Clare GAA discussion thread

Hidalgo

premierstone wrote: »

Have you listened to the speech? Not being smart but he doesnt just make a small reference to it, he brings it up and later again returns to the issue, and all the while its ''I'' did this and ''I'' sorted it.

Self-praise isn't exactly a new trait only gained since last Sept.

I remember he once claimed LIT won an important Fitzgibbon game because of the choice of music he played on the bus on the way to the game, this was pivotal and central to the win, 'the songs I picked to gee up the lads'.

windy shepard henderson

i dont like the fact that he seemed to think that he fixed this big "drug" culture , i still think that alot of what he said was exaggerated and he should have used extracts from his days playing in the 90s all ireland winning teams who along with there main rivals offaly had a huge drink and gambling culture, maybe if he used examples from this era the reaction would have not been as bad considering most people knew about it and in truth no one seemed to make too much of a secret of it either

but the idea that there was a drug culture seems to have got people worked up and i cant understand why? i know a few of the players that played around that time and i highly doubt there was anyone on the main panel that was taking anything stronger then water let alone drugs but there would have been lads defiantly lads at club level at it and in far more counties then clare too

what annoys me is the fact that everyone keeps saying that "he should have kept his mouth shut" .........???? why

in fact i think liam o niell the gaa president is far more in the wrong when he went out of his way to dismiss that there is any sort of drug culture in the gaa

anyway its a stupid argument i did'nt see a whole lot about it in todays clare champion and rightly so there are far more important issues to be dealt with on sunday down in thurles

a win for the footballers leaves them needing one win from there last two games to gain promotion a defeat means a whole lot of trouble

the hurlers also need to bounce back quickly after the dublin game two weeks ago and a win would also be massive in a push for the 1/4 finals

also there are a few people put out about the switching of times and matches with the hurlers now on at 1:15 ant the football now on at 3, n my own opinion its a crazy idea and its going to cause havoc with traffic coming in the neanagh road in the hour before the throw in,

i am led to believe that the switch was made so the footballers would not cut up the pitch , if this is true its a complete joke of a decision and very little consideration was taught out for us travailing a long distance to the game

Clareman

I can't understand playing a division 4 and a division 1 match as a double header, you'll either have people coming in at the end of the football or you'll have everyone leaving as they are coming out on the pitch, but I suppose it makes more sense than having 2 different venues. It does make sense to have the hurling on first, the pitch is more important in hurling than in football so common sense prevails.

windy shepard henderson

it dose'nt if the fixture's have been fixed all year and changed at the last minuet , thurles is one of the best if not the best pitch in the country i doubt it would cut up anymore then having 300 kids run around on it at half time,

it will be crazy on the road entering thurles with everyone arriving at the same time at least with a curtain raiser it allows the crowd to arrive in dribs and drabs gives people an incentive to be in the ground early , i guarantee the throw in will be delayed

it makes sense if tip have home advantage in both codes granted most people will leave after the hurling but regardless of the division there still is a strong 1200 to 1500 average atending clare home football games which is something similar to what the hurlers were getting against poorer opposition in the league before last season , however tipp are having great trouble trying to drum up anything close to that they see this weekend as an opportunity to promote there footballers many of whom have won several honers at under age in the last few years

limerick are doing the same against wexford on sunday aswell and i would like to see us more of it in the future espicaly for home games and maybe give the pitch longer time to recover

Fireball07

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

it dose'nt if the fixture's have been fixed all year and changed at the last minuet , thurles is one of the best if not the best pitch in the country i doubt it would cut up anymore then having 300 kids run around on it at half time,

it will be crazy on the road entering thurles with everyone arriving at the same time at least with a curtain raiser it allows the crowd to arrive in dribs and drabs gives people an incentive to be in the ground early , i guarantee the throw in will be delayed

it makes sense if tip have home advantage in both codes granted most people will leave after the hurling but regardless of the division there still is a strong 1200 to 1500 average atending clare home football games which is something similar to what the hurlers were getting against poorer opposition in the league before last season , however tipp are having great trouble trying to drum up anything close to that they see this weekend as an opportunity to promote there footballers many of whom have won several honers at under age in the last few years

limerick are doing the same against wexford on sunday aswell and i would like to see us more of it in the future espicaly for home games and maybe give the pitch longer time to recover

My colours are nailed firmly to the mast in terms of double headers; I think it's great. Even leaving out the whole "two matches for the price of one" thing, I just think it's great to be able to see your county team twice on one day.

When football and hurling matches are on the same day, then I think they should try and make them double headers if at all possible; I know there are some people who only care about one code but there is also a huge amount who would be interested in both codes and would be more inclined to go if they can see both games.

And I'd hate to have to choose between watching the hurlers and footballers, particularly when the matches are almost equal in importance- as they are this weekend for Limerick. And, when you're playing the same team in both codes, it's an absolute no-brainer to have a double header.


It's something the GAA should do more of.

premierstone

I really think Davy is loosing it, even moreso than normal, Have a read of this paranoid rubbish and tell me the mans not daft as a brush -

Davy Fitzgerald blasts RTÉ for portrayal of sideline histrionics

By Eoghan Cormican

Davy Fitzgerald has criticised RTÉ for their selective footage of the maverick Clare boss on match-day.
Fitzgerald railed against RTÉ for constantly highlighting his over-zealous sideline behaviour, adding that while the camera is in close proximity during his moments of excitable expression, it is nowhere in sight for the remainder of games.

The All-Ireland winning manager has studied Clare games televised by RTÉ and said he featured, on average, for two of 73 minutes per match, more often than not the two minutes where he is going “absolutely nuts”.

As a result of a heart scare back in 2009, Fitzgerald, addressing a physical and mental health seminar at LIT earlier this week, admitted to wearing a heart monitor every time he steps onto the sideline.

The 42-year-old is required to keep his heart rate below a certain level, proof positive, he claimed, that he cuts a composed figure during games, contrary to the image created by RTÉ.

“You will see me on television and say this fella is nuts, absolutely off his game. You will see me two minutes of 73, that is how much RTÉ will show me for. That is fact if you really time it back. They will pick the bits that they want where I fight for my decision,” he argued.

“I have proven with my heart rate monitor that my heart rate is unreal for 95% of a game. I have to be thinking properly because I have to be in a good place for my team which I think is very important.”

Fitzgerald stressed the importance of visualisation on the part of inter-county managers ahead of key championship fixtures, providing an intriguing insight into his method of preparation prior to a game.

“I used visualisation when I was playing, (and) I use it as a manager. Starting 10 days before a game I will do three 20-minute sessions each day where for the first five minutes I will sit down and close my eyes and just see nothing, totally chill out. For the next 15 minutes I will visualise everything.

“As a manager I will visualise how I am going to be with different players. I will visualise the message I want to get across all week — whether it is tight or not, you really have to be on your player and give him no space; I want the ball hit into this space and not hit into that space. I will be making up these messages all the time building up to a match.

“I will visualise how I am going to be the day of a game, how I am going to fight for my position and then bring my heart rate straight back down afterwards because I do wear a heart rate monitor all the time. Visualisation helps me so much. The one thing I would suggest to any management is give yourself that bit of time to work on your mind, it is as good as any training you will do. If you’re mind isn’t right you’re finished, no matter what your sport.”

RTÉ defended their decision to consistently air footage of Fitzgerald’s sideline antics. “It is par for the course that the most entertaining elements of a game be shown, even those which take place away from the action,” said a RTÉ spokesperson.

“Davy is a passionate man and of course we will show the moments where he is getting excited, that goes for all managers. We want to show the viewer the most exciting parts of a game, no broadcaster anywhere in the world will show the viewer the boring elements of a game.”

Meanwhile, former Clare hurler Daithí O’Connell has labelled Fitzgerald a clown in the wake of his comments that alcohol and substance abuse was a problem in the Clare senior hurling panel in the middle of the last decade.

O’Connell, who featured on the Clare team between 2003-07, tweeted on Wednesday: “Undecided about my pre-training meal tonight, a bag of charlie [brown heroine] or three disco biscuits [MDMA]? Which ever I decide I’ll wash it down with a vodka.”

Other Clare hurlers have called on Fitzgerald to clarify his comments so each player who operated in the saffron and blue during the alleged period of alcohol and substance abuse are not tarnished with the one brush.

lukin

It's not for just two minutes of a game that he is going absolutely nuts on the sideline, he's like that for the whole game. Constantly harassing the linesman and the referee when he comes near the line.

999/112

premierstone wrote: »

I really think Davy is loosing it, even moreso than normal, Have a read of this paranoid rubbish and tell me the mans not daft as a brush -

Davy Fitzgerald blasts RTÉ for portrayal of sideline histrionics

By Eoghan Cormican

Davy Fitzgerald has criticised RTÉ for their selective footage of the maverick Clare boss on match-day.
Fitzgerald railed against RTÉ for constantly highlighting his over-zealous sideline behaviour, adding that while the camera is in close proximity during his moments of excitable expression, it is nowhere in sight for the remainder of games.

The All-Ireland winning manager has studied Clare games televised by RTÉ and said he featured, on average, for two of 73 minutes per match, more often than not the two minutes where he is going “absolutely nuts”.

As a result of a heart scare back in 2009, Fitzgerald, addressing a physical and mental health seminar at LIT earlier this week, admitted to wearing a heart monitor every time he steps onto the sideline.

The 42-year-old is required to keep his heart rate below a certain level, proof positive, he claimed, that he cuts a composed figure during games, contrary to the image created by RTÉ.

“You will see me on television and say this fella is nuts, absolutely off his game. You will see me two minutes of 73, that is how much RTÉ will show me for. That is fact if you really time it back. They will pick the bits that they want where I fight for my decision,” he argued.

“I have proven with my heart rate monitor that my heart rate is unreal for 95% of a game. I have to be thinking properly because I have to be in a good place for my team which I think is very important.”

Fitzgerald stressed the importance of visualisation on the part of inter-county managers ahead of key championship fixtures, providing an intriguing insight into his method of preparation prior to a game.

“I used visualisation when I was playing, (and) I use it as a manager. Starting 10 days before a game I will do three 20-minute sessions each day where for the first five minutes I will sit down and close my eyes and just see nothing, totally chill out. For the next 15 minutes I will visualise everything.

“As a manager I will visualise how I am going to be with different players. I will visualise the message I want to get across all week — whether it is tight or not, you really have to be on your player and give him no space; I want the ball hit into this space and not hit into that space. I will be making up these messages all the time building up to a match.

“I will visualise how I am going to be the day of a game, how I am going to fight for my position and then bring my heart rate straight back down afterwards because I do wear a heart rate monitor all the time. Visualisation helps me so much. The one thing I would suggest to any management is give yourself that bit of time to work on your mind, it is as good as any training you will do. If you’re mind isn’t right you’re finished, no matter what your sport.”

RTÉ defended their decision to consistently air footage of Fitzgerald’s sideline antics. “It is par for the course that the most entertaining elements of a game be shown, even those which take place away from the action,” said a RTÉ spokesperson.

“Davy is a passionate man and of course we will show the moments where he is getting excited, that goes for all managers. We want to show the viewer the most exciting parts of a game, no broadcaster anywhere in the world will show the viewer the boring elements of a game.”

Meanwhile, former Clare hurler Daithí O’Connell has labelled Fitzgerald a clown in the wake of his comments that alcohol and substance abuse was a problem in the Clare senior hurling panel in the middle of the last decade.

O’Connell, who featured on the Clare team between 2003-07, tweeted on Wednesday: “Undecided about my pre-training meal tonight, a bag of charlie [brown heroine] or three disco biscuits [MDMA]? Which ever I decide I’ll wash it down with a vodka.”

Other Clare hurlers have called on Fitzgerald to clarify his comments so each player who operated in the saffron and blue during the alleged period of alcohol and substance abuse are not tarnished with the one brush.

Can't wait for the book!

Figerty

999/112 wrote: »

Can't wait for the book!

Somebody already wrote it for him..

keeponhurling

So far so good, hurlers leading Tipp by 3-7 to 0-7

angelfire9

keeponhurling wrote: »

So far so good, hurlers leading Tipp by 3-7 to 0-7

All Tipp now though
3-8 to 0-14

MyPeopleDrankTheSoup

is the tipp game highlights on any channel anytime?

windy shepard henderson

georgiecasey wrote: »

is the tipp game highlights on any channel anytime?

its on rte 2 at half 7

Boots234

Bad result for the footballers today, looks like they need either Leitrim or Tipp to slip up. Throwing away the 2 point lead against Leitrim could cost us in the end

windy shepard henderson

Boots234 wrote: »

Bad result for the footballers today, looks like they need either Leitrim or Tipp to slip up. Throwing away the 2 point lead against Leitrim could cost us in the end

it was a bad performance from some of the key lads today but tipperary are a descent side up front with some good young forwards but the difference came down to goals

both sides were presented with 4 goal chances each tip took 3 of them with the other a saved penalty by peirce de loughrey before half time, clare hit the side netting twice from close range in both halves and struggled to finnish any of there key goal chances when presented

the real dissapointing aspect was the fact that most of the hurling supporters stayed to offer support to the footballers as a resulet they had the bulk of the support and probabley played there worst game of the league

all is not lost however the league is now down to a 3 horse race with letrim hosting tipp in two weeks time a 4 point plus victory over carlow would be enough to go 2nd going into the last game of the league

windy shepard henderson

the hurlers on the other hand will garuntee themselves a place in the 1/4 finals next week if they beat waterford in ennis after beating a makeshift tip side by 7 points

the scoreline might be impressive but there are still worrying signs in midfield especially on our own puc outs , with john conlon the only player that seems to be able to win his own ball

pat o connor and connor mcgrath along with conlon seem to be our best performers over the league although peter duggen had a fine game again today honan still looks injured and only lasted 15 or 20 mins today. descent performance all round considering podge or tony kelly didnt start

at the same time its no time to start lighting bonfires tipp gave us a bigger hiding last year which was a bit of a wake up call at the time and today they were nowhere near full strenght today nor anywhere near there best for that matter

premierstone

premierstone wrote: »

I really think Davy is loosing it, even moreso than normal, Have a read of this paranoid rubbish and tell me the mans not daft as a brush -

I think us Tipp fans can be too critical of Davy tbh. Look at the workrate of Clare yesterday for example. A bad manager would not get that level of effort out of them and dont forget these are the current all Ireland champions. You'd imagine the bit of sharpness would drop but instead you had Conor Mcgrath chasing down everything and even little Tots O'Connell who put Forde and Bourke at the other end to shame.

Radio5

lukin wrote: »

It's not for just two minutes of a game that he is going absolutely nuts on the sideline, he's like that for the whole game. Constantly harassing the linesman and the referee when he comes near the line.

Whereas all other inter-county managers stand still, as silent as Trappist monks during matches. :rolleyes:

GrandSoftDay

Radio5 wrote: »

Whereas all other inter-county managers stand still, as silent as Trappist monks during matches. :rolleyes:

He does have a habit of encroaching onto the field in fairness. Cody gets fairly heated on the sideline too though. Jimmy Barry Murphy and John Allen seem to stay very cool though.

keeponhurling

I'd prefer if Davy was more concerned with players getting back and marking up, rather than abusing the referee.
He's supposed to lead the players.
The referee he can't control.

He's a great manager though

buck65

GrandSoftDay wrote: »

He does have a habit of encroaching onto the field in fairness. Cody gets fairly heated on the sideline too though. Jimmy Barry Murphy and John Allen seem to stay very cool though.

No they're just puzzled by Clare's tactics, they're thinking.

windy shepard henderson

there were a couple of games on tonight in both hurling and football that are of importance to clare gaa

the footballers go back into second place without playing and look set for promotion if they win there remaining two games, if tipperary beat leitrim and clare beat carlow in ennis next week it will almost guarantee a date for both sides in croke park at the end of April

dublins 3point win tonight in parnell park makes tomorrows game against waterford even more important now, a win will put clare top and guarantee a place in the 1/4 finals a defeat will mean the lossers of the galway clare game next week will face a relagation playoff and thats the last ting any of us want

no sign of any official team news but i would imagine paul flanagen will start tomorrow instead of the injured seanda morey , its good to see him finally get a start but he will have massive shoe's to fill

honan is also out with a hamstring injury which will probably see a return to the starting line up for shane o donnell who probabley needs a big performance if he dose start

windy shepard henderson

the clare team for tomorrow against waterford no paul flanagen , donal o donovan is recalled for morey, podge starts, tony kelly is rested

1. Donal Tuohy
2. Domhnall O Donovan
3. Cian Dillon
4. David McInerney
5. Brendan Bugler
6. Conor Ryan
7. Pat O'Connor
8. Pat Donnellan
9. Colin Ryan
10. Peter Duggan
11. Podge Collins
12. John Conlon
13. Cathal McInerney
14. Shane O'Donnell
15. Conor McGrath

GrandSoftDay

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

the clare team for tomorrow against waterford no paul flanagen , donal o donovan is recalled for morey, podge starts, tony kelly is rested

1. Donal Tuohy
2. Domhnall O Donovan
3. Cian Dillon
4. David McInerney
5. Brendan Bugler
6. Conor Ryan
7. Pat O'Connor
8. Pat Donnellan
9. Colin Ryan
10. Peter Duggan
11. Podge Collins
12. John Conlon
13. Cathal McInerney
14. Shane O'Donnell
15. Conor McGrath

Nice to see cathal mc getting a start!!

windy shepard henderson

GrandSoftDay wrote: »

Nice to see cathal mc getting a start!!

agreed he is a class act very impressed with him last year any time he came off the bench he made a huge impact, himself and mcgrath worked well together in the wexford game

it looks like an impressive line up even without tony kelly , peter duggen had a fine game against tipp last week and deserves his start again

one thing i would be looking out for tommorow is our puck outs and how we vary them i taught we were on dementional last week and tipperary saw through it at times in the second half and started to dominate

Boots234

Boots234 wrote: »

Bad result for the footballers today, looks like they need either Leitrim or Tipp to slip up. Throwing away the 2 point lead against Leitrim could cost us in the end

Looks like Leitrim have slipped up as they lost by 5 points to Waterford tonight. Waterford have now beaten Tipperary and drawn with Leitrim but lost at home to London. Leitrim are playing Tipp next

windy shepard henderson

Boots234 wrote: »

Looks like Leitrim have slipped up as they lost by 5 points to Waterford tonight. Waterford have now beaten Tipperary and drawn with Leitrim but lost at home to London. Leitrim are playing Tipp next

leitrim had there good run but it was'nt going to last infairness they did beat galway, rosscommon and antrim before the game in miltown last month and infairness were a little lucky to pick up a draw getting two very late points

i still think they will give tipperary a close run in carrig on shannon but i expect tipp to win it. in truth tipperary are probably good enough to be playing division 2 at the moment

should they win and clare put up a big score at home to carlow it will probably be enough to get them over the line ahead of the antrim game

Hidalgo

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

agreed he is a class act very impressed with him last year any time he came off the bench he made a huge impact, himself and mcgrath worked well together in the wexford game

it looks like an impressive line up even without tony kelly , peter duggen had a fine game against tipp last week and deserves his start again

one thing i would be looking out for tommorow is our puck outs and how we vary them i taught we were on dementional last week and tipperary saw through it at times in the second half and started to dominate

At times Tuohy's puck outs leave a bit to be desired imo.
Too much height (lobbed style) on them which allows opposition defences to cover across to where the puck out is aimed. Lower trajectory helps team=mates who have found a small bit of space or are running into an open channel.

Big opportunity again for Duggan, hopefully both he and Catal Mac can make the most of it.

windy shepard henderson

serious first half performance today it was impossable to ask anyone to repeat that in the second half , waterford were very very poor for most of the game but did well to claw back some respectability on the board with 15 or 16 points in the second half but in truth the game was played at a junior pace by then

interesting stat though about what a difference home advantage makes , clare's win down in thurles last week is the only away victory for any team in the league so far , and thankfuly it is enough to keep us away from the drop zone this year and into the last 8

Keano

First half..best hurling we've played since All Ireland replay

Second half...terrible, yes the game was over but no team should be coming to Ennis and scoring that many points in the second half!