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Hard luck. You sure it wasn't just nerves + starting too fast in an attempt to beat the oap Ray?
My stomach does be in ribbons for big races, jeez my stomach was in ribbons before the nat 10k and I was keeping the HR under 170 for that and still bricking it.0 -
RacoonQueen wrote: »Hard luck. You sure it wasn't just nerves + starting too fast in an attempt to beat the oap Ray?
My stomach does be in ribbons for big races, jeez my stomach was in ribbons before the nat 10k and I was keeping the HR under 170 for that and still bricking it.
Nope it definitely wasn't nerves or going off too fast. Purely acidic feeling. The fact that my stomach is still in ribbons right now proves that. Feels like it is still trying to get rid of something
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Got on good but a tough day, thought sub 39 might be there but had to settle for 39:17, but at least one of us beat Ray! If you decide to sign up for that, let me know, I'm doing the half and can pick up your number if you don't know anyone else doing it, just PM me.
Fellas, I'm planning to do this HM also. It's to be a litmus test for Cork 3:30 target. I wasn't aware we had to pick up race number in advance so if that's the case can ye keep me up to date with all collection plans?
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chinguetti wrote: »And what did we learn from this: Don't race against Ray.
As you can see from the above conversations, I am being very careful to pick races that ray is not doing for the next while
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After Saturdays race I lay on the sofa feeling sorry for myself with a dodgy stomach and cramps, not feeling like eating. I was also getting a few dizzy spells so I was a bit worried about the following days pacing. Got a text from a mate who was going to watch el classico in the city so I decided to take an Irish solution to the matter, I headed into town for a 'few' pints of guinness and after a while managed to feel ok enough to order and hold down a nice pub grub meal.
Sunday
Wexford HM
Woke up at 7am to get a bit of breakfast before my lift (aimman) arrived. Was feeling a bit dodgy but I put it down to the pints rather than yesterday stomach (as planned) and thus convinced myself I was fine to pace todays race.
We picked up Marhastew and made it down to Wexford. Registrtation was a bit makeshift under a smokers roof outside a pub. So we had little room to get our gear on, including our bright yellow 'Time keeper' bibs.
Anyhow, we went down to the start about 15 minutes before the off and chatted to loads of boardises. I was pacing 1:45 with Marthastew on her maiden pacing gig. Off we went and the first 3k were nice and flat so we built up a nice 20 second cushion and had a lovely group of 25-30 runners and plenty of chat. As expected there was a slight incline from 3-7km. I had told MS that we could give our cushion back here and a few seconds if necessary to keep the group together. As it happened we were bang on target as we entered the castle at the top of the hill and the hill hadn't really affected the group at all. Inside the castle we encountered a few problems, mainly a car blocking passage and then an incredibly tight one way system of loop backs and unfortunately we lost about 20 seconds in these few km so I told MS we needed to hurry a bit when we left the castle. Luckily there was a lovely long downhill stretch from KM 10-13 so by the bottom of the hill were were 20 seconds up and just had to hold 8 min/pace from here on in to hit the target exactly.
The chatter in the group had died at this stage but most of the runners were still with us which was great. I had a quick pitstop just after halfway which was more due to a dodgy stomach than a need to alleviate the bladder and on rejoining the group it was obvious that there were very few runners behind our band of merry men and women and instead there was a very noticeable bunch gathered around MS' red balloon and constant chatter. The last few miles went very smooth. We sent a big bunch on with about 2 mile to go but they stayed only a few metres ahead of us. We dragged a few stragglers who were dropping back on with us and were reunited with most of our group who went ahead with 1k to go but they all stayed with us to the finish line. I let MS run through the line as I hung back a bit to roar behind at a few lads that were were 30seconds up and they could still make it. Thankfully they got the message and sped up over the last 400m to get in under 1:45.
Lots of happy faces and handshakes at the end which makes it all worthwhile.
13.1 miles in 1:44:42 (8 min/mile 150 HR).
It was a pleasure to pace with Marthastew who did a great job. Her constant talk and encouragement really went down well with the pacees.
Weekly total 6/7 days running 41.7 miles
Monday
4.4 miles recovery @ 9:06 pace. My work routine is a little disrupted this week and I am in town for the mornings. I took a bag in with me and changed into my running gear and headed home at lunchtime. Firts time running with a bag which must have weighed 7 kilos. Same again tomorrow. Note to self: wear lighter clothes tomorrow
WTD 1/1 days running 4.4 miles
2011|No. of days Running|Miles|2012 |No. of days Running|Miles
January|28/31|256.3|January|28/31|290.1
February|24/28|236.9|February|27/29|283.2
March|23/31|221.9|March|24/31|204.7
April|22/30|176.4|April|16/23|141.6
May|25/31|198.5|||
June|24/30|180.6|||
July|28/31|269.4|||
August|23/31|244.6|||
September|22/30|200|||
October|26/31|187.5|||
November|28/30|210.1|||
December|24/31|194.3|||
Total|297/365|2576.5|Total|95/114|919.60 -
Bad luck on Saturday Meno but fair play for doing ur pacing duties to perfection in Wexford....Mmmmmm I hope RayCun or some of his entourage didnt tamper with ur grub.. Remember what allegedy happened to the All Black on the eve of the RWC final '85
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Jesus christ man, aside from my bother(who is the incredible barfing man)I dont know another person who pukes as much as you. All joking aside, have you asked your GP about this?
As number swaps are forbidden I wont openly talk about the samsung race, but wink wink nudge nudge.........all im saying is, keep the door open.
Haha, Yeah I went through a phase of unexpected puking about a year ago. I went to the GP and he didn't have a clue :rolleyes: I started taking motillium before races and hadn't had a relapse since last summer. At the time I was feeling sick on all tempo runs/intervals.
Saturday was different though, on the other occassions I puked at the end of races after i was at full exertion and there was nothing wrong before the race (HR ws generally maxing out at those times too).
On saturday I knew I was sick before the race and still don't feel well now. It didn't take too much to put me 'over the edge'. I didn't wear the HRM but I was nowhere near max HR at the time of the 'incident'.
Let me know if you hear of anything for sundays race I'll be ready to run it should the opportunity arise. 0 -
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Tuesday
5 mile jog back from town. 8:50/mile. I noticed the Hr is coming back to normal (131).
Wednesday
Graded meets
I decided to do these months ago but with the monsson conditions in Dublin I figured they might be called off. I texted ecoli who told me they were v.unlikely to be cancelled for any reason so I arrived out in the gales and rain to santry at 6.20pm. Conditions were not pleasant. The organisers were busy sweeping water from the track.
I signed up for the 100m, 800m and Longjump in the lowest grade possible. I knew I was an imposter. these lads were all training specifically for track and I had never done any before. Took a 16 minute jog around the local area. Before togging out into my singlet and spikes and doing 6 100m strides on the indoor track. It was after 7 so I put on a tracksuit and headed out to watch the womens 100m.
Then it was my turn. I hadn't clue what to do. I have never started from blocks before so I had to ask the lad beside me how to set them up
The race went off and I was very slow out of the blocks. I guess there isn't a lot of tecnique in100m so I just pelted it as fast as I could into the sweeping rain and wind. Immediately I was cut adrift but thankfully there was one lad behind. Anyways The winner came in with 12.32 on the clock and I figured I was a second behind. I was hoping to get in the 13s but the official time was confirmed later as 14.00:mad:. At lewast i didn't come last but I was beaten by a fellow with 1 arm
I Tried to keep warm by redonning the tracksuit and soing a few laps of the perimter as I had about a 30 min wait for my 800m heat. When it finally came around the weather was at its worst. The galeforce wind driving down the backstraight and Icy rain too. Everyone waited to the last second to remove their jackets before lining up. I noticed my heat was full of young wippets. all were about 16-18 including the young lads I see sprinting 400 reps down my club while I'm plodding multiple repititions with the oul lads.
My plan was to tryo to hang with the back of the group down the backstraight where the wind was at it's worst but I just couldn't hang on so had to face the elements with no shelter. I was adrift by about 15m after the first lap (71.2) and the lactic hit me bad and I had to trudge alone backdown the backstraight again unable to breath with the wind in my face. Felt like I was doing 9 min/mile here. Finally tuurned onto the home straight again and got some relief but I was a long way back of second last
Came home eventually in 2:39.2 The lap splits of 71.6, 87.6. Tell the story.
The long jump was cancelled due to the bad weather. Did a 2 mile cool down. Legs shaky but no injuries.
I was definitely out of my depth here but still enjoyed it. Will still proabably do the next one next moth (200m and 1500m)
My 800m time was a total disater and I should easily break 2:30 in better conditions, I'll hopefully do the BHAA one on trinity track.
Total miles for the night 5.5 (estimate)
WTD 3/3 days running 14.9 miles
2011|No. of days Running|Miles|2012 |No. of days Running|Miles
January|28/31|256.3|January|28/31|290.1
February|24/28|236.9|February|27/29|283.2
March|23/31|221.9|March|24/31|204.7
April|22/30|176.4|April|18/25|152.1
May|25/31|198.5|||
June|24/30|180.6|||
July|28/31|269.4|||
August|23/31|244.6|||
September|22/30|200|||
October|26/31|187.5|||
November|28/30|210.1|||
December|24/31|194.3|||
Total|297/365|2576.5|Total|97/116|930.10 -
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Don't tell me you Tallaght lads with your fancy track don't have a sprint group? You should go get some tips for your 200m before the next meet.
We do yeah, but I've never joined it for a session. Maybe will do alright. I had no clue about the blocks at all.
By the way ray, Our guy won the 100m A race. I didn't see any of your boys tonight:rolleyes: 0 -
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Tuesday
5 mile jog back from town. 8:50/mile. I noticed the Hr is coming back to normal (131).
Wednesday
Graded meets
I decided to do these months ago but with the monsson conditions in Dublin I figured they might be called off. I texted ecoli who told me they were v.unlikely to be cancelled for any reason so I arrived out in the gales and rain to santry at 6.20pm. Conditions were not pleasant. The organisers were busy sweeping water from the track.
I signed up for the 100m, 800m and Longjump in the lowest grade possible. I knew I was an imposter. these lads were all training specifically for track and I had never done any before. Took a 16 minute jog around the local area. Before togging out into my singlet and spikes and doing 6 100m strides on the indoor track. It was after 7 so I put on a tracksuit and headed out to watch the womens 100m.
Then it was my turn. I hadn't clue what to do. I have never started from blocks before so I had to ask the lad beside me how to set them up
The race went off and I was very slow out of the blocks. I guess there isn't a lot of tecnique in100m so I just pelted it as fast as I could into the sweeping rain and wind. Immediately I was cut adrift but thankfully there was one lad behind. Anyways The winner came in with 12.32 on the clock and I figured I was a second behind. I was hoping to get in the 13s but the official time was confirmed later as 14.00:mad:. At lewast i didn't come last but I was beaten by a fellow with 1 arm
I Tried to keep warm by redonning the tracksuit and soing a few laps of the perimter as I had about a 30 min wait for my 800m heat. When it finally came around the weather was at its worst. The galeforce wind driving down the backstraight and Icy rain too. Everyone waited to the last second to remove their jackets before lining up. I noticed my heat was full of young wippets. all were about 16-18 including the young lads I see sprinting 400 reps down my club while I'm plodding multiple repititions with the oul lads.
My plan was to tryo to hang with the back of the group down the backstraight where the wind was at it's worst but I just couldn't hang on so had to face the elements with no shelter. I was adrift by about 15m after the first lap (71.2) and the lactic hit me bad and I had to trudge alone backdown the backstraight again unable to breath with the wind in my face. Felt like I was doing 9 min/mile here. Finally tuurned onto the home straight again and got some relief but I was a long way back of second last
Came home eventually in 2:39.2 The lap splits of 71.6, 87.6. Tell the story.
The long jump was cancelled due to the bad weather. Did a 2 mile cool down. Legs shaky but no injuries.
I was definitely out of my depth here but still enjoyed it. Will still proabably do the next one next moth (200m and 1500m)
My 800m time was a total disater and I should easily break 2:30 in better conditions, I'll hopefully do the BHAA one on trinity track.
Total miles for the night 5.5 (estimate)
WTD 3/3 days running 14.9 miles
2011|No. of days Running|Miles|2012 |No. of days Running|Miles
January|28/31|256.3|January|28/31|290.1
February|24/28|236.9|February|27/29|283.2
March|23/31|221.9|March|24/31|204.7
April|22/30|176.4|April|18/25|152.1
May|25/31|198.5|||
June|24/30|180.6|||
July|28/31|269.4|||
August|23/31|244.6|||
September|22/30|200|||
October|26/31|187.5|||
November|28/30|210.1|||
December|24/31|194.3|||
Total|297/365|2576.5|Total|97/116|930.1
Good on ya for giving it a go. I wouldn't lose heart. Definitely keep doing them and you'll get better. Bit of an eye opener with regards the the sub 60 400m though eh? Bit of work to be done.
Did you have a tailwind or a headwind for the 100m?I guess there isn't a lot of tecnique in100m
This is very incorrect. The 100m is all about technique.0 -
Deffo, Based on my 71 second first lap in the 800m, I'd say I could squeeze out a 65 second one lapper at best. I somehow figuerd that sprints would be like road races, I'd pull out way faster times in a race than in training. I was wrong there. There's only so fast your legs will carry you (especially over 100m).Good on ya for giving it a go. I wouldn't lose heart. Definitely keep doing them and you'll get better. Bit of an eye opener with regards the the sub 60 400m though eh? Bit of work to be done.Did you have a tailwind or a headwind for the 100m?
It was kind of a cross wind, very strong. Slightly helping, but with the rain etc the winning lads said they were down on expected times.This is very incorrect. The 100m is all about technique.
I'm sure it is, must get some tips from the sprint group.0 -
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