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How big is the Deepwater Horizon oil spill?

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    #122
    TalkieWalkie
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    phantom_lord wrote: »
    this is completely wrong btw.

    On land the have dug deeper, in Russia I believe, not at sea though.


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    #123
    phantom_lord
    Registered Users Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    TalkieWalkie wrote: »
    On land the have dug deeper, in Russia I believe, not at sea though.

    there's multiple wells off shore that are deeper than this.


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    #124
    fontanalis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭fontanalis


    TalkieWalkie wrote: »
    The spill is 5000 feet deep. When the pressure from the oil subsides, they won't need to pump water in, it will rush in with great force due to the weight of the water.

    They have never drilled so deep before for oil. The concern is that there is magma down there which will turn the water to steam thus expanding it, lifting the sea floor and causing the tsunami.

    It's silly to bitch about weather it will happen or not. It is a possibility.
    Let's not loose sight of the fact that these money hungry greedy f*cking animals are destroying out planet. It's pointless to argue about how much or how fast they are destroying it. It is a concern for us all.

    Would the magma not already be in the oil well in that case/


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    #125
    PirateShampoo
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    TalkieWalkie wrote: »

    They have never drilled so deep before for oil. The concern is that there is magma down there which will turn the water to steam thus expanding it, lifting the sea floor and causing the tsunami.


    Where exactly is this magma?

    If there was magma there then why hasnt it ignited whats down there and exploded the whole well?


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    #126
    phantom_lord
    Registered Users Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    see, this is why you probably shouldn't pay much attention to people who base their knowledge of things "from within" and their "faith".


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    #127
    uprising2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    phantom_lord wrote: »
    see, this is why you probably shouldn't pay much attention to people who base their knowledge of things "from within" and their "faith".

    Don't misquote me, thats the problem, you read something and don't understand it, even my simple reply to studiorat, when he was trying to imply I have a disability for having faith in God.

    I never said my knowledge of things came from within, I said my faith comes from within, my knowledge comes from what I've learned and what I continue to learn.
    I don't have superpowers BTW.


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    #128
    phantom_lord
    Registered Users Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    uprising2 wrote: »
    Don't misquote me, thats the problem, you read something and don't understand it, even my simple reply to studiorat, when he was trying to imply I have a disability for having faith in God.

    I never said my knowledge of things came from within, I said my faith comes from within, my knowledge comes from what I've learned and what I continue to learn.

    oops, looks like i did take your quote out of context.
    uprising2 wrote: »
    I don't have superpowers BTW.

    you're just delusional? got it.


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    #129
    digme
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭digme


    phantom_lord wrote: »
    oops, looks like i did take your quote out of context.



    you're just delusional? got it.
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    #130
    TalkieWalkie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭TalkieWalkie


    phantom_lord wrote: »
    how likely do you think it is that there's magma adjacent to this huge oil and gas deposit?

    So, it's just an oil spill, what gases do you think are being released into the athmosphere ???


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    #131
    phantom_lord
    Registered Users Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    TalkieWalkie wrote: »
    So, it's just an oil spill, what gases do you think are being released into the athmosphere ???

    benzene and all those other associated gases. of course it's ecological disaster, no doubt about that.

    are you giving up on the magma, tsunami, end of the world stuff now?


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    #132
    uprising2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    phantom_lord wrote: »
    oops, looks like i did take your quote out of context.



    you're just delusional? got it.

    I'm delusional?, ok if you say so sir, you still havent moved any further on your wager, the one that you proposed a few posts back.

    How small will this little mishap be?, share your projections, how will they stop the little leak, get a Dutch boy to stick his finger in it, give a rough timeframe till all is well.


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    #133
    espinolman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭espinolman


    Why has the oil leak not been fixed , is that because it is a false flag operation :

    http://www.examiner.com/x-2912-Seattle-Exopolitics-Examiner%7Ey2010m6d13-Evidence-BP-oil-spill-is-disaster-capitalism-by-criminal-elite-to-depopulate-and-stop-ET-disclosure


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    #134
    phantom_lord
    Registered Users Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    uprising2 wrote: »
    I'm delusional?, ok if you say so sir, you still havent moved any further on your wager, the one that you proposed a few posts back.

    How small will this little mishap be?, share your projections, how will they stop the little leak, get a Dutch boy to stick his finger in it, give a rough timeframe till all is well.
    phantom_lord wrote: »
    you seemed to take umbrage at me for not taking this post seriously, how much i this do you reckon is/will become true?

    you never answered my earlier question about that.


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    #135
    TalkieWalkie
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    PirateShampoo wrote: »
    Where exactly is this magma?

    If there was magma there then why hasnt it ignited whats down there and exploded the whole well?

    You think magma has never met oil before, deep down ?
    phantom_lord wrote: »
    see, this is why you probably shouldn't pay much attention to people who base their knowledge of things "from within" and their "faith".

    Asshole.
    phantom_lord wrote: »
    benzene and all those other associated gases. of course it's ecological disaster, no doubt about that.

    are you giving up on the magma, tsunami, end of the world stuff now?

    No, both can co-exist deep down with lack of oxygen and + water, especially in great pressure.


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    #136
    uprising2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    phantom_lord wrote: »
    maybe we should have a bet on how bad this is going to be? let's draw up terms, and the loser can't post in the ct forum anymore?

    YEA STILL WAITING
    uprising2 wrote: »
    Yeah, great idea, you waste your talents here anyway and you look creepy in that pic, the sooner your banished the better AFAIC.

    For starters it's already the worst in history, that milestone has been passed, so it's down to how many times worse it will become.

    Will it be 100X or 1,000,000X or more?, maybe it's better you lay down the terms as your the poker player, for the record I'll say it will still be flowing freely this time next year.

    Maybe its best if you state how "small" it will be, then when that passes you'll be gone forever from here.

    STILL WAITING
    phantom_lord wrote: »
    you seemed to take umbrage at me for not taking this post seriously, how much i this do you reckon is/will become true?

    If that's what you meant by a questin you posted and I didn't answer, the same post where you quoted somebody else, well out of politeness I didn't say "WTF is that rubbish", read it and imagine being on the recieving end of that pile of sh1t that I'm still struggling to decrypt, do I need a special program installed to be able to translate it?, what does "how much i this do you reckon is/will become true?" and then try help the posters understand exactly who its aimed at, because I assumed it directed at garlicbread.

    Ask it again in plain english, directed to me and I'll answer and you answer also and we'll take it from there.

    You do realise as each day passes your plonker status will grow, don't you.
    TalkieWalkie wrote: »
    You think magma has never met oil before, deep down ?



    Asshole.



    No, both can co-exist deep down with lack of oxygen and + water, especially in great pressure.


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    #137
    tommyhaas
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    Tsunami my arse, ffs the only chance of this spill causing the end of the world/tsunami/what ever it is your gona think of next is if the basic laws of physics are completly changed. As far as I know, BP/any other 'global energy giant' are unable to do this. Anyone with who knows anything about drilling/exploration will tell you the same


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    #138
    phantom_lord
    Registered Users Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    phantom_lord wrote: »
    there's multiple wells off shore that are deeper than this.

    oops, i apologise. i'm actually wrong here.


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    #139
    phantom_lord
    Registered Users Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    uprising2 wrote: »
    If that's what you meant by a questin you posted and I didn't answer, the same post where you quoted somebody else, well out of politeness I didn't say "WTF is that rubbish", read it and imagine being on the recieving end of that pile of sh1t that I'm still struggling to decrypt, do I need a special program installed to be able to translate it?, what does "how much i this do you reckon is/will become true?" and then try help the posters understand exactly who its aimed at, because I assumed it directed at garlicbread.

    you were the one that took umbrage at my reply to that post. and this was after the talk about the bet so i thought it was clear what i was talking about there. i wanna bet on the magma/tsunami stuff


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    #140
    humanji
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    Infractions have been handed out. If you can't discuss this like adults then don't post here!


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    #141
    uprising2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    phantom_lord wrote: »
    you were the one that took umbrage at my reply to that post. and this was after the talk about the bet so i thought it was clear what i was talking about there. i wanna bet on the magma/tsunami stuff

    Well I never mentioned magma or tsunami stuff, so no bets here about that, the worse I can come up with is millions upon millions of gallons of crude and all the nasty crap thats part of it getting into the ocean and destroying all life it touches.

    But having said that, we don't know what will happen yet, and its not just an oil spill, well it is an oil spill with lots and lots of pressure behind it, 60 days in and no solution in sight, I'm just relaying the seriousness of it, while you and others treat it as nothing really.


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    #142
    TalkieWalkie
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    phantom_lord wrote: »
    benzene and all those other associated gases. of course it's ecological disaster, no doubt about that.

    are you giving up on the magma, tsunami, end of the world stuff now?

    I never mentioned anything about the end of the world, I said the tsunami/magma situation was simply a possibility.
    TalkieWalkie wrote: »
    You think magma has never met oil before, deep down ?



    Asshole.

    ok, I apologize for that, twas out of order.


    phantom_lord wrote: »
    this is completely wrong btw.

    Really ?
    phantom_lord wrote: »
    oops, i apologise. i'm actually wrong here.

    Oh guess not.

    Talkie 1 - Pokerface 0

    :p


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    #143
    Zombienosh
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0YbVpuDwfQ


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    #144
    phantom_lord
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    AlcoholicA wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0YbVpuDwfQ

    c'mon. that's just some oul one talking through her hat. missing/deleted emails, yeah, sure, love.


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    #145
    digme
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    I've lost track of what your actually trying to discuss?


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    #146
    phantom_lord
    Registered Users Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    digme wrote: »
    I've lost track of what your actually trying to discuss?


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    #147
    macshadow
    Registered Users Posts: 485 ✭✭macshadow


    Some info about a possible tsunami scenario
    http://www.projectavalon.net/lang/en/whats_new.html


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    #148
    digme
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭digme


    phantom_lord wrote: »
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    #149
    uprising2
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    digme wrote: »
    I've lost track of what your actually trying to discuss?

    He's not trying to discuss anything, just blabbebring on about things he knows nothing about, just be greatful your not him, because he plays texas holdem he thinks he's an oil man.

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    #150
    bonkey
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    uprising2 banned for a week.


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    #151
    Myrddin
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    Im mostly a lurker here, but have been following this thread as its interesting & current. Flicking through the news channels last night as sky decided it was more important to cover Danny Boyles new job, and I came across a lad on Fox called Glenn Beck.

    A lot of you will prob know him, maybe you dont - Ive no idea how popular he is/isnt or how he is viewed - maybe he's a known loon, but I had never heard of him until last night. I wasnt sure what I was watching at first, but when he was openly critical of both left and right wing american politics he got my attention. He was basically saying that left wing governments (Obama) & right wing governments (Bush) want the same thing. Left wants world control through the UN, right wants more or less a total US influence.

    Bush proclaimed a "War On Terror" after a catastrophe. He rallied people & support in the days/months after the tragedy, and garnered a lot of support which allowed him to pass various acts/orders which ordinarily would NEVER have been allowed (Patriot Act etc). Boyle said all was well, the people were under the illusion of the new "protection", until Bush hit his second term. People more or less realised they were being intruded on, but the US North & South borders were being openly neglected, people realised the new acts were not about security at all.

    Obama has now declared a "War On Clmate Change". Apparently, Obama is using the current catastrophe to declare a war against an oil based US economy. Beck is saying that although the event does seem a genuine accident, Obamas apparent poor response to it is NOT an accident, nor political inability. What you will notice is more and more Americans getting angry & demanding the President take action. Obama is apparently going to push his "Green" acts through now that the citizens are demanding action. Beck named these acts last night but they have slipped my mind. But he did say that these acts normally would not stand a chance of being passed. Obama wants the US free of its oil dependancy, but apparently no idea how unrealistic this is. Its a personal act, touted as the future.

    This woke me up about politicians using crises events to manipulate people into accepting "action", and how people are so easily blinded by the need to see their leaders doing something.

    Beck went on to describe Obamas new 6 month moratorium on oceanic oil drilling in US waters. Apparently, those rigs are not going to sit around idling, waiting for the moratorium to be lifted. They will be leased to other nations/companies and spend God knows how long drilling elsewhere. This will apparently hit the US hard, jobs/investment wise. I do think their is a conspiracy here, but it is not the North Korean/End of Days type conspiracy. Beck demonstrated with a calender, a group called CAP (Center for American Progress) apparently advising the White House about certain actions that should be taken, and days later - the action being taken. This happened on numerous occasions. One of CAPs funders is billionaire George Soros, and widely believed to be a mamber. So you have a fairly left wing man with a semmingly hot line to White House policy & an unlimited bank account.

    It was CAPs recommendation about the 6 month moratorium, so why would Soros have any interest in US coastal drilling? After all he is a left wing liberalist. Well Beck states that the unused oil rigs will now move south (Brazil), where apparently the Brazillian state owned oil company Petrobras has pledged to go deeper/farther than even the Horizon site. It then turns out, that Soros has huge stakes in Petrobras - a company which is now set to recieve all the unused oil rigs & make an absoloute fortune. It also turns out the Obama administration, has confirmed a 2 Billion dollar loan to Petrobras recently....:confused:

    Sorry for the long winded posts, and maybe Beck is a loon I simply dont know yet. But he spoke clearly, showed all the facts (interviews etc), and wasnt pushy about what he was trying to say. He obviously explained it far better than I have above. Its not on the tube yet that I can see, but it certainly educated me somewhat. Why would Obama halt coastal/oceanic oil production for 6 months, knowing the rigs wouldnt sit around waiting? Is it because of CAP (Soros' interests in Brazillian oil production)? All those jobs are gonna go now, now isnt the time to be thinking Green. Whats the 2 Billion dollar loan to Petrobras all about? Thats the conspiracy, because lets face it although a ocean floor collapsing/tsunami scenario would be terrible - the world we live in is just NOT that interesting.


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