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** Game Awards 2009 - Results and Discussion **
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James Howlett wrote: »so you don't consider it a boss battle?
if so, why not?
Well, isn't it just a giant quick time event? With no other elements involved. Fairly repetitve and long if you ask me. That doesn't make it a great boss battle.0 -
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I need to give it some more thought, but my first reaction is that I love that idea, James.
It's a very very bad idea. If you have this then the biased committee will have their games in the awards, it's extremely hard to impliment and it's going to cause more problems than already is.
This awards is about what you think, not about what 4 people think and then voting on that. Nor is it about someone reading an awesome review of a game and thinking it's great based on the review.Ah I don't think so. But there are issues with James' suggestion now that I think about it.
Even if we had put something like Demon's Souls in some of the categories, it still would have lost out (because only 4 people have played it)
I like the idea of an awards committee though...
That's the point of this, it's very democratic. Not everyone here is going to be playing every game out there, we all have differant tastes, likes and dislikes. You put 4 people on a committee and that goes out the window, they will nominate their favourites, and not that of the whole group.and who the f**k says mods know more about games then a lot of the users here?
They may or may not. That's not the reason they are mods.The problem is people play the games which get the most market exposure
Dumb Modern Shooter 5
Generic Interactive Film 2
Iteration updated roster Soccer 2011
Sandbox Criminal, Sh1thole City
The Best Part was when the Car exploded Racer
Are these games the best of the year? Sometimes they are but often not. They are the best sellers though and people can only vote based on what they have played.
If they are voted best games of the year, then they are the best games of the year, regardless of what you may think. This awards is exclusive to boards.ie members, not the global gaming community ffs. We are asked, what are our favourite games, and although our nominations may not reflect the best game of the year in terms of, design, gameplay, physics, sound etc etc. The thing is, this is my opinion on what is the best game.
If you want to reflect the true results, then scrap this award system and just post a link to a perstigeous group like IGN or something.Look at Demon Souls, how can people here vote in any great numbers for it when it didn't even get a PAL release. How can its lack of awards come as a disappointment or surprise to anyone?
That's the point, it's this communities reflection, be it completely off in your opinion or not. If people don't play the game it's not going to be nominated, regardless of how great it is. I don't think you or anybody else should have the ability to put that game in especially when a tiny percentage of this community have played it. How the hell can it win anything if nobody played the poxy game?My biggest gripe is to see titles like Uncharted 2 win awards, bar its production qualities it is the complete opposite direction I wish games were going. It's a 10 hour throw away game.
You are not the game rewards, but one opinion, which is great. People like you would make a balls of it all if you were asked to put on a community. Why? Well it doesn't reflect this communities true opinion, but that of 3 or 4 biased people.
There are games that are pretty crap and still won, yet this is a good thing, because it reflects our opinions.
I hope everyone is getting the message here, because I have repeated myself about 15 times since the beginning of this saga. Yet, people still whinge and moan about it.James Howlett wrote: »I never said anythng against a public vote, certainly keep that or else whats the point?
I just mean for deciding what games should be voted on.
Then what is the point of this? If you are limiting me to a few games, that I might hate, what the fcuk is the point in asking me for my opinion on it? It's a terribly bad idea. Sorry.If a group decide that the top 5 games of the decade should be voted on and choose 4 really good games and Halo 3, and then Halo 3 wins by more votes, fair enough but at least the right games were nominated.
The right games? WTF? The right games nominated by a tiny representation of this forum. The right games according to who? 3 or 4 fools? I don't think so. What this action does is deny people the ability to vote for THEIR favourite games and instead they vote on the favourite games other people chose...Retr0gamer wrote: »You see if we do that we'll get accused of favouritism
Surely would, and rightly so.and 'fight the powah!' posts. Public vote usually isn't right but it is the fairest.
One thing I hate about boards is this bullcrap. A mod suggests something, a normal user debates against it, and automatically it is seen as an attack on the mod and his authority... It's not, it's a simple post like any other, so mods, do please get down off your high horses, nobody really gives a damn that you are mods or not. The ideas and the likes are the problems, not the person behind the idea.Another good point. I mean what right have the mods or selected users to say that that they are experts in gaming. Mods are just regular users trusted by the admins not to abuse powers to make sure the forums are run smoothly.
No right, nobody has the right to tell me that I can only vote on these 5 committee selected games...0 -
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Carmen Whispering Ventilation wrote: »One thing I hate about boards is this bullcrap. A mod suggests something, a normal user debates against it, and automatically it is seen as an attack on the mod and his authority... It's not, it's a simple post like any other, so mods, do please get down off your high horses, nobody really gives a damn that you are mods or not. The ideas and the likes are the problems, not the person behind the idea.
We are just throwing out ideas here to be debated, no need to go off on a rant about mods. If you read my posts you will see that I'm actually agreeing with you second class citizens/peons/non-mods.
It's also a discussion forum, it would be rather boring if we couldn't discuss what we thought of the topics brought up.
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Retr0gamer wrote: »Jazzy just hates everything Guitar Hero/Rock Band.
gaytar hero.
no lans coming up is there? shame
ill have to find another way to punish retr0. got a starcraft 2 beta key yet? 
james_howlett wrote:so you don't consider it a boss battle?
if so, why not?
gaytar hero has no bosses in the game. go play super metroid, metroid prime, viewtiful joe and secret level 32 of doom 2. until you have done this, your opinions on bosses and what they are is irrelevant. sorry, but that is pretty much the truth. i know you reeeeaaaallllyyyy super like rythym games, but they have no bosses. heck, they are barely real games. they are music simulators.
oh yeah, and the new battlestar galactica is massively over rated. its like 24 in space with robots and shaky cameras that add 'suspense'0 -
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James Howlett wrote: »quoted stuff in here:
That's the point of this, it's very democratic. Not everyone here is going to be playing every game out there, we all have differant tastes, likes and dislikes. You put 4 people on a committee and that goes out the window, they will nominate their favourites, and not that of the whole group.
don't recall anyone suggesting this...
That's not the reason they are mods.
never said it was...
If they are voted best games of the year, then they are the best games of the year, regardless of what you may think.
I never disagreed with this.
This awards is exclusive to boards.ie members, not the global gaming community ffs.
Take a chill pill.
You are not the game rewards, but one opinion, which is great. People like you would make a balls of it all if you were asked to put on a community. Why? Well it doesn't reflect this communities true opinion, but that of 3 or 4 biased people.
never said i was anything but that.
and you are but one opinion too.
I hope everyone is getting the message here, because I have repeated myself about 15 times since the beginning of this saga. Yet, people still whinge and moan about it.
Seriously? you clearly do not get my message then. you appear to be taking what i was suggesting very personally and rather than offer constructive criticism, you prefer to make a very angry attack.
re-read what i posted and think about it.
Then what is the point of this? If you are limiting me to a few games, that I might hate, what the fcuk is the point in asking me for my opinion on it? It's a terribly bad idea. Sorry.
the awards were limited to a few games when we went to vote already. your giving about about something that is already in place here.
One thing I hate about boards is this bullcrap. A mod suggests something, a normal user debates against it, and automatically it is seen as an attack on the mod and his authority... It's not, it's a simple post like any other, so mods, do please get down off your high horses, nobody really gives a damn that you are mods or not. The ideas and the likes are the problems, not the person behind the idea.
like this is an attack on my simple post? get off your own high horse dude.
No right, nobody has the right to tell me that I can only vote on these 5 committee selected games...
you only voted on 5 games per section anyway.
can't we all just get along?
i look forward to sharing ammo with you guys in left for dead eh?
on a serious note i didn't mean to offend anyone with my suggestion but hasn't this gotten out of hand?
It seems you are the one taking it personal that I completely disagreed with your idea.
"Like this is an attack on my simple post"
No it's not, it's pointing out the countless flaws your idea has. It wasn't a good one, but don't stop them comming, if it's not going to work, expect a lot of criticism over it
"the awards were limited to a few games when we went to vote already. your giving about about something that is already in place here."
Who nominated those games? It wasn't the committee, which is the whole point. It was the community here in this forum. That is the very thing I am defending.
4 was a random number, it wasn't suggested that 4 people should be on the committee, but having a large number on it would be chaos too. Either way, it would never reflect the community as a whole.
Is there anything anybody really had a problem with? Apart from certain games winning certain awards that obviously shouldn't have. Nothing we can do about that at all.0 -
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Carmen Whispering Ventilation wrote: »
"Like this is an attack on my simple post"
No it's not, it's pointing out the countless flaws your idea has. It wasn't a good one, but don't stop them comming, if it's not going to work, expect a lot of criticism over it
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