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Isreal and American forces ready to attack Iran within days

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,737 ✭✭✭enfant terrible


    uprising2 wrote: »
    Erm the latest, 2569, see you then!

    EDIT:
    Actually trying to be a smartasss with me need's a little smartasss attitude back, now read....



    read it again, take note of the word "May" and it's not the month I'm talking about.

    may1    /meɪ/ Show Spelled[mey] Show IPA
    –auxiliary verb, present singular 1st person may, 2nd may or ( Archaic ) may·est or mayst, 3rd may; present plural may; past might.
    1. (used to express possibility): It may rain.
    2. (used to express opportunity or permission): You may enter.
    3. (used to express contingency, esp. in clauses indicating condition, concession, purpose, result, etc.): I may be wrong but I think you would be wise to go. Times may change but human nature stays the same.
    4. (used to express wish or prayer): May you live to an old age.
    5. Archaic . (used to express ability or power.)

    OK do you expect there to be a nuclear attack on Iran before the end of this year or next year?

    No me neither.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    OK do you expect there to be a nuclear attack on Iran before the end of this year or next year?

    No me neither.

    Listen Buddy, I ask you something, when do you think USrael will decide Iran's uranium enrichment has gone "TOO FAR"?, do you see Iran stopping because their told to by 2 or 3 world bullies?

    Iran aint an angel but they are standing their ground without fear, you think conventional weapons will work against them and have them begging for mercy?.

    Israel and the US fear Iran at this stage, and are a little hesitant of the consequences that war with Iran will entail, they have them surrounded but thats a plus for Iran, the green zone in Bagdad will become the death zone for any US and Iraqi's soldiers and civilians alike.

    Hezbollah are no HAMAS, they sent Israel with tails between their legs back across the imaginary border 4 years ago.

    The attack will be launched against Iran, Syria, Hezbollah in Lebanon all in one deadly night, a night the world will regret ever came,


    When it comes it will be a nuclear strike FIRST, I can't give a date, but I'll say before the end of this year. (maybe sooner, before October 2010???),

    But that is my speculation, as I said earlier I am no prophet.

    But its on the cards, they havent the balls to try Iran with a conventional attack, it would be suicide for USrael,the 6 day war was a while ago now, things have changed.

    Buddy I'd advise you to educate yourself about this whole situation, the lies and spin involved.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,737 ✭✭✭enfant terrible


    uprising2 wrote: »
    Listen Buddy, I ask you something, when do you think USrael will decide Iran's uranium enrichment has gone "TOO FAR"?, do you see Iran stopping because their told to by 2 or 3 world bullies?

    Iran aint an angel but they are standing their ground without fear, you think conventional weapons will work against them and have them begging for mercy?.

    Israel and the US fear Iran at this stage, and are a little hesitant of the consequences that war with Iran will entail, they have them surrounded but thats a plus for Iran, the green zone in Bagdad will become the death zone for any US and Iraqi's soldiers and civilians alike.

    Hezbollah are no HAMAS, they sent Israel with tails between their legs back across the imaginary border 4 years ago.

    The attack will be launched against Iran, Syria, Hezbollah in Lebanon all in one deadly night, a night the world will regret ever came,


    When it comes it will be a nuclear strike FIRST, I can't give a date, but I'll say before the end of this year. (maybe sooner, before October 2010???),

    But that is my speculation, as I said earlier I am no prophet.

    But its on the cards, they havent the balls to try Iran with a conventional attack, it would be suicide for USrael,the 6 day war was a while ago now, things have changed.

    Buddy I'd advise you to educate yourself about this whole situation, the lies and spin involved.


    Israel probably will attack but no way will it be nuclear.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    Israel probably will attack but no way will it be nuclear.

    Ok then it's the end of USrael, watch the video, they don't have the means to do it conventionally, simple as, and they will be wiped off the map, they had a hard time giving aircover against Hezbollah on the Israel border, look at this map, look at USrael, look at the border with Lebanon, now look at Iran.

    Now think about it, hard time giving aircover on its own border, and they plan to destroy Irans capabilities, they will regret what they plan to do, but these masters will be far below ground looking for toilet paper while its citizens are left to try run and hide.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    Iran almost crippled by US sanctions
    The U.S. sanctions prohibit petroleum-related sales to Iran, yet China and Turkey have sold huge cargoes of gasoline to Tehran, and Russian officials say they will begin shipping gasoline as well later this month, according to industry officials. The four countries also have signed deals or opened talks on investments worth billions of dollars in Iran's oil and gas fields, petrochemical plants and pipelines.

    The countries "are making it very clear they are not going to go along with the new American and European efforts to ratchet up pressure on Iran," said Ben Rhode, an analyst with the International Institute for Strategic Studies in London.
    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-iran-sanctions-20100809,0,6722759.story

    Doesn't look like USrael are doing a good job with their crippling sanctions,
    ohh I kinda feel sorry for them now, poor USrael didn't get their way.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,737 ✭✭✭enfant terrible


    uprising2 wrote: »
    Ok then it's the end of USrael, watch the video, they don't have the means to do it conventionally, simple as, and they will be wiped off the map, they had a hard time giving aircover against Hezbollah on the Israel border, look at this map, look at USrael, look at the border with Lebanon, now look at Iran.

    Now think about it, hard time giving aircover on its own border, and they plan to destroy Irans capabilities, they will regret what they plan to do, but these masters will be far below ground looking for toilet paper while its citizens are left to try run and hide.

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    No need for nuclear weapons.

    "In September 2004, Israel announced that it would purchase approximately 5,000 precision-guided munitions from the United States, including about 500 equipped with the 2,000 lb.–class BLU-109 penetrating warhead.

    More recently, Israel has received approval to purchase 100 precision-guided munitions equipped with the 5,000 lb.–class BLU-113 penetrating warhead.

    One method for defeating hardened facilities is to use LGBs targeted on the
    same aim point but separated slightly in release time to “burrow” into the target, a technique contemplated by the U.S. Air Force in the 1990–91 Persian Gulf War. This takes advantage of the extremely high accuracy of LGBs in combination with a penetrating warhead. The IAF appears to have purchased penetrating LGBs with this technique in mind. Gen. Eitan Ben-Elyahu, former commander of the IAF and a participant in the Osirak strike, commented on this method of attacking hardened facilities in Jane’s Defence Weekly: “Even if one bomb would not suffice to penetrate, we could guide other bombs directly to the hole created by the previous ones and eventually destroy any target.”

    For a heavily hardened target such as Natanz, the BLU-113 would be the
    most likely weapon to use. One BLU-113 might be sufficient to penetrate the
    protective earth and concrete over the Natanz facility, but two properly sequenced almost certainly would."

    http://belfercenter.ksg.harvard.edu/files/is3104_pp007-033_raas_long.pdf


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 240 ✭✭pablo_escobar


    india, china, russia and other smaller countries such as turkey and brazil are pushing ahead with financial trade deals in iran despite sanctions.

    these countries all have their own priorities, they don't give a **** about israel and it's zionist ideologies.

    the US are no longer in any position to dictate terms of trade between countries in the world today.

    attack iran? hell nah.

    President Obama has personally urged Chinese President Hu Jintao not to allow his country's energy companies to fill the vacuum, U.S. officials say. A high-level U.S. delegation, headed by the State Department's top nonproliferation official, Robert Einhorn, is traveling to Beijing this month to appeal to Chinese officials.

    more

    sounds like Obama is sending some ass kissers with some financial incentives attached. will be interesting to see the what concessions the US offer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭old_aussie


    If it occurrs I think a couple of missiles on the uranium enrichment plant will be sufficient.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭meglome


    old_aussie wrote: »
    If it occurrs I think a couple of missiles on the uranium enrichment plant will be sufficient.

    Yeah i agree why attack a country directly like Iran when they can just fire in a load of missiles. There is no way America could afford a war with Iran right now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    No need for nuclear weapons.

    "In September 2004, Israel announced that it would purchase approximately 5,000 precision-guided munitions from the United States, including about 500 equipped with the 2,000 lb.–class BLU-109 penetrating warhead.

    More recently, Israel has received approval to purchase 100 precision-guided munitions equipped with the 5,000 lb.–class BLU-113 penetrating warhead.

    One method for defeating hardened facilities is to use LGBs targeted on the
    same aim point but separated slightly in release time to “burrow” into the target, a technique contemplated by the U.S. Air Force in the 1990–91 Persian Gulf War. This takes advantage of the extremely high accuracy of LGBs in combination with a penetrating warhead. The IAF appears to have purchased penetrating LGBs with this technique in mind. Gen. Eitan Ben-Elyahu, former commander of the IAF and a participant in the Osirak strike, commented on this method of attacking hardened facilities in Jane’s Defence Weekly: “Even if one bomb would not suffice to penetrate, we could guide other bombs directly to the hole created by the previous ones and eventually destroy any target.”

    For a heavily hardened target such as Natanz, the BLU-113 would be the
    most likely weapon to use. One BLU-113 might be sufficient to penetrate the
    protective earth and concrete over the Natanz facility, but two properly sequenced almost certainly would."

    http://belfercenter.ksg.harvard.edu/files/is3104_pp007-033_raas_long.pdf


    Yea that's all well and good, but what they gonna do about the millions of angry Iranian's with a weapon or two at their disposal, how many explosions and penetrations:eek: will those mentioned weapons make?, anyway there's no nuclear bombs in the targets them weapons will be aimed at, a few scientists may die, thousands maybe, but would these missiles deter Iran???

    It's the retaliation that will come that USrael fear, Iran will be having the biggest firework display since skyfest, others will be jealous and send some of their fireworks into the air aswell (hezbollah), Syria may get annoyed that some USraeli fireworks came into their garden and start sending some back.

    Then some US troops in Iraq and Afghanistan may think it's 4th July all over again, some USS ships may also think it must be 4th of July also while enjoying the fireworks, watching small boats with big fireworks.

    While all this celebration is going on 1000's of innocents in different countries will not be enjoying the celebrations, but the organisers won't give a sh1t about that, then the GI's will get confused when the celebrations are still going on on the 5th and 6th of July.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭fontanalis


    I wish the US and Israel would hurry up already. December 2012 is fast approaching.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    Looks like Iran are at it again, digging mass graves for US troops, upping production of 20% uranium, not dealing oil in $ or €, holding a summit to attempt to stabilize Afghanistan, accusing US of being the biggest sponsor of terrorists in the past 30 years.

    I was having a p1ss there a few mins ago and I could smell it stronger in my poolies that an attack is coming sooner rather than later.

    It reminds me of a bully in school, used to pick on everybody, one day as we were walking home from school he told my mate to carry his bag, my friend was the timid type and put his hand out to carry it, my father taught me well, I said I'd carry it and took it, then as a bus was passing I threw his bag under the wheels of the bus, I wasn't supposed to have done that, but the bully did jack sh1t, he was stunned that somebody under him would do something to enrage him, I kept walking as he tried to collect his mangled bag and books off the road, "Your DEAD" he said, but I'm still here and was back after lunch with a hammer in my school bag incase he tried to make me dead, but he didn't, bullies don't like being stood up to by lessers, and if he had tried to make me dead, he probably would have been.

    Iran increases uranium enrichment - IAEA
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-10925381

    Iran digging graves for US troops if they attack
    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5goykFnHZsAqRUFl1bXBuWbVNcpkgD9HGIO800

    Iran says to drop trade in 'filthy' dollar, euro
    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iJ0elHd-dKl2XcrDwbx2KZPTMBtQ

    Iran says will host regional meet on Afghanistan
    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hsUTrLopy829e4wxCMkLwrObfoyA

    U.S. turned into greatest backer of terrorism over last 30 years: Iran
    http://www.tehrantimes.com/Index_view.asp?code=224547

    Now some people here question why there is never any mention of Iran's questionable treatment of it's own citizens, but we're talking about the very real prospect of war here.
    If we open threads on Iran's domestic policy, then we have to talk about Saudi Arabia, UAE and countless other "friendly" despots around the globe who are good guys because uncle sam says so, how many here have heard of the kidnapped child slaves in UAE that are forced to ride camels in the races?, with death an everyday obstacle to try avoid?, but you see thats ok coz UAE are subservent.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    fontanalis wrote: »
    I wish the US and Israel would hurry up already. December 2012 is fast approaching.

    Wanna free flight to Tehran or Tel Aviv, all expenses paid?, I'll pay.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭fontanalis


    uprising2 wrote: »
    Wanna free flight to Tehran or Tel Aviv, all expenses paid?, I'll pay.

    No I'm just antsy for a war. The OP said days and that was weeks ago, either it's ready to happen or the post was BS!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    fontanalis wrote: »
    No I'm just antsy for a war. The OP said days and that was weeks ago, either it's ready to happen or the post was BS!

    No the post is not BS, your posts are!

    Your antsy for a war are you?, where?, your place?.

    Ok know it all when will USrael and Iran kiss and make up?.

    War can be seconds away then abandoned for various reasons, but why need war, nobody really wants war except evil pigs, mankind needs to learn to live in peace.

    But at the same time bullies cannot be allowed bully, and Iran doesn't seem interested in being told what it can or can't do.

    I hate nuclear everything, be it fuel or bombs, it's technology that should never have come about, I'd like to see it all vanish, but will it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭Jeboa Safari


    I hate nuclear everything, be it fuel or bombs, it's technology that should never have come about, I'd like to see it all vanish, but will it?

    Why do you hate nuclear everything? Good source of energy, and nuclear weapons have probably prevented another major war between the world powers occuring since the end of ww2


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    Why do you hate nuclear everything? Good source of energy, and nuclear weapons have probably prevented another major war between the world powers occuring since the end of ww2

    Let me see??

    Sellafield, Chernobyl and things like this!

    chernobyl4.jpg

    chernobyl_hydroceph.jpg

    388_400x300.jpg

    http://therearenosunglasses.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/charonboat_dot_com_hiroshima_victim.jpg

    Nagasaki-verbrannter-bub.jpg

    See where I'm coming from?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭Jeboa Safari


    Nuclear weapons haven't been used since the first ones were dropped, and MAD means they hopefully won't ever be again, aswell as ruling out large scale wars like ww1 and ww2.
    And nuclear power is alot safer today than in the past


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    Nuclear weapons haven't been used since the first ones were dropped, and MAD means they hopefully won't ever be again, aswell as ruling out large scale wars like ww1 and ww2.
    And nuclear power is alot safer today than in the past

    Ok, would you oppose if they decided to build a nuclear reactor in your area?

    And nuclear weapons haven't been used in war since Japan, but ever hear of Islanders being kicked off their little Island and moved to facilitate testing?.

    Hopefully.......Your hopeful they won't, so why are they being updated constantly?

    Nuclear is wrong, cars are safer today than ever, mine has 6 airbags but a truck smashing into me in my safe car ain't gonna make me feel secure.

    EDIT:

    700px-Worldwide_nuclear_testing.svg.png


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    seawolf145 wrote: »
    Why wasnt it on the news in Norway then?

    EDIT: sorry said he heard it on the radio, but longwave radio and internet radio exist

    Maybe the fella in Norway got it from the internet, possibly???

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/report-u-s-israeli-warships-cross-suez-canal-toward-red-sea-1.297068

    From post 7 by digme:

    http://beforeitsnews.com/news/82/992...ront_Iran.html

    http://lazerbrody.typepad.com/lazer_...war-alert.html

    http://www.debka.com/article/8868/

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/iran-on-...zerbaijan.html

    In a rare move, Iran has declared a state of war on its northwestern border, debkafile's military and Iranian sources report. Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps men and equipment units are being massed in the Caspian Sea region against what Tehran claims are US and Israeli forces concentrated on army and air bases in Azerbaijan ready to strike Iran's nuclear facilities.
    http://www.virtualjerusalem.com/news.php?Itemid=3191

    Israel preparing for prolonged ME war
    http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id...onid=351020202

    Report: IAF aircraft land at Saudi base


    Islam Times says Israeli jets unloaded military equipment in Islamic country ahead of possible Iran strike
    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...909732,00.html

    EDIT:
    Seem's seawolf deleted his post and left, ahh comeback........you'd like it here.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭Jeboa Safari


    uprising2 wrote: »
    Ok, would you oppose if they decided to build a nuclear reactor in your area?

    And nuclear weapons haven't been used in war since Japan, but ever hear of Islanders being kicked off their little Island and moved to facilitate testing?.

    Hopefully.......Your hopeful they won't, so why are they being updated constantly?

    Nuclear is wrong, cars are safer today than ever, mine has 6 airbags but a truck smashing into me in my safe car ain't gonna make me feel secure.

    EDIT:

    700px-Worldwide_nuclear_testing.svg.png

    I would prefer if they didn't build one in my area like any kind of large power station, but I wouldn't oppose it.

    And yes I'm hopeful they won't be used again, because obviously you can't say anything with certainty, but I'd think its reasonable to assume they won't be used again when they'd wipe out both sides in a conflict. And didn't know about the islanders being moved off their islands but the fact remains nuclear weapons haven't been used in warfare since ww2.

    Just being completely against everything nuclear strikes me as backwards to be honest.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    Yep, there were many Tropical Island paradises Nuked into oblivion, whats interestin tho is the resiliance of life on those Islands, most have flourished in the last 20 years.

    but thats gettin sidetracked.


    Almost everything at this stage seems to point at an attempted repeat of the Media whitewash that led up to the Iraq invasion, however this time somne Nations are chosing to do more than just idly watch, a few are activley engaging with Iran to dispel the lies that are being spread by Faux News and others.

    ther is no doubt that they have been building up to an invasion, the question is whether or not they are MENTAL enough to go through with it.

    now Past Performance does not nescessarily indicate future trends, But,

    This is America and Israel we're talkin about, the odds of them NOT attackin are fair slack.

    Hte odds of them gettin their asses handed to them in a protracted Ground war are quite high too tho.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭Jeboa Safari


    Yep, there were many Tropical Island paradises Nuked into oblivion, whats interestin tho is the resiliance of life on those Islands, most have flourished in the last 20 years.

    but thats gettin sidetracked.


    Almost everything at this stage seems to point at an attempted repeat of the Media whitewash that led up to the Iraq invasion, however this time somne Nations are chosing to do more than just idly watch, a few are activley engaging with Iran to dispel the lies that are being spread by Faux News and others.

    ther is no doubt that they have been building up to an invasion, the question is whether or not they are MENTAL enough to go through with it.

    now Past Performance does not nescessarily indicate future trends, But,

    This is America and Israel we're talkin about, the odds of them NOT attackin are fair slack.

    Hte odds of them gettin their asses handed to them in a protracted Ground war are quite high too tho.

    This is the main reason why I think they won't invade, they would suffer massive casualties, and are already fairly stretched as well as having massive debt


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    This is the main reason why I think they won't invade, they would suffer massive casualties, and are already fairly stretched as well as having massive debt

    And thats why I'm saying nuking them is the only option, if any, it's a build up, and both sides of the conflict DON'T have nukes, USreal has plenty, Iran none, either way, an attack on a uranium enrichment plant, leaves a lot of nasty NUCLEAR CRAP floating about even done with bunkerbusters, land contaminated for God knows how long.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    Whoever Pushes the Nuclear button is staring down the barrel of obliteration, if Israel do it they will be destroyed, at the moment Islam is divided into factions of Sunni and Shiite and wahabi etc, a nuclear strike on an Islamic state would be the catalyst for them to end their bickering and focus Wholeheartedly on the destruction of their common foe.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭Jeboa Safari


    uprising2 wrote: »
    And thats why I'm saying nuking them is the only option, if any, it's a build up, and both sides of the conflict DON'T have nukes, USreal has plenty, Iran none, either way, an attack on a uranium enrichment plant, leaves a lot of nasty NUCLEAR CRAP floating about even done with bunkerbusters, land contaminated for God knows how long.

    I don't think either nation is stupid enough to use nukes


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    Whoever Pushes the Nuclear button is staring down the barrel of obliteration, if Israel do it they will be destroyed, at the moment Islam is divided into factions of Sunni and Shiite and wahabi etc, a nuclear strike on an Islamic state would be the catalyst for them to end their bickering and focus Wholeheartedly on the destruction of their common foe.


    Very true, they have factions that hate each other at the moment, but core Muslim beliefs state a muslim must help a muslim from a non muslim.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭digme


    Iran's light water nuclear power plant at Bushehr is preparing to go "live" - again.
    Iranian and Russian nuclear scientists and officials have announced Bushehr's reactor will soon be receiving its first shipment of nuclear fuel 36 years after construction first began on the project.
    This claim may be quietly fueling speculation that a military strike on Iran by Israel - or the United States - may be imminent.


    They are having the inauguration in late September and the fuel will arrive from Russia shortly thereafter


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭digme


    Iran is to stop all trade and oil exports in dollars and euros in retaliation against Western sanctions over its nuclear programme, a top official was quoted as saying Tuesday.
    "We are going to remove dollar and euro from our foreign currency basket and replace them with (Iranian) rial and all other currencies of the countries which accept to cooperate with us," leading economic daily Doniye e-Ektesad quoted First Vice President Mohammad Reza Rahimi as saying.

    story


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    Well thats that then, Silly buggers, Just askin to be 'Liberated' BYfrom an opressive regieme.

    It all boils down to the fact that America cant just Print Rial or RMB willnilly, they have to produce something else to sell, so thats them Skrewed then


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