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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,787 ✭✭✭g5fd6ow0hseima


    Would you pay for a bag of pure cocaine lads?

    C'mon, we all have our vices.... :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭Icky Thump


    anyone here who has been to the likes of amsterdam will agree that these girls are AMAZING looking. they are practically glamour models. now while i have no prob pulling a bird it is not every day you pull someone that unbelievably hot.

    in amsterdam they are all clean. they must get check ups all the time and have to be certified by a doc. they are even in a union!!!!

    i have no problem paying for it but obviouly it just takes some common sense. if you are in some dirty alley way and stuble accross a hooker then noooooooooooooooooooooo. if its a professional place then yea why not.

    it is the oldest profession in the world. im not talking about sex trafficing im not talking about practical rape. im talking about consentual sex for a fee.

    you could after all go to a bar and pay for drinks for a bird all night and end up with your hand alone in bed.

    my motto is drink lots and ride lots. life is too short to pretend to have morals.

    its well known presidents, queens, kings and polititians have used this service all the way through history. hell even priests sometimes gave the couple of coins when they finished;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭Icky Thump


    kotva wrote: »
    I read most of previous comments and have to say same bad (but truth):
    Irish (british) women are very laidback with sex and you realy don't have to pay for it. They open legs so easily.

    british yes

    irish depends.

    some places in ireland specially south southwest the birds are totally stuck up. they will try to get you to buy drink for the night then they piss off with some bloke who looks like jedward


    we all pay for it in some way. and as for the bloke saying he doesnt need it that badly......................... youve obviously never had great sex with a 5ft 8, size 6 latino;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Icky Thump wrote: »
    british yes

    irish depends.

    some places in ireland specially south southwest the birds are totally stuck up. they will try to get you to buy drink for the night then they piss off with some bloke who looks like jedward


    we all pay for it in some way. and as for the bloke saying he doesnt need it that badly......................... youve obviously never had great sex with a 5ft 8, size 6 latino;)

    Specifically South Southwest? I heard the North Northwest girls are all mad for it though


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    Icky Thump wrote: »

    some places in ireland specially south southwest the birds are totally stuck up. they will try to get you to buy drink for the night then they piss off with some bloke who looks like jedward


    just because a woman does not want to sleep with you does after you have plied her with drink does not make her stuck up. ;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    Do you normally only have sex with someone you love and who loves you?

    Can't speak for anyone else, but that's what I do anyhow. Never been into casual sex and have only slept with one person who I wasn't in a serious relationship with.

    I was actually going to start this thread, have just spent a few days in Siem Reap where the bars are pretty much full of incredible looking girls who'll sleep with you for 20 dollars. I didn't go with any of them, just seemed so pathetic to see these young women faking interest in 60 year Australians and drunk backpackers. However, two of the guys I was with went with some, the next morning one of the guys was complaining his prostitute wasn't very into the blowjob she gave him... Not sure what he expected to be honest, i doubt it was the highlight of her night.

    That being said, I'm in a long term relationship and have offers from female friends for no strings sex if I want it, I guess I've never really had to consider using a prostitute.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭SLUSK


    I consider it to be my birthright to go to poor countries and sleep with prostitutes. I see nothing wrong with this.


  • Registered Users Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    SLUSK wrote: »
    I consider it to be my birthright to go to poor countries and sleep with prostitutes. I see nothing wrong with this.

    Those prostitutes probably consider it their birthright to do something with their lives instead of being sex workers for guys who cant form a real relationship with an actual woman.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    SLUSK wrote: »
    I consider it to be my birthright to go to poor countries and sleep with prostitutes. I see nothing wrong with this.

    I don't see it as being a question of right or wrong, tbh. There's worse ways to spend money or earn it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭SLUSK


    krudler wrote: »
    Those prostitutes probably consider it their birthright to do something with their lives instead of being sex workers for guys who cant form a real relationship with an actual woman.
    Well they don't have to sleep with me if they don't want to, guess they like to make money though.


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  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    SLUSK wrote: »
    I consider it to be my birthright to go to poor countries and sleep with prostitutes. I see nothing wrong with this.

    You genuinely had me believing you weren't a troll in the other thread!
    Well done for fooling us.

    Ah 'twas entertaining all the same :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    SLUSK wrote: »
    I consider it to be my birthright to go to poor countries and sleep with prostitutes. I see nothing wrong with this.

    So it's a power thing?


  • Registered Users Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    SLUSK wrote: »
    Well they don't have to sleep with me if they don't want to, guess they like to make money though.

    you'd have to be a fairly sad case for a prostitute to not want to sleep with you, and I doubt most of them "want" to sleep with the vast majority of their clients. you said yourself you go to poor countries, chances are these women dont have anything else to do aside from sleep with people to earn a living as they have no other oppurtunities


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭SLUSK


    You genuinely had me believing you weren't a troll in the other thread!
    Well done for fooling us.

    Ah 'twas entertaining all the same :pac:
    I am being completly honest. Obviously I would never say this to people I know because it would hurt my standing in society. Most people seem to consider me to be a respectable man from a good family.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    I have paid for sex in the past when I was younger..not because I was desperate but just out of curiosity. I found the buzz and excitement of getting a prostitute far better than the actual experience itself...

    Nowadays I am much happier going for an hour long Thai massage and hand relief every few weeks...I have a regular masseuse I visit so it is very relaxed and we both know the story..:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    krudler wrote: »
    you'd have to be a fairly sad case for a prostitute to not want to sleep with you, and I doubt most of them "want" to sleep with the vast majority of their clients. you said yourself you go to poor countries, chances are these women dont have anything else to do aside from sleep with people to earn a living as they have no other oppurtunities

    Work is work, how many people "want" to work in an office all day, or down a coal mine or wherever.

    I agree wrt to the lack of opportunities but we don't live in a dream world where we can end poverty overnight. If you do care about these things, donate to the relevant charities.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,272 ✭✭✭Deedsie


    I couldnt pay for it, "the hunt" is half the fun. Seeing a woman you like and putting yourself out there and eventually being with her is brilliant. Gives you serious confidence.

    I dont see anything wrong with it. Just not for me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    SLUSK wrote: »
    Well they don't have to sleep with me if they don't want to, guess they like to make money though.

    A but Mr Slusk-reading your other thread - you dont have a girlfriend and wont pay western prices so when you do travel you are taking advantage of the relative difference in prices in the economies. You also have the cost of your trip in terms flights, food , accomadation.

    To get sex in the West on your terms where you live you would probably need to be an escort yourself and need to take the type of woman who would pay for your services,go for a woman with special tastes and who wanted to be treated badly (and they are out there but may be abit weird) or get into a relationship with say an older woman who will pay the bills.

    So in your situation you have little choice but to travel abroad and you have a physical need and the lady a financial need. You are paying for her time at the going rate. The money is good money where she lives. The power you feel is just like a patron of a resterant buying a meal -except the commodity is sex.

    The other aspect is that when you go on a sex trip you have sex for a few weeks and go home again and have to wait till next year and save up till the next trip.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Who said anything about having to?

    What about as an occasional indulgence in a unique experience?

    I think if it's not a case of being desperate, then it would be a scenario much like Slusk paints, one where it's about exerting your notions of "power" and "superiority" over another.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    I think if it's not a case of being desperate, then it would be a scenario much like Slusk paints, one where it's about exerting your notions of "power" and "superiority" over another.

    Whats with the whole superiority thing. Not to much different to asking someone to wear a nurses uniform. Its a little game that she goes thru as part of the transaction.

    Not to different to Max Mosley and the 5 prostitutes and the Nazi sex game.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/formula_1/article3649197.ece

    They are punters and paying for a service.

    If they paid to get spanked -the girls would spank them.

    Nothing superior there I'm afraid.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    I agree. ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    I actually find this thread amusing. How many regular users are going to come on here and say yes.

    Their is a huge sex industry in Ireland and abroad.

    That infers there is a huge demand.

    I'm in my 20's and scoring all round me.

    I'm sure my attitude's will be different in 20/30 years time.

    I'm in the middle on this one. Sex is a commodity. I'm sure there are trafficked girls and that's terrible but I have a feeling that it's a conscious decision by a lot of girls. Heck there was a PI thread a while back of an Irish girl who was considering going on the game to pay off her student loans.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭Herbal Deity


    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    I think if it's not a case of being desperate, then it would be a scenario much like Slusk paints, one where it's about exerting your notions of "power" and "superiority" over another.
    Do you really have such a black and white view of sex?

    What if you're paying a prostitute to dominate you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob



    What if you're paying a prostitute to dominate you?

    That to me would suggest self confidence issues. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm



    I'm in the middle on this one. Sex is a commodity. I'm sure there are trafficked girls and that's terrible but I have a feeling that it's a conscious decision by a lot of girls.

    I somehow think there are a lot less trafficked girls during the recession. I have a feeling you might be right and its like as its like drug couriers- its a personal choice.

    Also, working in McDonalds is a personal choice and I would have a lot more respect with someone who made that career choice.

    Heck there was a PI thread a while back of an Irish girl who was considering going on the game to pay off her student loans.

    Maybe so - I didn't see the thread but if you post in PI about it you can imagine her heart wasn't in it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 891 ✭✭✭redfacedbear


    While I believe that Prostitution should be legalised I have always said that I would never consider using one myself.

    However something my wife said got me thinking recently. It's highly hypothetical but still...

    She told me that if she was ever to suffer an injury/disease that meant she was physically still alive but mentally absent - e.g. Alzheimers, severe brain injury etc, she would not mind if I sought other female companionship. Subject to some certain conditions - that I come and visit her on occasion, that I give our daughters a real sense of who she was and that the other woman is not a certain lunatic 'friend' of hers :pac:.

    If this situation was to occur, I'd be a financially crippled lone parent and I can't see how I'd be able to have the social outlets to develop such a relationship. Not to mention, as all I'd have to offer is a 'permanent girlfriend with no upgrades while the missus is still alive' relationship I can't see me being seen a real catch either ;).

    Therefore I can conceive of circumstances where paying for sex might be an option. Of course at that point I'd have to consider all the other issues - exploitation, stds, mental health etc etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭SLUSK


    Please don't call them prostitutes it sounds a little bit degrading. I prefer to think of them as "midnight company providers" and "angels working the back streets".


  • Registered Users Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    SLUSK wrote: »
    Please don't call them prostitutes it sounds a little bit degrading. I prefer to think of them as "midnight company providers" and "angels working the back streets".

    Chicks with dicks is probably more apt in Thailand


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,373 ✭✭✭Dr Galen


    This is meant to be a serious discussion.

    No more of the AH type replies please people. Either add something to the discussion or simply don't post

    Cheers

    MM


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,213 ✭✭✭PrettyBoy


    SLUSK wrote: »
    Please don't call them prostitutes it sounds a little bit degrading. I prefer to think of them as "midnight company providers" and "angels working the back streets".

    <SNIP>

    Mod Note

    Personal Abuse isn't tolerated here PrettyBoy

    The golden rule of attack the post no the poster applies

    Cheers

    MM


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