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Clare GAA discussion thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,474 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    First half..best hurling we've played since All Ireland replay

    Second half...terrible, yes the game was over but no team should be coming to Ennis and scoring that many points in the second half!

    i agree with you but infairness how do you get your self motavated for the second half when you are 23 points up at half time, i can only imagine the waterford dresing room were demanding performances where the clare lads just had to see the game out


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,810 Mod ✭✭✭✭Keano


    We have to find a way windy. Twice last September against Cork we had sizeable leads and went flat. I know we cannot keep up that intensity but scoring 1-3 is bad. We wasted a lot of chances


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,474 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    yeah it did happen alot last year the galway game was probably the one that nearly caught us, tipperary clawed us back to two points last week before we kicked on again , i suppose it is good to have something to work on after such a one sided game i dont know if the management have something to prevent it from happening again it seemed the ethos last season was if they score 3 goals we score 4

    maybe if they included totts , paul flanagen and shane golden in around the 45 50 minuet mark to get things going again when things went flat instead of waiting so late to make the changes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,845 ✭✭✭Hidalgo


    Only realistic way to avoid the complacency that naturally set in for the 2nd half would have been to throw on fringe players at HT and tell them that if they performed they'd then get the start V Galway.

    Nice to be going into the last game with a QF spot in the bag, gives management to look at a few players/ideas etc.


    ps, that little flick by Tony Kelly when he was on as a blood sub for Podge was a joy to watch, can't remember who he set upo but a beautiful piece of skill by a player able to operate at his own pace


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,248 ✭✭✭kstand


    Hidalgo wrote: »
    Only realistic way to avoid the complacency that naturally set in for the 2nd half would have been to throw on fringe players at HT and tell them that if they performed they'd then get the start V Galway.

    Nice to be going into the last game with a QF spot in the bag, gives management to look at a few players/ideas etc.


    ps, that little flick by Tony Kelly when he was on as a blood sub for Podge was a joy to watch, can't remember who he set upo but a beautiful piece of skill by a player able to operate at his own pace

    It was sheer class. I have to bite my tongue a bit but looking at them over the last few weeks, I cant help asking who is going to be able to put the shackles on them this summer? The speed they hurl at and their ability to make space and move the ball accurately as well as take scores, I don't think there is anyone right now on the same plane as them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭eire 2012


    kstand wrote: »
    It was sheer class. I have to bite my tongue a bit but looking at them over the last few weeks, I cant help asking who is going to be able to put the shackles on them this summer? The speed they hurl at and their ability to make space and move the ball accurately as well as take scores, I don't think there is anyone right now on the same plane as them.

    That's a fair statement to be making in the middle of March. Clare will score plenty during the championship but they will concede a fair bit too. Sounds like tipp people after they hammered Waterford in 2011 think u may need to wait a while yet lots of hurling to be done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,248 ✭✭✭kstand


    eire 2012 wrote: »
    That's a fair statement to be making in the middle of March. Clare will score plenty during the championship but they will concede a fair bit too. Sounds like tipp people after they hammered Waterford in 2011 think u may need to wait a while yet lots of hurling to be done.

    Yeah, its early days but these lads are still so young and they seem to be getting better and better - a lot of them are only 19 or 20. They hurl with incredible intensity and its rare they miss the chances they create. Its a great problem to have an a great time to be from Clare.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,474 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    we did play well in the first half but in fairness waterford were terrible and plus i think at times the clare support were starting to lose patients with there efforts which is something i have never seen before

    despite how good how good we played in the first half it cant be ignored we were beating by 10 points in the second half and if we do end up playing them in the munster championship expect a compleatley different game


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭Figerty


    Waterford probably in the middile of heavy training for the championship. Forget that result. We can take the points but ignore waterfords performance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭savannahkat


    I cant see any one coming close to Clare in the championship.The second fifteen in Clare at present are as good as the first fifteen. Speed, Skill, Toughness- it is all there, together with the experience of winning an All Ireland and the passionate Davy, the Players and the Supporters generate is awe inspiring. Clare will match Kilkenny's 4 in a row and go on to become the first county to win five in a row


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 743 ✭✭✭GrandSoftDay


    I cant see any one coming close to Clare in the championship.The second fifteen in Clare at present are as good as the first fifteen. Speed, Skill, Toughness- it is all there, together with the experience of winning an All Ireland and the passionate Davy, the Players and the Supporters generate is awe inspiring. Clare will match Kilkenny's 4 in a row and go on to become the first county to win five in a row

    Speaking as a proud Clare person I don't even believe that. We barely beat a second string kk team in Ennis, had a good win against Tipp missing a few big names who had stated have no interest in the league. Got well beaten by Dublin and couldn't win any possession in our half forward line and I don't know what happened Waterford, To leave O Donnell with so much space inside their own 45 was always asking for trouble even though I don't think Clare would have lost either way. Too soon to even think about comparing them to the great kk team that has ruled hurling for the past ten years but there is potential.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,562 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Speaking as a proud Clare person I don't even believe that. We barely beat a second string kk team in Ennis, had a good win against Tipp missing a few big names who had stated have no interest in the league. Got well beaten by Dublin and couldn't win any possession in our half forward line and I don't know what happened Waterford, To leave O Donnell with so much space inside their own 45 was always asking for trouble even though I don't think Clare would have lost either way. Too soon to even think about comparing them to the great kk team that has ruled hurling for the past ten years but there is potential.

    Think your KK friend is being ironic, just a bit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,474 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    the clare team for tomorrow will make for an interesting game giving the amount of changes , i heard podge was injured so i dont expect him to start , no harm to give everyone a run out big ask though giving the fact that galway will be full strength again with the portumna lads back

    1. Patrick Kelly
    2. Domhnall O Donovan
    3. Cian Dillon
    4. Jack Browne
    5. Brendan Bugler
    6. Conor Ryan
    7. Paul Flanagan
    8. Pat O'Connor
    9. Colm Galvin
    10. Peter Duggan
    11. Tony Kelly
    12. Shane Golden
    13. Cathal McInerney
    14. Shane O'Donnell
    15. Podge Collins


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 743 ✭✭✭GrandSoftDay


    the clare team for tomorrow will make for an interesting game giving the amount of changes , i heard podge was injured so i dont expect him to start , no harm to give everyone a run out big ask though giving the fact that galway will be full strength again with the portumna lads back

    1. Patrick Kelly
    2. Domhnall O Donovan
    3. Cian Dillon
    4. Jack Browne
    5. Brendan Bugler
    6. Conor Ryan
    7. Paul Flanagan
    8. Pat O'Connor
    9. Colm Galvin
    10. Peter Duggan
    11. Tony Kelly
    12. Shane Golden
    13. Cathal McInerney
    14. Shane O'Donnell
    15. Podge Collins

    I don't think the portumna lads are named in the team. Nice to see Davy shaking it up a bit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,845 ✭✭✭Hidalgo


    No harm to see fringe players get a run out, there won't be too many opportunities to do so throughout the year.
    Hopefully someone can stake a claim and give the management something to think about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,506 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    So Clare got a draw and into quarterfinal.

    Anybody have any clue how the league works ?

    Cork it seems are promoted, so one if Dublin or Waterford will be going down.

    Limerick stay in Div 1B for another year but get a quarter final ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,506 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    What was Golden sent off for ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,474 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    So Clare got a draw and into quarterfinal.

    Anybody have any clue how the league works ?

    Cork it seems are promoted, so one if Dublin or Waterford will be going down.

    Limerick stay in Div 1B for another year but get a quarter final ?

    clare finsh top so they play laois who finished 4th in division 1B there will be a coin toss tommorow to see who gets home advantage

    2nd placed kilkenny will play wexford

    3rd placed galway will play limerick

    4th placed tipparery will play cork

    dublin will play waterford in waterford next week to decide who gets relagated

    cork will be back up to 1A next year after they finished top

    the semi finals and finals will be played at a neutral venue most likely thurles and most likely as part of a double header which will be played on the 20th of April and the final down for the 4th of may


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,474 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    What was Golden sent off for ?

    he struck a galway player with his hurl , which was stupid considering the linesman was only meters away and plus the fact he was already on a yellow card


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,845 ✭✭✭Hidalgo


    What was Golden sent off for ?

    Iarliath Tannion had a bit of a wild swing which resulted in a bit of a schmozzle. Golden was the 1st man in and I presume that's why he got a 2nd yellow.

    If memory serves me right, his 1st yellow was fairly harsh


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 743 ✭✭✭GrandSoftDay


    Hidalgo wrote: »
    Iarliath Tannion had a bit of a wild swing which resulted in a bit of a schmozzle. Golden was the 1st man in and I presume that's why he got a 2nd yellow.

    If memory serves me right, his 1st yellow was fairly harsh
    I know he got a yellow before that but didn't see him getting a second one, assumed it was a straight red...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,845 ✭✭✭Hidalgo


    I know he got a yellow before that but didn't see him getting a second one, assumed it was a straight red...

    It could have been straight red, the sun was directly in my eyes wen the ref was flashing the card


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,474 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    it was a straight red which was harsh considering niall healy was allowed stay on the field for the full game and correct me if i am wrong but i think he travled across the pitch to get involved in the ruck that saw golden sent off

    i taught dirmuid kerwin was a far better ref then that , it was a niggley type of game but god help him when teams are at full tilt , even our last point came from a harsh decision players deserve better


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 743 ✭✭✭GrandSoftDay


    it was a straight red which was harsh considering niall healy was allowed stay on the field for the full game and correct me if i am wrong but i think he travled across the pitch to get involved in the ruck that saw golden sent off

    i taught dirmuid kerwin was a far better ref then that , it was a niggley type of game but god help him when teams are at full tilt , even our last point came from a harsh decision players deserve better

    He must have struck tannion with the hurl to get a straight red or something to that effect. Moving away from that I thought Browne and Flanagan played well, especially Browne. Good option to have because we haven't much in reserve for the fb line. Galvin put in a very good shift aswell, o donnell would have found more space at a teen disco, 2-3 men on him most of the time. Cathal mc was anonymous which disappointed me a bit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,474 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    davey said browne was the best man marker in the county in a commentary on clare fm for the u21 game against waterford last year

    i was surprised he was'nt called up to the seniors sooner , good test for him today galway had the clare defence under all sorts of pressure at different times and he never put a foot wrong

    even by the standerds of what we put out on the field today i taught we were well below par , i think we scored 4 points from play and if
    i am not mistaking i think tony kelly scored 12 or 13 out of the 18 points we scored today

    we were lucky enough to get a draw and in saying that we must be the only county that celebrates a draw as if it was a win , good job we got it though in the end it saves a long trip to wexford and even sets up the chance of a double header with the footballers next week in ennis


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,474 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    clare finsh top so they play laois who finished 4th in division 1B there will be a coin toss tommorow to see who gets home advantage

    2nd placed kilkenny will play wexford

    3rd placed galway will play limerick

    4th placed tipparery will play cork

    dublin will play waterford in waterford next week to decide who gets relagated

    cork will be back up to 1A next year after they finished top

    the semi finals and finals will be played at a neutral venue most likely thurles and most likely as part of a double header which will be played on the 20th of April and the final down for the 4th of may

    just to add to the confusion the semi final draw is like this

    clare/laois v cork/Tipperary

    wexford/kilkenny v galway/limerick

    and there to be played on the 20th of April


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,506 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    Clare away to Laois.

    Expect it should be relatively comfortable for Clare.
    Lost their under Sparrow (was it 2011?), but are a different animal now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,474 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    A preview to tomorrows games starting with hurling and a look ahead to laois who will be anything but push overs as the highlights from last week show, great effort in the league this year from them , was very impressed with the way they played against cork last month aswell they have some quality players aswell tommy fitzgereld , matthew whelan and john purcill all look like good hurlers and will make tommorows game tough

    2 years ago limerick put 6-21 against them , while cork scored 10-21 in a qullifier in portlaois . they lost by 4points and 6 points respectably against the same oppisition this year so far




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,474 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    in the football clare need to win there remaining 2 games to guarantee promotion
    carlow are first up and if there game against wicklow is anything to go by carlow football is in a low place

    i expect the footballers to win this one handy enough givin the directions in which both teams are going in at the moment , some of the defending in this video gave me nightmares :eek: i am sure it did no favours to anthony rainbow's health ether



    credit also to wicklow gaa for the video , all counties out side the top divisions should be doing the same to promote there counties progress


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭grattanspuds


    in the football clare need to win there remaining 2 games to guarantee promotion
    carlow are first up and if there game against wicklow is anything to go by carlow football is in a low place

    i expect the footballers to win this one handy enough givin the directions in which both teams are going in at the moment , some of the defending in this video gave me nightmares :eek: i am sure it did no favours to anthony rainbow's health ether



    credit also to wicklow gaa for the video , all counties out side the top divisions should be doing the same to promote there counties progress

    Fair play to you, very informative that football clip. Clare have incentive to win well too for score difference reasons don't they?


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