Why is Brian Mcfadden a huge star in Australia,yet kind of a flop over here ?

lucozader

miss5

I would assume being with Delta Goodrem has aided his success.

scudzilla

A bit like Prince philip and the Queen, nobody knew who he was until he rode Lizzie

Bringthethunder

Because at the end of the day Aussies are just weird, look for Jedward to go platnium there soon...

Ozzie

Is he that big over there? Can't stand him myself.

Poly

Lets not look a gift horse in the mouth, we should thank the Aussies for taking him far away from our screens.

My only frear is that Australia is not far enough.

Michael B

Yeah when I was in Australia he was on the radio all the time. Deltra Goodrem is huge there so I presume it's mainly down to her. They're the golden couple over there.

xzanti

He's a prize tool..

Koloman

It's one of the great mysteries of our time along with the question "why are we here?" Although this question would be easier to find an answer to!

wobblyknees

His lyrics are poetic and beautiful.

LizT

wobblyknees wrote: »

His lyrics are poetic and beautiful.

Yep see what you mean.;) (i Hope you were being sarcastic!)

"then we'll invite the family round
and drink some english tea
then i raise up my finger
and watch football on tv"

Michael B

Can't blame him for leaving here really though can you with the attitudes people have against him.

Ally Dick

What a prat. He left Westlife to spend "more time with his family", then he walked away from his kids to chase some skirt around Oz. That song "Real To Me" is hyporcrisy of the highest order

seanybiker

Its not that he is a flop here. He just does more work in Australia is all. I think. Fair play to him for giving it a shot on his own. I actually liked one or two of his songs tbh. Would call meself a fan of his or anything but couldnt be bothered wasting me time giving out about him.

Cunsiderthis

Ally Dick wrote: »

What a prat. He left Westlife to spend "more time with his family", then he walked away from his kids to chase some skirt around Oz. That song "Real To Me" is hyporcrisy of the highest order

It's great to see irish begrudgery alive and well and calling a guy who has made a success abroad "a prat"

I'm sure he'd rather be a success in Australia, (population 22 million and a country which celebrates achievement), and a flop in ireland, than a success in ireland (population 4 million and a country where begrudgery rules and achievement is spat upon), and a flop in australia.

Well done to him and continued success!

Owen

Could be worse. I go to Poland a lot, and in every shopping centre and on the radio you're subjected to the aural rape that is Ronan Keating.

Ally Dick

Cunsiderthis wrote: »

It's great to see irish begrudgery alive and well and calling a guy who has made a success abroad "a prat"

I'm sure he'd rather be a success in Australia, (population 22 million and a country which celebrates achievement), and a flop in ireland, than a success in ireland (population 4 million and a country where begrudgery rules and achievement is spat upon), and a flop in australia.

Well done to him and continued success!

A success in Australia ? That's nothing to boast about. It's the home of the pub band. He's had one number one with Delta Goodrem and a no 5 album. Hardly stellar. I wish him nothing but bad luck for abandoning his two daughters

Cunsiderthis

Ally Dick wrote: »

A success in Australia ? That's nothing to boast about. It's the home of the pub band. He's had one number one with Delta Goodrem and a no 5 album. Hardly stellar. I wish him nothing but bad luck for abandoning his two daughters

I feel sad for you that you come over as such a begrudger, and hope that you can learn to celebrate success rather than come over as so bitter about someone elses's success.

Ally Dick

Cunsiderthis wrote: »

I feel sad for you that you come over as such a begrudger, and hope that you can learn to celebrate success rather than come over as so bitter about someone elses's success.

His success ? What success ? His career is nose diving in Australia. Look at his last single. It hit no 99 in the charts there. Are you related to him ?

Marcelproust

Ally Dick wrote: »

His success ? What success ? His career is nose diving in Australia. Look at his last single. It hit no 99 in the charts there. Are you related to him ?

I thought the name of this thread is "Why is Brian Mcfadden a huge star in Australia,yet kind of a flop over here"

Are you saying that anyone who is not a begrudger like you must be related to Brian Mcfadden?

I'd rather be brian Mcfadden and a flop in both australia and ireland rather than someone like you who seems to just get pleasure about being a begrudger.

wobblyknees

Ally Dick wrote: »

A success in Australia ? That's nothing to boast about. It's the home of the pub band. He's had one number one with Delta Goodrem and a no 5 album. Hardly stellar. I wish him nothing but bad luck for abandoning his two daughters

As much as I think he is a bit of a prat, and his music is ****, he went to Australia because he couldn't get enough work in Ireland. He travels back to see his kids all the time as far as I am aware. Nothing wrong with that as far as I am concerned. Your comment on the other hand. :rolleyes:

Ally Dick

Don't knock begrudgery. It has served us well for many a year

ejmaztec

wobblyknees wrote: »

As much as I think he is a bit of a prat, and his music is ****, he went to Australia because he couldn't get enough work in Ireland. He travels back to see his kids all the time as far as I am aware. Nothing wrong with that as far as I am concerned. Your comment on the other hand. :rolleyes:

Perhaps Delta didn't want to live here, and he knows where his bread's buttered? He probably couldn't get enough work anywhere, let alone here.

Ally Dick

Eh lads. We're talking about a millionaire many times over here ! He doesn't need to work. However, he does need to look after his two daughters - which he is not doing if he is living in Australia !

WindSock

lucozader wrote: »

Cunsiderthis

Ally Dick wrote: »

Eh lads. We're talking about a millionaire many times over here ! He doesn't need to work. However, he does need to look after his two daughters - which he is not doing if he is living in Australia !

It must be great to know best how other people should lead their lives, and not only to be aware of that but to offer, without even waiting to be asked, your advice about how best they should lead their lives.

No doubt you also welcome such advice, with open arms about your own life, when offered it by complete strangers.

Ally Dick

Cunsiderthis wrote: »

It must be great to know best how other people should lead their lives, and not only to be aware of that but to offer, without even waiting to be asked, your advice about how best they should lead their lives.

No doubt you also welcome such advice, with open arms about your own life, when offered it by complete strangers.

He's a big headed celebrity and a lousy father. He deserves to be knocked down off his pedestal

Koloman

Ally Dick wrote: »

He's a big headed celebrity and a lousy father. He deserves to be knocked down off his pedestal

I agree. Remember when Ryan Tubridy asked him about his kids on the Late Late? He gave a mealy mouthed answer as to why he was living in Oz when he should be nearer his kids over here. Especially when the mother of those kids can at best be described as unstable!

wobblyknees

Koloman wrote: »

I agree. Remember when Ryan Tubridy asked him about his kids on the Late Late? He gave a mealy mouthed answer as to why he was living in Oz when he should be nearer his kids over here. Especially when the mother of those kids can at best be described as unstable!

What did he say exactly?

ejmaztec

Ally Dick wrote: »

Eh lads. We're talking about a millionaire many times over here ! He doesn't need to work. However, he does need to look after his two daughters - which he is not doing if he is living in Australia !

If he's as good with money as he is with picking the mother of his children, he must be down to his last twenty Australian Dollars.

j1974

dont you know, it's down under, everythings upside down. Crap in Europe = Aussie gold. He thought he was going to be the robbie williams of West life. "Hey I'm an edgy undiscovered talent who wont be told what to do any longer". He's a dic*head and I loved seeing him squirm when Ryan tubridy asked him "if you care so much about your kids well being, why are you in Australia whilst their mam is doing coke of the living room table". He's got tons of clout if he wants them kids but unfortunately that's not condusive to an aussie pop lifestyle. I'm sure delta whats her name has a lot to do with him not wanting his kids in australia also. personl issues aside, his music is crap fullstop.

j1974

Ally Dick wrote: »

His success ? What success ? His career is nose diving in Australia. Look at his last single. It hit no 99 in the charts there. Are you related to him ?

Here! Here ! well said! clap clap clap;)

j1974

Ally Dick wrote: »

Eh lads. We're talking about a millionaire many times over here ! He doesn't need to work. However, he does need to look after his two daughters - which he is not doing if he is living in Australia !

he's no millionaire according to his last Late late interview. He told ryan tubridy that he'd have to get a job on a building site if he came home here, that's how good his career prospects are in UK/Ireland. I'd say if he has 1 million he's doing well. remember you have to pay child support in accordance to your net worth at the time I'm sure. He's not amking much from album sales I imagine.

j1974

wobblyknees wrote: »

What did he say exactly?

youtube it! he gave a sh*t excuse and even needed to bring his mam in for emotional support. he was going mad but tubridy just asked him the obvious.

wobblyknees

j1974 wrote: »

youtube it! he gave a sh*t excuse and even needed to bring his mam in for emotional support. he was going mad but tubridy just asked him the obvious.

I seen it at the time and remember it, I was wondering if you remembered what was actually said.

pikachucheeks

Ally Dick wrote: »

I wish him nothing but bad luck for abandoning his two daughters

Unless you know him personally - or know Kerry personally, you'll never know the full story regarding their marriage, their break-up or the story with their children, so, it's not fact that he abandoned his children - it's tabloid gossip.

In his own words, he went to Australia to get work, because his name was so tainted in Ireland.
Leaving Westlife clearly didn't do him the favours he thought it would and the press here produced stories that put him out of favour with the Irish public and essentially, ruined any chances he had of a solo career.

I watched the interview he did with Tubridy and I felt sorry for him. If he "abandoned" his children, it was because he had no choice. If he wanted any chance of providing for them, he had to leave the country, because Ireland turned on him.
Sure, he could have stayed ... but what would he have done? He'd certainly never work in showbiz again. The recession killed off most job prospects. So, the chances are, he would have either ended up on social welfare or in a low paying unskilled job, barely making ends meet (paying for rental of a house, providing funding for two young daughters, paying bills etc) - with the press continually on his back, dragging his name through the dirt even further.

I also feel bad for him because clearly, he hasn't got a good relationship with the mother of his children. As mentioned in the Tubridy interview, all contact between them is done through his mother. Whatever your feelings are about McFadden, that's a very sorry state for anyone to be in.

Cunsiderthis

pikachucheeks wrote: »

Unless you know him personally - or know Kerry personally, you'll never know the full story regarding their marriage, their break-up or the story with their children, so, it's not fact that he abandoned his children - it's tabloid gossip.

You are quite right, of course, and i dislike the bullying and intolerant tone of Ally Dick's posts as much as I laugh at his assumption that he "knows" about this guys life.

What he know about is, apparently, what he reads in the tabloids, and it seems to suit his mentality insofar as he likes to choose to believe it all and come here to demonstrate his lack of charity and insight, and to display his love of begrudgery. I have no idea who brian Mcfadden is, or who is wife is, or anything about him apart from that he seems to have been in Westlife.

pikachucheeks wrote: »

I also feel bad for him because clearly, he hasn't got a good relationship with the mother of his children. As mentioned in the Tubridy interview, all contact between them is done through his mother. Whatever your feelings are about McFadden, that's a very sorry state for anyone to be in.

While I agree with you that we should feel sympathy for someone in his position, thre appears to be a cadre here who are unable to feel any sympathy for anyone and seen to prefer, instead, to come here and give us all their exciting views about how dreadful everyone is, not realising that they really know nothing about those on which they pontificate beyond what the tabloids tell them, and they haven't yet worked out that the tabloids don't tell the truth about much.

wobblyknees

Cunsiderthis wrote: »

You are quite right, of course, and i dislike the bullying and intolerant tone of Ally Dick's posts as much as I laugh at his assumption that he "knows" about this guys life.

What he know about is, apparently, what he reads in the tabloids, and it seems to suit his mentality insofar as he likes to choose to believe it all and come here to demonstrate his lack of charity and insight, and to display his love of begrudgery. I have no idea who brian Mcfadden is, or who is wife is, or anything about him apart from that he seems to have been in Westlife.




While I agree with you that we should feel sympathy for someone in his position, thre appears to be a cadre here who are unable to feel any sympathy for anyone and seen to prefer, instead, to come here and give us all their exciting views about how dreadful everyone is, not realising that they really know nothing about those on which they pontificate beyond what the tabloids tell them, and they haven't yet worked out that the tabloids don't tell the truth about much.

Sounds like your typical modern day football fan.

fred funk }{

wobblyknees wrote: »

What did he say exactly?

I think he said something like he had to go abroad to find work in order to look after his kids financially, he was clearly very uncomfortable with the question. I thought is was a very good question considering at the time Kerry Katona was clearly not capable of looking after herself never mind their kids.

Tubridy made the point that if it was him he would be straight home to take care of the kids regardless of career, a point that I totally agreed with.

Koloman

fred funk }{ wrote: »

Tubridy made the point that if it was him he would be straight home to take care of the kids regardless of career, a point that I totally agreed with.

Exactly! When Brian was asked the question about his kids he turned the question back on Tubridy and asked him what would he do and Tubridy said he would do anything to see his kids. Tubs said he would give up his career to see his children. Brian went pretty quiet after that!

There is a small bit about the interview in this article below.

http://www.tribune.ie/archive/article/2009/sep/06/tubridy-plays-a-blinder-on-late-late-show/

This is the best quote from the article; "He tackled Bryan McFadden on the question everybody was thinking, but nobody has asked before: what is he doing in Australia when his children are in potential peril in the UK?"

ejmaztec

Cunsiderthis wrote: »

While I agree with you that we should feel sympathy for someone in his position, thre appears to be a cadre here who are unable to feel any sympathy for anyone and seen to prefer, instead, to come here and give us all their exciting views about how dreadful everyone is, not realising that they really know nothing about those on which they pontificate beyond what the tabloids tell them, and they haven't yet worked out that the tabloids don't tell the truth about much.

You seem to be pontificating that the tabloids don't tell the truth about much, but you can't possibly know this unless you're employed by the tabloids, and have examined each and every piece of information at their disposal.

Cunsiderthis

ejmaztec wrote: »

You seem to be pontificating that the tabloids don't tell the truth about much, but you can't possibly know this unless you're employed by the tabloids, and have examined each and every piece of information at their disposal.

Message boards are about expressing opinions, or as you prefer to put it "pontificating".

If your default position is to believe everything you read in the tabloid newspapers, until you have examined each and every piece of information at their disposal, or if you believe no one can have an opinion or view unless they are employed by the tabloids, then thats your opinion and I am sure we can all make up our own minds as to the accuracy of it.

Truth is an interesting concept. If a celebrities PR agent plants a story in the tabloids, is that the truth? I don't read the tabloids largely because it's obvious to anyone of even average intelligence that they are not truthful, and they are also nasty, vicious and unscrupulous, and i choose not to support financially that sort of thing.

ejmaztec

Cunsiderthis wrote: »

Message boards are about expressing opinions, or as you prefer to put it "pontificating".

If your default position is to believe everything you read in the tabloid newspapers, until you have examined each and every piece of information at their disposal, or if you believe no one can have an opinion or view unless they are employed by the tabloids, then thats your opinion and I am sure we can all make up our own minds as to the accuracy of it.

Truth is an interesting concept. If a celebrities PR agent plants a story in the tabloids, is that the truth? I don't read the tabloids largely because it's obvious to anyone of even average intelligence that they are not truthful, and they are also nasty, vicious and unscrupulous, and i choose not to support financially that sort of thing.

I don't think that you understood my post, and you also seem to have forgotten that you initially used the word "pontificating".

kippy

To be honest that Late Late show interview with Tubs really showed the guy up for what he is. In fairness to Tubs he did push him on the fact that he had pretty much "abandoned" his kids and that if he was serious about them he would work at almost anything to be near them.
The guy is a Class A toss pot from what I can see, if only for his "fatherly" exploits.

james finn

dont like the guy but i hate his ex more for using kids as a weapon which seems to be the norm

fontanalis

The man was delusional to think he'd have a career going on his own, as for marrying Kerry Katona!

james finn

id say he gets on better in another country because people tend to complain about everyone in this country.

Degsy

Cunsiderthis wrote: »

It's great to see irish begrudgery alive and well and calling a guy who has made a success abroad "a prat"

I'm sure he'd rather be a success in Australia, (population 22 million and a country which celebrates achievement), and a flop in ireland, than a success in ireland (population 4 million and a country where begrudgery rules and achievement is spat upon), and a flop in australia.

Well done to him and continued success!

I would go so far as to call him a Big Chinned Prat without a hint of begrudgery about it..the bloke is a tool.

kippy

james finn wrote: »

id say he gets on better in another country because people tend to complain about everyone in this country.

I wouldnt say that at all actually.
The Aussies will (I think they have already) grow tired of him eventually.

Richard Dower

He bonked a Limerick stripper....on his STAG night!, he's trash....just like Katona. He's living in Aussie to avoid tax + he dosen't want those kids.

I've no sympathy for any celebs, get a normal job or STFU!

chocgirl

Wouldn't have any sympathy for him at all, what's he doing in Australis when his children are in England with their druggie mother? Can't see Delta marrying him either, wouldn't hold my breath, she can only put if off so many times.