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** Game Awards 2009 - Results and Discussion **
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27-02-2010 1:49am#1
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They are all kind of depressingly predictable
No sign of Demon's Souls or Persona 4 either, demon's souls particularly since it's far and away my game of the year and hugely innovative. I've only gotone or two problems with the winners, I'm just disappointed by the lack of surprises.
Now for my gripes:
- Game design of the year going to Uncharted 2? All it is is a pretty third person shooter with a cover system, hardly pushing the envelope.
- Best Boss battle of the year first and second place goes to two interactive cutscenes and not boss battles.
I'm also not sure about chrono trigger getting in there since it's a rerelease.
Now on to the best of the decade and dear oh dear it's abysmal. It's to be expected from a popular vote contest but there were far too many undeserving winners and far too many new games beating out far more deserving older ones.
- boss battle going to another cutscene and beating out a far more deserving entry that was an actual boss battle.
- console game of the decade vice city? It really sits uneasily with me that the game got this because it really isn't that amazing a game and hasn't aged all that well. It's good at best and really it's totally undeserving.
- Best story is another disappointment. Half-Life 2 isn't that great of a story and Bioshock while having a decent one I feel has been overrated in this category. There's much better games that deserve to be higher. I'm sure anyone that's played Silent Hill 2 will agree.
- Best soundtrack/sound design going to vice city is a major slap in the face for all the other nominees. It's basically 'now that's what I call the 80's' with some awful low quality and sampled sound effects filling in for sound design. Is an 80's compilation no matter how good better than the stunning surroung sound mixing of Dead Space, Thief 2's use of a stunning soundscape as a gameplay concept or the orchestral score and sound design of shadow of the colossus.
Half-life 2 also appears too much for my liking. While I loved the game I think there's better releasedthis decade. I'm also surprised at the lack of the PC hardcore standing behind deus ex.
Best of the decade is basically a mix of populist choices and recent releases and is therefore for me unfortunately both depressing and utterly meaningless.
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I'm actually not complaining much about the game of the year awards, thought I'd be a lot worse. While I don't agree I think other than what I mentioned are deserving. Just would have liked a bit more unpredictability. Decade awards though is a different story.
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Retr0gamer wrote: »They are all kind of depressingly predictable No sign of Demon's Souls or Persona 4 either, demon's souls particularly since it's far and away my game of the year and hugely innovative. I've only gotone or two problems with the winners, I'm just disappointed by the lack of surprises.
Now for my gripes:
- Game design of the year going to Uncharted 2? All it is is a pretty third person shooter with a cover system, hardly pushing the envelope.
- Best Boss battle of the year first and second place goes to two interactive cutscenes and not boss battles.
I'm also not sure about chrono trigger getting in there since it's a rerelease.
Now on to the best of the decade and dear oh dear it's abysmal. It's to be expected from a popular vote contest but there were far too many undeserving winners and far too many new games beating out far more deserving older ones.
- boss battle going to another cutscene and beating out a far more deserving entry that was an actual boss battle.
- console game of the decade vice city? It really sits uneasily with me that the game got this because it really isn't that amazing a game and hasn't aged all that well. It's good at best and really it's totally undeserving.
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Its called democracy. Everyone gets a vote :P ......maybe it should be like animal farm though eh ??
All vote's are equal, but some are more equal than other
:P
On a side note, quite happy with MW2 not getting a lookin on the PCSide,
Very please with Best Story award for Bioshock.
Confused by Best boss battle (OF THE DECADE ??!) ...I can't even remember it too well tbh, wasn't it just you hiding from scarecrow and shining a light on him ?0 -
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Don't agree with many of the results but it could never be perfect, for example much as the boss battles in Metroid Prime may have been better than in Batman, I could not vote for Metroid as I have never played the 1st 2 games :eek:
And I never finished MGS3 as it bored me to tears
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So GTAIV is the second most overrated game of the decade as well as the best console game of the decade?! Make up your minds!
It doesn't say GTA 4, it says Vice City
.....My big gripe(and we all have one if not more) would be how Fallout 3 was behind some Star Wars game in RPG of the decade.... then to compound it, 2nd overall of the decade, just don't see how it's second when its allegedly worse then some gammy Star Wars game(in another section) 
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gilberto_eire wrote: »...just don't see how it's second when its allegedly worse then some gammy Star Wars game(in another section)
Gammy?
You must have miss-read; it said Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic.0 -
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Retr0gamer wrote: »They are all kind of depressingly predictable No sign of Demon's Souls or Persona 4 either, demon's souls particularly since it's far and away my game of the year and hugely innovative. I've only gotone or two problems with the winners, I'm just disappointed by the lack of surprises.
Now for my gripes:
- Game design of the year going to Uncharted 2? All it is is a pretty third person shooter with a cover system, hardly pushing the envelope.
- Best Boss battle of the year first and second place goes to two interactive cutscenes and not boss battles.
I'm also not sure about chrono trigger getting in there since it's a rerelease.
Now on to the best of the decade and dear oh dear it's abysmal. It's to be expected from a popular vote contest but there were far too many undeserving winners and far too many new games beating out far more deserving older ones.
- boss battle going to another cutscene and beating out a far more deserving entry that was an actual boss battle.
- console game of the decade vice city? It really sits uneasily with me that the game got this because it really isn't that amazing a game and hasn't aged all that well. It's good at best and really it's totally undeserving.
- Best story is another disappointment. Half-Life 2 isn't that great of a story and Bioshock while having a decent one I feel has been overrated in this category. There's much better games that deserve to be higher. I'm sure anyone that's played Silent Hill 2 will agree.
- Best soundtrack/sound design going to vice city is a major slap in the face for all the other nominees. It's basically 'now that's what I call the 80's' with some awful low quality and sampled sound effects filling in for sound design. Is an 80's compilation no matter how good better than the stunning surroung sound mixing of Dead Space, Thief 2's use of a stunning soundscape as a gameplay concept or the orchestral score and sound design of shadow of the colossus.
Half-life 2 also appears too much for my liking. While I loved the game I think there's better releasedthis decade. I'm also surprised at the lack of the PC hardcore standing behind deus ex.
Best of the decade is basically a mix of populist choices and recent releases and is therefore for me unfortunately both depressing and utterly meaningless.
Wasn't expecting any less whinging and whining out of you to be quite honest. Take a look over the whole topic and re-read your comments. Never came accross anybody to cry about something so much. Your posts make me cringe, I can't speak for everyone, but I am sure there are others that feel the same...
Maybe less of the crying and a little more appretiation of the work that was put into this? I mean, if you are that pissed off about it, why not hold your own awards? That way you can have the games you like on top.
The results represent boards.ie gamer community, don't expect your favourite games to get a mention, let alone win it. There are games that probably should not be there, and games that deserve better, but it doesn't matter because the opinions are that of a small group of people.Retr0gamer wrote: »I'm actually not complaining much about the game of the year awards, thought I'd be a lot worse. While I don't agree I think other than what I mentioned are deserving. Just would have liked a bit more unpredictability. Decade awards though is a different story.
The part in bold made me laugh, complaining is all you seem to do
You seriously fail to realise that this is taken from the opinions of boards.ie members and not the whole world, it's not the be all of gaming awards.
On a side note, thanks for this all those involved, great work. 0 -
I don't know about anyone else, but I read through Retr0's post, saying "Yep, Yes, Agree, True, Yep..." after each of his points.
The only one I disagree with was the Bioshock comment (I thought it had a great narrative), and I stand by Chronotrigger's inclusion, because it was the first time I'd played it, and it has aged very well.
I dunno, maybe next year have a separate survey for the over 25s?
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I did like Bioshocks narrative but I think my opinions of the game were dulled a bit after playing system shock 2 a few weeks ago which I thought was better. I think there's better narratives.
And don't worry I do appreciate the effort that went into organising it.
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Retr0gamer wrote: »Where did this bad name I'm getting come from?
Maya Fey for hottest character of the decade was a little worrying tbh... I was quite tempted to edit your post and replace the picture with one of pedobear:p0 -
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Maya Fey for hottest character of the decade was a little worrying tbh...Retr0gamer wrote: »Wiki says she's 17. Won't even have to do time :P
I think tman must of meant lolicon. 17 years old... come on, you know in anime anyone whos 17 is drawn like a 12 year old :pac:
There's also that image floating about of you dressed as a Japanese schoolgirl
In all seriousness though, Demon Souls doesn't even get 1 mention. Damn shame, damn damn shame. My personal best game of the year and in my top 5 for games of the decade.0 -
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SeantheMan wrote: »Endless Setlist in Rockband should count as a boss battle !! 53 songs in 1 session i think it is.
Took me and my mate about 8-10 hours + 2 Bottles of Vodka (11pm-8amish) to complete.
Lmao get rock band 2 my friend , then do that playing endless setlist 2 for the bladder of steal achievement on expert (no pausing or hitting guide button or failing , 84 songs in 1 sitting) pampers optional but recommended
I tried for it recently but gave up on the bladder cheevo after 2 hours and paused for comfort, came back and played over the space of a day, but sure didn't i forget about a song called visions, 2 songs from the end :mad: could only make it 10 seconds in before failing out. Agree this should count as the boss battles of all boss battles, theres no luck involved just skill , which i lack it seems 0 -
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Lmao get rock band 2 my friend , then do that playing endless setlist 2 for the bladder of steal achievement on expert (no pausing or hitting guide button or failing , 84 songs in 1 sitting) pampers optional but recommended
I tried for it recently but gave up on the bladder cheevo after 2 hours and paused for comfort, came back and played over the space of a day, but sure didn't i forget about a song called visions, 2 songs from the end :mad: could only make it 10 seconds in before failing out. Agree this should count as the boss battles of all boss battles, theres no luck involved just skill , which i lack it seems
Yeah, have RB2, but some of the songs seemed the way of Guitar Hero (noise and screams making a crap song for the sake of giving it some difficulty), whereas you enjoy the songs on RB1 ...and although I like achievements, I'm not such a whore as to want to do 83 songs without at least a piss break for one :P :P We'd need at least 2 bottles of vodka and a bottle of Southern Comfort to do that !!
You were probably doing it on expert, we did the RB1 one on HARD as we couldnt face doing Run to the Hills on expert after 8 hours :P ...planning ye see0 -
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James Howlett wrote: »perhaps "Nominations" threads should be changed to "Suggestions" and a handful of mods should be able to decide themselves what games should be voted on.
its the end of Democracy as we know it
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Ah I don't think so. But there are issues with James' suggestion now that I think about it.
Even if we had put something like Demon's Souls in some of the categories, it still would have lost out (because only 4 people have played it)
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Ah I don't think so. But there are issues with James' suggestion now that I think about it.
Even if we had put something like Demon's Souls in some of the categories, it still would have lost out (because only 4 people have played it)
I like the idea of an awards committee though...
I agree with the idea of an awards committee, but the whole issue of biased opinions would be an issue. Unles you assigned something like 3 committee members of each platform, and a majority vote on each suggestion.
Dunno. It makes things fairer, but at the same time complicates things.0 -
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I think we should keep the public vote. Perhaps we could also have a commitee to pick out games of the year in categories and try and agree on them as a seperate thing. Don't order them 1-5 but have say the top 5 RPGs of the year.
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