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Sky: "Protesters Storm Irish Parliament"

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    #212
    FTA69
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    dsmythy wrote: »
    Who said that because their own reports tend to be utter tripe.

    I'm just off the blower to one of them. There were seven lifted and a number struck with batons etc.


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    #213
    MagicSean
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    FTA69 wrote: »
    They were later forcibly removed by the cops who arrived with the Special Branch and a dog handler in tow, seven Éirigi members were arrested and a number assaulted by cops who drew batons.

    Special branch?


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    #214
    FTA69
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    k_mac wrote: »
    Special branch?

    Yeah. There's photos of them on Indymedia.


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    #215
    MagicSean
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    FTA69 wrote: »
    Yeah. There's photos of them on Indymedia.

    No there is photos of plain clothes gardaí. Special branch doesn't even exist anymore. It was replaced by the SDU. And they don't really care what these people do. The plain clothes gardaí were probably local drugs and crime unit gardaí providing assistance. Typical indymedia self importance to think they even register on the radar of important people.


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    #216
    FTA69
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    k_mac wrote: »
    Special branch doesn't even exist anymore. It was replaced by the SDU.

    Whatever, they are still commonly referred to as "the Branch", I've even heard them refer to themselves as "the Branch."
    And they don't really care what these people do.

    They do usually, considering they are tasked with monitoring "subversives" (as well as other general harrasment). Éirigi members have already had to deal with their carry on in the past. At recent functions and commemorations they've often turned up in force, engaging in their usual harrasment and other carry on.
    The plain clothes gardaí were probably local drugs and crime unit gardaí providing assistance.

    Nope, they were Branchmen. You can usually tell the difference between SDU and CDU immediately.


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    #217
    Denerick
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Denerick


    zenno wrote: »
    well many people including myself want them c*nts out now right now and we don't have the pacience to think of no.1 in singular as that will slow the ejection of these corrupt b*stards from been removed. well you seem to be a pacient person but in all regards to that i am not. we have always let things drift for a while before we act and before you know it 1 year has gone by and those same f ucking corrupt evil s*its are still there. well i can assure you there will be trouble whether you like it or not this coming week. people have just about had enough.

    Come on mate. You're one degree of a lack of self awareness from saying 'dey took our jobs!'


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    #218
    Mute
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    I hear next Tuesday's March is going to be much better attended and even angrier!!!!

    Roll on Tuesday:D


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    #219
    murphaph
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    FTA69 wrote: »
    They were later forcibly removed by the cops who arrived with the Special Branch and a dog handler in tow, seven Éirigi members were arrested and a number assaulted by cops who drew batons.
    Assaulted? You mean "hit"?


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    MagicSean
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    FTA69 wrote: »
    They do usually, considering they are tasked with monitoring "subversives" (as well as other general harrasment). Éirigi members have already had to deal with their carry on in the past. At recent functions and commemorations they've often turned up in force, engaging in their usual harrasment and other carry on.

    So Eirigí are a subversive organisation?

    FTA69 wrote: »
    Nope, they were Branchmen. You can usually tell the difference between SDU and CDU immediately.

    With your psychic powers?


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    #221
    FTA69
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    murphaph wrote: »
    Assaulted? You mean "hit"?

    Same thing.


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    #222
    FTA69
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    So Eirigí are a subversive organisation?

    I wouldn't say so like. They would certainly be a socialist organisation, but at the same time they don't have any connection to armed groups and nor do they advocate armed struggle. The IMC (the joke that it is) include them in their reports, although (almost reluctantly) they also stated they aren't involved in militaristic activities.
    With your psychic powers?

    Generally if cops are paying attention to you because of Republican politics it would stand to reason that they're Branch.


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    #223
    MagicSean
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    FTA69 wrote: »
    I wouldn't say so like. They would certainly be a socialist organisation, but at the same time they don't have any connection to armed groups and nor do they advocate armed struggle. The IMC (the joke that it is) include them in their reports, although (almost reluctantly) they also stated they aren't involved in militaristic activities.

    So basically not worthy of garda surveillence. I would agree.

    FTA69 wrote: »
    Generally if cops are paying attention to you because of Republican politics it would stand to reason that they're Branch.

    Its not the politics they were looking at. It was the four loons on the roof.


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    #224
    FTA69
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    So basically not worthy of garda surveillence. I would agree.

    I'd agree. Perhaps you should contact the Garda and PSNI Special Branch and tell them stop harassing Éirigi activists as it's a waste of police resources and taxpayers money. (Although I've a suspicion that much of their acting the arsehole and assorted other carry on is due to a desire to accumulate overtime.)
    Its not the politics they were looking at. It was the four loons on the roof.

    So they send in the Branch over four people on a roof? :rolleyes: And when Éirigi decide to have a commemoration for James Connolly there's four car loads of them out with surveillance equipment?

    Yeah. Nothing to do with the politics at all.


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    #225
    OhNoYouDidn't
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    murphaph wrote: »
    Assaulted? You mean "hit"?

    A neighbour of mine is in A&E after getting kicked and punched by a couple of cops. They seem to have gone in way OTT today....


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    #226
    DeVore
    Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    These would be the same bare faced lying fnckwits who claimed they were "baton charged while peacefully protesting"...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2lEez-U4RY


    Watch at 2.24 when the main instigator waves on a group of black hoodies to come with him and then roll it from there and please tell me where the Gardai baton charged anyone?

    They are liars. They tell such distortions of the truth that they are exactly the same as the liars inside the dail.

    They are using this situation and your righteous anger to try to get their own agenda through.


    In short they are lying to get their agenda through. Sound like anyone we know?

    DeV.


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    #227
    Mr. SS
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    Mute wrote: »
    I hear next Tuesday's March is going to be much better attended and even angrier!!!!

    Roll on Tuesday:D
    I hope the Gardaí make "may day" mince meat out of the protesters.


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    #228
    OhNoYouDidn't
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    DeVore wrote: »
    These would be the same bare faced lying fnckwits who claimed they were "baton charged while peacefully protesting"...

    No they aren't as it happens, but carry on. I'm enjoying your thread where you passionately call for us to bend over and grease up like good little consumers.


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    #229
    OhNoYouDidn't
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    Mr. SS wrote: »
    I hope the Gardaí make "may day" mince meat out of the protesters.

    Why?


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    #230
    Scofflaw
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    OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »
    Why?

    Perhaps because it would be a pleasure to see it happen to at least someone who wants to use us to get to power while pretending to have our interests at heart.

    regards,
    Scofflaw


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    #231
    OhNoYouDidn't
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    Scofflaw wrote: »
    Perhaps because it would be a pleasure to see it happen to at least someone who wants to use us to get to power while pretending to have our interests at heart.

    regards,
    Scofflaw

    So nothing to do with him being a right wing nutter with SS in his username?

    Well don't you make the fine couple....


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    #232
    FTA69
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    Mr. SS wrote: »
    I hope the Gardaí make "may day" mince meat out of the protesters.

    So you hope they illegally remove their identification badges before illegally using violent excessive force in the name of upholding the law?

    Hilarious. An adequate username if there ever was one.


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    #233
    Iwasfrozen
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    OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »
    No they aren't as it happens, but carry on. I'm enjoying your thread where you passionately call for us to bend over and grease up like good little consumers.
    They were trying to enter the Dáil that is illegal.

    This is a free country and the protesters have the right to protest outside the gates untill they are blue in the face, the Gardai allow that. The Garda however make it very clear that no protest may cross the Dáil gate. No ifs or buts, that is the law.

    These protesters where forcibly breaking the law en masse, the Garda had the right to use their batons. You can twist it all you want but you were in the wrong.


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    #234
    Iwasfrozen
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    FTA69 wrote: »
    So you hope they illegally remove their identification badges before illegally using violent excessive force in the name of upholding the law?
    They where not using excessive force, the use of batons is the first port of call by any police force to calm a violent mob. Just be glad they didn't get into the Dáil because then the riot police would have been called.


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    #235
    Denerick
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    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    They where not using excessive force, the use of batons is the first port of call by any police force to calm a violent mob. Just be glad they didn't get into the Dáil because then the riot police would have been called.

    Thank God, a voice of reason. What do people think would happen when a few bloodthirsty mobsters broke through the Dáil gates? Was Cowen meant to wait behind and invite the lads in? Ask them to throw a few boxes, get it out of their system like? Jesus Christ, protesters have such a hive mentality they lose all sense of reason or proportion.


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    #236
    Turner
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    FTA69 wrote: »
    So you hope they illegally remove their identification badges

    It is not "illegal" for Gardai to remove their district numbers from their shoulders.


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    #237
    M three
    Registered Users Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭M three


    maynooth_rules wrote: »
    This was only done by a few because of the embarrassment caused by Greece taking the piss out of us last week with their chants during the protest. We had ample opportunity to stand up to this joke of a government but we rolled over like little dogs, and instead rang into Joe Duffy and had a bitch on the Frontline

    what were the Greeks chanting regards us? I was away last while so didnt see any footage of their demonstrations


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    #238
    Scofflaw
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    OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »
    So nothing to do with him being a right wing nutter with SS in his username?

    Well don't you make the fine couple....

    I don't know what his reasoning is, but that's part of my reasoning. If you want to have a ruck with the Gardai - and it's very clear from the video that those lads did - then by all means do. Crying about it afterwards, though, is pretty sad.

    If you think you're really hard, you could have a go at the army - and do please get someone not in the line of fire to bring a video recorder.

    regards,
    Scofflaw


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    #239
    FTA69
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    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    They where not using excessive force, the use of batons is the first port of call by any police force to calm a violent mob. Just be glad they didn't get into the Dáil because then the riot police would have been called.

    I'm referring to the infamous incident a few years ago during a "Reclaim the Streets" protest where Guards removed their identity badges and proceeded to viciously beat marchers using excessive force, leading to a dismissal of one cop (although he was later readmitted).

    This was the incident referenced by Mr SS.


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    #240
    Victor
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    DeVore wrote: »
    These would be the same bare faced lying fnckwits who claimed they were "baton charged while peacefully protesting"...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2lEez-U4RY
    Also, at 5:00-5:10, some of the protesters are not only using flag poles, but also batons to attack the gardaí.


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    #241
    Iwasfrozen
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    FTA69 wrote: »
    I'm referring to the infamous incident a few years ago during a "Reclaim the Streets" protest where Guards removed their identity badges and proceeded to viciously beat marchers using excessive force, leading to a dismissal of one cop (although he was later readmitted).

    This was the incident referenced by Mr SS.
    Oh, then nevermind...


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