Clare GAA discussion thread

Clareman

So we're a week out from an All Ireland Quarter Final, this time last week we were slight favourites to win Munster and for ~34 minutes we were coasting so lets look at next week.

We have serious problems in midfield and half forwards, they haven't played well in any game, our centre forward seems to be brought back to hold up between midfield and half backs but hasn't played well there. I'd imagine Wexford will play a sweeper and try to crowd the middle third, in a strange way this could suit Clare. I think Clare have to drop either SoD or Kelly, I'd drop both but I think that'd be too much of a change in 2 weeks, SoD would be a better sub to bring on so drop him for McGrath, if we pull the half forwards back like we tend to do Wexfords sweeper will destroy us so I think we need to keep our half forwards pushed up.

No confirmation of venue yet but I'd assume it'll be Cork, traffic could be a nightmare with Limerick travelling as well but I'd say it'll be a small Clare crowd next week, anyone I've talked to are seriously disillusioned by this team now.

Gaatalk

Yes Id agree with Clareman id drop Tony Kelly and Shane O'Donnell together if could but to be realistic Shane ODonnell needs to go first. Then drop Tony Kelly thereafter. None of them have played upto scratch with 5 years.
Yes the midfield and half forwards very poor and unconsistent and the backline as we know already not upto it either. Players have to be dropped here too in midfield half forward line and the backline.
Anyway I expect Wexford to drive on and beat Clare. They physically hammered them in the league this year and dethroned Clare in 2014 so Wexford with Davy dont fear Clare and they will drive on now. For Clare am afraid it has been a false dawn with Donal Moloney and Gerry O'Connor. They will be remembered after all this as the two that inherited an all ireland winning team from Davy (who they managed to success at underage) that got tamely to two munster finals and failed in both to Cork before tamely exiting the All Ireland series. I agree there wont be many clare fans at the next match wherever its played as the fans got let down so badly by a team that suposedly were favourites to win munster. Clare fans wont go to Clare matches from here in unless they by miracle get to the all ireland final and even then if its Cork they could loose 3 times alone to them this year though have the record for beating Cork in an all ireland final but u would not think it the way they have lost to Cork in every senior hurling championship game in Munster since 1997 or 98!! It truly is time for all concerned getting the managers to step down they probably will anyway after loss to Wexford next Sunday.

windy shepard henderson

Disgrace that the gaa are bringing the 1/4 final to cork , expect a very low attendance , the place is a complete bottle neck one of the worst venues in the country to get in and out of

3 o'clock next Saturday

Clareman

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

Disgrace that the gaa are bringing the 1/4 final to cork , expect a very low attendance , the place is a complete bottle neck one of the worst venues in the country to get in and out of

3 o'clock next Saturday

That's a disgrace, no double header or anything. Looking at the weekend's fixtures it can only be assumed that it's for TV that it's being played on Saturday. There'll be a tiny Clare crowd at it

Gaatalk

Its a disgrace but thats what happens a weak hurling county as such as Clare who win an all ireland now and again but annually dont really be a threat or loose big games and prov. finals.
Look Cork are laughing at Clare because last year they beat Clare in munster final and then clare had to travel down to Cork to play Tipperary. It was fine for Tipperary as they bounds Cork. Clare dont. But look the clare management and team didnt whinge or say nothing just went along with it. The clare fans travelled down too and Tipperary that day had too much for Clare. 12 months later and the same capers again only that Clare loose even in better style to Cork in munster championship once in round robin and again in final and here we go again the poor clares are been expected again to go to cork to play wexford. Clare were always going to loose to Wexford and the fans were not going to go anyway after the collapse in 2nd half of munster final. The GAA have made sure even less Clare fans will go now so in a way been cynical they have made clare peoples minds up they wont be at the match to witness another loss anyway. While I dont agree at all with playing it in Cork.At the start of the championship they got little clare support in Cork and Clare lost it but commented in how little travelled. In the munster final Clare fans came out in their droves but Clare still lost!
I bet Tony Kelly and Shane O' Donnell and Cathal Malone and Conor Clery wont be dropped for the game either or any of the backs.
Id be awful surprised if Davy from Clare does not get the Wexford win on Saturday next.

Cant loose next Saturday there is a Clare Manager over both teams hehe☺☺

Keano

Your disdain for this team is so sad. Till the day I die I will shout for my county, yes I will be critical and annoyed year after year but generations before us never saw Clare win anything. I have seen us win 3 senior All Ireland's and when I am old and wrinkly I will tell everyone who is crazy enough to listen how much I enjoyed watching my county.

Gael85

Gaatalk wrote: »

Its a disgrace but thats what happens a weak hurling county as such as Clare who win an all ireland now and again but annually dont really be a threat or loose big games and prov. finals.
Look Cork are laughing at Clare because last year they beat Clare in munster final and then clare had to travel down to Cork to play Tipperary. It was fine for Tipperary as they bounds Cork. Clare dont. But look the clare management and team didnt whinge or say nothing just went along with it. The clare fans travelled down too and Tipperary that day had too much for Clare. 12 months later and the same capers again only that Clare loose even in better style to Cork in munster championship once in round robin and again in final and here we go again the poor clares are been expected again to go to cork to play wexford. Clare were always going to loose to Wexford and the fans were not going to go anyway after the collapse in 2nd half of munster final. The GAA have made sure even less Clare fans will go now so in a way been cynical they have made clare peoples minds up they wont be at the match to witness another loss anyway. While I dont agree at all with playing it in Cork. At the start of the championship they got little clare support in Cork and Clare lost it but commented in how little travelled. In the munster final Clare fans came out in their droves but Clare still lost!I personally dont feel too sorry for the team let them go out and either win or loose the game.
I bet Tony Kelly and Shane O' Donnell and Cathal Malone and Conor Clery wont be dropped for the game either or any of the backs.
Id be awful surprised if Davy from Clare does not get the Wexford win on Saturday next.

Cant loose next Saturday there is a Clare Manager over both teams hehe☺☺

Your out of order with your snide remarks about amateur players. It great to hide behind your keyboard typing that nonsense. Some of them players deserve to be dropped but some of the stuff you've written is just over the top.

Gael85

Keano wrote: »

Your disdain for this team is so sad. Till the day I die I will shout for my county, yes I will be critical and annoyed year after year but generations before us never saw Clare win anything. I have seen us win 3 senior All Ireland's and when I am old and wrinkly I will tell everyone who is crazy enough to listen how much I enjoyed watching my county.

I doubt GAAmatters is a Clare supporter

Clareman

Gaatalk wrote: »

Its a disgrace but thats what happens a weak hurling county as such as Clare who win an all ireland now and again but annually dont really be a threat or loose big games and prov. finals.

Clare have won as many All Ireland's in the past 25 years than Cork and Tipp, I assume you are calling Cork and Tipp weak hurling counties also.

Look Cork are laughing at Clare because last year they beat Clare in munster final and then the clare gombeens had to travel down to Cork to play Tipperary. It was fine for Tipperary as they bounds Cork. Clare dont. But look the clare management and team didnt whinge or say nothing just went along with it like fools.

It was the opening of a massive new stadium and all the quarter finals were fixed for there over the weekend.

The clare fans were bigger fools and travelled down too and Tipperary that day had too much for Clare.

Did you want the game last year against Clare and Tipp??? I don't think Tipp had too much for Clare, rather Clare didn't take their chances.

12 months later and the same capers again only that Clare loose even in better style to Cork in munster championship once in round robin and again in final

I agree with this, Clare were better this year than last year, still lost though.

and here we go again the poor clares are been expected again to go to cork to play wexford.

I don't think the nuns will be travelling.

Clare were always going to loose to Wexford and the fans were not going to go anyway after the collapse in 2nd half of munster final.

Can you see into the future? Wexford are 9/4 to win next weekend, you clearly know more than the bookies.

The GAA have made sure even less Clare fans will go now so in a way been cynical they have made clare peoples minds up they wont be at the match to witness another loss anyway.

There will be a small Clare crowd there next week, that's for sure

While I dont agree at all with playing it in Cork, at the same time Clare team and management deserve very little support for this game.

Every county deserves to be supported, the sacrifice and commitment those involved at intercounty level means everyone deserves to be supported.

At the start of the championship they got little clare support in Cork and Clare lost it but commented in how little travelled.

It was the first round of the championship away from home, very few away teams had a good support

In the munster final Clare fans came out in their droves but Clare still lost! So people are sick of it Clare team has earned no respect because on big days they have flopped.

Mayo are lucky to have any support so by your analysis.

I personally dont feel too sorry for the team let them go out and either win or loose the game. Fans wont be playing inside the white lines! Serves them right.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion

I bet Tony Kelly and Shane O' Donnell and Cathal Malone and Conor Clery wont be dropped for the game either or any of the backs.

That's a pretty safe bet, no team could change a third of their team in 2 weeks. I'd be surprised if there isn't changes for the next day, I'd imagine in the backs and 1 in the forwards.

Id be awful surprised if Davy from Clare does not get the Wexford win on Saturday next.

9/4 in the bookies, fill your boots

Clare have the annual Willie Clancy Festival mecca and Conor Clery would be better off if he went back to Miltown and took up music or stuck to his auld football. The same with Malone! The Munster Fleadh Cheoil then is on in Ennis next week shur Shane O'Donnell would be better off if he took up music too or danced.

In Clare we love our traditional music but we love our hurling more.

Cant loose next Saturday there is a Clare Manager over both teams hehe☺☺

Can't win either as there'll be a losing Clare manager also

seligehgit

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tototoe

Complete joke bringing people from wexford and clare to PUC again. ...but I suppose someone has to pay for franks shiny new stadium. One of the worst stadiums to get to and get out off imo.

pajoguy

Leave early enough, park in town and stroll out. Hav a bit to eat after match and tipp on home. Get out and support yere team and stop complaining about having to go to cork. Its an all ireand quarter final. Whats all this talk about a yellow wall when ye complain having to go here and there. Ye have recent success I cant understand it. Look at Mayo supporters. Through hell or high water to see their team and not 1 sam maguire to show for it on heartache.

opinionated3

pajoguy wrote: »

Leave early enough, park in town and stroll out. Hav a bit to eat after match and tipp on home. Get out and support yere team and stop complaining about having to go to cork. Its an all ireand quarter final. Whats all this talk about a yellow wall when ye complain having to go here and there. Ye have recent success I cant understand it. Look at Mayo supporters. Through hell or high water to see their team and not 1 sam maguire to show for it on heartache.

Hard to have a yellow wall when only one terrace is open and it happens to be the one that the Wexford fans would be heading to (blackrock end).

Sterling Archer

I other News the Ladies started off their All-Ireland series with a Win at the weekend

windy shepard henderson

pajoguy wrote: »

Leave early enough, park in town and stroll out. Hav a bit to eat after match and tipp on home. Get out and support yere team and stop complaining about having to go to cork. Its an all ireand quarter final. Whats all this talk about a yellow wall when ye complain having to go here and there. Ye have recent success I cant understand it. Look at Mayo supporters. Through hell or high water to see their team and not 1 sam maguire to show for it on heartache.

Its the worst venue in the country , when they were pumping money into the stadium they should have atleast done something about the parking , any venue in this day and age that takes an hour or more to get out of is shambolic


You are completely right about the "yellow wall" and great Clare support , bar the same few thousand that go to all the games ,league and championship in general the clare support is a disgrace

I was in limerick the day mayo played there last month , from coonagh cross to sarsfields bridge was a sea of green and red thats how you support a team , sadly most Clare support will only turn up for a final and disappear again its embarrassing to be fair

Gaatalk

I have been so lucky to see Clare win 3 hurling all irelands 3 senior munster championships and one senior munster football championship (back in 92) in my lifetime so far considering they have 5 in total when include the club one at the start. I will never stop supporting Clare and keep in touch with matters Clare. I am so proud to come from Clare.

Il admit I was so cross but really am disappointed as this team potentially had one if not two munster titles in them and they have none and I also fear that they wont win another all ireland. I really hope I am wrong! I look to Clare to cheer me up with other disappointments and sadness! I regret if I was too cross but we are not learning from our mistakes so far quick enough.

Clareman

Gaatalk wrote: »

I have been so lucky to see Clare win 3 hurling all irelands 3 senior munster championships and one senior munster football championship (back in 92) in my lifetime so far considering they have 5 in total when include the club one at the start. I will never stop supporting Clare and keep in touch with matters Clare. I am so proud to come from Clare.

Il admit I was so cross but really am disappointed as this team potentially had one if not two munster titles in them and they have none and I also fear that they wont win another all ireland. I really hope I am wrong! I look to Clare to cheer me up with other disappointments and sadness! I regret if I was too cross but we are not learning from our mistakes so far quick enough.

There was only ~32k people at the Munster final in 95, more than half of that were Limerick people, in my opinion there's a core of ~12k Clare supporters that will go no matter what the rest is bandwagon jumpers. For the match on Saturday, the fact that it's on a Saturday will have a massive impact on support, I for 1 can't go as Mrs. Clareman is working and I'm sure there's a lot of people in the same boat as me. Throw in the abysmal performance in the second half the last day a lot more won't travel to a pain in the hole of a stadium, I would say playing the game in Cork on Saturday versus Thurles on Sunday will mean over 5k Clare people won't travel.

keeponhurling

It's not a big deal, but what was the logic of playing it in Cork? Maybe it favours us as we have played there more often than Wexford probably.
I'd have expected a double header in Thurles with Limerick/KK (triple header if you play a minor match beforehand)
In the past, quarter finals used to be a great double header, usually in Thurles.

Gaatalk

Clareman wrote: »

There was only ~32k people at the Munster final in 95, more than half of that were Limerick people, in my opinion there's a core of ~12k Clare supporters that will go no matter what the rest is bandwagon jumpers. For the match on Saturday, the fact that it's on a Saturday will have a massive impact on support, I for 1 can't go as Mrs. Clareman is working and I'm sure there's a lot of people in the same boat as me. Throw in the abysmal performance in the second half the last day a lot more won't travel to a pain in the hole of a stadium, I would say playing the game in Cork on Saturday versus Thurles on Sunday will mean over 5k Clare people won't travel.

Thats the problem the bandwagon suporters wont travel on Saturday and not all of the remaining loyal clare fans like us will be able to go because of the day its on, the time, and the place. On top of all that if somehow Clare get to the all ireland or win it yet (wouldnt it be mighty) some of the bandwagon supporters will get tickets and thats wrong too! I always maintained especially in 2013 (not so much in the initial 95, 97 all irelands or in 1914!) that Clare can be a hooley county. Thats grand but loyal fans who followed Clare long b4 they won titles and were pretend commentators in their youth like I was that Clare are munster champions are the ones that sometimes then fail to get all ireland tkts! Also some of the bandwagon supporters dont really get too disappointed or overjoyed about the result win loose or draw so long as they up in Dublin for the prematch hooley or post match hooley! Indeed some of the bandwagon supporters have had it far too easy nearly always witnessing the glory and the win of the title! If get the win too easy while been there but not a loyal follower then they dont appreciate the importance of it and what been from your own place and county really means! Anyway also can be sure these wont be on boards.ie loosing sleep regards Clare team either. When all is said and done I hope Clare see PUC next Saturday as just a field with 4 lines to win a match and move on to semifinal and try beat Cork in Dublin then! I hope they improve going forward in the areas they need to otherwise the season will be over. On a separate matter what a shame the price fans have to pay for a tremendous round robin prov championship is rapping up the all ireland by mid august! Thats wrong too short a summer season and september will sound like autumn winter too early. A long way from august to february. Just not right! Also September will be very boring Sundays bar club matches and that wont interest the neutrals around the country! I really think the GAA has lost the plot with it. Had a perfect product but too much tweeking and no regard for tradition culture etc. If it hurts them in the pocket and backfires they might review it quickly and revert to playing the finals in September. August is commonly the month for official holidays in Ireland/UK/Europe and its a bit much for the GAA to expect even loyal fans to change their plans their childrens plans etc to be at the finals. Its wrong! The only thing is maybe less of the bandwagoners will be taking tickets as have other things to do!

Clareman

keeponhurling wrote: »

It's not a big deal, but what was the logic of playing it in Cork? Maybe it favours us as we have played there more often than Wexford probably.
I'd have expected a double header in Thurles with Limerick/KK (triple header if you play a minor match beforehand)
In the past, quarter finals used to be a great double header, usually in Thurles.

Super 8s are starting this weekend so there's already a full schedule of games, I'd imagine the GAA's preferred option would have been to have a double header on Saturday but that would mean that Kilkenny would have had a 6 day turn around which would be unfair. As it is playing in this heat at 3 is going to be a struggle for both teams.

Looking at the TV schedule for the weekend, there's 3 matches on TV on Saturday (Clare v Wex at 3, Tyrone v Ros at 5 and Dublin v Donegal at 7) and 3 games on Sunday (KK v Lim and Kildare v Monaghan at 2, Kerry v Galway at 4), there isn't a whole lot of time left open for games.

puzl

Kilkenny would have had a 6 day turn around which would be unfair.

I really hope they have started to think like this. Nobody seemed to give a flying f when Cork had to face Limerick on their 3rd weekend in a row with a 6 day turn around. Comfortable moaning about this because I'm not a Cork supporter, but you'd have to feel for the teams that were put in these situations. I think if Limerick win by a small margin, the KK public will, righly so, consider this a "what if" season.

finbarrk

Poor tickets available in Centra for Saturday. The tickets.ie mobile website have some better sections.

Sweet.Science

Anyone know how the Clare Cup is going ?

Anyone from the remaining teams standing out

Gaatalk

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Anyone know how the Clare Cup is going ?

Anyone from the remaining teams standing out

Look the Clare Cup (Snr.Club Hurling league) and the Cusack Cup (Snr. Club Football) are a waste of time. No good games, no sizable fan attendances. No new intercounty senior players found from neither the Club Hurling League or the County Championship so id say at this stage a bit late to be searching!

Gaatalk

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Anyone know how the Clare Cup is going ?

Anyone from the remaining teams standing out

I am not sure if you more proclub follower than intercounty follower? but in any case Clare are not at an advanced stage of the hurling or football championship despite the fact that the GAA have messed up the intercounty championship season for intercounty neutrals by having April as a month off intercounty senior games and by destroying the championship by rapping up the hurling by mid august, all to accomodate the clubs!! The same clubs in clare that didnt run off good few rounds in april. If the intercounty season was to be changed for clubs which i did not agree with the least clubs like in clare should have done is change as otherwise both club and county products both now messed up and clubs are the cause of a lot of it.

Gaatalk

finbarrk wrote: »

Poor tickets available in Centra for Saturday. The tickets.ie mobile website have some better sections.

Look in any of the modern stadiums u can get a good view point from anywhere in the ground!
Whats poor about the ticket! It wont make a difference if Clare loose as expected. I hope you not a hop on the bandwagon supporter as ive found from experience that it is those type supporters that are fussy and not happy with ticket they get! I hope I am wrong and you are a loyal fan but you know a lot of loyal fans not able to go or going Saturday so your lucky if can!
I suspect however the irony of it is Clare team will welcome the hop on tge bandwagon supporters too after their collapse in the 2nd half of Munster final against Cork for 2nd year in a row. Come on the banner!

keeponhurling

^So the loyal supporters are those who can't go, and the ones who can go are on the bandwagon. Or something like that.

The bandwagoners like a good view, whereas the loyal fans would be delighted with a restricted view, right in behind a pillar or something

Stationmaster

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Anyone know how the Clare Cup is going ?

Anyone from the remaining teams standing out

Newmarket, Kilmaley, Clonlara and Inagh Kilnamona. I think it's NOF v IK and Kil v Clon in the semi finals.

Championship due to start then in august whenever the seniors are out and will be run every second weekend.

Gaatalk

keeponhurling wrote: »

^So the loyal supporters are those who can't go, and the ones who can go are on the bandwagon. Or something like that.

The bandwagoners like a good view, whereas the loyal fans would be delighted with a restricted view, right in behind a pillar or something

Ah you are hurt so you are id say does the truth hurt you. Obviously you are a bandwagoner imo.
You dont get it do you there is no restricted view or poor ticket anymore and you see loyal fans will take any ticket but a bandwagoner that wagons like you are always fussy! What you need is to sit on top of the thorny wire fence where u could see all and a great view but feel the pinch of the thorny wire. The minnions ie loyal fans could sit behind you in a less view but more comforable seat. Going hop on the bandwagon and believe that no such thing as a poor ticket just all in the fussy head.

Gaatalk

Stationmaster wrote: »

Newmarket, Kilmaley, Clonlara and Inagh Kilnamona. I think it's NOF v IK and Kil v Clon in the semi finals.

Championship due to start then in august whenever the seniors are out and will be run every second weekend.

Ha Championship due to start in August why didnt it start in April wasnt that why April was a closed intercounty season! Inagh Kilnamona thats 2 different parishes/clubs is it? What a cod! Its strange how keen ye are on the auld club winter cod of stuff and yet will still be late october or november b4 co final playedðŸ˜
Wherè would one b going yet Cork and counties like them can run off their club championship
in conjunction with the intercounty championship!!! No wonder Clare finding no new senior players!! Too much molly coddling of clubs going on. Going play without yer county players or county players going play with clubs.