E-Cigarettes - The original thread

pinkstars

Yea the Healthier Smoker one...
Thanks for the tips as I really had no idea of much.

Do you get into them more as you carry on and try different e-cigarettes and vapers?

tommy2bad

pinkstars wrote: »

Yea the Healthier Smoker one...
Thanks for the tips as I really had no idea of much.

Do you get into them more as you carry on and try different e-cigarettes and vapers?

Well shinyitis can set in but tbh it doesn't have to. I'm happy with an ego battery and a rebuildable dripping atomizer. Mix my own juice mostly and seldom spend more than 30 quid a month.
You can run a cleromiser for about 4 quid a week with juice costing no more than 6 euros. Or you could spend hundreds buying mods and atomizers, boutique juices and fancy battery chargers. Can cost as much as fags if you want or as little as coke and crisps.
Check out the Vape porn thread to see how mad...er attractive it can get.

EGriff

What kind of RDA are you using that fits well on an ego?

tommy2bad

EGriff wrote: »

What kind of RDA are you using that fits well on an ego?

I drift between the Pheonix

And the A7, pic here
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/679572770/For_ego_battery_New_color_stainless.html
Both work well, the A7 is darker and longer, I dont bother with the oid bit, don't like the flavor from it.
For times when dripping is difficult I go with a C4, handy and easy.

pinkstars

tommy2bad wrote: »

Well shinyitis can set in but tbh it doesn't have to. I'm happy with an ego battery and a rebuildable dripping atomizer. Mix my own juice mostly and seldom spend more than 30 quid a month.
You can run a cleromiser for about 4 quid a week with juice costing no more than 6 euros. Or you could spend hundreds buying mods and atomizers, boutique juices and fancy battery chargers. Can cost as much as fags if you want or as little as coke and crisps.
Check out the Vape porn thread to see how mad...er attractive it can get.

Eeeeeek I am becoming obsessed!! I still had a few fags today but about ten less using the ecig. Just want to ease myself into it...

EGriff

I'm debating trying cartos or a dripper atm but I've had zero problems with my 2 mini protanks so I'm hesitant. There isn't even a drop of liquid on top of the battery after a full tank unless i go messing around removing some of the wicks.

All the other clearos I tried leaked and flooded or gave dry hits. These things are effortless.. fill, vape and change the coil once a week, but I get the feeling I'm missing out on some of the flavour.

Dawn Burke

Electronic Cigs can be bought in many supermarkets. I have the Nicolite cig. I find it very good.E23.99.No messy liquid. The only problem is I can't find any where that sells the individual battery so, I have to buy the starter kit each time I need a new battery. I have cut down from 40-60 to 10-20 a day in just a few weeks. After a lifetime of heavy smoking I have emphysema. My Dr told me that every cigarette I didn't smoke would help me. I can now breathe without gasping for breath. Which ever cig you choose make sure you can buy the accessories.

tommy2bad

Dawn Burke wrote: »

Electronic Cigs can be bought in many supermarkets. I have the Nicolite cig. I find it very good.E23.99.No messy liquid. The only problem is I can't find any where that sells the individual battery so, I have to buy the starter kit each time I need a new battery. I have cut down from 40-60 to 10-20 a day in just a few weeks. After a lifetime of heavy smoking I have emphysema. My Dr told me that every cigarette I didn't smoke would help me. I can now breathe without gasping for breath. Which ever cig you choose make sure you can buy the accessories.

You can get more batterys from nicolites web site;
http://www.nicolitesonline.co.uk/shop/Electronic-Cigarette-Accessories

Dawn Burke

Hi tommy2bad.
Many thanks for taking the time to answer me but I should have said I can't buy from a website. I just hoped someone would know of a shop in Galway area where I could get the batteries.I am thinking of changing to another cig but I will make sure I can at least get the batteries.Thanks again tommy2bad

Mr. Chrome

In galway the only shops I know of are, the best shop in oranmore, one in woodquay (dont know the name of it) its on a little street off woodquay called the mews, and 2 stalls, one in the shopping centre and one in the eyre square centre.
Dont know if any of them stock what your looking for though.

Dawn Burke

Thanks a mill Mr Chrome really appreciate your help.I know the Eyre Square centre is not tne nicolite cig that I want,I didn't know about the others you refer too but,I will certainly give them a try.I just can't understand why the individual batteries are not along side starter kits and cartomisers.Thanks again

zark 7

Hi guys glad people are talking on this subject about E cig's been a smoker for over 25 years usually a pack a day. Been to U.S.A 10 years ago and saw people using this product and seem a good alternative to the harmful cig's.
Tried ordering the product but shipping costs to high didn’t make it viable so continued smoking the coffin nails that will get you in the end, and now just discovered that their here, been researching the vapour world forms, blogs etc
And the one that is highly rated is the new vapour4life zeus, not going to start typing vapour talk on vapour cigs plenty on info on forms about that, but the main reason for this post is if someone could point us in the direction of a good supplier for this vapour in Ireland or U.K, would be grateful.
Also rated highly is the Spanish gold tobacco liquid or juice as it’s called which you can get from sweet-vapes.com also any help on finding a good supplier would be appreciated.

Dawn Burke

Hi Zark7
In galway the only shops I know of are, the best shop in oranmore, one in woodquay (dont know the name of it) its on a little street off woodquay called the mews, and 2 stalls, one in the shopping centre and one in the eyre square centre.
Dont know if any of them stock what your looking for though.
This is a reply I got.....hope it help you. Supermarkets are stocking ecigs.

grindle

Vapor4Life products seem to be vaporware on this side of the Atlantic despite being "one the more popular e-cig brands in the UK" according to their blurb.

Can't find a store that stocks them and they don't seem too popular, very little mention on ECF outside their own forum. They have an old/unpopular connection type which would be a huge hindrance and a good reason for vendors not to supply their goods.
Maybe they just haven't bothered pushing into our market/s yet.
eGo Twist?

OcocO

Just got my Dad started on disposable "Matchless" e-cigs. I never thought he'd take to them, deeply suspicious of all things electronic as he is. Now I'm wondering about getting him a starter kit to add economy to the fresher air in the sitting room. He likes the 'authentic' cigarette experience so the choice seems to be either "Matchless" or "VIP".

EGriff

OcocO wrote: »

Just got my Dad started on disposable "Matchless" e-cigs. I never thought he'd take to them, deeply suspicious of all things electronic as he is. Now I'm wondering about getting him a starter kit to add economy to the fresher air in the sitting room. He likes the 'authentic' cigarette experience so the choice seems to be either "Matchless" or "VIP".

Check out the eRoll or the Innokin AIO, those are cigalikes but they come with charging boxes and they're handily refillable.

http://www.e-smokeireland.eu/product-p/aio.htm

http://www.thebestshop.eu/shop/joye-eroll/188-joye-eroll.html

OcocO

EGriff wrote: »

Check out the eRoll or the Innokin AIO, those are cigalikes but they come with charging boxes and they're handily refillable.

http://www.e-smokeireland.eu/product-p/aio.htm

http://www.thebestshop.eu/shop/joye-eroll/188-joye-eroll.html

Thank you. I had a look at the eRoll but couldn't find a cig-enough-like product in their range to satisfy my dad (I guess there will be a period of adjustment before he'd be prepared to let me hook him up with anything that looks distinctly different from what he is used to).

The Innokin AIO looks good however - I'll price it up alongside the Matchless and the VIP (I'm costing 10,000 puffs for each).

grindle

Costing for puffs won't work - the blurb the cigalikes use vastly overinflates the amount of cigs you get from a carto. Divide whatever number they say by 2 or 3 and you'll be closer to the truth.

OcocO

grindle wrote: »

Costing for puffs won't work - the blurb the cigalikes use vastly overinflates the amount of cigs you get from a carto. Divide whatever number they say by 2 or 3 and you'll be closer to the truth.

Ah, okay. In your experience, do the cartomisers/cartridges for the different makes of cigalike all contain roughly the same amount or are there brands that outlast others?

grindle

The cheapest by a large margin would be the AIO. Unfortunately the reason it'll work out cheaper is because it uses a common connection type (so far so good!) but the cartos that you use with it are empty and need to be filled by you or your father (2min job but some people are stubborn about minor fiddling to the point of choosing death over fiddle!).

The good side of that is he has about 1000x the amount of flavour options. Should he get a liquid, not like it and it's from a good brand it can always be sold or swapped.

gerryann

I bought an ovale emini a week ago and I am not having much success with it. According to the instructions the E cig should stayed charged for equivalent of 5 or 6 smokes, I'm finding it only lasts for hardly one, then the little led light at the end starts flashing and end of smoke. I'm having to keep it in the PCC constantly and limit smokes to approx a one minute session every couple hours. I've switched to the spare battery but same result. The PCC is fully charged. Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong here? Before I take the trip back to town.

OcocO

grindle wrote: »

The cheapest by a large margin would be the AIO. Unfortunately the reason it'll work out cheaper is because it uses a common connection type (so far so good!) but the cartos that you use with it are empty and need to be filled by you or your father (2min job but some people are stubborn about minor fiddling to the point of choosing death over fiddle!).

The good side of that is he has about 1000x the amount of flavour options. Should he get a liquid, not like it and it's from a good brand it can always be sold or swapped.

That's very interesting, thanks. I was just looking at their "empties" but couldn't see a description of what it meant. Does the "common connection type" that you mention mean that it will screw into a generic battery or some such, or does it mean that it can be filled from most brands of liquid?

It would be me doing the fiddly bit because dad's hands don't work so well anymore but that's fine - can one keep refilling the same empties?

EGriff

gerryann wrote: »

I bought an ovale emini a week ago and I am not having much success with it. According to the instructions the E cig should stayed charged for equivalent of 5 or 6 smokes, I'm finding it only lasts for hardly one, then the little led light at the end starts flashing and end of smoke. I'm having to keep it in the PCC constantly and limit smokes to approx a one minute session every couple hours. I've switched to the spare battery but same result. The PCC is fully charged. Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong here? Before I take the trip back to town.

The ovale emini just seems to be a rebadged eRoll. Like this: http://www.e-smokeireland.eu/product-p/eroll.htm

Does the battery flash twice or 10 times? If it's twice then it just means you've been inhaling for 10 seconds and the battery shuts down briefly for safety but should work again after a few seconds. It flashes 10 times when its dead. It should charge from the PCC in 30 mins so if it's not charging up then I'd say you need to bring it back, could be a dodgy connection between the PCC and the battery.

grindle

gerryann wrote: »

I bought an ovale emini a week ago and I am not having much success with it. According to the instructions the E cig should stayed charged for equivalent of 5 or 6 smokes, I'm finding it only lasts for hardly one, then the little led light at the end starts flashing and end of smoke. I'm having to keep it in the PCC constantly and limit smokes to approx a one minute session every couple hours. I've switched to the spare battery but same result. The PCC is fully charged. Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong here? Before I take the trip back to town.

Those batteries are supposed to be 90mAh each so I would've imagined you'd get maybe two cigs-worth out of it (if the batteries worked properly with an LR head that would amount to 2.6 minutes of constant sucking, about the same as m... Story for another day!).
Besides telling you to get a better ecig, the only way we can know if it's working properly is if you get a stop watch and time your puffs from full to empty.

OcocO wrote: »

That's very interesting, thanks. I was just looking at their "empties" but couldn't see a description of what it meant. Does the "common connection type" that you mention mean that it will screw into a generic battery or some such, or does it mean that it can be filled from most brands of liquid?

It would be me doing the fiddly bit because dad's hands don't work so well anymore but that's fine - can one keep refilling the same empties?

It's a 510 connection, which pretty much every ecig uses bar the predatory cigalike manufacturers.

Cigalike manufacturers (in general) use some age-old or proprietary connections to try to trap you into buying their products (like Apple and their insistence on proprietary connections).

510 cartos (I'd recommend the 2ohm Boge cartomisers) can be refilled a few times before needing to be chucked as long as he stops using the carto as soon as the taste starts going south. If he continues to vape on a drying-out carto he'll eventually get a burnt taste and that isn't going to be gotten rid of, the filler is burnt and that's that.

Any brand of liquid will do but cartos work best with a slightly higher PG ratio (more fluid/watery).
If he ever gets a 50/50 PG/VG juice and it's too thick, 1ml of vodka per 30ml will make a surprising difference to the wicking efficiency.

OcocO

grindle wrote: »

It's a 510 connection, which pretty much every ecig uses bar the predatory cigalike manufacturers.

Cigalike manufacturers (in general) use some age-old or proprietary connections to try to trap you into buying their products (like Apple and their insistence on proprietary connections).

510 cartos (I'd recommend the 2ohm Boge cartomisers) can be refilled a few times before needing to be chucked as long as he stops using the carto as soon as the taste starts going south. If he continues to vape on a drying-out carto he'll eventually get a burnt taste and that isn't going to be gotten rid of, the filler is burnt and that's that.

Any brand of liquid will do but cartos work best with a slightly higher PG ratio (more fluid/watery).
If he ever gets a 50/50 PG/VG juice and it's too thick, 1ml of vodka per 30ml will make a surprising difference to the wicking efficiency.

Thank you for the information. I'm new to the technology and am struggling a bit with the terminology (I need to do some googling obviously). I know just what you mean about Apple - why can't they use mini-USB like almost everyone else. I'm not sure that I'd be able to differentiate be predatory cigalike manufacturers from the rest at this point - could you give me a heads-up as to which to avoid or should I be looking for an ecig (the battery part right?) that is of the 510-type before buying?

Dad was wondering if flavours such as old-style Egyptian cigarettes existed. I said that I doubted it, but perhaps I was being too hasty given the apparently wide range of flavoured liquids out there.

The vodka tip sounds like a good one but I'll had to find out what PG/VG stands for.

grindle

OcocO wrote: »

Thank you for the information. I'm new to the technology and am struggling a bit with the terminology (I need to do some googling obviously). I know just what you mean about Apple - why can't they use mini-USB like almost everyone else. I'm not sure that I'd be able to differentiate be predatory cigalike manufacturers from the rest at this point - could you give me a heads-up as to which to avoid or should I be looking for an ecig (the battery part right?) that is of the 510-type before buying?

Any that make outlandish claims like 20cigs per carto (7-10 would be about right). Greensmoke, Smoke green, VIP, Nicolites, Intellicig.

The AIO is a good pick if it has to be cig-sized, the next jump up is cigar sized.

OcocO wrote: »

Dad was wondering if flavours such as old-style Egyptian cigarettes existed. I said that I doubted it, but perhaps I was being too hasty given the apparently wide range of flavoured liquids out there.

I have no idea what Egyptian cigs used to taste like...all I can find are people saying they tasted of camel dung.
If we knew what tobaccos they used we might find something close BUT... No liquid tastes exactly like a cigarette.
There are amazing tobaccos out there, on this side of the ocean mostly made by House of Liquid. Go for the El Toro range on houseofliquid.ie, they're made using real tobacco leaves. Amazing vapes.
Unfortunately they're also carto killers. He might get a day out a carto, maybe 2 if he was a light smoker.

OcocO wrote: »

The vodka tip sounds like a good one but I'll had to find out what PG/VG stands for.

PG= Propyl Glycol
VG=Vegetable Glycerine

Both are base ingredients in the juices/liquids.
PG gives less vapour but more taste from the flavouring and throathit from the nicotine.
VG has more vapour but slightly less taste and less throathit (it's the liquid you'd dip a baby's soother into to sooth their throat or gums, very thick/gloopy/viscous).

The thicker the liquid the harder it is to wick, so the ideal for a carto is anywhere from 80PG/20VG to 60PG/40VG. If he's a chain-puffer he might run into problems with higher VG but that can be countered with a minimal amount of vodka.

dePeatrick

Egyptian cigarettes are very like Turkish, Camel being the closest, Lucky strike also.

OcocO

grindle wrote: »

Any that make outlandish claims like 20cigs per carto (7-10 would be about right). Greensmoke, Smoke green, VIP, Nicolites, Intellicig.

The AIO is a good pick if it has to be cig-sized, the next jump up is cigar sized.


I have no idea what Egyptian cigs used to taste like...all I can find are people saying they tasted of camel dung.
If we knew what tobaccos they used we might find something close BUT... No liquid tastes exactly like a cigarette.
There are amazing tobaccos out there, on this side of the ocean mostly made by House of Liquid. Go for the El Toro range on houseofliquid.ie, they're made using real tobacco leaves. Amazing vapes.
Unfortunately they're also carto killers. He might get a day out a carto, maybe 2 if he was a light smoker.


PG= Propyl Glycol
VG=Vegetable Glycerine

Both are base ingredients in the juices/liquids.
PG gives less vapour but more taste from the flavouring and throathit from the nicotine.
VG has more vapour but slightly less taste and less throathit (it's the liquid you'd dip a baby's soother into to sooth their throat or gums, very thick/gloopy/viscous).

The thicker the liquid the harder it is to wick, so the ideal for a carto is anywhere from 80PG/20VG to 60PG/40VG. If he's a chain-puffer he might run into problems with higher VG but that can be countered with a minimal amount of vodka.

Wow, Thank you Grindle - the thoroughness of your reply is much appreciated. Indecisiveness was preventing me from taking the leap and buying but I feel well enough informed now to go ahead with the AIO 510 + empties and Dad & I will check out the flavours tomorrow as per your recommendations.

OcocO

dePeatrick wrote: »

Egyptian cigarettes are very like Turkish, Camel being the closest, Lucky strike also.

Thank you for the suggestions - I'll keep them in mind while we're browsing through the selections tomorrow.

grindle

OcocO wrote: »

Wow, Thank you Grindle - the thoroughness of your reply is much appreciated. Indecisiveness was preventing me from taking the leap and buying but I feel well enough informed now to go ahead with the AIO 510 + empties and Dad & I will check out the flavours tomorrow as per your recommendations.

Well, closest cig flavours for me would be 1st Choice from ezsmoke.ie (it's 80PG/20VG so great for cartos), Virginia Prime then Cigarillos Naturales from HoL (50/50, may need a drop of vodka?).

HoL will be getting a new flavour soon which is deliciously smoky and cig-like called Perique. Meant to taste like a pipe but it's still ciggy enough for me... As much as the other flavours will annihilate cartos, this one...I'd be surprised if it lasted more than a few hours.

I can send you a sample of some if you want to give it a go anyway?

And another thing - the HoL liquids come in stupid bottles that have no dropper on them, so grab a couple of empty bottles to decant into if you do buy from them.