Isreal and American forces ready to attack Iran within days

Jeboa Safari

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Conscription doesn't change the fact that they were trained, armed and paid - Professional soliders.

They had the option of being conscientious objectors.

Apparently, the only ones doing the killing were pschyopaths.

http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/home/Frontpage/2008/01/02/02073.html

Have to ask you, do you honestly believe that allied soldier should have said no, and not fought for their countries during world war 2?
And like I said earlier many soldiers were conscripted, don't understand why that means they should more deserve to die than everybody else

digme

uprising2 wrote: »

US attacks Iran, within 22 days, good man Digme.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055971258

not bad huh? I have a service also you can pay by paypal lads, i'm 1 for 1 now like

imme

within days eh?

Clawdeeus

uprising2 wrote: »

US attacks Iran, within 22 days, good man Digme.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055971258

Ill take that bet...

vampire of kilmainham

I WISH SOMBODY WOULD JUST PRESS THE BUTTON AND DESTROY THE WORLD IT'S GONE CRAP ANYWAY EVIL EVERYWHERE:eek::eek::eek:

robtri

seems Iran are pushing other nations buttons as well

Iran accused of aiding Afghan insurgents

http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0726/wikileaks.html

uprising2

robtri wrote: »

seems Iran are pushing other nations buttons as well

Iran accused of aiding Afghan insurgents

http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0726/wikileaks.html

Ok lets take the first line:

Leaked US military documents claim Iran is waging a covert campaign against US-led forces in Afghanistan by providing money, arms and training."

So these leaked documents (US MILITARY) say Iran is aiding and abetting insurgent's, they also told us and you believed them about Iraq's stockpiles of WMD, MUSHROOM CLOUDS, and various other slants of bullsh1t throughout modern history.


If your going to State that Iran are "pushing other buttons" maybe get some hard evidence that you so often demand from others, we're all pushing buttons, I'm pushing some with letters on them at the moment.

Then we have this revelation from the report:

Reports from Afghan spies and paid informants

Paid informants?, we all gotta make a few bob, pay me enough and I'll tell you whatever you want to hear, but the sad fact is these paid informants probably get enough to scrape a living and buy some food for a week or so, I could walk along the liffey with a wad of fivers and compile a heap load of intelligence about anything you want using similar methods.

Then I guess you didn't read too far down the article, such as this bit:

These 'threat reports' cannot be corroborated, the Guardian newspaper stressed in a report summarising the Iran findings

Definately didn't make it this far, it was all the way at the end:

Tehran, which initially supported the US drive to unseat Afghanistan's Taliban regime, denies it is working against President Hamid Karzai's Western-backed government.

Which may or may not be true, but even if Iran is helping insurgents/freedom fighters SO WHAT?, how many "allies"(foreign non american) troops are in Afghanistan and Iraq, aiding and abetting the slaughter of civilians, family members and friends of people who were just struggling to get along in life till uncle sam came to rescue them by blowing Fukk outta their loved one's are now terrorists because when someone comes to save you by bombing you, you'll very quickly realise who's the biggest threat.

Sparticle

uprising2 wrote: »

Ok lets take the first line:


So these leaked documents (US MILITARY) say Iran is aiding and abetting insurgent's, they also told us and you believed them about Iraq's stockpiles of WMD, MUSHROOM CLOUDS, and various other slants of bullsh1t throughout modern history.


If your going to State that Iran are "pushing other buttons" maybe get some hard evidence that you so often demand from others, we're all pushing buttons, I'm pushing some with letters on them at the moment.

Why don't you show the same scrutiny to evidence that supports your viewpoint?

Torakx

And it was an RTE link....If i wanted lies id go to CNN or something lol.
Post youtube please.

amacachi

So when's this happening?

WakeUp

amacachi wrote: »

So when's this happening?

I don’t know the exact date this will all kick off but imo the wheels are in motion. The republicans in the US House of Representatives, (house below the Senate) have introduced a new resolution, H.Res 1553 which states that “Congress supports Israel’s use of all means necessary against Iran…including the use of military force’…..

The bill must also be passed by the Senate and further agreed by the president before becoming law (unless both the House and Senate re-pass the legislation with a two-thirds majority in each chamber.) Apparently 1/3 of republicans in the HOR have signed up to the bill already.

It states…

"That the House of Representatives --
(1) condemns the Government of the Islamic Republic of Iran for its threats of 'annihilating' the United States and the State of Israel . …
(2) supports using all means of persuading the Government of Iran to stop building and acquiring nuclear weapons;
(3) reaffirms the United States bond with Israel and . . . expresses support for Israel's right to use all means necessary to confront and eliminate nuclear threats posed by Iran, defend Israeli sovereignty, and protect the lives and safety of the Israeli people, including the use of military force if no other peaceful solution can be found within a reasonable time." - link

When will they attack? That depends on your definition of “reasonable time” because the way things are going it does not look like the Iranians are going to back down.

-Global Research

robtri

uprising2 wrote: »

Ok lets take the first line:


So these leaked documents (US MILITARY) say Iran is aiding and abetting insurgent's, they also told us and you believed them about Iraq's stockpiles of WMD, MUSHROOM CLOUDS, and various other slants of bullsh1t throughout modern history.


If your going to State that Iran are "pushing other buttons" maybe get some hard evidence that you so often demand from others, we're all pushing buttons, I'm pushing some with letters on them at the moment.

Then we have this revelation from the report:


Paid informants?, we all gotta make a few bob, pay me enough and I'll tell you whatever you want to hear, but the sad fact is these paid informants probably get enough to scrape a living and buy some food for a week or so, I could walk along the liffey with a wad of fivers and compile a heap load of intelligence about anything you want using similar methods.

Then I guess you didn't read too far down the article, such as this bit:


Definately didn't make it this far, it was all the way at the end:


Which may or may not be true, but even if Iran is helping insurgents/freedom fighters SO WHAT?, how many "allies"(foreign non american) troops are in Afghanistan and Iraq, aiding and abetting the slaughter of civilians, family members and friends of people who were just struggling to get along in life till uncle sam came to rescue them by blowing Fukk outta their loved one's are now terrorists because when someone comes to save you by bombing you, you'll very quickly realise who's the biggest threat.

ohhh right let me get this right, when u have or thank a post with leaked info from a military insider that agrees with your opinion its ok.. but when it doesnt agree with u its wrong...

LMAO - grow up

uprising2

robtri wrote: »

ohhh right let me get this right, when u have or thank a post with leaked info from a military insider that agrees with your opinion its ok.. but when it doesnt agree with u its wrong...

LMAO - grow up

Originally Posted by robtri
seems Iran are pushing other nations buttons as well

Iran accused of aiding Afghan insurgents

http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0726/wikileaks.html

No but you said Iran are pushing other buttons, then link to this:

Pakistan accused of aiding Afghan insurgents

Monday, 26 July 2010 22:19
Pakistan was actively collaborating with the Taliban in Afghanistan while accepting US aid, according to claims contained in leaked US military reports.
The revelations released by the online organisation WikiLeaks emerged as Admiral Mike Mullen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, warned of greater NATO casualties in Afghanistan as violence mounts over the summer.
Contained in more than 90,000 classified documents, the Wikileaks disclosures could fuel growing doubts about the US war strategy at a time when the military death toll is soaring.
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The White House condemned the leak, saying it could threaten national security and endanger American lives.
Pakistan said leaking unprocessed reports from the battlefield was irresponsible.
The founder of Wikileaks, a whistle-blowing website, said that the documents contained evidence of possible war crimes that should be urgently investigated.
'It is up to a court to decide, clearly, whether something is in the end is a crime,' Julian Assange told a London news conference.
'That said, prima facie, there does appear to be evidence of war crimes in this material.'
The documents said representatives from Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence met directly with the Taliban in secret strategy sessions to organise militant networks fighting US soldiers.
They also spoke about civilian casualties caused by foreign forces while hunting down militants and efforts on some occasions to cover them up.
The documents also carry allegations that Iran is providing money and arms to Taliban.

The Afghan government refused to react specifically to the document leak, but said it had spoken in private and public meetings with its Western allies about the deaths and the role of ISI in destabilising Afghanistan.
The US has repeatedly urged Pakistan to hunt down militant groups, including some believed to have been nurtured by the ISI as strategic assets in Afghanistan and against arch rival India.
Islamabad says it is doing all it can to fight the militancy, adding that it was a victim of terrorism itself.
Under the heading 'Afghan War Diary', the 91,000 documents collected from across the US military in Afghanistan cover the war from 2004 to 2010, WikiLeaks said in a summary.

I failed to find the word Iran in there

Mahatma coat

OK I think this 'Proves' the OP's assertions.

Heres Chief Admiral Mike Mullen admitting that they have been

"Ready to attack Iran within Days"

for quite some time now


So there ya have it

http://www.news.com.au/world/we-have-iran-attack-plan-admits-us-military-chief-admiral-mike-mullen/story-e6frfkyi-1225899784072

robtri

Mahatma coat wrote: »

OK I think this 'Proves' the OP's assertions.

Heres Chief Admiral Mike Mullen admitting that they have been

"Ready to attack Iran within Days"

for quite some time now


So there ya have it

http://www.news.com.au/world/we-have-iran-attack-plan-admits-us-military-chief-admiral-mike-mullen/story-e6frfkyi-1225899784072

actually the story says they have a plan.... not that they are ready to go...

now i am sure they have a plan to attack every nation they see as an enemy and probably some they see as allies at the moment, thats what some people get paid for making up plans...

having a plan and being ready are different imho

IrelandSpirit

Yeah, it all depends on the nature of the planned attack. IMHO they could have an ICBM ready to launch in minutes, not days

Andypando

In my reading of things as to the next war, and I do believe there will be a war. I was trying to put a date to the timing of this war.
If I look to Israel and its wars I find there is always the use of biblical dates and wording in their offensive campaigns.
I have read recently as to the new moon about the 10th is of religious interest to the Israelis, and Ramadan is nearly upon the Muslim world.


I used to read this guy on Smoking Mirrors, but I found some of his writing a bit above my head at some times so I stopped reading a while ago. I came across him again to-day and this is some of what he has in another blog of his.



Dog Poet Transmitting…….





War is looming and might be only one week away. I say this to put it in perspective. It stands to reason that it will surely happen before the November elections, for a variety of reasons. We know its coming because the chief drumbeaters are lunatics, drunk on megalomania and other hormonally secreted drugs.





We see the image of Israel attacking Iran but I do not think we clearly see the implications of it and how it will change our lives in profound ways. The Straits of Hormuz will be shut down and the oil companies will make a large fortune from skyrocketing prices. It goes without saying that Israel will probably attack Lebanon and Syria at the same time. I get the oddest feeling that Russia, China, Turkey and Iran have been talking on the back porch. There are all kinds of interplay going on that we are not privy to. Georgia is going to get crushed if she makes the same stupid mistake again. I realize it is at the aggressor’s behest to close the tunnels.





I get the distinct feeling that if Israel could take any one thing back it would be this ruinous assault on Iran. As you can see, I am discussing it as a fait accompli but I realize nothing is certain. Like the rest of you I have a sort of world view in my head that has been formed from news reports, theories and whatever comes before my eyes. This world view is interesting because it’s not real. It’s projection. This is true for nearly all of us. I have begun to see very clearly that I have this construct in my head about how and sometimes, when; this or that is going to go down. But it’s not real. I simply do not know and I’m in the midst of clearing all of it out of my head because I am misinforming myself. I’m surprised I didn’t see it before, this big picture, like a jigsaw puzzle, imperfectly put together.





I’m noticing things inside and outside of me that I haven’t noticed before and which make up the consistency and content of my days. Digressing.





Well, that said, let me go back to what I was saying (grin). An attack on Iran will nearly immediately become something larger than we generally imagine. All sorts of predisposed positions will come about. There will be a fury and uproar around the world as Israel, in defiance of the needs of everyone around them across the globe, reduces the world to an angst-ridden state of need and in some cases, emergency. The interruption in the flow of oil will hit on all sorts of levels besides transportation and manufacturing. In the meantime, China and Russia have huge investments in Iran so you would think it logical that they have armed Iran in certain ways that may not be a matter of public discussion.

Andypando

From Global Security.



What is the meaning of the phrase "Cast Lead"


Hanukkah, the Feast of Dedication or the Festival of Lights is a Jewish festival celebrated for eight days in the Hebrew month of Kislev, which usually occurs in mid to late December. In 2008 [Jewish year 5769] Hanukkah began at sundown on Sunday December 21, and ended Monday December 29. On Saturday 27 December 2008 Israel launched airstrikes on Hamas compounds in the Gaza Strip.
Hanukkah recalls the struggle for religious freedom and commemorates the victory of the Jews over the Hellenistic Syrians in year 165 B.C.E. In the year 167 B.C.E the Greek king, Antiochus Epiphanes, began a campaign to force the Jews under his rule to formally adopt Greek practices. As early as 199 B.C.E., Greek rulers had issued anti-Jewish decrees. Sabbath observance, the study of Torah, and male circumcisions were forbidden. In addition, Greek gods and other symbols of Greek culture were put inside the Holy Temple, desecrating the center of Jewish ritual life in Jerusalem.


From Revolt of The Plebs, by Keith Johnson.


I’ll paraphrase an assessment given by a qualified Geopolitical Security analyst, W. Joseph Stroupe, who basically stated that whenever the U.S. launches air strikes against an enemy with significant and deadly air defenses, they do so under the dark cover of an astronomical new moon in order to provide its pilots with every advantage and protection. Iran is such an enemy. Iraq, in 1991, was also such an enemy. U.S. air strikes began at 3:00am local time on January 17, 1991—the day of the astronomical new (darkened) moon. While the US did begin its air strikes against Iraq in 2003 on the night of a full moon (March 18, 2003), that was due to the fact that it had received credible intelligence as to Saddam Hussein’s location, and it attempted to take him out, thus starting operations earlier than planned. Additionally, Iraq of 2003 possessed only a small fraction of the air defense capabilities it had in 1991, and thus posed little real threat to US air forces.
The month of August is also host to Ramadan, the holiest month in the Islamic calendar. August 10th is the anniversary of Laylat al-Qadr, translated as the “Night of Power.” It is the anniversary of the night Muslims believe the first verses of the Quran were revealed to the Islamic prophet Muhammad. It is a time when Muslims fast, pray and remember those less fortunate than themselves. They also take time to consider their neighbors and relations and pray that they be shown mercy and forgiven for their misdeeds. Ali Zayn al-Abidin, great grandson of the Prophet, says in a supplication for Ramadan:

WakeUp

Ex-CIA Operatives have sent a memo to Obama warning him that Israel might strike Iran sometime this month.

VIPS or Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity issued the memo on Tuesday. Some of the authors of the memo are W. Patrick Lang , Larry Johnson and Ray Mcgovern among others. It is only the second time they have sent a memo to the Whitehouse urging caution & restraint.

They issued their first memorandum to a president on the afternoon of February 5th, 2003, the now infamous date in history when Colin Powel stood in-front of the world and lied through his teeth.

These paragraphs are taken from the memo you can read the full transcript by clicking on the link.

"We write to alert you to the likelihood that Israel will attack Iran as early as this month. This would likely lead to a wider war.

Israel’s leaders would calculate that once the battle is joined, it will be politically untenable for you to give anything less than unstinting support to Israel, no matter how the war started, and that U.S. troops and weaponry would flow freely. Wider war could eventually result in destruction of the state of Israel."

“We VIPS have found ourselves in this position before. We prepared our first Memorandum for the President on the afternoon of February 5, 2003 after Colin Powell’s speech at the UN.

We had been watching how our profession was being corrupted into serving up faux intelligence that was later criticized (correctly) as “uncorroborated, contradicted, and nonexistent” —As Powell spoke, we decided collectively that the responsible thing to do was to try to warn the President before he acted on misguided advice to attack Iraq. Unlike Powell, we did not claim that our analysis was “irrefutable and undeniable.” We did conclude with this warning:

“After watching Secretary Powell today, we are convinced that you would be well served if you widened the discussion … beyond the circle of those advisers clearly bent on a war for which we see no compelling reason and from which we believe the unintended consequences are likely to be catastrophic"-link

Andypando

From an Iranian news source within Iran.

August 05, 2010 (Hamsayeh.Net) - Cuba’s former President and Revolutionary Leader, Fidel Castro, will address the country’s parliament this coming Saturday as a global awareness campaign with respect to possible US-Israeli military strikes against Iran.
The revolutionary leader of Cuba warns that a war imposed upon Iran will quickly engulf the rest of humanity which could lead to the use of nuclear bombs. According to Fidel Castro another war in the Persian Gulf would be virtually inevitable should the US in compliance with Israel try to inspect Iranian ships on international waters.
Fidel Castro will deliver a speech to Cuban diplomats, economists and intellectuals during the next parliamentary session. The revolutionary leader of Cuba is amongst a growing number of world leaders warning of US imperialist designs against the rest of the world. The US has been keeping aggressive postures toward Cuba itself since the 1959 victory of Cuban Revolution and ouster of former dictatorial regime.
At this moment the United States is sinking deeper into an unprecedented economic crisis with the potential to become the closing chapter for US capitalism altogether.
At the root of it is the fact that US has been dumping trillions of unsupported dollars into global economy for the past several decades. With helps coming from Israel, in order to maintain dollar’s status as the main global currency, Washington must constantly convince other global players like China, Russia, Brazil, India and the European Union that it continues to wield power over global energy trades by staging military show offs.
Analysts believe the main objective of US is to deprive China from directly accessing its own growing mid to long term energy requirements. That explains increasing military show offs close to Chinese coast against Korea and in places like Afghanistan, Central Asia, Venezuela, Iran and Iraq.

Andypando

I read this on a site.. aangirfan. The reason it interested me was I remember reading during the Gaza Flotillas crisis of there being a great deal of dissent within the military and the government within Turkey.
I remember thinking of the indignation of the PM Erdogan and the way it fizzled out, just as the hic-cup with Peres on another occasion.
It is an awful pity our own government are so quiet on this occasion, not to forget how our own, and other governments within the EU just say nothing as we rush headlong to this coming madness.


Before any attack on Iran, there may be a military coup in Turkey?

Turkey's government is friendly with Iran and has fallen out with Israel.

On 1 August 2010, Turkey's Supreme Military Council held the second day of its annual meeting to discuss promotions and dismissals of officers in the armed forces.

And, this Turkish Military Council seeks the promotion of coup suspects

The military wants to promote 11 generals who have been charged with plotting to bring down the government.

Reportedly, Turkish prime minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has called for a cancellation of the promotions for the 11 generals.

But he lacks the power to cancel appointments wanted by the generals.

Abdullah Gul, the president, does have that power because Military Council decisions become law only after being signed by the president.

In the past, no president has dared veto the military’s plans.

Reportedly, Gul has asked the military not to go ahead with the promotions, hinting that he would not sign the Yas documents if the 11 generals were promoted.

A Turkish court recently issued arrest warrants for the 11 generals and 91 other serving and retired officers, with dozens of generals among them.

They are to stand trial in December 2010 for their suspected participation in a plan, code-named Sledgehammer.

Allegedly, Sledgehammer was hatched in 2003 and called for a coup against the government of Mr Erdogan.

According to the prosecution, the plotters planned to bomb a mosque in Istanbul and to provoke tensions with Greece in an effort to cause unrest and prepare the ground for a military coup.

Only one of the 102 suspects has been arrested so far. The others have appealed against their arrest warrants.

Some officers, including retired high-ranking generals, are standing trial as suspected members of Ergenekon, a fascist group with links to the CIA and Mossad.

Constitutional amendments designed to curb the generals’ political influence will be put to a referendum in September 2010.

The government is struggling to deal with a fresh wave of attacks by Kurdish rebels, who are said to be backed by Ergenekon, the CIA and Mossad.

Joshua Jones

David Cameron sows a seed.

"like the Middle East peace process, like the fact that Iran has got a nuclear weapon".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-10886435

digme

Joshua Jones wrote: »

David Cameron sows a seed.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-10886435

Everyone knows he's in bed with the Israelis.

Andypando

A piece from richardccook.com.

Not all nations have been equal participants in the forging of the modern world that is now in crisis. The best at it have been the British and Americans, whose hegemony was established through several centuries of ruthless empire-building, followed by two world wars during which their Eurasian rivals—mainly Germany, Japan, and the Ottoman Empire—were smashed.
The Anglo-American combination, now with America supplying the muscle, is intertwined with a powerful Zionist element centered in the state of Israel but aligned with dominant domestic influences. What can accurately be called the Anglo-American-Zionist Empire is reaching today for total global domination.
The Asian nations of Japan, India, and even the somewhat restless China, have largely been incorporated into the imperial order. Latin America has long been within the American sphere of influence, and Africa is being re-colonized commercially. The Islamic world has been under imperial attack since Britain and France dismembered the Ottoman Empire after 1918.
Only the enigmatic Russians seem to stand today on the outside looking in, their nation oddly still alive and increasingly powerful after the furious financial assault from the West, leading to the “collapse” of the Soviet Union in the 1990s. This took place when a fall in world oil prices was engineered, causing the Soviet Union to lose access to hard currency.
How have the Anglo-American-Zionists come so far in what is historically such a short period of time? Two features stand out.
The first is state violence: the absolute lack of restraint in the use of weapons of destruction against non-English-speaking peoples, including the ships of war natural to seafarers and genius in the invention and utilization of guns, bombs, airplanes, and missiles. They also pioneered nuclear weapons, which only they have used against a live enemy.
The second is financialization: their ability to generate vast amounts of money through a banking system unrestrained by law, custom, or conscience, one that exercises the power to capitalize phenomenal economic and institutional growth. The basis for this power is a symbiotic relationship between big banking and big government, whereby the former can create money literally out of nothing and charge interest for its use, while loaning the latter sufficient funds to wage its wars and keep the domestic population docile and dependent through spending on social welfare programs.
The impetus for the U.S. government to spend huge amounts of fiat money for financial system bailouts, economic stimuli, etc., skyrocketed after the collapse of the housing bubble in 2007-8. The collapse led to the ongoing worldwide recession which is not and cannot be overcome through conventional means such as Keynesian deficit spending.

uprising2

Israel had a little skirmish on the lebanon border, they havent retaliated?, are they afraid or keeping their resources for something bigger?, Israel will get into a fight that could wipe them out, it's not that big a country and Iran is no muppet, although I don't trust them kunts either, but Israels only option in a war with Iran is a nuclear strike first, then missiles will fly left, right and centre into Israel, Damascus will fall at the hands of Israel, but they will get a bite in the ass they wont see coming.

old_aussie

Lets ask Paul the octopus to predict the start date.

Andypando

In all of this no one seems to realize Israel is the only country threatening and seeking war. Iran like Iraq, and Afghanistan, Pakistan never sought war.If we look to the those places which gave us our civilization and the destruction of those cultures with our western democracy which we try to foist on those people, we should hang our heads in shame.
Israel, and only Israel with the help of their proxy bully America which is in the control of the military industrial bankers are the real and deadly rouges in all this.

A piece by Michel Chossudovsky..

Humanity is at a dangerous crossroads. War preparations to attack Iran are in "an advanced state of readiness". Hi tech weapons systems including nuclear warheads are fully deployed.
This military adventure has been on the Pentagon's drawing board since the mid-1990s. First Iraq, then Iran according to a declassified 1995 US Central Command document.
Escalation is part of the military agenda. While Iran, is the next target together with Syria and Lebanon, this strategic military deployment also threatens North Korea, China and Russia.
Since 2005, the US and its allies, including America's NATO partners and Israel, have been involved in the extensive deployment and stockpiling of advanced weapons systems. The air defense systems of the US, NATO member countries and Israel are fully integrated.
This is a coordinated endeavor of the Pentagon, NATO, Israel's Defense Force (IDF), with the active military involvement of several non-NATO partner countries including the frontline Arab states (members of NATO's Mediterranean Dialogue and the Istanbul Cooperation Initiative), Saudi Arabia, Japan, South Korea, India, Indonesia, Singapore, Australia, among others. (NATO consists of 28 NATO member states Another 21 countries are members of the Euro-Atlantic Partnership Council (EAPC), The Mediterranean Dialogue and the Istanbul Cooperation Initiative include ten Arab countries plus Israel.)
The roles of Egypt, the Gulf states and Saudi Arabia (within the extended military alliance) is of particular relevance. Egypt controls the transit of war ships and oil tankers through the Suez Canal. Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States occupy the South Western coastlines of the Persian Gulf, the Straits of Hormuz and the Gulf of Oman. In early June, "Egypt reportedly allowed one Israeli and eleven U.S. ships to pass through the Suez Canal in ....an apparent signal to Iran. ... On June 12, regional press outlets reported that the Saudis had granted Israel the right to fly over its airspace..." (Muriel Mirak Weissbach, Israel’s Insane War on Iran Must Be Prevented., Global Research, July 31, 2010)
In post 9/11 military doctrine, this massive deployment of military hardware has been defined as part of the so-called "Global War on Terrorism", targeting "non-State" terrorist organizations including al Qaeda and so-called "State sponsors of terrorism",. including Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Sudan.
The setting up of new US military bases, the stockpiling of advanced weapons systems including tactical nuclear weapons, etc. were implemented as part of the pre-emptive defensive military doctrine under the umbrella of the "Global War on Terrorism".
War and the Economic Crisis
The broader implications of a US-NATO Israel attack on Iran are far-reaching. The war and the economic crisis are intimately related. The war economy is financed by Wall Street, which stands as the creditor of the US administration. The US weapons producers are the recipients of the US Department of Defense multibillion dollar procurement contracts for advanced weapons systems. In turn, "the battle for oil" in the Middle East and Central Asia directly serves the interests of the Anglo-American oil giants.
The US and its allies are "beating the drums of war" at the height of a Worldwide economic depression, not to mention the most serious environmental catastrophe in World history. In a bitter twist, one of the major players (BP) on the Middle East Central Asia geopolitical chessboard, formerly known as the Anglo-Persian Oil Company, is the instigator of the ecological disaster in the Gulf of Mexico.

uprising2

old_aussie wrote: »

Lets ask Paul the octopus to predict the start date.

Yes let's, anybody who thinks it's not coming is deluded.
This war is on the cards a long time, it will happen, it's a standoff at the moment, simply because when Iran became a target the US thought they will be done with Iraq and Afghanistan by now, didn't quite turn out that way did it?.

WHEN it does kick off which may be very soon, it will begin with a mushroom cloud in Iran, the japs may have surrendered but I don't think Iran will so easily, Israel may bite off its own nose to spite it's face.

America are not the fighting force they'd like us all to believe, they have the most advanced weapons of mass destruction they condemn so often, but man for man the fukking IRA would destroy them, the taliban an evil pack of kunts have their backs against the wall, every US general knows they cannot conquer Afghanistan, they no longer go on fighting missions in Iraq, because without the continual use of airpower they aren't worth a sh1t.

They only have one option against Iran, weapons of mass destruction, then when Hezzbollah, Syria get involved Israel could simply cease to exist, this war will be like no other before, Tehran have had a long time to prepare for this, sleeping martyrs spread here and there, plenty of money to aquire missiles, enough pointing at Israel from 1000's of positions that will all fly at the same time, then some more for later, there will only be losers in this war, innocent civilians.

But it is coming, I'm no prophet to give a date and time, but had things worked out in Iraq and Afghanistan like they were supposed to the Iran war would have already have started.

Make no mistake, when it does start, its WW3, not Iraq or Afghanistan, Balkans, some people are not afraid to fight and the harder you hit them you just make them more angry, hit them harder and they simply get more angry, also the US is cutting back on the amount of weapons of mass destruction is used on so many civilians in the past few years.


Fidel Castro warns of nuclear war in rare speech

In an ideal world these things would never be, I can't see why man must destroy man and the planet, in my heart I have always felt this world is wrong, I never understood why people must inflict such sh1te on each other, but they do, and now the kunts are really getting to me, I believe in an eye for an eye, and if somebody takes my eye, I will take his, but I just wish it wasn't like that.

This world where we all live, the children we nurture, the beautiful gift of life we have can all be destroyed because of a few lunatics.

Religion has it's part to play, the Jews God is better than the Muslim God, the Christian God is better than both, yet can these idiots not see they are the same God, he was just divided by evil men, who then manipulate good men into doing bad things against fellow human beings, I don't believe there is a soldier at war now who would not prefer to be with his family playing with his children.

Divide and conquer, certainly works, even here, people I may argue with about this belief or that, could be my best friend (in real life), and I may think I like someone here coz he shares my beliefs here, but in real life I may think he's an assshole.

No-win situation

Conventional war with Iran pointless

When Admiral Mike Mullen, chairperson of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff and the highest-ranking American officer, was asked recently on NBC's Meet the Press whether the United States has a military plan for an attack on Iran, he replied simply, "We do."

"After a long debate, the highest levels of the military could not forecast a way in which things would end favourably for the United States," he said. The Pentagon's planners have war-gamed an attack on Iran several times in the past five years, and they just can't make it come out as a U.S. victory.
http://www.lfpress.com/comment/2010/08/06/14947021.html

enfant terrible

uprising2 wrote: »

WHEN it does kick off which may be very soon, it will begin with a mushroom cloud in Iran,

What's the latest you see this nuclear attack happening, i'll post back to say you were wrong.

uprising2

enfant terrible wrote: »

What's the latest you see this nuclear attack happening, i'll post back to say you were wrong.

Erm the latest, 2569, see you then!

EDIT:
Actually trying to be a smartasss with me need's a little smartasss attitude back, now read....

Originally Posted by uprising2
WHEN it does kick off which may be very soon, it will begin with a mushroom cloud in Iran,

read it again, take note of the word "May" and it's not the month I'm talking about.

may1    /meɪ/ Show Spelled[mey] Show IPA
–auxiliary verb, present singular 1st person may, 2nd may or ( Archaic ) may·est or mayst, 3rd may; present plural may; past might.
1. (used to express possibility): It may rain.
2. (used to express opportunity or permission): You may enter.
3. (used to express contingency, esp. in clauses indicating condition, concession, purpose, result, etc.): I may be wrong but I think you would be wise to go. Times may change but human nature stays the same.
4. (used to express wish or prayer): May you live to an old age.
5. Archaic . (used to express ability or power.)