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Figerty

Claregaafan18 wrote: »

Kilmaley 0-25 Kanturk 1-23 AET

Brave from the Clare intermediate hurling champions but ultimately a last gasp missed free costed the West Clare men a replay. They were 6 points down 1-13 to 0-10 midway through the second half at one stage. However they never gave up and were unlucky not to win it in normal time with Paul Walsh from the Cork men scoring a massive equalizer to force the game in ET. Wasn't at the match and looking forward to hearing the thoughts of posters about the game. Best of luck though to Kanturk who now play in a All-Ireland semi-final in the new year. As for Kilmaley they can look forward to participating in the Clare senior hurling championship in 2018.

Cracking match for November. Great scores for both sides. Kanturk could have scored more goals where as Kilmaley never really threatened the goal. However, that didn't matter as they scored from distance. Only negative was the Kanturk mentor that ran on to the field to stop the last free from being taken. That free was taken, went wide and the game was lost.

Clareman

I was in at the match yesterday and although Kanturk were deserved winners they couldn't have had too much of a complaint if they lost. Kanturk missed a sitter of a goal in the first half when they were on top, open goal no-one to beat and it was put wide, if that had gone in I think they would have ran away with it but when they did score the goal in the second half Kilmaley started to dominate and even took the lead.

Kilmaley made some very strange substitutions, they had a panel of 30 listed but they seemed to only want to bring on fellas that were listed in the program as starting or bringing fellas back on. Number 12 was having a poor game and was taken off with about 15 minutes to go only to be brought back on at the start of extra time then he went on the frees as well even though number 30 had slotted a 65 at the end of normal time. Number 11 was taken off and put back on as well, then number 5 and 15 were brought back on.

I thought the ref had a poor game, he left fouls go on both sides and never took control of the game, Kilmaley had 2 points deemed wide by a linesman, I was in line for the first 1 (that was awarded) and it was a good point but the linesman overruled it. At the very end Kilmaley got a free on the 65, first off a Kanturk player stood on the ball and in front of the player taking it, then a mentor stood right behind him on the pitch shouting at him, if there was ever a clear cut bring the ball forward situation that was it, the whole thing took about a minute as well. In the end the free went wide and that was it.

finbarrk

Good win in Boston by the hurlers. The games were ok, Clares goalkeeping and Peter Duggans scores the difference. There was a good night on Saturday night in McGanns in downtown Boston where there was a Clare fans get together. Ger O'Connor and Donal Maloney were joined by Donal O'Grady for a Q&A session. Although the players weren't allowed to attend by management.

Clareman

It was an interesting game alright, bit of fun. I liked the way all the players had the same helmets on

Figerty

Clareman wrote: »

I was in at the match yesterday and although Kanturk were deserved winners they couldn't have had too much of a complaint if they lost. Kanturk missed a sitter of a goal in the first half when they were on top, open goal no-one to beat and it was put wide, if that had gone in I think they would have ran away with it but when they did score the goal in the second half Kilmaley started to dominate and even took the lead.

Kilmaley made some very strange substitutions, they had a panel of 30 listed but they seemed to only want to bring on fellas that were listed in the program as starting or bringing fellas back on. Number 12 was having a poor game and was taken off with about 15 minutes to go only to be brought back on at the start of extra time then he went on the frees as well even though number 30 had slotted a 65 at the end of normal time. Number 11 was taken off and put back on as well, then number 5 and 15 were brought back on.

I thought the ref had a poor game, he left fouls go on both sides and never took control of the game, Kilmaley had 2 points deemed wide by a linesman, I was in line for the first 1 (that was awarded) and it was a good point but the linesman overruled it. At the very end Kilmaley got a free on the 65, first off a Kanturk player stood on the ball and in front of the player taking it, then a mentor stood right behind him on the pitch shouting at him, if there was ever a clear cut bring the ball forward situation that was it, the whole thing took about a minute as well. In the end the free went wide and that was it.

The first point that was disallowed was definitely wide. I had a perfect view of it. It never came in side the post from my view. There should have been no doubt about it.
I don't know about the second one. The umpires shouldn't have missed the first one. The second one, the umpire signaled (same umpire) a point only to be overruled by the other umpire.

The antics at the free at the end were the only negative. Kanturk are a fine hurling team, physical and skillful. the point they got to draw it, and the goal scored were top class. Mikey O'Malleys dodge and dummy to score a point was equally as good. There was quality on show from both teams.

finbarrk

U21 Semi Final, Cooraclare 1.12 KIB 1.09.
Great win for Cooraclare last night in Kilmihill against the defending champions. They were 5 points down half way through the second half. Sean O'Donoghue played exceptionally well in midfield and Killian Roche's free taking was vital also. Big crowd attended.

Claregaafan18

Great win for St Joseph's Tulla to win the U16.5 B Munster PP Schools Hurling title after a 3-9 to 1-12 victory over Blackwater Community School. The East Clare school were 7 points down at one stage so fair dues to them. Congrats to one and all!!! Cormac Murphy with the 2 goals and Andrew Conheady with the other goal

Claregaafan18

Result Corn ui Mhuiri Munster PP Schools Football U18.5 A Championship

St Flannans 1-12 IS Killorglin 0-8

A good win for the Ennis school books a spot in the quarter-finals of the competition to be played in the new year.

danganabu

Claregaafan18 wrote: »

Result Corn ui Mhuiri Munster PP Schools Football U18.5 A Championship

St Flannans 1-12 IS Killorglin 0-8

A good win for the Ennis school books a spot in the quarter-finals of the competition to be played in the new year.

Flannan's really seem to have swithched there focus from hurling to football, is this as a direct effect of no boarders or a concious decision or a little bit of both? Or is it just a cyclical thing?

Claregaafan18

danganabu wrote: »

Flannan's really seem to have swithched there focus from hurling to football, is this as a direct effect of no boarders or a concious decision or a little bit of both? Or is it just a cyclical thing?

Flannans won the Munster U15 A Football title last week and in 2014 also so their senior team should be really strong this season. John Connole, Eoin Curtin and Gary Brennan are doing great work in promoting the footballing gospel there.

However in hurling it has been a struggle. Yes you could argue that the dis-continuation of the boarders had an impact on the fortunes of the respective hurling teams in recent years. However the impression that I got was there was not the same effort put into hurling as it should be. Things are changing though. In the last 2 years or so a huge effort has gone in trying to restore St Flannans to its former glory. The U15 A team narrowly lost to the highly rated Thurles CBS in the final of the competition earlier in the year. The U16.5 A team were beaten by just one point against Midleton CBS in the semi-final.

Jamesie O'Connor and the recently retired Clare hurler and 2 time All-Star Brendan Bugler are putting great structures in place to ensure that Flannan's can compete for Harty Cup's down the line and in future have players involved in senior and underage Clare teams for many years to come.

So all and all the future looks very promising for Flannans. Here's hoping long may that continue in both hurling and football as they always had a brilliant reputation of being a leading sporting school, whether be in athletics, swimming etc, that was and still is the envy of schools throughout Clare and Munster.

LuckyGent88

finbarrk wrote: »

U21 Semi Final, Cooraclare 1.12 KIB 1.09.
Great win for Cooraclare last night in Kilmihill against the defending champions. They were 5 points down half way through the second half. Sean O'Donoghue played exceptionally well in midfield and Killian Roche's free taking was vital also. Big crowd attended.

Any idea what happened with the appeal from barefield in regards them being thrown out for not turning up??

Pretty sure the game will have to be played on the grounds of player welfare.

windy shepard henderson

LuckyGent88 wrote: »

Any idea what happened with the appeal from barefield in regards them being thrown out for not turning up??

Pretty sure the game will have to be played on the grounds of player welfare.

it was st breckans that were eliminated because they had two lads from ballyvaughan playing for them , they have always been involved with breckans at underage but the transfer paperwork was late going through before there first round win over cooraclare

cooraclare did not object and were happy to see breckans progress to the next round but some other club protested and later got them thrown out of the competition
cooraclare got back into the competition as a result and have taken full advantage of the mishap , they never at any stage protested st breckans mistake as all there side are u21 again next year , it was another parish in the other side of the draw that got breckans thrown out ,.... before duly being beaten later in the competition themselves ....justice as they say :pac:

Stationmaster

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

it was st breckans that were eliminated because they had two lads from ballyvaughan playing for them , they have always been involved with breckans at underage but the transfer paperwork was late going through before there first round win over cooraclare

cooraclare did not object and were happy to see breckans progress to the next round but some other club protested and later got them thrown out of the competition
cooraclare got back into the competition as a result and have taken full advantage of the mishap , they never at any stage protested st breckans mistake as all there side are u21 again next year , it was another parish in the other side of the draw that got breckans thrown out ,.... before duly being beaten later in the competition themselves ....justice as they say :pac:

Separate issues. Josephs were also thrown out after they didn't show to play an U21 game at 12pm on the same day that their minors were down to play at 2pm (I think those were the times). Ridiculous scheduling to have a clash like that and they are 100% correct to appeal the decision.

Limestone Cowboy

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

it was st breckans that were eliminated because they had two lads from ballyvaughan playing for them , they have always been involved with breckans at underage but the transfer paperwork was late going through before there first round win over cooraclare

cooraclare did not object and were happy to see breckans progress to the next round but some other club protested and later got them thrown out of the competition
cooraclare got back into the competition as a result and have taken full advantage of the mishap , they never at any stage protested st breckans mistake as all there side are u21 again next year , it was another parish in the other side of the draw that got breckans thrown out ,.... before duly being beaten later in the competition themselves ....justice as they say :pac:

Id have fancied breckans to win it out, had a very strong team this year. Awful mess up from breckans to not put through the isolated player forms and to play the two lads when they knew what would happen. Bit unfair on the 2 lads aswell that they couldn't play any u21 football this year because of a technacality.

Stationmaster

To be honest, Breckans shouldn't have even raised the matter at board level and just played the 2 boys as I'd imagine noone would have noticed anything incorrect seeing as the 2 lads have always played with them.

Gael85

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

it was st breckans that were eliminated because they had two lads from ballyvaughan playing for them , they have always been involved with breckans at underage but the transfer paperwork was late going through before there first round win over cooraclare

cooraclare did not object and were happy to see breckans progress to the next round but some other club protested and later got them thrown out of the competition
cooraclare got back into the competition as a result and have taken full advantage of the mishap , they never at any stage protested st breckans mistake as all there side are u21 again next year , it was another parish in the other side of the draw that got breckans thrown out ,.... before duly being beaten later in the competition themselves ....justice as they say :pac:

What it Lisscasey that objected?

Claregaafan18

Looks like Aron Shanagher is out for the foreseeable future at least, as the Wolfe Tones man has suffered cruciate ligament damage. He sustained the injury before the Clare hurlers departed to Boston for the Fenway Classic last weekend. It could see him miss the entire 2018 season. Another huge blow for Gerry and Donal and the Clare senior hurling team.

Tell me how

Claregaafan18 wrote: »

Looks like Aron Shanagher is out for the foreseeable future at least, as the Wolfe Tones man has suffered cruciate ligament damage. He sustained the injury before the Clare hurlers departed to Boston for the Fenway Classic last weekend. It could see him miss the entire 2018 season. Another huge blow for Gerry and Donal and the Clare senior hurling team.

Sure is. 2018 looking like it will be either a difficult season or will produce some emerging stars.

finbarrk

Stationmaster wrote: »

Separate issues. Josephs were also thrown out after they didn't show to play an U21 game at 12pm on the same day that their minors were down to play at 2pm (I think those were the times). Ridiculous scheduling to have a clash like that and they are 100% correct to appeal the decision.

It's at the Munster Council stage seemingly.

windy shepard henderson

Gael85 wrote: »

What it Lisscasey that objected?

i believe so , an error as simple as that surly can be over looked in my opinion especially at under age level , cant for the life of me understand why they did when everyone else were given breckans the benefit of the doubt

Matt.ie

windy shepard henderson wrote:

i believe so , an error as simple as that surly can be over looked in my opinion especially at under age level , cant for the life of me understand why they did when everyone else were given breckans the benefit of the doubt

You have said in the previous post that cooraclare didn't object.

Now you believe that lissycasey did. So to conclude, you're not sure what club objected. Would that be right?


I met a well known lissycasey woman who was at the county board meeting.
Meet her a couple of nights after it,maybe the next night.

I was commenting on the situation with her and jokingly said that it was her that objected. She replied that she never spoke and it wasn't her club that objected but the fella sitting beside her did. She named him and he was from cooraclare.

BnB

Clareman wrote: »

It was an interesting game alright, bit of fun. I liked the way all the players had the same helmets on

I liked the game too. Didn't think I would but found myself really getting into it. But I absolutely HATED the way lads all had the same Helmets on. T'was nearly impossible to tell the players apart. It was like 11 identical players playing the game.

Figerty

BnB wrote: »

I liked the game too. Didn't think I would but found myself really getting into it. But I absolutely HATED the way lads all had the same Helmets on. T'was nearly impossible to tell the players apart. It was like 11 identical players playing the game.

Helmets could have been their club colours.. I suppose the corporate sponsors wanted it all neat and tidy

Claregaafan18

Kilmurry Ibrickane 0-14 Miltown St Josephs 0-12 in the Cusack Cup Final

Well done to the Quilty men. 7 in a row. However the war of words over the future of the Cusack Cup has escalated with KIB manager Aidan Moloney saying stuff like "we will not allow our inter-county panelists access to the county team" in reference to games being called off, lack of access to their club players and the long delay to the conclusion of the competition. He also criticized other clubs for "burying their heads under the sand" for not standing up on behalf of their club players over availability of players to the county squad. That is in contrast to the hurling situation, Moloney said.

There will be a very significant structures meeting on next Thursday I believe. This is where the clubs will have their say over the chaotic fixture debacle which has gone on for far too long now. It is also the chance for clubs to stand up to county board incompetence. We probably have some of the worst football administrators in the country. Clubs it is over to you or else the Cusack Cup will turn out like the irrelevant O'Gorman Cup. If Clubs don't stand up then Clare football faces a long abyss. My message is clear. ALL football clubs must attend this meeting. No excuses.

Claregaafan18

Fair play to Aidan "Horse" Moloney for pulling no punches with his take on the state of Clare club football. Club football is dying in many parts of the county. However it seems the hierarchy of the Clare County Board are only interested in the fortunes of hurling. They will do nothing to promote football unless the clubs stand up to them. Thursday night is really last chance saloon for the future not just for club football but what is also at stake here is Clare football in general. This is an issue that really gets my blood boiling.

The counter-argument is that players could get injured if county panel members are allowed to play for their clubs and that if the "Horse" gets his wish that Clare inter-county panelists get full access to their clubs, it will deny Colm Collins and his management team vital time on the training ground in Caherlohan ahead of the championship. I think the situation regarding the Clare minor football team and the management's decision to basically put an ultimatum to players about not playing for their clubs in the 1st round of the club championship in June, 2 weeks before the Munster Minor Football final really touched a nerve among clubs. However I hope a compromise can be solved on availability of club players.

But that is one of many issues facing Clare football at the moment. It is up to clubs what they want. If they accept the status quo then Clare football is well and truly goosed. The only people that would be happy with this status quo would be the county board as they can continue their pro-hurling agenda and have no more hassle with the football clubs. This is a huge moment for the future of the big ball in the county. Clare football in 2017 is under-funded, under-resourced with a county board continues to ignore the plight of the club player and don't care about development and promotion of football in the county.

But I conclude this by left feeling that clubs have had loads of opportunities to put forward their plight about whats wrong with Clare football and yet 2 things continue to occur. 1. County board don't listen and 2. clubs not playing hard-ball. Kilmurry Ibrickane have made their stand. C'mon clubs join the Quilty men and start the crusade against the county board to ensure that football clubs are being listened to for once and for all. Or else you can well say the obituary for Clare football has just begun.

Running Balance

Fair play to moloney for calling out the county board cronies.

Football has always been an after thought - I thought it would have improved with a hurling club man over the team but apparently not.

windy shepard henderson

Matt.ie wrote: »

You have said in the previous post that cooraclare didn't object.

Now you believe that lissycasey did. So to conclude, you're not sure what club objected. Would that be right?


I met a well known lissycasey woman who was at the county board meeting.
Meet her a couple of nights after it,maybe the next night.

I was commenting on the situation with her and jokingly said that it was her that objected. She replied that she never spoke and it wasn't her club that objected but the fella sitting beside her did. She named him and he was from cooraclare.

sorry buddy but i am reporting off info from the cooraclare management that said they had no objection to breckans mistake and wished them the best of luck from there out , they also said it was lissycasey at the meeting that objected ,

like your case i cant name and shame people on this i know the delegate you are talking about the person that informed me about the meeting that night is part of the cooraclare 21s setup this year so i am working off his word not mine

windy shepard henderson

Claregaafan18 wrote: »

Fair play to Aidan "Horse" Moloney for pulling no punches with his take on the state of Clare club football. Club football is dying in many parts of the county. However it seems the hierarchy of the Clare County Board are only interested in the fortunes of hurling. They will do nothing to promote football unless the clubs stand up to them. Thursday night is really last chance saloon for the future not just for club football but what is also at stake here is Clare football in general. This is an issue that really gets my blood boiling.

The counter-argument is that players could get injured if county panel members are allowed to play for their clubs and that if the "Horse" gets his wish that Clare inter-county panelists get full access to their clubs, it will deny Colm Collins and his management team vital time on the training ground in Caherlohan ahead of the championship. I think the situation regarding the Clare minor football team and the management's decision to basically put an ultimatum to players about not playing for their clubs in the 1st round of the club championship in June, 2 weeks before the Munster Minor Football final really touched a nerve among clubs. However I hope a compromise can be solved on availability of club players.

But that is one of many issues facing Clare football at the moment. It is up to clubs what they want. If they accept the status quo then Clare football is well and truly goosed. The only people that would be happy with this status quo would be the county board as they can continue their pro-hurling agenda and have no more hassle with the football clubs. This is a huge moment for the future of the big ball in the county. Clare football in 2017 is under-funded, under-resourced with a county board continues to ignore the plight of the club player and don't care about development and promotion of football in the county.

But I conclude this by left feeling that clubs have had loads of opportunities to put forward their plight about whats wrong with Clare football and yet 2 things continue to occur. 1. County board don't listen and 2. clubs not playing hard-ball. Kilmurry Ibrickane have made their stand. C'mon clubs join the Quilty men and start the crusade against the county board to ensure that football clubs are being listened to for once and for all. Or else you can well say the obituary for Clare football has just begun.

to be fair its colm collins not the county board that are not releasing players for club games . the club football and hurling leagues are a compleat farce though with the football league starting in march and the final only today , the hurling started in march also and the final between newmarket and the bridge will be played next week ......the first week in December

i appreciate that the intercounty management dont want players getting injured but this has got out of hand , if there is one thing i want to see changed from the county board would be to run off the league hurling and football championships before the championship starts , and not this nonsense that is proposed of club championship games played in the month of april next year

Gael85

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

to be fair its colm collins not the county board that are not releasing players for club games . the club football and hurling leagues are a compleat farce though with the football league starting in march and the final only today , the hurling started in march also and the final between newmarket and the bridge will be played next week ......the first week in December

i appreciate that the intercounty management dont want players getting injured but this has got out of hand , if there is one thing i want to see changed from the county board would be to run off the league hurling and football championships before the championship starts , and not this nonsense that is proposed of club championship games played in the month of april next year

When is the Division 3 final?

Gael85

Claregaafan18 wrote: »

Kilmurry Ibrickane 0-14 Miltown St Josephs 0-12 in the Cusack Cup Final

Well done to the Quilty men. 7 in a row. However the war of words over the future of the Cusack Cup has escalated with KIB manager Aidan Moloney saying stuff like "we will not allow our inter-county panelists access to the county team" in reference to games being called off, lack of access to their club players and the long delay to the conclusion of the competition. He also criticized other clubs for "burying their heads under the sand" for not standing up on behalf of their club players over availability of players to the county squad. That is in contrast to the hurling situation, Moloney said.

There will be a very significant structures meeting on next Thursday I believe. This is where the clubs will have their say over the chaotic fixture debacle which has gone on for far too long now. It is also the chance for clubs to stand up to county board incompetence. We probably have some of the worst football administrators in the country. Clubs it is over to you or else the Cusack Cup will turn out like the irrelevant O'Gorman Cup. If Clubs don't stand up then Clare football faces a long abyss. My message is clear. ALL football clubs must attend this meeting. No excuses.

I played football in Clare for a few years .Football is a hindrance to county board and they simply don't give a damn. Footballers budget is a fraction of what hurlers get and it amazing Collins brought team from Division 4 to survive into Division 2.