Cork - Waterford Rail Link

clear thinking

Good piece in yesterdays FT about how the UK government are forcing cities & councils & businesses to work together to develop regional hubs to be competitive.

One of the keys is good transport links.

Unfortunately the system here is so fractured and parochial that it is unlikely to ever happen here.

Infrastructure is something chambers of commerce and other professional organisations should be pushing for.

It's not just a case of build a road or rail line to meet existing demand. It is about driving economic growth by putting a framework in place that business can work from: transport links, educated residents, enterprise & business to business trade, incentives for business to move to the region (ie compete with UK or US cities for global business), incentives for individuals to move to the region and so on.

dowlingm

For me, any putative rail link or refurbishment should aim to be as fast from terminus to terminus as the road beside it. It's ridiculous to consider ramming a multibillion euro alignment from Youghal to Dungarvan, Kilmeaden and the disused Suir bridge when Clonmel and Carlow don't have commuter service to Waterford, and the Clonmel line runs on manual LCs and 40mph timetabling.

Let's not make the WRC mistake of adding a low volume route to the network which causes the closure of others.

clear thinking

Madness to improve the carlow & waterford link. Carlow is a dublin commuter fringe town now and has a motorway link to w/ford.

Waterfords population makes it and the towns in between Cork ideal as a commuter line for Cork

corktina

how many commuters do you think would go to/from Cork and Waterford via Limerick Junc (or by any other fantastic route) (come on now, you can use the fingers of both hands if necessary to count them, you wont need to take off your socks though):D)

clear thinking

About the same as went from drogheda to dublin 20 years ago, divided by 3.

Aard

Drogheda is between Dublin and Belfast, the two biggest population centres on the island. The line would be there anyway. There's also many other towns on the route. And no mountains. It's a bad comparison.

clear thinking

Aard wrote: »

Drogheda is between Dublin and Belfast, the two biggest population centres on the island. The line would be there anyway. There's also many other towns on the route. And no mountains. It's a bad comparison.

The commuter services dont go to belfast.

highlydebased

clear thinking wrote: »

The commuter services dont go to belfast.

He didn't say they did- he just said where Drogheda is in relation to it...

D.L.R.

clear thinking wrote: »

Waterfords population makes it and the towns in between Cork ideal as a commuter line for Cork

Waterford's population? What population?? Is vodka the clear thinking your talking about? :pac:

dowlingm

Can we all stop indulging this spoofing now?

One look at Google Maps Terrain Mode is enough to settle this. Even if billiard table flat there is no money to build Youghal-Dungarvan - there isn't even money to reinstate Midleton-Youghal or Waterford-Dungarvan (and turf out the Kilmeaden people in the process).

Even if there was, it would still dump everyone at the far side of the river from everything in Waterford that matters or in the event of a south bank halt way west of WIT etc.

Let it be. Please.

DWCommuter

Victor wrote: »

Play nice.

You're modding the wrong forum.;)

dubhthach

DWCommuter wrote: »

You're modding the wrong forum.;)

Well you have to give Victor this he reported his own post! Now that's following the rules. This thread tbh has descended into soap boxing in my opinion as well as generating way too much heat and not enough light. As a result I'm locking it.