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My little guy gets them, but he started when he was 3. I hope he grows out of them.dublinlady wrote: »Night terrors sound awful!! I'd heard of them in toddlers but not In babies nor adults!MurdyWurdy wrote: »Just realised my post makes it sound like my husband and I don't co-sleep! We do sleep together- the baby just doesn't sleep in the bed with us in case hubby has a night terror and starts thrashing around
He doesn't even remember when it happens, it's me who gets the rough end of the deal because I can't get back asleep. It is awful though - I'd imagine it must be horrible to see it in a baby or toddler
I don't co-sleep with the OH, we like our space and blankets too much. That said my bed often gets invaded by the 4 year old.
Night terrors in toddlers is horrible because they can be calling for you in terror and all you can do is hold them and they still can't settle or realise your there. It can be traumatic, for them and parents. I always end up cuddling my guy for ages. He breaks out in a sweat.0 -
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So, my baba had a formula feed at 11.20pm (he gets one a day to give me a little break) and I'm just giving him his next feed now (about 7am). I suppose that technically counts as sleeping through the night?
Unfortunately it doesn't feel like that to me, II was up quite a bit settling him back down when he woke up and from 4.30am he was sleeping on me. I still don't know what I can do to help him sleep better he is only up for a minute or two at a time but it ms pretty disruptive
I'm planning on starting him on solids early-ish for his reflux, on doc's advice and people have told me that often helps them sleep better. Anyone have experience with that?0 -
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I don't know about reflux and starting solids Murdy but a few of my friends who have babies the same age as mine (20wks) started solids and it made no difference to their sleeping. My LO went through weeks of waking up several times a night and it wasnt hunger related. It think its more developmental. He seems to have settled back down again.
I think I'm just being hopeful!
Hubby and I think the bad sleeping might be related to his sleeping set up. We have a wedge pillow under the mattress to keep him more upright so his reflux is not aggravated. This pillow makes him roll to the side so we have a sleep positioner as well. When he fussed at night it's usually because he has slid down the positioner and is lying at the end of the crib flat on his back.
We tried removing the pillow and positioner as the meds are working so well on his reflux but within minutes of doing this you could hear the reflux starting up. I'm not sure what we can do to combat this?
I guess one option is to have him sleep in the carrycot attachment of his pram ( it's designed to be safe to sleep in all night and we have a stand to turn it into a Moses basket). He's getting big for it though.
Not sure what else we can do and I know he's tired because he goes back asleep for two hours after waking in the morning and is hard to rouse. 0 -
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On expressing - I think I get it all out... First thing in morn within 10 mins I can get 4-5 oz from each side - but if its after the first feed I express so 11 o clock for example I'd get 3 or from side I didn't feed from much and 1-2ish from side I did feed from. By end of day - about 9 pm I get 1 or 2 oz from each side. I think I have a good supply - and I use the medela swing. I had the avent hand help and don't get quite as much or as quickly from it. I find mine comes out quickly - as in if I express for 5 mins on one side and get 4oz - if I kept going for another 10 mins I'd get lot more!
S is a bad sleeper - will feed her at 9,1, 4,6 some nights... I'm totally feeding her as comfort but not sure she's old enough to do better... To be honest I think it's me waking her by shuffling in the night but I just don't want her out of my room yet! I'm tired tho so don't know.. I'm afraid if I move her into her own room she'll wake A as her room is next door! I dunno. Could just be the 4 month sleep regression! Ill just leave it a couple weeks And see what happens.. If she's still at it in 3 or 4 weeks ill consider moving her!
Murdy - sounds tough I'm clearly no sleep expert - but gonna try the baby whisperer pick up out down method soon with S - it worked really well for A! I'm totally "accidental parenting " her with nursing her back to sleep but because of the 4 month development leap I'm just gonna go with it until I'm sure she's over that! Then ill start tho!
Was at work today actually and have planned to express when I'm not around S at feed times - today I was so busy I didn't get opportunity - so it was 5 hours and no feed or expressing - I'm really worried how this will effect my supply I don't want to give up yet so will just have to try make time - but it's very difficult. I was also terrified I'd leak badly - I had about 10 pads stuck in each cup!! I'd say ppl think I've huge boobs but no... It's just leak prevention!! Expressed as soon as got home as S had had an expressed bottle so wasn't due feed - I'm now sitting beside her willing her to wake up for a feed cos I miss her!!! Maybe she would like work 
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My second boy was 8 months before we got tough with the sleep / night routine and moved him to his own room (I wanted to wait for him to be the 12 months but it was obvious that we were waking each other). Some babies are just wakers i suppose.
I was so terribly upset last night - our 2 year old had a fit while we went out to Eddie Rockets for a meal (hubbys birthday & first time the 5 of us out for a meal), we had to leave, we then went to Mcdonalds which was fine with the 2 year old - I'm struggling a bit with him at the moment as out speech therapist is referring him on for assessment for Autism. After all that I was holding it together but when we got home and i started to get the baby ready for bed, he refused to take a feed, and started screaming - very unlike him. I tried everything that usually works but nothing would soothe him. So I gave him a bottle of expressed milk and he took about 3oz's so he was hungry. Afterwards I expressed over 5oz but left one boob half full as I was not sure how the night was going to go, so i did have the supply. I have never felt so useless as a mother, it really upset me. I know it could be many different things and he's feeding fine today and gave me a good sleep last night (until 6). But the 2 year old has refused a nap and is now like a briar!
I think the breastfeeding is propping me up psychologically as I feel I can at least do good by one of my kids! I know sounds stupid as if the 2 year old is Autistic there is not much we can do about that (there is a load we can do to get him to reach his potential). Sorry for the moan and its a bit disjointed - like my head at the moment! 0 -
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MurdyWurdy, my little guy has reflux too, but has slept through the night since 4 weeks, and is 5 months now EBF with no solids or formula, so I don't think there is a connection (in my experience). I also find HSE staff (PHNs, GPs, etc) to be very eager to suggest starting babies on baby rice/ purees etc, and I find that they are not well educated on breastfeeding at all. If I were you I would seek a second opinion, maybe from a LLL group, breastfeeding consultant, or Cuidiu person?
Thanks, that's interesting that even though your little guy had reflux he could still sleep through the night! Lucky you It was a peadiatrician that suggested the early solids and I think, for me, I'd take their word over a Cuidiu or LLL person. Lovely and helpful as they are they are not medically qualified and I'm all about that!
We've been thinking about in general anyway - he's a very hungry boy. We give him his medicine on a spoon dissolved into a paste and he's properly eating it off the spoon enthusiastically even though it tastes mank so I reckon he'll be ready for something a bit more solid in a few weeks. I was all set for BLW and avoiding all pastes and baby rice when pregnant but I think you just have to roll with what you get! We'll see anyway, I'm not sure what we're going to do yet.
We've tried putting him in his little carrycot tonight to sleep instead of his bigger crib to see if it'll help. He's got so good about most things, we're in a proper routine now. He sleeps 3 - 5 and then our evening routine starts and he goes down at about 8.30pm giving us time to ourselves. It's just at about 1am that he starts to wake up every 30 minutes.
aknitter - that sounds horrible It must be hard that the boob didn't comfort him. Normally it's the one thing we have up our sleeve to help us out
My LO is 12 weeks today which was my first breastfeeding goal. Early on I couldn't imagine getting this far with breastfeeding but now it's really easy so not giving up any time soon. Next goal is a holiday away at the end of October 0 -
MurdyWurdy wrote: »My LO is 12 weeks today which was my first breastfeeding goal. Early on I couldn't imagine getting this far with breastfeeding but now it's really easy so not giving up any time soon. Next goal is a holiday away at the end of October
It's great making different markers, congrats.
I thought I would fail spectacularly, but we made the 6 week mark last week. And you're 100% right on how easy it is, after the initial hiccups of course! 0 -
MurdyWurdy wrote: »Thanks, that's interesting that even though your little guy had reflux he could still sleep through the night! Lucky you It was a peadiatrician that suggested the early solids and I think, for me, I'd take their word over a Cuidiu or LLL person. Lovely and helpful as they are they are not medically qualified and I'm all about that!
We've been thinking about in general anyway - he's a very hungry boy. We give him his medicine on a spoon dissolved into a paste and he's properly eating it off the spoon enthusiastically even though it tastes mank so I reckon he'll be ready for something a bit more solid in a few weeks. I was all set for BLW and avoiding all pastes and baby rice when pregnant but I think you just have to roll with what you get! We'll see anyway, I'm not sure what we're going to do yet.
We've tried putting him in his little carrycot tonight to sleep instead of his bigger crib to see if it'll help. He's got so good about most things, we're in a proper routine now. He sleeps 3 - 5 and then our evening routine starts and he goes down at about 8.30pm giving us time to ourselves. It's just at about 1am that he starts to wake up every 30 minutes.
aknitter - that sounds horrible It must be hard that the boob didn't comfort him. Normally it's the one thing we have up our sleeve to help us out
My LO is 12 weeks today which was my first breastfeeding goal. Early on I couldn't imagine getting this far with breastfeeding but now it's really easy so not giving up any time soon. Next goal is a holiday away at the end of October
The only thing I would say is that a lot of the paediatricians are giving out old advise to people about when to wean, so I wouldn't take what they say as gospel. A lot of doctors / phn's etc. are either not getting up to date information, or else are failing to take it on board. Whatever works for you, go with, but I've heard from a lot of friends that weaning did nothing for reflux and the closer to 6 months you leave weaning, the better it is for a babies digestive system, so that has to have an effect ultimately on things like reflux. 2 good articles below on why to delay.
http://www.askdrsears.com/topics/feeding-infants-toddlers/starting-solids/6-reasons-delay-introducing-solid-food
http://kellymom.com/nutrition/starting-solids/delay-solids/0 -
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