How big is the Deepwater Horizon oil spill?

digme

http://paulrademacher.com/oilspill/

I was reading that it is supposedly 5 times larger than what they are letting on.

PirateShampoo

Lets just cross our fingers that they can cap the bloody thing.

digme

Seems the world is getting worse and worse every week.

Mahatma coat

can they recover somethin useful from the oil that has spilled?????

tis fair big..

Cookie_Monster

whats the conspiracy here?

I doubt anyone actually knows the full extent of it yet and let remember its growing by about 200,000 barrels a day!

TalkieWalkie

Now it's a conspiracy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77pBcf0o444

TalkieWalkie

digme wrote: »

Seems the world is getting worse and worse every week.

It is getting worse, that's the whole idea. It keeps people vibrating on a low frequency, it stops some people from waking up.

Stainless_Steel

TalkieWalkie wrote: »

It is getting worse, that's the whole idea. It keeps people vibrating on a low frequency, it stops some people from waking up.

That's ridiculous.

TalkieWalkie

Stainless_Steel wrote: »

That's ridiculous.

No it isnt. Everything is vibrations, scientific fact. When ur on a low frequency you are blind.

Low frequency come from fear, worry, frustration ect

Stainless_Steel

TalkieWalkie wrote: »

No it isnt. Everything is vibrations, scientific fact. When ur on a low frequency you are blind.

Low frequency come from fear, worry, frustration ect

OK....you are claiming that the oil spill is an effort to stop people 'waking up'. Correct?

If so, that is ridiculous.

TalkieWalkie

Stainless_Steel wrote: »

OK....you are claiming that the oil spill is an effort to stop people 'waking up'. Correct?

If so, that is ridiculous.

Oil spills, financial troubles, wars, diseases, RFID chips, food additives, chemtrails, bomb hoaxes, smoking, alcohol, drugs you name it, they are all an effort to stop people waking up. The entire physical universe is made up of pure energy and vibration. When you have the insight to see everything as vibration, the nature of the universe is revealed to you. Try it sometime

Stainless_Steel

TalkieWalkie wrote: »

Oil spills, financial troubles, wars, diseases, RFID chips, food additives, chemtrails, bomb hoaxes, smoking, alcohol, drugs you name it, they are all an effort to stop people waking up. The entire physical universe is made up of pure energy and vibration. When you have the insight to see everything as vibration, the nature of the universe is revealed to you. Try it sometime

Even more ridiculous...well done.

Black Swan

The conspiracy summarised plain and simple: "Business as usual in the US."

Whereas other countries demanded that off shore oil drillers had safety equipment installed to stop such a blow-out should it occur, during the Bush-Cheney years, the administration cared more about oil company profits (and political campaign contributions from oil corporations) than safety; i.e., the oil corporations off US waters did not have to pay for this type of safety, thereby allowing them to add those safety monies to profits.

TalkieWalkie

Stainless_Steel wrote: »

Even more ridiculous...well done.

Instead of having a typical ignorant attitude toward anything positive, a simple bit of research would tell you it is true.

kippy

Stainless_Steel wrote: »

Even more ridiculous...well done.

I have to say a few years ago I would agree and even now I dont think any of these disasters are designed to keep people "blind" however.

I've started reading this series of books:
http://www.ringingcedars.co.uk/
And have opened my mind a bit to the "alternatives" out there.

I dont think theres any particular conspiracy in this oil spill outside of the usual human greed.

Stainless_Steel

TalkieWalkie wrote: »

Instead of having a typical ignorant attitude toward anything positive, a simple bit of research would tell you it is true.

Ignorant how? And how is what you say positive? Because it's you opinion?

Don't get me wrong you could be right, but my evil streak tells me it would be a stupid idea to spill oil to stop people 'waking up'. If that's the evil genius we are up against......

TalkieWalkie

Stainless_Steel wrote: »

Ignorant how? And how is what you say positive? Because it's you opinion?

Don't get me wrong you could be right, but my evil streak tells me it would be a stupid idea to spill oil to stop people 'waking up'. If that's the evil genius we are up against......

I mean ignorant in relation to someone calling it ridiculous without researching it.
Many people will loose their jobs over the oil spill, fishermen ect, many animals will die, the atmosphere will suffer, it will add to the supposed oil shortage issues, it will cost a fortune to clean up and will cost a lot of people a lot of financial difficulty all in turn keeps people on low vibration, keeps them watching the tv, keeps them depressed, worried, concerned, angry. Obviously I don't know if it was done on purpose and I never said it was but there are many other thing done on purpose to the masses to keep them at this low frequency.
Digme said "it's getting worse every week", and it is. People are waking up (reaching a higher vibration) on a large scale now due to the cycle of the sun and our masters obviously don't want that, so more things are happening to prevent it happening. 9/11 war on terror, earthquakes, world financial problems, crap in our food, water, air, vaccines the list goes on and is growing (all self inflicted), it's all a show. It's all about keeping people in a state of bad health, fear and frustration, it dumbs us down.

Stainless_Steel

TalkieWalkie wrote: »

I mean ignorant in relation to someone calling it ridiculous without researching it.
Many people will loose their jobs over the oil spill, fishermen ect, many animals will die, the atmosphere will suffer, it will add to the supposed oil shortage issues, it will cost a fortune to clean up and will cost a lot of people a lot of financial difficulty all in turn keeps people on low vibration, keeps them watching the tv, keeps them depressed, worried, concerned, angry. Obviously I don't know if it was done on purpose and I never said it was but there are many other thing done on purpose to the masses to keep them at this low frequency.
Digme said "it's getting worse every week", and it is. People are waking up (reaching a higher vibration) on a large scale now due to the cycle of the sun and our masters obviously don't want that, so more things are happening to prevent it happening. 9/11 war on terror, earthquakes, world financial problems, crap in our food, water, air, vaccines the list goes on and is growing (all self inflicted), it's all a show. It's all about keeping people in a state of bad health, fear and frustration, it dumbs us down.

I tend to agree with you. The population are being "dumbed down" in my opinion.

I just think it's ridiculous that one can see this oil spill as a ploy to dumb people down, sorry.

And I don't buy into your thing about vibrations. Do you mean low frequency when you say low vibrations? When a person is on a low vibration, is their brain physically working differently. Or am I interpreting you wrong?

TalkieWalkie

Here is a pretty good article that explains it better than I can

The vibration of our “bodies” at every level, physical and non-physical, has a profound influence on our ability to attract positive experiences. The higher your vibration, the more of a “magnet” you become as a result of the thoughts you hold in your mind. By holding only thoughts of the “things” you wish to manifest into your experience, and keeping your vibrations high in the ways we discussed previously, you will find your wishes will manifest much more quickly.

When you learn to see everything as vibration different in terms of rate and stability, you will understand what you need in order to obtain the desired effect in any situation. It is all about balancing vibrations. There are lots more aspects of physical reality than those mentioned here where this principle is applied to.

Once you are aware of this principle and always think in terms of vibration, you can understand practically everything that happens in the physical world. This is one of the governing dynamics that allows you to make sense of everything.

Having this awareness is like seeing the world in code, like the Matrix.

http://www.mindreality.com/science-of-vibration-in-every-aspect-of-physical

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ltdMp_lh8s

Flaregon

Stainless_Steel wrote: »

Ignorant how? And how is what you say positive? Because it's you opinion?

Don't get me wrong you could be right, but my evil streak tells me it would be a stupid idea to spill oil to stop people 'waking up'. If that's the evil genius we are up against......

steel I agree, why not drop a nuke or something.


The only reason it even happened is because of the worlds only skeleton keys.

Money, money & more money

&
the retards that built the rig of cource.

mostlikely if there is a conspricy here it about how everyone but the company who made the problem will pay for it.They just have to up oil 5-10 dollars a barrel, they may even call it a green tax LOL.

TalkieWalkie

Stainless_Steel wrote: »

I just think it's ridiculous that one can see this oil spill as a ploy to dumb people down, sorry.

Ask yourself, "why would they want to dumb down a population"? "what are they afraid of ?"

TempleogueHead

wasn't it 5 miles long and a mile wide?

phantom_lord

TalkieWalkie wrote: »

Here is a pretty good article that explains it better than I can

http://www.mindreality.com/science-of-vibration-in-every-aspect-of-physical

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ltdMp_lh8s

seriously, wake up, and stop paying attention to this ct nonsense.

Pete M.

TempleogueHead wrote: »

wasn't it 5 miles long and a mile wide?

Hah!!:rolleyes:

One part of it moving towards land is 10 miles long, 3 miles wide , don't know how deep :eek:

5000 barrels per day for 28 days at 200L/barrel is 26,000,000 L :eek:

Ah shur we'd use it in a week here.

But seriously, fcuking terrible thing to happen, those photos are bleak looking.
The place is going to be ruined and who knows what knock on consequences it may have,
Bad day for poor auld Gaia, has to put up with a lot of sh1t from us lot, whether we vibrate a lot or just a little.

Undergod

The vibration of our “bodies” at every level, physical and non-physical, has a profound influence on our ability to attract positive experiences. The higher your vibration, the more of a “magnet” you become as a result of the thoughts you hold in your mind. By holding only thoughts of the “things” you wish to manifest into your experience, and keeping your vibrations high in the ways we discussed previously, you will find your wishes will manifest much more quickly.

When you learn to see everything as vibration different in terms of rate and stability, you will understand what you need in order to obtain the desired effect in any situation. It is all about balancing vibrations. There are lots more aspects of physical reality than those mentioned here where this principle is applied to.

Once you are aware of this principle and always think in terms of vibration, you can understand practically everything that happens in the physical world. This is one of the governing dynamics that allows you to make sense of everything.

Having this awareness is like seeing the world in code, like the Matrix.

So what's this non-physical vibration all about? What's vibrating? How can it vibrate if it's not physical?

humanji

Phantom_Lord wrote:

seriously, wake up, and stop paying attention to this ct nonsense.

If you don't want to discuss the topic, don't post in the thread.

digme

The latest glimpse of video footage of the oil spill deep under the Gulf of Mexico indicates that around 95,000 barrels, or 4 million gallons, a day of crude oil may be spewing from the leaking wellhead, 19 times the previous estimate, an engineering professor told Congress on Wednesday.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/05/19/1638091/gulf-oil-spill-may-be-19-times.html#ixzz0oQPTGoHa

If there's any truth to this, all i can say is holy sh!t.

phantom_lord

TalkieWalkie wrote: »

It is getting worse, that's the whole idea. It keeps people vibrating on a low frequency, it stops some people from waking up.

TalkieWalkie wrote: »

No it isnt. Everything is vibrations, scientific fact. When ur on a low frequency you are blind.

Low frequency come from fear, worry, frustration ect

TalkieWalkie wrote: »

Instead of having a typical ignorant attitude toward anything positive, a simple bit of research would tell you it is true.

TalkieWalkie wrote: »

Here is a pretty good article that explains it better than I can

http://www.mindreality.com/science-of-vibration-in-every-aspect-of-physical

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ltdMp_lh8s

Sorry I probably went a big overboard. I realise that that the kinda rules or generally methods of backing stuff up is going to be fairly loose here. But how how can someone post like that and then offer up an article like that as prove of what they're talking about?

SisterTrip

phantom_lord wrote: »

Sorry I probably went a big overboard. I realise that that the kinda rules or generally methods of backing stuff up is going to be fairly loose here. But how how can someone post like that and then offer up an article like that as prove of what they're talking about?

Having actually read what was said, I can see it wasn't meant as "proof", it was meant as an explanation. It explains it pretty well as I see it. The article, that is. The video is an nice extra.

digme

Plans in place to evacuate The Gulf Population

http://sfawbn.com/news/?p=1923

thomasmi

if north korea needed this oil they could load up,there submarines right there

Torakx

digme wrote: »

Plans in place to evacuate The Gulf Population

http://sfawbn.com/news/?p=1923

nice link.

"This is much more serious than they are letting on, especially as one of the options here is to burn the escaping oil!
Florida Gulf oil spill: Plans to evacuate Tampa Bay area expected to be announced
Gulf Oil Spill 2010: Plans to evacuate Tampa Bay area expected to be announced
Plans to evacuate the Tampa Bay area are expected to be announced in the coming days as FEMA prepares for what is now being called the worst oil disaster in the history of the world.
MORE HERE
Evacuate Florida!! Good God in Heaven!!! What have these monsters done to us!!
Was tuning my sat dish and picked up ‘The micro effect radio show’ and there is a scientist on there who said they have backup plans to evacuate Florida and eventually the East coast now that the oil is in the loop currents. The slick is releasing huge amounts of Benzene. Benzene will flat out kill ya!! Don’t go down there, stay away!!!!
http://www.themicroeffect.com/"


Handy FEMA is around is all il say on that one.

espinolman

The disaster is shown in the 2008 film "knowing".

Of course it could not be that it was actually planned , no , these things just happen accidently , everyone knows that , just like planes hitting the twin towers were shown on a television programme before 9/11 , thats just a coincidence . Right ! :rolleyes:

humanji

Of course it is. It's called 20/20 hindsight.

kippy

espinolman wrote: »

The disaster is shown in the 2008 film "knowing".

Of course it could not be that it was actually planned , no , these things just happen accidently , everyone knows that , just like planes hitting the twin towers were shown on a television programme before 9/11 , thats just a coincidence . Right ! :rolleyes:

Yeah but what about the time travelling car from the 80's - we still havent seen that???

Yitzhak Rabin

espinolman wrote: »

The disaster is shown in the 2008 film "knowing".

Have a look at this comparison between 1979 and 2010 oild disasters. Very very similar, and show's BP really did **** all to make off-shore drilling any safer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPbUrB0moUA

digme

BP is being accused of trying to manipulate the search results on sites like Google and Yahoo, as it attempts to salvage its battered image following the oil slick in the Gulf of Mexico.


The company is purchasing terms such as “oil spill”, “Deepwater Horizon” and “Gulf of Mexico”, so that when a user types these words into the search engines, the results prominently feature a “sponsored link” to BP’s official page on its response to the spill.


Critics have described BP’s move as unethical. Maureen Mackey, a writer on the Fiscal Times, an online news site, said: “What it effectively does is that it bumps down other legitimate news and opinion pieces that are addressing the spill... and \[BP are\] paying big money for that.”


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article7146177.ece

Hilarious.

Richard tea

At least someone made money off this disaster

http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0602/month-oil-spill-goldman-sachs-sold-250-million-bp-stock/

TalkieWalkie

The birds are frying

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wZfnqn1G2U

phantom_lord

espinolman wrote: »

The disaster is shown in the 2008 film "knowing".

Of course it could not be that it was actually planned , no , these things just happen accidently , everyone knows that , just like planes hitting the twin towers were shown on a television programme before 9/11 , thats just a coincidence . Right ! :rolleyes:

are you serious?

Lab_Mouse

espinolman wrote: »

thats just a coincidence . Right ! :rolleyes:

Yes you're correct

schween

digme wrote: »

http://paulrademacher.com/oilspill/

I was reading that it is supposedly 5 times larger than what they are letting on.

I don't know how accurate it is on this one. It covers about two thirds of Ireland.

http://www.ifitwasmyhome.com/

macshadow

A very interesting thread over at the david icke forum
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=119736

tommyhaas

digme wrote: »

BP is being accused of trying to manipulate the search results on sites like Google and Yahoo, as it attempts to salvage its battered image following the oil slick in the Gulf of Mexico.


The company is purchasing terms such as “oil spill”, “Deepwater Horizon” and “Gulf of Mexico”, so that when a user types these words into the search engines, the results prominently feature a “sponsored link” to BP’s official page on its response to the spill.


Critics have described BP’s move as unethical. Maureen Mackey, a writer on the Fiscal Times, an online news site, said: “What it effectively does is that it bumps down other legitimate news and opinion pieces that are addressing the spill... and \[BP are\] paying big money for that.”


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article7146177.ece

Hilarious.

So essentially what the're saying is that BP have being using the internet for advertising a positive image?

B******S...

TalkieWalkie

After BP successfully placed a cap to divert some of the spewing oil into tankers, thousands of gallons continue to flow daily into the gulf. August is slated as the earliest date that any permanent solution may emerge. BP remains totally in charge of potentially the largest environmental disaster in the earth’s recorded history, a fact that proves — in “check mate” fashion — that corporations dominate the inner workings of the U.S. government, a truth previously revealed by the bank bailouts.



More than one gigantic eco-system may be destroyed by BP, and the President of the U.S. is sadly reduced to lecturing in “serious tones,” with daily adjustments of tone based on the results of polling agencies.



When the polls reported that Obama wasn’t taking the oil spill seriously enough, his next TV appearance depicted him as “outraged.” Yet his continuing lack of action doesn’t match his new, stronger emotions; nor does his inaction match the dire seriousness of the situation.



Indeed, Obama continues to allow BP to lie about the seriousness of the spill, even when numerous independent scientists disputed BP’s estimates of the spillage. Of course Obama knew that BP had a profit incentive to lie, while Obama has his own incentive to allow the lie — and continued lies — of BP.



One reason Obama doesn’t challenge BP is because he’s on their payroll. The news agency Reuters explains: “During his time in the Senate and while running for president, Obama received a total of $77,051 from the oil giant and is the top recipient of BP PAC and individual money over the past 20 years, according to financial disclosure records.” (May 5, 2010).



In July, BP is set to give its shareholders multi-billion dollar dividends — prompting more toothless anger from Obama — while BP continues to maintain a healthy distance from taking complete accountability for the oil spill.



The results are sadly predictable: many of the effects of the spill will be permanent, while the cleanup and recovery will go on for years and decades, possibly costing the extinction of some species and the United States billions and maybe trillions of dollars in the long term.



BP will throw itself at the mercy of the courts, an elite entity much friendlier to the mega-corporations than to the millions of U.S.workers demanding justice. Add to the equation BP’s elite attorneys and you have an eventual settlement — after years — that will equal the tiniest fraction of the caused devastation. This prediction was all but confirmed by the mainstream media, when Curt Anderson of the Associated Press reported:

“More than half of the federal judges in districts where the bulk of Gulf oil spill-related lawsuits are pending have financial connections to the oil and gas industry, complicating the task of finding judges without conflicts to hear the cases...” (June 6, 2010).

Aside from the above financial blocks to holding BP accountable, there lays a deeper code of ethics that prohibit government interference into the matters of private corporations, no matter how great the damage done to the general public.



At the top of this corporate code of ethics is the sacredness of property rights, meaning that large corporations have complete control — outside the grasp of any government — to do what they want with their giant wealth and facilities, wherever and whenever they want.



To the U.S. government, this right pre-empts human rights, environmental rights, etc. Property rights are enshrined in every free-trade agreement the U.S. government signs, so that overseas corporate investments are strictly protected, prohibiting foreign nations from using U.S. corporate facilities for the social needs of their native populations. Although BP is a British corporation, the rules of this code are mutual and global.



Nowadays, the tiniest crack in the foundation of corporate property rights constitutes “communism” — a right wing accusation hurled at Obama after he partially nationalized General Motors and other institutions in response to the economic crisis. And although Obama intruded into the sanctity of property rights when the financial crisis exploded, it was with the general consent of the corporate establishment — who viewed those actions as necessary, short-term evils — meant to save the investments of the rich, while using taxpayer money to rehabilitate the companies before they were eventually handed back to shareholders.



The emergency in the Gulf of Mexico, on the other hand, is viewed by the corporate elite as a lesser crisis, demanding the government not set another precedent that would point to the necessity of public ownership.



Obama’s unwillingness to push aside BP and take government charge of the operation makes him an accomplice to the environmental disaster. For example, in order that BP be allowed to remain at the helm, Obama has given them professional credibility where none should exist — “they have the expertise and technology,” etc. BP’s actions prior to the spill constitute criminal negligence. The comments of BP’s CEO since the spill undoubtedly prove that the company views the disaster as more of an inconvenience, to be handled at their leisure.



Furthermore, every public appearance of a BP executive or spokesperson serves to minimize the crisis, implying that a less immediate reaction is required. Indeed, as a for-profit company, BP’s actions remain motivated by concern for their shareholders, whose only motivation is profit. In practice, this means fewer resources are dedicated to the spill than would be otherwise, since higher cleanup costs equal lower profits. One glaring example of this was cited in The New York Times, which quoted a scientist working for the Flow Rate Technical Group, a team of scientists trying to accurately gauge the flow of oil into the Gulf:



“It’s apparent that BP is playing games with us, presumably under the advice of their legal team,” Dr. Leifer said. “It’s six weeks that it’s been dumping into the gulf, and still no measurements.” (June 7, 2010).



Local government officials in Florida are also disgusted with BP’s lack of action in preventing the oil from landing on their beaches, while doing next to nothing in cleaning up the beached oil. The attorney general of Florida complained:

“I’m outraged…why are we waiting so long to do this? Why is the Coast Guard, Obama, BP waiting? They’ve seen it coming, so why are we waiting?” (Bloomberg, June 7, 2010).

Obama’s religious faith in BP to properly handle the spill — after it had no emergency plan to deal with such a spill in the first place — borders on lunacy. But the logic is sensible from the corporate prospective, which preaches that all is rational which protects profits.



In a sane world, BP’s executives would be facing severe criminal charges, and the billions of profits they’ve earned in the last year would be confiscated to pay for the cleanup. BP’s infrastructure would be taken under the control of the U.S. government, which could ensure that the job was done correctly, timely, and publicly, as opposed to the shield of corporate secrecy currently protecting BP.



The ultimate lesson of this environmental/economic catastrophe is that Obama is not at all serious about confronting corporate interests. Rather, he allows them to stampede over the public interests, ensuring that such disasters will happen again.

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=19634

TalkieWalkie

pics:

http://www.eutimes.net/2010/06/more-shocking-photos-of-the-gulf-of-mexico-oil-spill-disaster/

GarlicBread

Apparently there are 3 leaks and all of them are gushing massive amounts far in excess of what is being reported. Everything they have done to try and stop the leaks has failed.

When they tried to plug the main well with cement/mud they caused what is called a 'blow out'. This means that now the oil is gushing out of the sea floor aswell as the drill holes.

The situation is completely uncontrollable and is probably the worst environmental disaster of all time bar none.

The only option to stop it is to send nukes into the holes to incase(melt and seal) it from the inside. If this isnt done the oil will contaminate the adlantic ocean for the next thirty years or more.

There is also the possibility of tectonic activity from either the nukes or from the vacuum where the oil is coming.

It is not looking good at all.

macshadow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWRP5D8hkL0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cas4rIkzvDI

tommyhaas

TalkieWalkie wrote: »

After BP successfully placed a cap to divert some of the spewing oil into tankers, thousands of gallons continue to flow daily into the gulf. August is slated as the earliest date that any permanent solution may emerge. BP remains totally in charge of potentially the largest environmental disaster in the earth’s recorded history, a fact that proves — in “check mate” fashion — that corporations dominate the inner workings of the U.S. government, a truth previously revealed by the bank bailouts.



More than one gigantic eco-system may be destroyed by BP, and the President of the U.S. is sadly reduced to lecturing in “serious tones,” with daily adjustments of tone based on the results of polling agencies.

Your conveiniently leaving out the fact that there are two other companies involved in the project, one owning the deepwater horizon rig, and another whose work on the rig may have led to the leak.

Also, who would you like to see in charge of the situation? BP are the company best equiped in terms of resourses and expertiese to attempt to stop it

Mac daddy

tommyhaas wrote: »

Your conveiniently leaving out the fact that there are two other companies involved in the project, one owning the deepwater horizon rig, and another whose work on the rig may have led to the leak.

And you are leaving out another fact, which is Halluburton was responsible for the cementing that created both oil spills.

And also Halluburton Buys "Boots-N-Coots" Oil clean-up company 8 days before the spill for $240Million
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE63907A20100410