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Prostitution

  • 08-03-2010 6:31pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,213 ✭✭✭


    This is a spin-off from the thread regarding how much money you spend on your girlfriend. The OP gave the impression that if he had to spend more than €500 on his girlfriend annually then he would dump her and go back to using prostitutes in Thailand. Of course there were plenty of responses and one of the posters said this:
    There's a lot of people in here on their high horses with regards to prostitution.

    Now, this thread is here to get some kind of idea on how everyone here feels about prostitution. Have you every paid for sex? If not, would you ever consider doing it or are you completely against it? Any views at all regarding the subject are welcome.

    I have never personally paid for sex but I know people that have and, to some extent, I can see the why they do. You're on holiday and you have a few drinks on you and there's a gorgeous woman that will go home with you there and then - no effort required, just money.

    I can understand the appeal, but I would never compare my GF to a prostitute.

    The poll is anonymous of course.

    Have you ever paid for sex? 98 votes

    Yes.
    0% 0 votes
    No, but I would consider it in certain circumstances.
    37% 37 votes
    No, I would never even consider it.
    62% 61 votes


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭force majeure


    Well lets see now, did I ever, would I might I.
    No... no and no, thats not a boast off pillar off society or anything as I'm just too much off a nervy guy... and Thailand, who needs to go their.:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭SLUSK


    I have paid for sex with about 15 different women. Slept with one who was NOT a prostitute.


  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Hmmm, I don't think the poll will give you a good idea.

    There are plenty of men (and women) who would never consider paying for sex, but that just means it's not for them. They may have absolutely nothing against prostitution.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Never paid. In a hypothetical world, where hookers were hot and clean, then I'd have no problems paying for it! But that's never going to happen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭Herbal Deity


    Never have. Maybe never will, but went for the second option.

    I'd perhaps pay for a unique experience, maybe to try something unusual that you wouldn't get to try otherwise. Of course, the experience of paying for sex could fall into this "unusual" category anyway.

    I wouldn't pay for sex for a sexual fix, as a substitute for conventional means. I also would be concerned about STIs and the welfare of the women involved.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Never have and never would, I just think there is something incredibly demeaning about having to pay for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    Never have and never would, I just think there is something incredibly demeaning about having to pay for it.

    Unless you're an ugly bloke.

    I wouldnt myself but I can see why someone would, people do get lonely, men and women, so why not just pay to have someone give you the attention that you cant get elsewhere?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭Snowie


    Nah to me yeah there protitues, what ever you want to call it. I dont htink I could....
    Where forplay is inovolved with money it just it sounds wrong on many levels I mean useually in my own experences sex has come from passion or lust useually but there wouldnt be any of that with a prostitute so It would be pretty miningless to sleep with a prostitute well id find it difficult.

    Granted im shure they can act but it would be in the back of my mind your paying for this which is pointless well to me....

    As others havd said id be concerned about stis etc and just it don't seem all that worth it...

    besides if paying between 150 and 240 for an hour of a womans time serously theres other things i would like :D I cheacked the prices online its a bit mad... and LZ5by5 made a real good point...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    krudler wrote: »
    Unless you're an ugly bloke.

    I wouldnt myself but I can see why someone would, people do get lonely, men and women, so why not just pay to have someone give you the attention that you cant get elsewhere?

    I haven't been blessed in that department and I still never would. :) Knowing the person doesn't have any personal interest in me would give me no satisfaction unfortunately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    I guess in this age when adultfriendfinder and similar sites are around its easier for people to meet for no strings sex without paying for it, a mate of mine has absolutely zero confidence with women no matter how much we try to get him talking to them or vice versa, wouldnt surprise me if he's been to a hooker, he hasnt had sex with a girl (that we know of) in nearly 10 years, ouch :(


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭Herbal Deity


    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    Never have and never would, I just think there is something incredibly demeaning about having to pay for it.
    Who said anything about having to?

    What about as an occasional indulgence in a unique experience?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Dont we all wind up paying for sex in one way or another? mental anguish, jealousy, broken hearts, arguments, commiting ourselves etc etc

    At least with a prostitute you cut through all the bs and get right to the point (bah dum tsh!)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,492 ✭✭✭Thomas828


    Nope, wouldn't do it. I would be too inhibited. Besides, there are better ways to spend money than on a night of sex with a woman you don't love and who doesn't love you.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Thomas828 wrote: »
    Nope, wouldn't do it. I would be too inhibited. Besides, there are better ways to spend money than on a night of sex with a woman you don't love and who doesn't love you.
    Do you normally only have sex with someone you love and who loves you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,339 ✭✭✭congo_90


    I don't like the idea of paying (personally) due to the fact that I can (when lucky) get my bit for free. Albeit calling a cab the next morning :rolleyes:

    I do know people who have used prostitutes. I was approached at a young age by prostitutes in a not so pleasing manner but that's not for discussion here

    If you want to use prostitutes by all means go ahead. It doesn't bother me in the slightest with some exceptions as to why the prostitute is in the particular profession.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,665 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    Not a very all encompassing poll. I've given payment for sexual favours but never with a prostitute.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    I would never pay for sex, I don't need it that badly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭kotva


    I read most of previous comments and have to say same bad (but truth):
    Irish (british) women are very laidback with sex and you realy don't have to pay for it. They open legs so easily.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    I have never paid but I was friendly with 2 working girls years back. I was probably the only person on the street who didnt know what they did for a living until I was invited to a party by them.

    Only recently, speaking to a friend of mine he dropped a clanger that he had worked as an escort for elderly and not so elderly women during his college years right here in Dublin.

    I dont think its hugely immoral either to work at it or patronise it but you probably would need a very strong personality to deal with it -if you were a sex worker. Not something i could have done.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 109 ✭✭ronaldoshaky


    kotva wrote: »
    I read most of previous comments and have to say same bad (but truth):
    Irish (british) women are very laidback with sex and you realy don't have to pay for it. They open legs so easily.

    lol. is that a fact of life? I think they are the opposite. Very stuck up.

    hmmm. maybe I need to lower my standards. hahahaha. :eek:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Thomas828 wrote: »
    Nope, wouldn't do it. I would be too inhibited. Besides, there are better ways to spend money than on a night of sex with a woman you don't love and who doesn't love you.

    Yeah, like picking up some random person in a bar, which is something that thousands of people do every other weekend around the country, love and sex arent always connected


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    kotva wrote: »
    I read most of previous comments and have to say same bad (but truth):
    Irish (british) women are very laidback with sex and you realy don't have to pay for it. They open legs so easily.

    They'll love you over at tLL :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,201 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Do you normally only have sex with someone you love and who loves you?

    Don't know if the quotee will answer, but this is very much my thinking on it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    krudler wrote: »
    , love and sex arent always connected

    Thats down to the individual - i know some people who cant do casual relationships - of both genders.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭Novella


    kotva wrote: »
    I read most of previous comments and have to say same bad (but truth):
    Irish (british) women are very laidback with sex and you realy don't have to pay for it. They open legs so easily.

    I have never actually lol-ed before due to a post on Boards, so congratulations!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,904 ✭✭✭iptba


    Hmmm, I don't think the poll will give you a good idea.

    There are plenty of men (and women) who would never consider paying for sex, but that just means it's not for them. They may have absolutely nothing against prostitution.
    Don't know if there have been polls in the past but to get a slightly clearer picture of the percentages on the issue, it might have been good if the word men had been added to the poll question. There are plenty of female readers of the GC which might result in slightly altered figures. (Of course, the ladies could still vote if the wording was changed if they felt so inclined).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I went for the second option. Married about 15 years. I'd pay for for a woman for a threesome, or for another man for my wife, if she wife was up for either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭Monkeybonkers


    krudler wrote: »
    Unless you're an ugly bloke.

    Or an ugly bird:http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055815679

    Although I wouldn't necessarily say that all people who use prostitutes, male or female, are ugly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,213 ✭✭✭PrettyBoy


    humberklog wrote: »
    I've given payment for sexual favours but never with a prostitute.

    They were hardly favours if you had to pay for them.


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,665 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    PrettyBoy wrote: »
    They were hardly favours if you had to pay for them.

    Part payment/ part favour. Semantics will get you everywhere.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,787 ✭✭✭g5fd6ow0hseima


    Would you pay for a bag of pure cocaine lads?

    C'mon, we all have our vices.... :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭Icky Thump


    anyone here who has been to the likes of amsterdam will agree that these girls are AMAZING looking. they are practically glamour models. now while i have no prob pulling a bird it is not every day you pull someone that unbelievably hot.

    in amsterdam they are all clean. they must get check ups all the time and have to be certified by a doc. they are even in a union!!!!

    i have no problem paying for it but obviouly it just takes some common sense. if you are in some dirty alley way and stuble accross a hooker then noooooooooooooooooooooo. if its a professional place then yea why not.

    it is the oldest profession in the world. im not talking about sex trafficing im not talking about practical rape. im talking about consentual sex for a fee.

    you could after all go to a bar and pay for drinks for a bird all night and end up with your hand alone in bed.

    my motto is drink lots and ride lots. life is too short to pretend to have morals.

    its well known presidents, queens, kings and polititians have used this service all the way through history. hell even priests sometimes gave the couple of coins when they finished;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭Icky Thump


    kotva wrote: »
    I read most of previous comments and have to say same bad (but truth):
    Irish (british) women are very laidback with sex and you realy don't have to pay for it. They open legs so easily.

    british yes

    irish depends.

    some places in ireland specially south southwest the birds are totally stuck up. they will try to get you to buy drink for the night then they piss off with some bloke who looks like jedward


    we all pay for it in some way. and as for the bloke saying he doesnt need it that badly......................... youve obviously never had great sex with a 5ft 8, size 6 latino;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Icky Thump wrote: »
    british yes

    irish depends.

    some places in ireland specially south southwest the birds are totally stuck up. they will try to get you to buy drink for the night then they piss off with some bloke who looks like jedward


    we all pay for it in some way. and as for the bloke saying he doesnt need it that badly......................... youve obviously never had great sex with a 5ft 8, size 6 latino;)

    Specifically South Southwest? I heard the North Northwest girls are all mad for it though


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    Icky Thump wrote: »

    some places in ireland specially south southwest the birds are totally stuck up. they will try to get you to buy drink for the night then they piss off with some bloke who looks like jedward


    just because a woman does not want to sleep with you does after you have plied her with drink does not make her stuck up. ;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    Do you normally only have sex with someone you love and who loves you?

    Can't speak for anyone else, but that's what I do anyhow. Never been into casual sex and have only slept with one person who I wasn't in a serious relationship with.

    I was actually going to start this thread, have just spent a few days in Siem Reap where the bars are pretty much full of incredible looking girls who'll sleep with you for 20 dollars. I didn't go with any of them, just seemed so pathetic to see these young women faking interest in 60 year Australians and drunk backpackers. However, two of the guys I was with went with some, the next morning one of the guys was complaining his prostitute wasn't very into the blowjob she gave him... Not sure what he expected to be honest, i doubt it was the highlight of her night.

    That being said, I'm in a long term relationship and have offers from female friends for no strings sex if I want it, I guess I've never really had to consider using a prostitute.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭SLUSK


    I consider it to be my birthright to go to poor countries and sleep with prostitutes. I see nothing wrong with this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    SLUSK wrote: »
    I consider it to be my birthright to go to poor countries and sleep with prostitutes. I see nothing wrong with this.

    Those prostitutes probably consider it their birthright to do something with their lives instead of being sex workers for guys who cant form a real relationship with an actual woman.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    SLUSK wrote: »
    I consider it to be my birthright to go to poor countries and sleep with prostitutes. I see nothing wrong with this.

    I don't see it as being a question of right or wrong, tbh. There's worse ways to spend money or earn it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭SLUSK


    krudler wrote: »
    Those prostitutes probably consider it their birthright to do something with their lives instead of being sex workers for guys who cant form a real relationship with an actual woman.
    Well they don't have to sleep with me if they don't want to, guess they like to make money though.


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  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    SLUSK wrote: »
    I consider it to be my birthright to go to poor countries and sleep with prostitutes. I see nothing wrong with this.

    You genuinely had me believing you weren't a troll in the other thread!
    Well done for fooling us.

    Ah 'twas entertaining all the same :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    SLUSK wrote: »
    I consider it to be my birthright to go to poor countries and sleep with prostitutes. I see nothing wrong with this.

    So it's a power thing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    SLUSK wrote: »
    Well they don't have to sleep with me if they don't want to, guess they like to make money though.

    you'd have to be a fairly sad case for a prostitute to not want to sleep with you, and I doubt most of them "want" to sleep with the vast majority of their clients. you said yourself you go to poor countries, chances are these women dont have anything else to do aside from sleep with people to earn a living as they have no other oppurtunities


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭SLUSK


    You genuinely had me believing you weren't a troll in the other thread!
    Well done for fooling us.

    Ah 'twas entertaining all the same :pac:
    I am being completly honest. Obviously I would never say this to people I know because it would hurt my standing in society. Most people seem to consider me to be a respectable man from a good family.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    I have paid for sex in the past when I was younger..not because I was desperate but just out of curiosity. I found the buzz and excitement of getting a prostitute far better than the actual experience itself...

    Nowadays I am much happier going for an hour long Thai massage and hand relief every few weeks...I have a regular masseuse I visit so it is very relaxed and we both know the story..:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    krudler wrote: »
    you'd have to be a fairly sad case for a prostitute to not want to sleep with you, and I doubt most of them "want" to sleep with the vast majority of their clients. you said yourself you go to poor countries, chances are these women dont have anything else to do aside from sleep with people to earn a living as they have no other oppurtunities

    Work is work, how many people "want" to work in an office all day, or down a coal mine or wherever.

    I agree wrt to the lack of opportunities but we don't live in a dream world where we can end poverty overnight. If you do care about these things, donate to the relevant charities.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,283 ✭✭✭Deedsie


    I couldnt pay for it, "the hunt" is half the fun. Seeing a woman you like and putting yourself out there and eventually being with her is brilliant. Gives you serious confidence.

    I dont see anything wrong with it. Just not for me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    SLUSK wrote: »
    Well they don't have to sleep with me if they don't want to, guess they like to make money though.

    A but Mr Slusk-reading your other thread - you dont have a girlfriend and wont pay western prices so when you do travel you are taking advantage of the relative difference in prices in the economies. You also have the cost of your trip in terms flights, food , accomadation.

    To get sex in the West on your terms where you live you would probably need to be an escort yourself and need to take the type of woman who would pay for your services,go for a woman with special tastes and who wanted to be treated badly (and they are out there but may be abit weird) or get into a relationship with say an older woman who will pay the bills.

    So in your situation you have little choice but to travel abroad and you have a physical need and the lady a financial need. You are paying for her time at the going rate. The money is good money where she lives. The power you feel is just like a patron of a resterant buying a meal -except the commodity is sex.

    The other aspect is that when you go on a sex trip you have sex for a few weeks and go home again and have to wait till next year and save up till the next trip.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Who said anything about having to?

    What about as an occasional indulgence in a unique experience?

    I think if it's not a case of being desperate, then it would be a scenario much like Slusk paints, one where it's about exerting your notions of "power" and "superiority" over another.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    I think if it's not a case of being desperate, then it would be a scenario much like Slusk paints, one where it's about exerting your notions of "power" and "superiority" over another.

    Whats with the whole superiority thing. Not to much different to asking someone to wear a nurses uniform. Its a little game that she goes thru as part of the transaction.

    Not to different to Max Mosley and the 5 prostitutes and the Nazi sex game.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/formula_1/article3649197.ece

    They are punters and paying for a service.

    If they paid to get spanked -the girls would spank them.

    Nothing superior there I'm afraid.


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