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Brown Bomber wrote: »Joel Rosenberg, conservative author, and former advisor to current Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu.
http://www.joshuafund.net/body_board_of_directors.html
He is also founder of The Joshua Fund
http://www.joshuafund.net/body_the_mission.html
The first page of his first novel-The Last Jihad-puts you inside the cockpit of a hijacked jet, coming in on a kamikaze attack into an American city, which leads to a war with Saddam Hussein over weapons of mass destruction. Yet it was written before 9/11, long before the actual war with Iraq.
His second thriller-The Last Days-opens with the death of Yasser Arafat and a U.S. diplomatic convoy ambushed in Gaza. Six days before The Last Days was published in hardcover, a U.S. diplomatic convoy was ambushed in Gaza. Thirteen months later, Yasser Arafat died.
The Ezekiel Option[/I] centers on a Russian dictator who forms a military alliance with the leaders of Iran who are feverishly pursuing nuclear weapons and threatening to wipe Israel off the face of the earth. On the very day it was published in June 2005, Iran elected a new leader who vowed to accelerate the country's nuclear program and later vowed to "wipe Israel off the map." Six months after the book was published, Moscow signed a $1 billion arms deal with Tehran.
The Copper Scroll is the fourth novel in the series...Another Dead Sea Scroll had been found, unlike any before it, describing unimaginable treasures worth untold billions buried in the hills east of Jerusalem and under the Holy City itself. In the years that followed, scholars came to believe that the Copper Scroll could be history's greatest treasure map, one that could not only lead to great wealth but pave the way to the building of the Third Jewish Temple. But the scroll's code has never been broken, and experts from all sides warn that any effort by Israel to rebuild their Temple in Jerusalem would unleash a war of biblical proportions. Saddam Hussein is gone. Yasser Arafat is dead. A new Iraq is rising. And now White House advisors Jon Bennett and Erin McCoy find themselves facing a terrifying new threat triggered by an ancient mystery.
http://www.joelrosenberg.com/about.asp
Im starting to see a pattern of movies and now books on 9-11 before it even happened.
Taken from wiki on Rosenberg.
"A Modern Nostradamus"
Rosenberg's novels have attracted those interested in Bible Prophecy, due to several of his fictional elements of his books that would occur after his writing of books. Nine months before the September 11th attacks, Rosenberg wrote a novel with a kamikaze plane attack on an American city. Five months before the 2003 invasion of Iraq, he wrote a novel about war with Saddam Hussein, the death of Yasser Arafat eight months before it occurred, a story with Russia, Iran, and Libya forming a military alliance against Israel occurring the date of publishing,[8] the rebuilding of the city of Babylon,[13] Iran vowing to have Israel "wiped off the face of the map forever" five months before Iranian President Ahmadinejad said the same,[14] and the discovery of huge amounths of oil and natural gas in Israel (which happened in January 2009).[15] The U.S. News & World Report have referred to him as a "Modern Nostradamus,"[16] although Rosenberg tries to play down those proclamations, stating that "I am not a clairvoyant, a psychic, or a 'Modern Nostradamus,' as some have suggested."[17] He gives the credit for his accurate predictions to studying Biblical prophecy and applying to the modern world."
Somehow i think he had a little more help than a bible
possibly just a really really really good researcher.
Or as the topic goes maybe it is all part of the terror acceptance program.0 -
to studying Biblical prophecy and applying to the modern world."
Somehow i think he had a little more help than a bible
(Sorry for taking your thread off topic previously)
This is where it starts to get interesting for me. Rosenberg was an advisor to Netanyahu in the late 90's. Netanyahu is also close friends with Larry Silverstein.
Also paid advisors to then PM Netanyahu were the authors of the Zionist think-thank who authored "A Clean Break" which was authored in 1996. It was an American group directed by future Bush appointee Richard Perle and contained amongst its signatories future Bush appointees Douglas Feith and Wurmser. Zionist neo-cons all, and all placed in crucial National Security positions in the Bush administration who pushed for the War in Iraq.
Netanyahu's think-thank proposed an increase in Israeli aggression and pre-emptive strikes on enemies to "secure the realm" (Israel). Crucial to this was the removal of Saddam Hussein.
Rosenberg also worked for Steve Forbes, of Forbes Magazine a PNAC signatory. PNAC, the We need a new Pearl Harbour to get what we want quickly Neo-Con group who also clamoured for the removal of Saddam Hussein.0 -
Another prophetic novel...http://www.amazon.com/Final-Jihad-When-Worst-Finally/dp/0964704811/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
Governor Keating had little time to relax upon taking office. Within three months of taking office, on April 19, the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City was destroyed in the Oklahoma City bombing, in which the lives of 168 Oklahomans were lost and over 800 people were injured. Coincidentally, the governor's brother, Martin Keating, had already written a novel about a man named Tom McVey that blew up said federal building. The book is still sold today and is called "The Final Jihad". The blast destroyed or damaged more than 300 buildings in the surrounding area, leaving several hundred people homeless and shutting down business.
For those that don't know the convicted terrorists name was Timmy McVeigh vs Tom McVey and Keating's book that predicted the Oaklahoma bombing was called "The Final Jihad" vs Rosenberg's that predicted 911 "The Last Jihad" - Incredible coincidences when taken alone; hard to believe when put together.
So how could Martin Keating have had foreknowledge?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_KeatingKeating was made a Special agent for the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Relocated to the West Coast, Keating was charged with investigating terrorism incidents in the area and other various duties. After years on the coast, Keating would return to Tulsa to become an Assistant District Attorney.
In 1973, Keating, under the Republican Party banner, was elected to the Oklahoma House of Representatives. He would only serve a single term in the House, until 1975, when he was elected to the Oklahoma Senate. He would serve in the Senate from 1975 until 1981, winning reelection in 1978. While in the Senate, Keating rose to become the highest ranking Republican as the Senate Minority Leader.
President of the United States Ronald Reagan to appoint Keating as the United States Attorney for the Northern District of Oklahoma. Keating served as the US Attorney from 1981 until 1985, becoming the chairman of all US Attorneys within that four year time. Following President Reagan’s reelection in 1984, Reagan once again tapped Keating to serve in the federal government.
Reagan appointed Keating to serve as an Assistant Secretary of the Treasury and later elevated him to United States Associate Attorney General, the third ranking official within the United States Department of Justice.
In his positions as Assistant Secretary of the Treasury and Associate Attorney General, Keating over saw both the Justice and Treasury departments’ law enforcement agencies. These included the United States Customs Service, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center, the Federal Bureau of Prisons, the United States Marshals service, the Immigration and Naturalization Service, all 94 United States Attorneys, the United States role in Interpol and the United States Secret Service.
During the 2000 presidential election, Keating, while still Governor of Oklahoma, was considered a potential candidate for the Republican nomination of Vice President of the United States under George W. Bush. After Bush chose Dick Cheney, and won the Presidential election, Keating was a contender for U.S. Attorney General in Bush’s administration. However, he was rejected when it was reported that from 1990 through 1997 Keating had accepted gifts of nearly $250,000³ from mutual fund pioneer Jack Dreyfus.
All of the above mentioned Frank Keating is the author Martin Keating's brother. Frank Keating was Governor of Oaklahoma at the time of the bombing, was a Former FBI agent who specialised in terrorism, who oversaw the United States Secret Service and was connected high enough to the Bush administration to be considered for the VP position.
What an unbelievable coincidence that his brother would somehow have wrote a fictional account of a bomb attack in Oaklahoma City by a terrorist called "Tom McVey" before an actual bomb attack in Oaklahoma City by a Tim McVeigh.
Why can't none of these hugely authors be regular folk with no connections to world leaders?
An aside- A campaign contribution made by Edward Norton to Rahm Emanuel.
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It's not that much of a coincidence when the book is released a year after the incident. It would seem more likely that the names would be changed to be more similar to real events because it would have more Impact on the readers. Plus having a brother who is involved in the whole affair would give him access to more information about it.Brown Bomber wrote: »Another prophetic novel...http://www.amazon.com/Final-Jihad-When-Worst-Finally/dp/0964704811/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
For those that don't know the convicted terrorists name was Timmy McVeigh vs Tom McVey and Keating's book that predicted the Oaklahoma bombing was called "The Final Jihad" vs Rosenberg's that predicted 911 "The Last Jihad" - Incredible coincidences when taken alone; hard to believe when put together.
So how could Martin Keating have had foreknowledge?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Keating
All of the above mentioned Frank Keating is the author Martin Keating's brother. Frank Keating was Governor of Oaklahoma at the time of the bombing, was a Former FBI agent who specialised in terrorism, who oversaw the United States Secret Service and was connected high enough to the Bush administration to be considered for the VP position.
What an unbelievable coincidence that his brother would somehow have wrote a fictional account of a bomb attack in Oaklahoma City by a terrorist called "Tom McVey" before an actual bomb attack in Oaklahoma City by a Tim McVeigh.
Why can't none of these hugely authors be regular folk with no connections to world leaders?
An aside- A campaign contribution made by Edward Norton to Rahm Emanuel.
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Sometimes coincedence,sometimes not i guess.
I havent searched about Rosenburg too much myself but he did seem to write an awful lot of coincedences.Unless im mistaken.
The coincedences in fight club and those other movies especially the one pretty much about a 9-11 incident but made a few months before it happened,still has me under the impression some government or group are using the media for more than what is widely known.
Thanks for that post studiorat i see your point if those stories are true.
I do still think that some times its not just coincedence.
The Edward Norton theory might just be that.As so far i cant find much more on him or connections he might have to propoganda.
So far i have.
Possible references to 9-11/illuminatti in Fight Club.
Many movies about split personality/duality.
One movie so far with a speech in it about Israel.(Also havent found many Israeli connections with Norton..unless i have forgotten)
Did somebody say he went to yale or harvard? which one has the ole skull and bones?
These i understand could be coincedence.But until i get rid of the could i need more info 0 -
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Havent seen much of Alan watts stuff to be honest.but i am a little eager to watch a lecture if anyone has a long one relating to the media and/or mind control.
This is the video i was thinking of.
This was aired in america around march or so 2001.
Somebody seemed to have gotten alot of guesses or maybe washington or whoever got the idea from the movie?
I think thought from march to sept is too short a time to plan that attack successfully like they did.0 -
Havent seen much of Alan watts stuff to be honest.but i am a little eager to watch a lecture if anyone has a long one relating to the media and/or mind control.
Lecture is a bit strong. Try episode...
Anyway, the Lone Gunmen. Looks like a great show pity it was pulled. My guess is if it influenced anyone it influenced the conspiracy theorists who cooked up the 911 inside job story in the first place. The demographic is perfect for it. The motive is straightforward. Simple as...
Around the time of the 911 bombing I think Bizzare magazine did a spread on all the references to planes crashing into the WTC. It included art, 2 album covers one for the Coup, I can't remember the other some punk band.
Here's an add for Pakistan Airlines from 1979 :
Here's another :
And another :
The thing is the WTC was an international icon in the same vein as the statue of liberty and the Empire State building, which itself was hit by a plane in 1945. King Kong even climbed the WTC in the 1976 remake.
It was in the international psyche through film and all the rest, an obvious target an attack on it was as big as blowing up the Empire State or the Statue of Liberty or even the White House in terms of the effect it would have on the world. It had been attacked before with an attempt to bring it down.0 -
Havent seen much of Alan watts stuff to be honest.but i am a little eager to watch a lecture if anyone has a long one relating to the media and/or mind control.
This is the video i was thinking of.
This was aired in america around march or so 2001.
Somebody seemed to have gotten alot of guesses or maybe washington or whoever got the idea from the movie?
I think thought from march to sept is too short a time to plan that attack successfully like they did.
Hi Again Torakx - again nothing coincidental about that link I posted you a few thread back re: Lone Gunman / 911 similarities. These are done through the medium of television as a way of mass conditioning people to acceptance of that type of reality. As for all those people knocking Alan Watt - lay off, the man is a genius and has woken a lot of people to the evil machinations of new world order. Getting back to the lone gunman episode - it's producer spoke in interviews of how the CIA came to him offering him big money to include that particular plot. Here is an article worth checking out.
ctor Dean Haglund On the CIA, Hollywood and 9/11
Prisonplanet | December 16 2005
Alex Jones was joined in studio yesterday by actor, comedian and former star of The X-Files and The Lone Gunmen, Dean Haglund.
Haglund was very forthright with his comments on topics such as martial law in America and new developments in the September 11th cover-up.
Prisonplanet.tv subscribers click here to listen to the interview in full.
Haglund commented that he first became aware of Alex and the larger movement against the New World Order when he was working on the X-files and the Lone Gunmen due to the fact that the writers would often listen to shows like Alex's to get inspiration for the plot lines and characters.
He believed, like many others, that the spin off The Lone Gunmen was actually a better show than the X-files because it was moving away from "the ghosts and the poo monsters" and more towards the government conspiracy theme. The TV Show certainly had an impact on someone because it was axed after one season despite the fact that ratings were high and the plot lines were cutting edge. Someone wanted it gone, particularly in the wake of 9/11.
Haglund went on to describe the pilot episode of the Gunmen in which the three character basically had to stop a plane from flying into the World Trade Centre. This was aired eight months before the event actually happened. Haglund's character manages to gain control of the aircraft seconds before it hits and averts disaster.
"Part of the plot, as it said in the script was that this event would be used to start an international war on terror." he commented.
A small faction within the government wanted to carry this out in order to create a new enemy and prevent the arms trade going flat after the end of the Cold War. The cover to make everyone stand down in the episode and allow the attack to succeed was the wargames scenario that also actually happened on 9/11.
Click here to watch the Lone Gunmen WTC clip.
The show was used to subconsciously manipulate people to believe that if these events did actually happen, it would be like a film, not a part of reality, therefore we should not worry too much. Anyone who would dare to say that the Government were responsible for such terrorist attacks would immediately be branded a "lunatic conspiracy theorist, like those guys from the X-Files."
Dean Haglund confirmed that government officials would regularly attend Hollywood parties and submit ideas to be planted in film and TV scripts. We have also previously covered the reports that the Pentagon will lavish certain projects with money and equipment should they portray them in a good light. On the other hand they will not help any project that is in any way antiwar.
It is common knowledge in Hollywood that if you want access to military bases and military technology and hardware, as a movie producer you have to bend over backwards to the Pentagon and allow them majority control in scriptwriting.
Pentagon support translates into millions of dollars shaved off the film budget. In many cases, the absence of that support means the film doesn't get made. This means that movie producers are at the mercy of backroom DoD directors who can effectively re-write historical events and broadcast them to millions as accurate depictions of the real thing.
Portraying war or the military in a bad light in any scene merits an immediate blacklisting from the Pentagon. If the film isn't an out and out recruiting campaign then they're not interested.
"These movies cost twenty, sixty million dollars to make, that money doesn't come from some guy down the street out of his check book, these come from huge venture capitalists that have huge corporate interests." Haglund commented.
In the coming months we are to be bombarded with films about 9/11 and Iraq that will tow the party line.
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The coincedences in fight club and those other movies especially the one pretty much about a 9-11 incident but made a few months before it happened,still has me under the impression some government or group are using the media for more than what is widely known.
The U.S. won the Cold War in large part through its soft power -- spread not only by government institutions like Radio Free Europe but also by Hollywood movies, pop music and even ads for jeans and soft drinks
http://www.cfr.org/publication/6916/force_of_friendly_persuasion.html
The success of soft power heavily depends on the actor’s reputation within the international community, as well as the flow of information between actors. Thus, soft power is often associated with the rise of globalization and neoliberal international relations theory. Popular culture and media is regularly identified as a source of soft power
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Here studiorat maybe you should take a look at the link -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_bPQ4Hw1C8
Peace.
Yup! That's exactly what I was talking about. Watch very carefully. At 2'10 he already has the caller cut off and says, "how dare you imply that we were involved in the attacks".
The caller actually suggested that he was profiteering off the conspiracy theory business surrounding 911. Not at actual attacks themselves. Jones has the question spun in two minutes flat, pretty impressive. Then there's an edit at 2'23" presumably while the advertising goes out across the affiliate stations.
If Alex Jones really believed what he says why is he sitting on his ass making films and radio programs? He rants about conspiracy theories, never about civil rights. It's all about free speech , gun rights and non-government intrusion. Real ya-hoo stuff, no wonder he got his start defending David Koresh and his cult.
This is the best ever...
Also check out Jones Y2K show. :rolleyes: What happend there ha ha ha!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRRUMmnJTrI
10 years ago none of it happened. In fact it wasn't even happening when he reported it, telling people that nuclear power stations are dropping like flies and the army is moving into downtown Austin. It's a real hoot! Loon!
Ever wonder why he's always trying to sell water filters, that supposedly filter out flouride. They don't but he doesn't let on! Does he own the company by any chance?
Here's another idea of what a prick Jones is. Get this:In May of 2007, the un-moderated PrisonPlanet.tv forums opened to paying members of PrisonPlanet.tv. I happened to be one of the original posters in these forums. There I came in contact with a few people whom I still talk to today. One of them is a WizardofOswald.com member; one “Francis Dade.” Now Francis Dade is a southern gentleman, and he was chastised by Alex Jones live on the air, for daring to defend the anonymity of pp.tv members.
In defense of this anonymity, demanded by most pp.tv members–which was null and void if your membership ran out (in other words, your real name would appear on your posts if your account was ended)–Francis Dade called into the Alex Jones show. The forums were un-moderated, which meant we couldn’t ask a moderator to help us fix any problems we had. we tried many avenues to get Jones’ attention without success, and calling in the show seemed the only possible avenue left.
A few of the members got through to the show, only to get berated and hung up on by Jones on air. But Jones was slightly thrown off by Francis Dade’s gentlemanly manner, and decided to let him speak. Francis Dade explained the situation, and Jones’ reaction was to scream at him that this was a non-issue, and there was nothing he could do about it. Francis Dade persisted, and Jones responded by calling his internet tech live on air to tell him condescendingly to “pull” the pp.tv forums and delete everything. Needless to say, many subscriptions were canceled directly after this incident, and some have even made it their mission in life to expose Alex Jones as a money-grubbing opportunist and scam artist.0 -
Yup! That's exactly what I was talking about. Watch very carefully. At 2'10 he already has the caller cut off and says, "how dare you imply that we were involved in the attacks".
The caller actually suggested that he was profiteering off the conspiracy theory business surrounding 911. Not at actual attacks themselves. Jones has the question spun in two minutes flat, pretty impressive. Then there's an edit at 2'23" presumably while the advertising goes out across the affiliate stations.
If Alex Jones really believed what he says why is he sitting on his ass making films and radio programs? He rants about conspiracy theories, never about civil rights. It's all about free speech , gun rights and non-government intrusion. Real ya-hoo stuff, no wonder he got his start defending David Koresh and his cult.
This is the best ever...
Also check out Jones Y2K show. :rolleyes: What happend there ha ha ha!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRRUMmnJTrI
10 years ago none of it happened. In fact it wasn't even happening when he reported it, telling people that nuclear power stations are dropping like flies and the army is moving into downtown Austin. It's a real hoot! Loon!
Ever wonder why he's always trying to sell water filters, that supposedly filter out flouride. They don't but he doesn't let on! Does he own the company by any chance?
Here's another idea of what a prick Jones is. Get this:
You forget to mention the fact that he announced weeks before that the American govt was going to stage a false flag attack on the twin towers and then blame it on their CIA asset OBL. The guy has done sterling work educating people about real history and is one of the main reasons behind this exponential global awakening that is occurring. If you looked at the link I sent you Alex quite clearly explains that what he is doing is both a threat to himself and his family etc. Their is nothing expedient or self aggrandizing about it. He strikes me as a man of integrity and principal who wants his country back and run on the principals of the American constitution -pretty noble aspirations in my book. The Alan Watt video you sent in another link is laughably edited in a way to make him look bad. I dont understand what your problem is with these guys. As for his water filters - I have one, it is a dehumidifier and works by collecting moisture in the air converting it into water- no fluoride. You have no proof either that he owns this company. It is very easy to engage in ad hominen attacks on an individual and not engage in the real issue. It appears that you have some sort of irrational and personal vendetta against Alex Jones/ Alan Watt which is badly skewing your ability to contribute anything of construct to this forum. Take care, Chris. ;-)0 -
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