15 year old boy who had consensual sex with 14 year old girl faces 5 years in prison

Ellis Dee · 23-02-2012 3:57pm

Yes, let's have a referendum on the subject. This being Ireland, the island of saints and scholars and major sexual hang-ups, it's bound to be a bundle of laughs, a festival of the absurd, a season of the surreal and a binge of the bizzare. Let's have referendums on a whole range of other things as well, not least abortion, religion in schools and, of course, our insane blasphemy legislation. It should keep the media busy for years.:):):)

davet82 · 23-02-2012 3:57pm

Bad Panda wrote: »

Where are all the feminist groups lobbying for equality? :rolleyes:

i've said it once and i'll say it again, your a bad bad panda

Bad Panda · 23-02-2012 3:58pm

davet82 wrote: »

i've said it once and i'll say it again, your a bad bad panda

I'm nice really!

Yakult · 23-02-2012 3:58pm

That's equality for you!

I think we need to start throwing Mars bars again.

Reiketsu · 23-02-2012 3:59pm

From a female perspective- this is unbelievable and ridiculous. It should be equal

. I heard this on the radio earlier. Discrimination.

AngryBollix · 23-02-2012 4:01pm

How many people here had sex before their 17th birthday?

Logical Fallacy · 23-02-2012 4:03pm

As per usual the Irish justice system seeks to criminalise being male.

DrumSteve · 23-02-2012 4:03pm

AngryBollix wrote: »

How many people here had sex before their 17th birthday?

There is a joke in there somewhere.

minidazzler · 23-02-2012 4:04pm

AngryBollix wrote: »

How many people here had sex before their 17th birthday?

Don't answer, he's a narc!! :P

AngryBollix · 23-02-2012 4:04pm

I'm glad I wasnt caught having underage sex Wha wha

AeoNGriM · 23-02-2012 4:07pm

Isn't going to stop me.....OOPS....probably shouldn't have said that out loud..........

Dravokivich · 23-02-2012 4:15pm

I'd rather know why they upheld, before I'd say any more on it. The link attached doesn't give an explination, nor does the article on breaking news: http://breakingnews.ie/ireland/supreme-court-upholds-law-allowing-prosecution-of-boys-and-not-girls-for-underage-sex-540989.html#ixzz1nDLdnROh

strobe · 23-02-2012 4:18pm

ECHR
ARTICLE 14

The enjoyment of the rights and freedoms set forth in this Convention shall be secured without discrimination on any ground such as sex, race, colour, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, association with a national minority, property, birth or other status.

CFHREU
Article 20
Equality before the law
Everyone is equal before the law.

Article 21
Non-discrimination
1. Any discrimination based on any ground such as sex, race, colour, ethnic or social origin, genetic
features, language, religion or belief, political or any other opinion, membership of a national minority,
property, birth, disability, age or sexual orientation shall be prohibited.

UNDHR
Article 7.

All are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law. All are entitled to equal protection against any discrimination in violation of this Declaration and against any incitement to such discrimination.

Article 2.

Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.

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Cunts.

mcspongeicus · 23-02-2012 4:20pm

What do people think of this? Again this guy's appeal has been dismissed.A 15 year old boy been charged for having consensual sex with a 14 year old girl. Stinks of sexism and descrimination.
Does anyone know anything about this law in an international sense, do other European countries have similar laws against males.. It seems bizarely archaic.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0223/court.html

Nodin · 23-02-2012 4:22pm

John Doe1 wrote: »

Is the supreme court made up of overly protective fathers?

Presumably they have to rule on the law as it stands, which would limit common sense on the matter. Presumably.

As to the OP - some of the greatest load of hare brained **** of all time, and I'll probably be long dead before its even looked at, let alone fixed.

Nodin · 23-02-2012 4:24pm

florio wrote: »

The lawyer says no sane person would be happy with 14 and 15 year old's having sex together- that's most of central Europe, South America, and China who are lunatics then. :rolleyes:

It also confuses 'not being happy with' and 'wanting to bring criminal proceedings'. Arseholes, the whole lot of them.

Biggins · 23-02-2012 4:28pm

mcspongeicus wrote: »

...It seems bizarely archaic.

Thats Irish law for you still.
Still stupid in parts and much outdated, unchanged by out of date, living in the past assholes!

mcspongeicus · 23-02-2012 4:29pm

The whole concept of this surely breaks international descrimination law??

Biggins · 23-02-2012 4:30pm

John Doe1 wrote: »

Is the supreme court made up of overly protective fathers?

No, Just out of date assholes!

Professey Chin · 23-02-2012 4:33pm

Dravokivich wrote: »

I'd rather know why they upheld, before I'd say any more on it. The link attached doesn't give an explination, nor does the article on breaking news: http://breakingnews.ie/ireland/supreme-court-upholds-law-allowing-prosecution-of-boys-and-not-girls-for-underage-sex-540989.html#ixzz1nDLdnROh

On the radio earlier it said the judges both agreed on it being because the girl can get pregnant.
Both female judges too (on the original case and appeal)

Biggins · 23-02-2012 4:34pm

mcspongeicus wrote: »

The whole concept of this surely breaks international descrimination law??

Having a law that applies only to one sex rather than another?
I'm guessing but in this particular situation, I would say so.

I hope the lad takes his case to the Europe courts and Ireland once again is shown how fcuking stupid and out of date, some of our laws still are - and whats worse still upheld by unwilling idiots who refuse to change whats much needed to be changed!

SeaFields · 23-02-2012 4:35pm

Any chance that this will be brought to the European court of human rights? Seems like our own system is unable / not willing to chance it.

mcspongeicus · 23-02-2012 4:37pm

yes the application of a law that actively discriminates against one sex.

He should go all the way with this. I wonder what the outcome of a 14 year old boy and a 15 year old girl would be. Would the boy still get prosecuted under our laws? i guess he'd have to.

AngryBollix · 23-02-2012 4:37pm

Teenagers are going to have sex, law or no law.

There are the obvious concerns regarding paedophilia and grooming and the like but a more sensible appoach may be called for

Biggins · 23-02-2012 4:38pm

The Great Chinholio wrote: »

On the radio earlier it said the judges both agreed on it being because the girl can get pregnant.
Both female judges too (on the original case and appeal)

Read that - and to me thats a miserable out of date excuse they are using to keep this unfair law existing!

Sex is just that, sex. The act of penetration between two people.
Irrespective of later a person finding out they are to be a mother - or a boy/man finding out he's caught an STD.

A sex act was involved in both cases (or other examples possible) and the law should be applied equally to both sexes!
...Thats how I see it, short version.

Nodin · 23-02-2012 4:42pm

Should anyone be fucking prosecuted in this instance is the more relevant question....

squod · 23-02-2012 4:42pm

That judge (or judges) needs sacking ASAP.

token101 · 23-02-2012 4:43pm

What a f***ing retarded idea. Prosecuting a 15 year old for consentual sex, something adults do everyday without retribution. What a f***ing stupid country this is.

squod · 23-02-2012 4:44pm

strobe wrote: »

ECHR
ARTICLE 14

The enjoyment of the rights and freedoms set forth in this Convention shall be secured without discrimination on any ground such as sex, race, colour, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, association with a national minority, property, birth or other status.

CFHREU
Article 20
Equality before the law
Everyone is equal before the law.

Article 21
Non-discrimination
1. Any discrimination based on any ground such as sex, race, colour, ethnic or social origin, genetic
features, language, religion or belief, political or any other opinion, membership of a national minority,
property, birth, disability, age or sexual orientation shall be prohibited.

UNDHR
Article 7.

All are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law. All are entitled to equal protection against any discrimination in violation of this Declaration and against any incitement to such discrimination.

Article 2.

Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.

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Cunts.

In before you're accused of peddling all that freeman nonsense in our constitution........:D

Spunge · 23-02-2012 4:45pm

bring back the death penalty

15 year old boy who had consensual sex with 14 year old girl faces 5 years in prison

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