Irish guys that 'invaded' the US from Canada. Don't recall the details very well though.

Duiske

meglome wrote: »

I'm not dismissing that they may want nuclear power for legitimate reasons out of hand. I just don't believe they only want nuclear power. And I can't quite visualise the Canadians being a major threat to anyone.

Theres the problem. Iran have never said they want to have nuclear weapons, and no-one has proof that they intend to build nuclear weapons. Its heresay from the 'regime changers'.

Alastair said it very well a few posts back.

Iran needs the income from their gas and what oil they have - and they reckon they need to establish a viable alternative energy source for the future.

And not only is he correct, but Iran has absolutely every right to build nuclear power plants, despite what Israel are telling the world.
The right is given to them in this document, The Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty, which Iran has signed up to.
By the way, 4 countries have not signed this treaty. North Korea, Pakistan, India, and (surprise, surprise) Israel.
Israel has a policy of deliberate ambiguity with regard to its nuclear facilites / arsenal, and even refuses to accept IAEA inspections of them.