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Durrr V Isildur1...whats the damage so far?

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  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    zuutroy wrote: »
    Have played with in Voodoo...Can confirm this :p
    I cant play seriously in there, I always have too much fun at the tables :):)

    Mind you my record is pretty good for wins!!

    DeV.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,755 ✭✭✭tylerdurden94


    Moro Man wrote: »
    If a daily swing can be +/- 6million you'd certainly need a roll with 25 times that

    Holy shít thats insane! Before Isildur what was the biggest lost in one day?


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,846 ✭✭✭Moneymaker


    Seen durrr and Ziig playing 50/100 and 25/50 last night :eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,274 ✭✭✭✭mdwexford


    From 2+2
    besight wrote: »
    101209163742_hasting_cashout.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38 nando9


    what does this mean in hastings glory blog

    'I beat up the 25/50 games especially bad to the tune of 8ptbb/100 or so that summer.'


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,163 ✭✭✭Slash/ED


    8ptbb/100 is just a way of measuring a winrate, it's big bet which is twice the big blind. So in this case a big bet is 100 dollars, 8 is 800 dollars, so for the summer he had a winrate of 800 dollars every 100 hands at 25/50, which is obviously a huge winrate


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38 nando9


    Slash/ED wrote: »
    8ptbb/100 is just a way of measuring a winrate, it's big bet which is twice the big blind. So in this case a big bet is 100 dollars, 8 is 800 dollars, so for the summer he had a winrate of 800 dollars every 100 hands at 25/50, which is obviously a huge winrate

    ta


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,086 ✭✭✭the whole year inn


    he is at it again with Brian Townsand


  • Registered Users Posts: 469 ✭✭5Aces


    Which?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 585 ✭✭✭a147pro


    yeah he won 80k as well, good man Isil. played PLO HU deep but I'm not sure what levels that was at. must have been pretty high as he had 200k wins and losses on given tables.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 663 ✭✭✭CourierCollie


    Issi's back, donating to Townsend again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭bubbleking


    i think townsend has just bust isildur1...........sad times


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭cuterob




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 585 ✭✭✭a147pro


    another 400k loss wtf is he at


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,911 ✭✭✭Washout


    Do you think that they are know at the stage where they could be on voice chat with each other when playing him?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭Whyno


    Washout wrote: »
    Do you think that they are know at the stage where they could be on voice chat with each when playing him?

    Shusssssssssh....Conspiracy theory not needed :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,911 ✭✭✭Washout


    Whyno wrote: »
    Shusssssssssh....Conspiracy theory not needed :pac:


    Well if they have each others action then it stands to reason that they are discussing during live play. there could be a situation where there is one guy monitoring each table individually and telling the person playing against him what to do.

    I love conspiracy theories


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,163 ✭✭✭Slash/ED


    I really doubt they'd want or take advice from others during live play, though, even if they did swap action


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Full Tilt Pros risking the entire websites credibility? I doubt it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭NuttKicker


    yeah that was another bad session for isuldur1 dropping nearly 500k in just over 1k hands all to townsend. If he can crush the best at NL, why the hell does he keep playing PLO at these levels, doesn't make sense.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,911 ✭✭✭Washout


    NuttKicker wrote: »
    yeah that was another bad session for isuldur1 dropping nearly 500k in just over 1k hands all to townsend. If he can crush the best at NL, why the hell does he keep playing PLO at these levels, doesn't make sense.

    cause they wont play him @ NLHE...its either this or no action


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,755 ✭✭✭tylerdurden94


    Well then nothing obviously because he is just dropping stupid money to these guys at PLO, he was dictating the games for awhile and now they are doing it to him you think he would cop on a bit.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭Treehouse72


    Washout wrote: »
    cause they wont play him @ NLHE...its either this or no action


    That's what they are saying on 2+2 but I don't buy it for a minute.

    Isi hasn't played enough NL at FTP for the top guys (PI, PA, BT and that lot) to conclusively decide he is better than them. No way. Sure, he won a lot over his first 70k or 80k hands at NL but that's way too small a sample for the best NLHE players in the world to definitely conclude he's too good for them, throw up their hands in despair and just avoid him. That's not the mentality of the top pros.

    A much better explanation is that the top pros realise Isi is a very spewy Omaha player and that their edges are bigger there. Hence, they have all nudged him into that game. Stupidly (or naively) he has allowed them to do this and has paid a very high price. He's been played by da playas.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 164 ✭✭maloney333


    Taken from two plus two:

    Please do note that this is the Blom90 story, not the isildur1 story. It's not confirmed that they are the same person, but lots of sign point towards it and the majority of the poker community thinks that this is the case. This is why this is relevant to the thread.

    The Blom90 story.

    Freely translated by Loctus.
    The first years

    I came in contact with poker in highschool [Loctus note: Swedish highschool is ages 13-15] when my brother taught me texas NL. We used to play some heads up against eachother. It was when the pokerboom hit and it was fun to follow it. After that I taught some friends the game, we were three that used to sit through the nights and play about tiny amounts. Our games could have a 1 krona buyin (read: about 12cents). We used to play with coins, you respected the amounts so much more and if you won 80kr+ [L note: $10] in one night you were really happy. More friends learned the game and when school started back up we used to play on the breaks aswell. There were lots of diny debts between people since everyone wanted to join in and play. When more and more people started joining we played some tournaments with 20-50kr buyin. For example, we had a 50kr tournament where 25 people showed up. I won it, which was nice.

    Going online

    Later on, me and my brother put $100 on a pokersite toghether, the first thing we did was to join a $11 tourney with about 700 players, we came in 5th and won something like $300 which was huge for us. We did run pretty well, for example we were aipf with KJ vs. AK pretty early in the tourney and flopped the nut flush. Obviously rigged, right. We kept playing low torunaments mixed with some shorthanded $6 and $11 SNG's. We did okay but no big wins whatsoever. My brother started playing alone for a while, so I started playing with a friend instead, we split everything we won 50/50 at the time. After a while I started playing under the nick Blom90. I had a nice rush and was soon up to playing $530 FR turbo SNG's. It was when the americans could play on all sites, and it was very fishy games. I soon understood that playing very aggro was the way to win when the blinds got high. I also played some cashgames but at the time I felt like my game was more suited for SNG's and tournaments.

    Betting on most things

    When we were 15 [Loc note: When the pokerboom hit Blom was 13, so he was playing $530 sng's before he was 15yrs old] we started betting more, on stuff like tennis tournaments and this football (read: Soccer) game where everyone takes rounds in passing and shooting while one person is the goalie. It goes on until someone makes 20 points. It was 2 points for a goal, 1p for the pass, and -1p if someone scored when you were the goalie. Things got kinda hostile when some goals were made by foul play or someone made a error, but it was fun anyways. At the time it was for tiny amounts of money and the winner could have won something like $2 or $5. After a while we started betting more and more, we had a tennisgame for $500, etc. But.. It turned worse. We made up a pokergame, based purely on luck, which could become completely crazy. One buddy owed another one over $5000 once. He had enough money to go drinking and pay rent etc though. It resolved itself eventually since we knew eachother so well, we used to make nice deals or bet the debt away. Right now I don't do those bets, but I guess that'll change when summer comes around again. I'm thinking of getting into sports betting at the moment.

    Face down on the ground

    Four months ago after some small rushes I had $300k. Now I was completely busto. It's the worst remorse I've ever felt. Waking up a cold decembermorning [Loctus note: december of 2008] after being up the entire night playing, basically running the account straight into the ground. Then going to school [Loc note: He's now 18] where I was behind in basically everything. I even dream about poker when I have played too much, often when I'm going through rough streaks I've had dreams about winning. It was so damn hard to wake up from those dreams and realize that I had money. The last night when I had lost everything and I went to bed I thought "Please don't let me dream about poker now. I can't take it.". The word 'poker' made me want to throw up. I still remember that feeling... It has to be the definition of why you shouldn't gamble with all your money. The last night when I emptied the account it wasn't even my account, it as a close friends. He was at my place that night, he had about $2k on the account and after I had lost all my money I felt huge preassure. I usually set limits that I can't go below, I told him "I will do fine, trust me". He said "ah well, yeah cya gg gl" and left. Anyways, I started playing the $109 and $210 sng's on partypoker. Got to $3k and started playing the $310's. I did fine, just as with the $210's. Then I met a guy at the $310's, he was pretty good but had some huge flaws. That's when it happened. I played multiple tables against him. Every all in on the flop, I lost. I lost every coinlip. He made sick suckouts, like I flopped TPTK and the NFD and got it all in vs. his tpgk, turn blank and the river hits his kicker. That's how I ran vs. him. In the end I checked the account balance to see how much I had lost. I had $1000 left. Panic! Wtf is going on!?

    Busto. Again.

    I wasn't going to lose, this will work, I have to win it back. I'm deep in the hole now. I go down to the $109 sng's, but I keep running like before. I has to have been the karma from moving up to the $310's. In the end, I bust. Wp. I stand up from my chair feeling completely crushed, not sure what to do. I punch the walls. Never been so tilted. I calm down a bit, I feel sick. I put my party points on his account, not that it's worth much anyways, something like $300. Atleast something that I can use. I move down again, to the $55's. Then the $33's. Then the $22's. I feel like I have to play hard and win it all back now! I can't lose this! I keep losing. Every suckout feels worse than a $5k pot when I had cash. I bubble a SNG and I punch the wall again. I feel empty. Back to the computer, I have two $22 SNG's left and start to realize what's happening but I really want to win it back so badly. Then, busto. Again. %#"%/)"#)

    Feeling sick

    It's 7am and I go to bed. Never felt that bad in my entire life. Two hours later I have a meeting in school about my abcense. I go there and promise to start going to school more to keep the study money [Loc note: goverment gives us $150/month for it]. I get back home and go to bed again. When I was up I go back to school and I talk some to a friend. I'm ashamed and feel like a completely gambling addicted degen. I still had some money left for rent etc. That's why I could lose everything else. Had to call home, it wasn't a nice feeling. I know they will freak out, I hope it settles quickly. Dad flips out, mom is calmer. I talk to mom, can't do it otherwise. I hear my dad yelling in the background. ****, I can't take it, I'm the one who lost the money, I know. Isn't enough with my remorse and feeling this bad? If I ever were to think of suicide, this was the time for it. I just wanted some money so I could pay rent and not have to take their yelling. Didn't want to come back home ever again. We agreed on $800/month to pay for rent and food. It worked out.

    Get a job?

    My parents wanted me to get a job and move back home. That was the last thing I wanted to do, I told them that I was going to get a job though, I had a girlfriend at the time and didn't want to have to move away. Told my parents that I was going to stop playing. I always thought that I would be able to make a living playing poker, but in the end when I was playing 33's and 22's and was losing, that felt like a pipedream. It's not like I can get into any college with my grades anyways. I said that I would get a job quickly, otherwise they'd make me move back home. Panic, again! I need money! Poker? No, can't think about it, too hard.

    Friday night comes around and I barely had any money to go out drinking [Loc note: legal age is 18 here], wp, wp! Oh well, all I could do was drink and **** my problems away. Didn't even get to that though, I just passed out instead. Nice feeling waking up the next day. Not. The days went on and I thought about my situation. Regret regret regret. But, I had decided that I could live on poker fulltime, It's not like I needed to go to school for it. I had three options:
    1. Move back home. Stop playing poker, get back to school.
    2. Get a job. Stop playing poker.
    3. Play poker.

    I needed the money quickly, otherwise I might aswell just move back home, I had to make a decision. Talked some to mom. Not dad, he wanted mom to make me move home. It's nice that mom isn't as hard, she gave me some time, understood my situation. Told me that I had to get a job and grow up. She kept on telling me "NO poker". "No mom, no poker, I promise".

    Out of the three options I had, I chose... Poker. One last time, take a shot at poker. I had lost control of my life now. I knew it, but there was no return. I had to do it.

    This was in the end of December 2008. It's soon 2009. I've decided. I got my hands on $1.5k and put it on ipoker. Now I have one shot to succeed.

    Written by Blom90, translated by Loctus
    originally written for svenskaspelare.com


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Check out the 2nd most viewed player on The Hendon Mob this week.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,846 ✭✭✭Moneymaker


    The-Rigger wrote: »
    Check out the 2nd most viewed player on The Hendon Mob this week.

    Brilliant.


  • Registered Users Posts: 787 ✭✭✭Samoa Joe


    The-Rigger wrote: »
    Check out the 2nd most viewed player on The Hendon Mob this week.

    Hes number 1 now!

    Who is the guy in number 2?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭Flipper


    Hes number 1 now!

    Who is the guy in number 2?
    He linked his profile on a thread on 2+2 whinging about getting done for buyins to live events by some small skin here


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 584 ✭✭✭aidankk


    just heard an interview, with Hastings, on 2+2 Pokercast, and even tough it was never said, there is a distinct whiff of team playing, watching each other and tag teaming at best, all playing together at worst..


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭Treehouse72


    aidankk wrote: »
    just heard an interview, with Hastings, on 2+2 Pokercast, and even tough it was never said, there is a distinct whiff of team playing, watching each other and tag teaming at best, all playing together at worst..


    Poker by committee while multi-tabling HU doesn't really make sense and it is massively unlikely the CR boys were colluding. They have also categorically denied any shenanigans of this sort. And discussing hands/strategy away from the table is 100% standard and ethical. So I think the dark mutterings about Team CR is pretty unwarrented.

    If they were tag-teaming, as seems likely as they lined-up to take on Isi one after another - then it is Isi's fault for not spotting this gathering storm. It is neither unethical nor forbidden to do this, so the CR boys were just maximising their edge away from the table so they owned when they sat in (individually). People - like Isi - who disgregard table selection and BR management really have nothing to complain about when poor game selection and busto-ness screw them up.


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