Clare GAA discussion thread

Claregaafan18

Looks like there is serious trouble in the Clare ladies football camp after another loss to Tipp in the Ladies NFL Division 2 last Saturday in Doonbeg. Amy O'Shea who was selector/coach of the James Murrihy managed side, has announced that she has left the management team. The Cork native expressed her anger at the lack of available grass pitches for the Clare ladies footballers plus the lack of some of the most basic equipment gear which inter-county teams take for granted as a given. She said that once the new year came along, in her words "Everything fell apart come January"

Serious questions must be raised over James Murrihy management skills after in effect telling Amy O'Shea promises that clearly were not kept. Also I think the Clare LFGA must also have major questions to answer over the appointment of Murrihy which was mired in controversy last year after Barry Donnelly, the other candidate for the manager's job pulled out of the race due to issues regarding the appointment process. Finally it is clear that funding for the Clare ladies football senior team is simply not good enough and unacceptable. Therefore the executive of Clare LFGA must face huge accountability by delegates and those that care about the big ball in the county.

Tell me how

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This is a common experience of ladies footballers nationwide unfortunately. I remember hearing a panel on Newstalk where a kildare ladies footballer or coach outlined how they had to rent a pitch from the county board at a cost of €80. Cost of entry for the game was €5 and they had 14 people who paid in meaning that they lost €10 through putting on the game.

It is criminally under supplied and must be very disconcerting for all involved when they see tales of men's teams having paid coaches at club level and training camps abroad and so on for some inter-county men's panels.

Clareman

Tell me how wrote: »

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This is a common experience of ladies footballers nationwide unfortunately. I remember hearing a panel on Newstalk where a kildare ladies footballer or coach outlined how they had to rent a pitch from the county board at a cost of €80. Cost of entry for the game was €5 and they had 14 people who paid in meaning that they lost €10 through putting on the game.

It is criminally under supplied and must be very disconcerting for all involved when they see tales of men's teams having paid coaches at club level and training camps abroad and so on for some inter-county men's panels.

Unfortunately as the LGFA is a seperate organisation to the GAA and Camoige they shouldn't be compared to others, personally it annoys me no end that boys have 1 membership fee each year to allow them play everything but the girls have 2, all that does it make families make a decision as to whether it's worth it or not. Also, I was at an under 12 ladies football game and I had to pay €5 entry to go into it, a lot of people just sat in their cars watching from the car park while 2 officals looked for money off people.

Sorry, this isn't really a Clare GAA issue, more an overall issue but it does annoy me.

Claregaafan18

Fantastic news this evening relating to the game of handball. Kilkishen's Colin Crehan and Tuamgraney's Diarmuid Nash has won the 2018 All-Ireland Doubles Handball championship after beating Cavan's Paul Brady and Michael Finnegan 15-21, 21-14 and 21-3.

In other great news for Clare handball, Tiernan Agnew and Mark Rodgers completed a famous senior/minor double for the Banner county after beating Kilkenny duo Padraig Foley and Eoin Brennan 21-2, 19-21 and 21-1 in the minor doubles final. Congrats to one and all. They are a credit to their families and the county.

Tell me how

Claregaafan18 wrote:

In other great news for Clare handball, Tiernan Agnew and Mark Rodgers completed a famous senior/minor double for the Banner county after beating Kilkenny duo Padraig Foley and Eoin Brennan 21-2, 19-21 and 21-1 in the minor doubles final. Congrats to one and all. They are a credit to their families and the county.

Some swing in scoring in each game there.

Stationmaster

Don't anyone say there's no dual clubs in East Clare!!

Great weekend for Clare handball and well done to the 4 lads. 4 right good hurlers too.

finbarrk

Minor Footballers out tomorrow evening in The Park. Presume that's U17 now.
http://munster.gaa.ie/2018/04/09/electric-ireland-munster-gaa-football-minor-championship-quarter-final-clare-v-limerick/

Claregaafan18

There is a lot of criticism towards the Clare U17 football management team for not naming a team for tomorrow's Munster Championship match against Limerick until shortly before throw-in. They say that there are some injuries in the camp which they hope that will clear up by tomorrow evening. Derrick Lynch is fuming. The Clare FM head of sport has his brother - Damien Lynch involved in the panel. With a team being named around 5 pm tomorrow evening, he is saying that this will give "young lads no time to get their heads right for the biggest game of their lives so far. Ridiculous" via his twitter account. What do people think about this not naming a team just shortly before the match? Has Derrick got a point?

Clareman

Claregaafan18 wrote: »

There is a lot of criticism towards the Clare U17 football management team for not naming a team for tomorrow's Munster Championship match against Limerick until shortly before throw-in. They say that there are some injuries in the camp which they hope that will clear up by tomorrow evening. Derrick Lynch is fuming. The Clare FM head of sport has his brother - Damien Lynch involved in the panel. With a team being named around 5 pm tomorrow evening, he is saying that this will give "young lads no time to get their heads right for the biggest game of their lives so far. Ridiculous" via his twitter account. What do people think about this not naming a team just shortly before the match? Has Derrick got a point?

No he doesn't, it's not an All Ireland final it's the first round of the championship, not too long ago the team was picked by the manager throwing the jerseys to the players just before going out on the pitch. Sometimes too much cr@p goes into stuff, if a 16 year old needs time to "get their heads right" to play a match then there's something seriously wrong.

Claregaafan18

Clareman wrote: »

No he doesn't, it's not an All Ireland final it's the first round of the championship, not too long ago the team was picked by the manager throwing the jerseys to the players just before going out on the pitch. Sometimes too much cr@p goes into stuff, if a 16 year old needs time to "get their heads right" to play a match then there's something seriously wrong.

Personally you are right. Was that back in 2014 the time regarding players being thrown jerseys just before going on the pitch, where the Clare minor footballers conceded 6 goals v Waterford that same year? About Derrick I think is a bit of a populist of a man. In other words he thinks by saying stuff that might be a populist view then people would agree with him and make him look like he knows his stuff.

The game itself will be close. That Limerick team played very well in 2017 Under-16 Munster Football tournament where they reached the final. Hope that home advantage might swing it to our favour but as I said it will be very close.

Clareman

Claregaafan18 wrote: »

Personally you are right. Was that back in 2014 the time regarding players being thrown jerseys just before going on the pitch, where the Clare minor footballers conceded 6 goals v Waterford that same year? About Derrick I think is a bit of a populist of a man. In other words he thinks by saying stuff that might be a populist view then people would agree with him and make him look like he knows his stuff.

The game itself will be close. That Limerick team played very well in 2017 Under-16 Munster Football tournament where they reached the final. Hope that home advantage might swing it to our favour but as I said it will be very close.

I think Derek sees himself as an investigative journalist who is out to sort out Clare football, I think he's from Kilmurray and is linked to some of the players who were threatening to boycott the county panel last year.

Townie212

Clareman wrote: »

I think Derek sees himself as an investigative journalist who is out to sort out Clare football, I think he's from Kilmurray and is linked to some of the players who were threatening to boycott the county panel last year.

no players were threatening to boycott panel, that was all one man's idea who has now moved onto new pastures since KIB.

Henno30

Claregaafan18 wrote: »

There is a lot of criticism towards the Clare U17 football management team for not naming a team for tomorrow's Munster Championship match against Limerick until shortly before throw-in. They say that there are some injuries in the camp which they hope that will clear up by tomorrow evening. Derrick Lynch is fuming. The Clare FM head of sport has his brother - Damien Lynch involved in the panel. With a team being named around 5 pm tomorrow evening, he is saying that this will give "young lads no time to get their heads right for the biggest game of their lives so far. Ridiculous" via his twitter account. What do people think about this not naming a team just shortly before the match? Has Derrick got a point?

No. The self-importance of journalists on this issue is staggering to be honest.

Claregaafan18

Clare 3-13 Limerick 2-9 - Munster U17 Football Championship 1/4 final

So a comfortable win for the Banner men. They were leading by 11 at half-time so a slight concern that they allowed the Shannonsiders back into in the end. I didn't make it to the game but according to twitter Shane Meehan and Mark McInerney were outstanding. Clare now qualify for the semi-final and with Cork and Kerry in the other side of the draw, there can be renewed optimism that Clare can qualify for back to back provincial minor football finals in a row. I look forward to the reaction of other posters who were at the game. Congrats to both players and management though. Job done.

finbarrk

It was a great performance. Shane Meehan was very exciting. McInerney and Rouine were also excellent.

Claregaafan18

Just looking at some of the results in the respective Clare football and hurling leagues this weekend.

In Hurling, Inagh-Kilnamona were most impressive when running out comprehensive 23 point winners over Broadford in the Clare Cup 1B. To my mind the combo are serious contenders for the Canon Hamilton and surely some day with all their underage success in the last few years they can claim that elusive Clare senior hurling championship title. With Fergal Hegarty in charge of the side, there certainly is no better man for the job me thinks to manage this group of young players.

Clonlara and Cratloe drew 3-11 to 0-20 in the Clare Cup 1A. Both sides with a bit to prove ahead of the championship. The defending Canon Hamilton champions Sixmilebridge will likely be the favorites for back to back titles. They play Kilmaley (2017 Clare Intermediate Champions) this evening in 1A. While Feakle play the current Clare Cup holders Newmarket also this evening.

I was very sad to see Wolfe Tones of Shannon just about fielding 15 players (no subs) in a recent Clare Cup 1B game and clearly things are not good in relation to hurling and gaa in general in Shannon. Clare GAA needs Wolfe Tones back being competitive again. They were Munster Intermediate hurling champions back in 2015 so lets hope for a quick turnaround in fortunes for the Shannon side.

While 2016 Canon Hamilton champions Ballyea who at the start of the year were my favorites to win Canon Hamilton will badly miss Fergie O'Loughlin, who left his position as manager/coach after being angry over Ballyea's county players lack of involvement in a Clare Cup game, the same weekend that Clare played Limerick in the NHL Quarter-Final.

In football in the Cusack Cup, Kilmurry Ibrickane, Cooraclare and Clondegad are 1,2 and 3 in that division. While in the Garry Cup (Division 2) Ennistymon and Eire Og Ennis have a 100% record with 4 wins from 4.

So overall that is the state of play in relation to the Clare GAA club scene at the moment. The hope is all Clare and Cusack Cup leagues will conclude by August, the likely start of both Clare senior hurling and football championship also.

Claregaafan18

Claregaafan18 wrote: »

Just looking at some of the results in the respective Clare football and hurling leagues this weekend.

In Hurling, Inagh-Kilnamona were most impressive when running out comprehensive 23 point winners over Broadford in the Clare Cup 1B. To my mind the combo are serious contenders for the Canon Hamilton and surely some day with all their underage success in the last few years they can claim that elusive Clare senior hurling championship title. With Fergal Hegarty in charge of the side, there certainly is no better man for the job me thinks to manage this group of young players.

Clonlara and Cratloe drew 3-11 to 0-20 in the Clare Cup 1A. Both sides with a bit to prove ahead of the championship. The defending Canon Hamilton champions Sixmilebridge will likely be the favorites for back to back titles. They play Kilmaley (2017 Clare Intermediate Champions) this evening in 1A. While Feakle play the current Clare Cup holders Newmarket also this evening.

I was very sad to see Wolfe Tones of Shannon just about fielding 15 players (no subs) in a recent Clare Cup 1B game and clearly things are not good in relation to hurling and gaa in general in Shannon. Clare GAA needs Wolfe Tones back being competitive again. They were Munster Intermediate hurling champions back in 2015 so lets hope for a quick turnaround in fortunes for the Shannon side.

While 2016 Canon Hamilton champions Ballyea who at the start of the year were my favorites to win Canon Hamilton will badly miss Fergie O'Loughlin, who left his position as manager/coach after being angry over Ballyea's county players lack of involvement in a Clare Cup game, the same weekend that Clare played Limerick in the NHL Quarter-Final.

In football in the Cusack Cup, Kilmurry Ibrickane, Cooraclare and Clondegad are 1,2 and 3 in that division. While in the Garry Cup (Division 2) Ennistymon and Eire Og Ennis have a 100% record with 4 wins from 4.

So overall that is the state of play in relation to the Clare GAA club scene at the moment. The hope is all Clare and Cusack Cup leagues will conclude by August, the likely start of both Clare senior hurling and football championship also.

Kilmaley 4-16 The bridge 0-7. Result in Clare Cup 1A

Clareman

Claregaafan18 wrote: »

Kilmaley 4-16 The bridge 0-7. Result in Clare Cup 1A

A blind man could manage Kilmaley to a county championship this year, the local tragedy combined with the skill coming through in my opinion means there's no team to beat them this year.

windy shepard henderson

Clareman wrote: »

I think Derek sees himself as an investigative journalist who is out to sort out Clare football, I think he's from Kilmurray and is linked to some of the players who were threatening to boycott the county panel last year.

Not sure about him either , has potential to be a fairly good commentator for clare fm but for a journalist he wares his heart on his sleeve too much ,

I think as mentioned above , the issue with KIB and the clare management was more between there then manager "horse" Moloney and colm Collins or the country board . Maloney soon left his native club to take over cooraclare, I imagine he is the next in line to take over whenever Collins leaves the footballers , so it was much to do about nothing really

Twiceasnice97

Clareman wrote: »

No he doesn't, it's not an All Ireland final it's the first round of the championship, not too long ago the team was picked by the manager throwing the jerseys to the players just before going out on the pitch. Sometimes too much cr@p goes into stuff, if a 16 year old needs time to "get their heads right" to play a match then there's something seriously wrong.

its a bit ridiculous not to name a team at the same time

Figerty

Twiceasnice97 wrote: »

its a bit ridiculous not to name a team at the same time

Maybe the team knew the team! But they didn't release it to the public. Remember Loughnanes justification for dropping Gilligan into the 97 final at the expense of Fergal Hegarty.
Hegarty was very badly treated, but there was no well intentioned callers, friends media congratulating Gilligan making the team, no pressure on him. It could have been handled better.

Contrast that with Shane O'Donnell in 2013. Apparently Darach Honan knew the situation and told no one he was dropped. This took the pressure of O'Donnell, but at least Honan was treated fairly.

As minor has dropped in age, it's only adding pressure on the younger heads in the build up.

Claregaafan18

Result Munster U17 Football Championship Play-off

Tipperary 2-12 Limerick 1-11 - After extra-time

So with this win for the Tipp men, Clare avoid both Cork and Kerry in the Munster semi-final. Massive incentive for us to reach a second consecutive provincial minor football final. The Premier County now face Waterford, with a place in the semi-final against Clare up for grabs.

Claregaafan18

Full Time: Munster U17 Football Championship Play-off

Tipperary 2-11 Waterford 2-6

Despite a much improved showing by the Deise men after their heavy defeat at the hands of Cork, its Tipperary who have claimed the spoils in this Munster U17 Football play-off, after a 5 point win over Waterford in Lemybrien this evening. So it will be Tipp v Clare and Kerry v Cork in the semi-finals. The matches are to be played on Tuesday May 8th with Tipp and Kerry having home advantage for both semi-finals respectively.

Claregaafan18

Draws for the Clare senior and intermediate hurling and football championships have been announced. In the link below its the 1st round senior hurling draw with some exceptional ties to wet the appetite.

https://twitter.com/ClareFM/status/989214981865594880

Claregaafan18

Here is the 1st round senior football draw with 5 teams to be relegated this year.

https://twitter.com/ClareFM/status/989217079323693056

Claregaafan18

I have a number of queries regarding Clare football and hurling

Firstly is Joe McGann part of the Clare U20 Football panel for 2018? He scored 3 goals today for St Breckans in their 9 point win over Kilmurry Ibrickane in the Cusack Cup today. Surely Colm Collins and Seamus Clancy would have taken note. He is underage for the U20 grade in 2018 so if anyone with any information on whether he is on the U20 panel would be most welcome.

I see on twitter that Cormac Murray has scored 1-3 as St Josephs Miltown lead Clondegad 1-17 to 1-5 in the Cusack Cup midway in the second half. Again anyone with any reason why Murray is not on the Clare senior football panel would be appreciated. He has been in scintillating form for his club in the last 12 months and I think that he will be a vital asset for Colm Collins if he was part of the senior football panel.

Finally how are preparations getting on for the Clare U17 and U21 hurlers ahead of their opening Munster Championship matches against defending Munster champions Cork and Limerick respectively. Sean Doyle is once again manager of the minors. While John Carmody is in his second year in charge of the U21 hurlers.

I hope that anyone can shed any light on any of the above queries. Thanks.

windy shepard henderson

Claregaafan18 wrote: »

I have a number of queries regarding Clare football and hurling

Firstly is Joe McGann part of the Clare U20 Football panel for 2018? He scored 3 goals today for St Breckans in their 9 point win over Kilmurry Ibrickane in the Cusack Cup today. Surely Colm Collins and Seamus Clancy would have taken note. He is underage for the U20 grade in 2018 so if anyone with any information on whether he is on the U20 panel would be most welcome.

I see on twitter that Cormac Murray has scored 1-3 as St Josephs Miltown lead Clondegad 1-17 to 1-5 in the Cusack Cup midway in the second half. Again anyone with any reason why Murray is not on the Clare senior football panel would be appreciated. He has been in scintillating form for his club in the last 12 months and I think that he will be a vital asset for Colm Collins if he was part of the senior football panel.

Finally how are preparations getting on for the Clare U17 and U21 hurlers ahead of their opening Munster Championship matches against defending Munster champions Cork and Limerick respectively. Sean Doyle is once again manager of the minors. While John Carmody is in his second year in charge of the U21 hurlers.

I hope that anyone can shed any light on any of the above queries. Thanks.

start with hurling , next monday clare 21s play limerick , some excellent individual players on the panel but big ask to win this one as limerick as still quiet strong at this level , not as strong as other years but the likes of the caseys from Na piersaigs is still on the panel

main players for clare would be jason and aidan mccarthy inagk , colin guilfoyle newmarket conor ryans brother David from cratloe , all have been doing well of late in clare cup and the 21s championship , billy connors from cratloe has done well during the cup also but this level will be a test for him id say , small and fast typical cratloe froward

few good players from kilmaley on the panel also in cathal darcy , joe carmody and paudi mcnamara but this level could be a big ask as some of them players have limited experience at this level

in challenge games they beat kilkenny lost to the kerry senior side in tralee were due to play dublin in the park last week but that turned out to be an A v B game , mixed bag really but probably a much better team then last year big ask next week though

in the u17s things are starting to look bright again for clare development teams this group were very competitive last year at forresteral level , cork are the bench mark though , they have done huge work underage recently and they will be the team to beat , its the minors first game in the competition against them in cork the same day as the senior game so will be tough , but i expect them to have a good campaign if they can build on what they have done with 15 , and 16s

they have had some excellent displays against , kilkenny loss wexford won laois won and galway loss in preparation , the players to look out for would be keelan guyler from inaghK who scored 1-2 in the clare 21s final a few weeks ago , shane meehan is likely to start he is the only duel player operating at this level i believe , geroid o grady, adam mungovon and fionn slattery all are promising young players coming through

windy shepard henderson

Claregaafan18 wrote: »

I have a number of queries regarding Clare football and hurling

Firstly is Joe McGann part of the Clare U20 Football panel for 2018? He scored 3 goals today for St Breckans in their 9 point win over Kilmurry Ibrickane in the Cusack Cup today. Surely Colm Collins and Seamus Clancy would have taken note. He is underage for the U20 grade in 2018 so if anyone with any information on whether he is on the U20 panel would be most welcome.

I see on twitter that Cormac Murray has scored 1-3 as St Josephs Miltown lead Clondegad 1-17 to 1-5 in the Cusack Cup midway in the second half. Again anyone with any reason why Murray is not on the Clare senior football panel would be appreciated. He has been in scintillating form for his club in the last 12 months and I think that he will be a vital asset for Colm Collins if he was part of the senior football panel.

mcgann is a serious talent he is only around the 19/20 mark , but likes his nights out i am informed :pac: he probably will commit to the seniors in the next few years but at his age hard to blame him for not wanting to commit just yet scored 8-07 in 6 league games this month definitely one for the future

murry has had a quiet campaign for miltown bar that game at the weekend again he will offer plenty to the senior panel in time , but the best young players not on the panel this year have been jack morrissey cooraclare , dermot coughlan KIB and the excellent prospect gavin cooney who has had an excellent league campaign with Eire og albeit in division 2, one of the better players from last years clare minor side

not sure why jack morrissey is not on the panel at the moment , cooney and coughlan are probably a year too young for senior intercounty

windy shepard henderson

Bad night at the office last night , I still rate a number of players out of this panel for the future , but either the preperation or the setup its self something was wrong from the outset

Probably lucky not to be further behind at half time , but we were competitive up to the sending off ,

Most likely we would have been beaten anyway but not by the margin of 14 points , two things stood out though last night

1 having to make so many changes before and at half time to me is a bad indictment on the preparation by the management

Michael o'shea is having a fine league with smith O'Briens , as is paudi o loughlin for clonlara ,surely these two players should have started on form alone


2 in the defense of management , players like colin guilfoyle and Billy Connors had poor games and are key players for the future , I would have expected much better from them two ,

Limerick have a fine team coming through and will take beating for the rest of the year , a result like last night though should act as a warning sign that we need to improve on the underage setups especially at this level

danganabu

The most alarming thing looking in from the outside was the massive differnce in physicality, it really was a case of men against boys. this seems to be an issue for Clare across all age groups including senior.