Email from "John Murphy" - WTF?

Faith

Did anyone else get the email from "John Murphy" entitled "VERY IMPORTANT: Stark warning about "mental health" at UCC." yet? Eh... WTF? It's completely bizarre! It's incredibly long, so I'm not going to copy and paste it, but I am curious to see who else got it.

samf

I didnt get it, but ive seen a copy of it, and I wouldnt recommend anyone post it up here as its libelous against one particular UCC staff member. The author (who I feel really bad for) is clearly suffering from severe mental health issues. Less said about it the better really.

orangetictac

Faith wrote: »

I'm incredibly long

lol


No I didnt get it either.

Saw it on facebook though. Didnt read any of it..........

Faith

orangetictac wrote: »

lol


No I didnt get it either.

Saw it on facebook though. Didnt read any of it..........

Lol, well spotted.

D-Generate

Can someone post up the content of the email without the names purlease?

skittlesej

I got it too, and it freaked me out because it was sent to my email address directly and not through any list or anything... It's an extremely strange email, and gets quite personal about real staff members of UCC (I looked them up).

Jay P

I'd love to know how he got my email.

Miaireland

D-Generate wrote: »

Can someone post up the content of the email without the names purlease?

I googled it. Just put John Murphy UCC and email into google and you should get it.

samf

Jay P wrote: »

I'd love to know how he got my email.

UCC's people search make email harvesting extremely easy if you have a lot of free time on your hands.

skittlesej

samf wrote: »

UCC's people search make email harvesting extremely easy if you have a lot of free time on your hands.

Don't you have to enter someone's name directly to get an email address though? I have a really unusual name, I can't imagine it being an easy-to-spam candidate really...

Byron85

Just read it. The person is obviously a Scientology or CCHR troll.

samf

T.W.H Byron wrote: »

Just read it. The person is obviously a Scientology or CCHR troll.

No, he's a known mentally ill UCC student.

Don't you have to enter someone's name directly to get an email address though? I have a really unusual name, I can't imagine it being an easy-to-spam candidate really...

Thats the thing though, you dont search by name you search by degree. As a proof of concept before I managed to save every students email address in a document, it didnt take long at all. Its a bad security flaw on UCC's behalf really.

Shoesa

I didn't know what to think when I read it so I emailed one of my lecturers in the Psych department, asking if it was a weird social experiment.

Byron85

samf wrote: »

No, he's a known mentally ill UCC student.

Bloody hell.

ReacherCreature

D-Generate wrote: »

Can someone post up the content of the email without the names purlease?

Tbh it's so long and detailed it wouldn't be worth it. Google it.

Jay P wrote: »

I'd love to know how he got my email.

Can't people send them out to everyone via [EMAIL="'allstudents@ucc.ie'"]allstudents@etc.?[/EMAIL] or something? EDIT: Just saw he has my name in the 'to' section. Now that's a little unsettling.

Regardless, it's strange. He/She's after becoming an internet sensation already, boards, peoplesrepublicofcork, few discussions on Facebook; even a group!

Parsley

just got it there... seems like a bit of a mad fella alright.

ReacherCreature

Parsley wrote: »

just got it there... seems like a bit of a mad fella alright.

The conspiracy theories are flowing in as to who he might be. Everyone thinks they know him as someone or the other.

rebel girl 15

I didn't get it, but read the email in full online, guy who wrote it is clearly mentally ill - though completely in denial

There is NO SUCH THING as "mental illness", there is NO SUCH THING as schizophrenia. They are MADE UP THINGS

Then found this group on facebook http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=114791915221693

ReacherCreature

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

I didn't get it, but read the email in full online, guy who wrote it is clearly mentally ill - though completely in denial



Then found this group on facebook http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=114791915221693

The fact that he speaks so well and is intelligent makes it seem a little more sinister to me.

Shoesa

There's another group called "I hate when I'm walking along and Dr Byrne admits me into psychiatric care!" which is not fu*king funny at all. The poor man is suffering from schizophrenia probably and is obviously traumatized from his experiences as a patient in general - go figure, schizophrenics often don't know they're schizophrenic.

It makes me so mad, laughing at someones misfortune really robs them of their dignity. :mad:

rebel girl 15

ReacherCreature wrote: »

The fact that he speaks so well and is intelligent makes it seem a little more sinister to me.

A person can be mentally ill but still very articulate and intelligent

ReacherCreature

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

A person can be mentally ill but still very articulate and intelligent

I understand but I've no experience with this so I've no real understanding. My comment above wasn't meant to cause insult.

delop

And I dont think many people here would be qualified to comment based on his email...

I was a bit nervous when I read about 'The Rosenhan experiment' a few years ago http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosenhan_experiment

DingosAteMyBaby

Creepy stuff alright. A lot of tiime and effort went into sending that email :eek:

ReacherCreature

Shoesa wrote: »

There's another group called "I hate when I'm walking along and Dr Byrne admits me into psychiatric care!" which is not fu*king funny at all. The poor man is suffering from schizophrenia probably and is obviously traumatized from his experiences as a patient in general - go figure, schizophrenics often don't know they're schizophrenic.

It makes me so mad, laughing at someones misfortune really robs them of their dignity. :mad:

Total +1.

The Paws

I got the email too...the poor thing. I didnt know what to think when I had a quick look at the rest of the mail.
I hope this "person" will get the help s/he needs.

+1 ucc email addresses need to be blocked out or otherwise anyone around anywhere can email us eg insert any surname and pick one email to use.... I wish UCC will just take off our names from the webpage to be on a safe side.

...thank god - I thought I was the only one got it!

rebel girl 15

The Paws wrote: »

I got the email too...the poor thing. I didnt know what to think when I had a quick look at the rest of the mail.
I hope this "person" will get the help s/he needs.

+1 ucc email addresses need to be blocked out or otherwise anyone around anywhere can email us eg insert any surname and pick one email to use.... I wish UCC will just take off our names from the webpage to be on a safe side.

I can't see any reason why our emails would be up on the website anyway!

Anyway, can't they track the email? I've had enough weird people emailing me last week, don't need another one!! I wonder why he sent it to certain students and not others? Maybe its module or courses in common or something like that??

PhatPiggins

samf wrote: »

I didnt get it, but ive seen a copy of it, and I wouldnt recommend anyone post it up here as its libelous against one particular UCC staff member. The author (who I feel really bad for) is clearly suffering from severe mental health issues. Less said about it the better really.

Libelous my arse. A future in politics surely awaits you Sam. You seem to be a firm believer in the tell them nothing, its for their own good mentality that is the foundation of our great political system

skittlesej

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

I can't see any reason why our emails would be up on the website anyway!

Anyway, can't they track the email? I've had enough weird people emailing me last week, don't need another one!! I wonder why he sent it to certain students and not others? Maybe its module or courses in common or something like that??

There doesn't seem to be much order to it though, like it's not alphabetical or by course or anything... And he seems to be sending them throughout the day, which implies that he's actually sending these out individually...I got mine at 12.22am and a friend got his 3 hours later....
This 'John Murphy' guy is probably sitting at a computer as we speak sending the email to as many staff and students he can...

There seems to be so much time put into this, apparently the pdf he links is 51 pages long... It worries me that he's so adamant.

samf

PhatPiggins wrote: »

Libelous my arse. A future in politics surely awaits you Sam. You seem to be a firm believer in the tell them nothing, its for their own good mentality that is the foundation of our great political system

Not Libelous? Have you seen the original email? A staff member is mentioned throughout and is accused of all kinds of everything. Im pretty sure posting such a piece would break boards.ie rules.

libel (for written, broadcast, or otherwise published words)—is the communication of a statement that makes a claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual, business, product, group, government, or nation a negative image.

Plus - its distasteful considering this is likely a former student of UCC who might still know people or even have friends here.

tell them nothing, its for their own good

No its not for your own good, its for the good of the poor guy who sent the email in the first place, so less of the political accusations thanks.

ReacherCreature

PhatPiggins wrote: »

Libelous my arse. A future in politics surely awaits you Sam. You seem to be a firm believer in the tell them nothing, its for their own good mentality that is the foundation of our great political system

:rolleyes:

skittlesej wrote: »

There doesn't seem to be much order to it though, like it's not alphabetical or by course or anything... And he seems to be sending them throughout the day, which implies that he's actually sending these out individually...I got mine at 12.22am and a friend got his 3 hours later....
This 'John Murphy' guy is probably sitting at a computer as we speak sending the email to as many staff and students he can...

There seems to be so much time put into this, apparently the pdf he links is 51 pages long... It worries me that he's so adamant.

58 pages and it's just odd I hear. Didn't read it and I don't think I will.

EDIT: Just spotted this on CollegeRoad.ie;

The email received by some students today was not targeted at any individual or group of individuals.

The person who sent the email accessed the emails by typing random letters into the UCC search directory.

Relevant University authorities are aware of the situation and necessary action is being taken.

We would ask students to refrain from commenting on forum boards or creating tasteless facebook groups as they may serve to aggravate the situation.

Enquiries to info@uccsu.ie

**ALL COMMENTS ON THIS POST WILL BE DELETED**

'refrain from commenting on forum boards'

Does that mean us too? :pac:

Byron85

I guarantee you he's been reading Scientology and cchr literature. It's almost a given at this stage when it comes to anti-psychiatry rhetoric.

titan18

Just noticed the time I got mine at 2.53 am.Anyone earlier?

Also,the facebook groups are a bit of a joke, not funny to joke about mental illness like that.

captainspeckle

PhatPiggins wrote: »

Libelous my arse. A future in politics surely awaits you Sam. You seem to be a firm believer in the tell them nothing, its for their own good mentality that is the foundation of our great political system

Ah will you give it a rest for **** sake! :rolleyes:

The Paws

so it is true that only some of us got the email?
ah this is too frecky! I really hope the help is there fast. I am sure UCC staff knows who this person is by now.

I felt sorry those who has this name - "John Murphy" ...s/he should have used an unusual name.

Iron Hide

Just some guy trying to advocate Scientology i reckon, the email is enough but the pdf document is just a 60 page rant against it

rebel girl 15

Anyone actually read the attached PDF??

The Paws

titan18 wrote: »

Just noticed the time I got mine at 2.53 am.Anyone earlier?

Also,the facebook groups are a bit of a joke, not funny to joke about mental illness like that.

I got mine last night at around 10pm but only read this morning.

The Paws

titan18 wrote: »

Just noticed the time I got mine at 2.53 am.Anyone earlier?

Also,the facebook groups are a bit of a joke, not funny to joke about mental illness like that.

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

Anyone actually read the attached PDF??

nope...i was afraid to do it!
what was in it?

rebel girl 15

The Paws wrote: »

nope...i was afraid to do it!
what was in it?

I don't know, thats why I asked!!

samf

The Paws wrote: »

so it is true that only some of us got the email?
ah this is too frecky! I really hope the help is there fast. I am sure UCC staff knows who this person is by now.

I felt sorry those who has this name - "John Murphy" ...s/he should have used an unusual name.

For anyone wondering about the whole name thing - i wouldnt give it a second thought, as it said in the collegeroad post he simply searched various random letters/combinations of letters and emailed all them, plus he may have simply reached a limit on the amount you can send in a day. Regardless - its totally irrelevant, just dont get creeped out if you got it and your friend didnt. Same goes for times sent.

John Murphy is the name of the UCC mailinglist administrator (i.e. the person in charge of regulating all student emails) - so this name was not just plucked from the air.

Faith

titan18 wrote: »

Just noticed the time I got mine at 2.53 am.Anyone earlier?

Also,the facebook groups are a bit of a joke, not funny to joke about mental illness like that.

12.05 am.

I have the pdf opened, but I haven't actually read it yet though.

titan18

samf wrote: »

For anyone wondering about the whole name thing - i wouldnt give it a second thought, as it said in the collegeroad post he simply searched various random letters/combinations of letters and emailed all them, plus he may have simply reached a limit on the amount you can send in a day. Regardless - its totally irrelevant, just dont get creeped out if you got it and your friend didnt. Same goes for times sent.

John Murphy is the name of the UCC mailinglist administrator (i.e. the person in charge of regulating all student emails) - so this name was not just plucked from the air.

Are you sure that he got the name from that,John Murphy would be a pretty common name, I'd say there was nothing in the name choice tbh.

Also,wasn't suggesting there was anything in the times,was just interested at what time he started at.

ReacherCreature

titan18 wrote: »

Just noticed the time I got mine at 2.53 am.Anyone earlier?

Got mine at 1.52 a.m.

samf wrote: »

For anyone wondering about the whole name thing - i wouldnt give it a second thought, as it said in the collegeroad post he simply searched various random letters/combinations of letters and emailed all them, plus he may have simply reached a limit on the amount you can send in a day. Regardless - its totally irrelevant, just dont get creeped out if you got it and your friend didnt. Same goes for times sent.

I'm wondering if he done something simpler like went on to a Facebook page related to UCC whether it be CollegeRoad, Overheard, UCC etc. and copied some names of the members over? Meh maybe I'm reading into it too much.

I'm just wondering if there'll be a follow up and it'll become more ridiculous with all the groups etc.

samf

titan18 wrote: »

Are you sure that he got the name from that,John Murphy would be a pretty common name, I'd say there was nothing in the name choice tbh.

No, not sure and it may be a random name but i'd guess not since he mentions the webmail adminstrator at the end:

I wouldn't use your college email as it's
possible for the webmail administrator to silently block your email from being sent to a particular email address and he
might do that for anon1249@gmail.com.

By the sound of it he's had a run in with the webmail adminstrator.

And ReacherCreature I honestly am convinced a random selection of students got it and it wasnt something more sinister.

ReacherCreature

samf wrote: »

And ReacherCreature I honestly am convinced a random selection of students got it and it wasnt something more sinister.

Cool. Gotcha.

rebel girl 15

I presume whatever email address this guy was sending them from has been blocked by the college now, so no one else gets it?

Papa_Lazarou

Right im not going to say how its done but a friend of mine just showed me how to get the email addresses from UCC. After doing the search we got a list of 23,000 addresses to show up. So basicaly i can get yer name,email address and course from something thats ridiculous and should not be so open to get. Im not going to show anyone how its done but SamF if ye are in contact with UCC heads about it ill show you what it is.

proletarian

I read the pdf (having not been e-mailed, there's a link on peoplesrepublic) and it's basically a looooong treatise on his experiences with Dr X and so on and so forth, warnings to stay away from anti-psychotics, a plea for mankind to revert to a more natural state by eating raw foods, looking to our biological ancestry (the apes) to boycott anything processed, including an anecdote about an orangutan and its carer trying to feed it garlic...

I think it's really sad, your heart would break for the poor guy. The effort of that pdf too! It's organised in a sort of crazy, stream of consciousness way. If that makes any sense.

Knifey Spoony

Am I the only one here who hasn't seen this email??

Anyone know where I can see a copy? Tried googling it and couldn't find it.

Papa_Lazarou

Knifey Spoony wrote: »

Am I the only one here who hasn't seen this email??

Anyone know where I can see a copy? Tried googling it and couldn't find it.

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=118100534881812&topic=90

There's also a 50 page pdf document attached but i don't have a link for that.