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hooradiation · 19-11-2009 4:45pm

vinylmesh wrote: »

I think the obvious compromise would be to have video refs only for goals.

But you can then make the argument that if the goal came from a missed call a few minutes before then video refereeing for goals only isn't going to be enough. I mean football tends to be low scoring anyway, technically every decision is important.
So where do you draw the line?

Cuddlesworth · 19-11-2009 4:47pm

Is "the Match" a new tv show or something?

lucky-colm · 19-11-2009 4:50pm

lol

Lord Trollington · 19-11-2009 4:50pm

http://www.rte.ie/
Lads go onto the RTE home page and look at the face on damien duff at the end of teh match ,he is crying it means that much to him.
Its heart wrenching.

Lord Trollington · 19-11-2009 4:52pm

hooradiation wrote: »

But you can then make the argument that if the goal came from a missed call a few minutes before then video refereeing for goals only isn't going to be enough. I mean football tends to be low scoring anyway, technically every decision is important.
So where do you draw the line?

Each manager gets to make one appeal to the video referee.
Be it a penalty decision, or a hand ball that leads to a goal.
It may also encourage players to not cheat, and have some balls, thiery henry showed no class last night celebrating like a fu*king goon.

Biggins · 19-11-2009 4:55pm

If the country of France and more importantly Sarcosy has any dignity, he should say he wants a reply too at the very least.
Otherwise France might be considered in the same "league" from here on in as the two below!
Cheaters!

Prof.Badass · 19-11-2009 5:01pm

hooradiation wrote: »

But you can then make the argument that if the goal came from a missed call a few minutes before then video refereeing for goals only isn't going to be enough. I mean football tends to be low scoring anyway, technically every decision is important.
So where do you draw the line?

I would propose doing it by how far up the pitch the incident happened (i.e if the incident happens in the box it should definitely be reviewed by video refs, possibly if it happened in that half (up for discussion), definitely not if it was on the other side of the pitch). The fact that football is low scoring is the exact reason why video reffing for goals could work so well.

Btw, i love the way one of the articles mentions the vandalism done to his wikipedia and facebook pages (I helped make news!). Pity they didn't mention the ****storm on french yahoo answers

.

Ulysses Gaze · 19-11-2009 5:06pm

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

You actually comtacted gillette to say you were boycotting them? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!

The chap earns about 100 grand a week and you're talking about hitting him in the pocket, yeah good luck with that one!

Jesus people are really losing it, we lost and that's it.

Doesn't matter anyway. Gillette are backing Henry.

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2009/1119/france_ireland5.html

threeleggedhors · 19-11-2009 5:08pm

Jaysus, I'd rather listen to women talk about handbags than Trappatoni's Itallenglish

Agricola · 19-11-2009 5:13pm

Gillette Spokesman: "This is not going to affect our relationship with Thierry Henry"

Well of course not. Hes making them a packet and will continue to do so. Why let the little matter of fair play get in the way. Pretty much somes up the whole fiasco. Big business and the mighty dollar make the world go around. Little aul Ireland can get back in their box where they belong.

hooradiation · 19-11-2009 5:13pm

vinylmesh wrote: »

I would propose doing it by how far up the pitch the incident happened (i.e if the incident happens in the box it should definitely be reviewed by video refs, possibly if it happened in that half (up for discussion), definitely not if it was on the other side of the pitch). The fact that football is low scoring is the exact reason why video reffing for goals could work so well.

Aaaaaaaaaand we're now playing American football.

Frankly, i prefer it with fallible referees. Fine, stuff like this occasionally happens and it sucks if you're on the receiving end. But it can also work in a teams favour. It adds an element of random chance that i like in sports. If i wanted omnipresent adjudication, I'd play FIFA or PES.

It may not a popular sentiment right now, but c'est la vie.

And lets not fool ourselves, had a suspect decision gone our way we wouldn't be screaming to high heaven for a rematch, the level of protesting in general is hypocritical.

OldJay · 19-11-2009 5:22pm

My name is URL wrote: »

Even the Swedes are up in arms over it (the officials were Swedish) saying the ref should be sacked by FIFA!

Who are these "The Swedes"?

Front page of Aftonbladet a tabloid has a go but thats about it that I can see (jag kan lese svenska).

Turtwig · 19-11-2009 5:23pm

How bout retrospective punishment?

E.g It's up to the player to retain a code of honour and acknowledge stuff like blatant handballs or fouls that lead to a penalty or goal, or sending off, or some other match changing event.
If the player doesn't acknowledge it then he is liable to suspension by a review panel after the game.
That way the games flow is held and players are forced to become more honest, because the frankly the way the game is headed now is towards an air of dishonesty.

Agricola · 19-11-2009 5:29pm

John Delaney on Sky News now. Says theyve sent their 'position' to FIFA and the French FA. Hes hoping the French FA in particular might show some integrity and accede to a replay...................... :rolleyes:

My name is URL · 19-11-2009 5:32pm

Justind wrote: »

Who are these "The Swedes"?

Front page of Aftonbladet a tabloid has a go but thats about it that I can see (jag kan lese svenska).

http://www.thelocal.se/23366/20091119/

and various other news sites

Prof.Badass · 19-11-2009 5:35pm

hooradiation wrote: »

Aaaaaaaaaand we're now playing American football.

You said yourself football is low scoring. It wouldn't be like american football at all.

Frankly, i prefer it with fallible referees. Fine, stuff like this occasionally happens and it sucks if you're on the receiving end. But it can also work in a teams favour. It adds an element of random chance that i like in sports. If i wanted omnipresent adjudication, I'd play FIFA or PES.

It may not a popular sentiment right now, but c'est la vie.

I don't think a bit of extra excitement for fans at home should count for anything. I'd be suprised if many players appreciate your sentiment of allowing unfair decisions for the sake of entertainment.

Secondly, you're jumping to the massive conclusion that such unfair decisions are always random. After last night, an awful lot of people are suggesting otherwise.

j1smithy · 19-11-2009 5:43pm

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Lol...

Brady, Giles, Keane & McGrath. And if we include NI, Georgie Best.

Better players than Henry.

By miles.

that is hilarious!

and no you cant include george best, he never played for the south

j1smithy · 19-11-2009 5:48pm

Jimmyboss wrote: »

Former France international David Ginola on BBC Radio 5 Live: "I'm very embarrassed by the situation. I don't feel very proud to be French this morning. The Irish played very well and they deserved to go through as much as France, maybe more. I'm very surprised Fifa haven't mentioned anything about it - the whole world saw the handball. This is a pure injustice. Everyone in France, the press and everyone, says there should be a replay."

See, some people DO have a conscience........

no hes saying that as he knows nothing will happen. sounds good though, makes him look like a nice guy

TheZohanS · 19-11-2009 5:54pm

TheZohan wrote: »

Post in this thread again and I will ban you.

j1smithy wrote: »

that is hilarious!

and no you cant include george best, he never played for the south

j1smithy wrote: »

no hes saying that as he knows nothing will happen. sounds good though, makes him look like a nice guy

Banned for trolling and ignoring warnings.

Takk · 19-11-2009 6:04pm

Unfortunate timing?

fryup · 19-11-2009 6:17pm

that press conference was a damp squib

trappatoni's broken english came across all wrong, he needed someone like Brady there to make a more forceful case

Biggins · 19-11-2009 6:18pm

Takk wrote: »

Unfortunate timing?

Big opps there! LOL
Talk about unlucky timing.

Dionysus · 19-11-2009 6:21pm

Here's some perspective for everybody. It's a poll from today's Le Monde newspaper in France. Over 88% of those who voted said the Irish deserved to win the match and go forward to the World Cup:

http://www.lemonde.fr/sport/sondage/2009/11/19/les-bleus-meritent-ils-leur-place-a-la-coupe-du-monde_1269027_3242.html#ens_id=1245881

CCCP^ · 19-11-2009 6:22pm

Was reading that some French supporters are planning to boycott product's Henry sponsors. Can I ask you all out there, would you consider the same thing?

Takk · 19-11-2009 6:26pm

CCCP^ wrote: »

Was reading that some French supporters are planning to boycott product's Henry sponsors. Can I ask you all out there, would you consider the same thing?

I'm sure he's signed his contracts and made enough to live off. Boycotts won't hurt him much now.

CCCP^ · 19-11-2009 6:27pm

Takk wrote: »

I'm sure he's signed his contracts and made enough to live off. Boycotts won't hurt him much now.

Henry won't be hurt, but the companies who have signed him on as a sponsor may be hurt, especially by bad publicity.

SoupyNorman · 19-11-2009 6:28pm

I think every team through (except France oc) to the WC finals should refuse to play until we get a replay.

Diabhal Beag · 19-11-2009 6:30pm

Had to laugh at all the new "experts" that talk about the match. A lot of them don't know who Keith Andrews is or who Damien Duff plays for. Here's hoping you all stay on the bandwagon and support the team for Euro 2012 qualification.

galwaybabe · 19-11-2009 6:33pm

Over 55,000 people have joined the facebook group, Petition to have Ireland v France replayed. It's growing in numbers literally by the second.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Petition-to-have-IRELAND-Vs-FRANCE-REPLAYED/180940979795?ref=nf#/pages/Petition-to-have-IRELAND-Vs-FRANCE-REPLAYED/180940979795?ref=nf

My name is URL · 19-11-2009 6:38pm

galwaybabe wrote: »

Over 55,000 people have joined the facebook group, Petition to have Ireland v France replayed. It's growing in numbers literally by the second.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Petition-to-have-IRELAND-Vs-FRANCE-REPLAYED/180940979795?ref=nf#/pages/Petition-to-have-IRELAND-Vs-FRANCE-REPLAYED/180940979795?ref=nf

Jesus, that is gaining momentum. 30 people joining it every few seconds =o

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