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Paul McCartney Conspiracy Theory

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭koHd


    mysterious wrote: »
    I have came accross this theory a year ago by a friend. He was no ordinary guy as I found out. We did some tests and what not. He asked me because he felt I am an "eggman". I will admit even I didn't know what this meant. I actually assumed he was taking the piss with me. After several email exchanges. We spoke of very revealing things.

    mysterious wrote: »
    When this person I got into contact with, who was bewildered by my perceptual abilities he brought this theory forward to me and challenged me. Little did I know this was happening on purpose.

    Having read all of your posts in this thread I found it quite funny that you are warning us all not to be have the wool pulled over our eyes about reality and the illuminati, yet to me it comes across like you have had the wool pulled over your own eyes by this person you have been in contact with about these theories.

    I assume you know how brainwashing works?

    The early stages are full of compliments for the victim telling them they are special and different.
    mysterious wrote: »
    I'm not going into this, I've done my homework. I think it's fair that everyone should tease this out themselves. Nobody here should ever be responsible for what someone learns on this world

    You keep saying you've done your homework and know more than we do on this topic. What homework have you done? Besides reading peoples personal opinions and takes on this conspiracy theory?

    And again it's funny that you say "Nobody here should ever be responsible for what someone learns on this world".

    I'd say your entire knowledge on the illuminati and conspiracy theories such as this are learnt from other peoples opinions and takes on things.

    I'm not looking for an argument by the way. I find it interesting reading some of the stuff you write. But you do need to back up some of the stuff.

    No point in posting "I know more than you all do about this case and my views are more correct than yours, but I'm not going to back these claims up as I've done it a year ago".

    If you didn't want to get into a debate, you shouldn't post the stuff you have posted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭mysterious


    koHd wrote: »
    Having read all of your posts in this thread I found it quite funny that you are warning us all not to be have the wool pulled over our eyes about reality and the illuminati, yet to me it comes across like you have had the wool pulled over your own eyes by this person you have been in contact with about these theories.

    I assume you know how brainwashing works?

    The early stages are full of compliments for the victim telling them they are special and different, in a good way.


    He didn't compliment me. I have eyes and a brain and I can see for myself. He didnt show me anything. He tested my perceptual skills.

    For someone stating you read my posts. This proves you haven't.

    You keep saying you've done your homework and know more than we do on this topic. What homework have you done? Besides reading peoples personal opinions and takes on this conspiracy theory?

    Where have I said I read other people's C.Ts?

    evidence for this claim?
    And again it's funny that you say "Nobody here should ever be responsible for what someone learns on this world".

    I'd say your entire knowledge on the illuminati and conspiracy theories such as this are learnt from other peoples opinions and takes on things.

    I'm not looking for an argument by the way. I find it interesting reading some of the stuff you write. But you do need to back up some of the stuff.

    No point in posting "I know more than you all do about this case and my views are more correct than yours, but I'm not going to back these claims up as I've done it a year ago".

    If you didn't want to get into a debate, you shouldn't post the stuff you have posted.

    The rest of your post is just assumptions and lack of view take on my points.

    Where did I state I know all. If you claimed to read my posts. I did already make myself clear.

    Good luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭koHd


    mysterious wrote: »
    He didn't compliment me. I have eyes and a brain and I can see for myself. He didnt show me anything. He tested my perceptual skills.

    For someone stating you read my posts. This proves you haven't.

    He said to you he felt you were an "eggman". Which you went on to describe as somebody with greater perceptional abilities than most people?

    To me that's a compliment.

    He also was "bewildered" by your perception. That's a compliment.

    mysterious wrote: »
    Where have I said I read other people's C.Ts?

    evidence for this claim?

    Ok...you just posted a theory in another thread which was written by somebody else. By reading into what you then said about the writings, it seems you believe the writings. Which means the person who wrote it is responsible for what you learnt about that particular theory.

    But this part of the debate is pointless. It's quite obvious that we all gain our knowledge from other people throughout our life. Maybe I misunderstood what you meant you said nobody should be responsible for what another learns on this world?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭mysterious


    koHd wrote: »
    He said to you he felt you were an "eggman". Which you went on to describe as somebody with greater perceptional abilities than most people?

    To me that's a compliment.

    He also was "bewildered" by your perception. That's a compliment.
    He was bewildered by my work. Like the teacher was bewildered you passed your spelling test.


    Been an eggman simply means your intouch with your higherself. I don't go around thinking it's a compliment. The crown chakra is what it is, everyone has one. The man noted that I was connected to this energy. Your making a big deal out of somethng you don't understand or can't judge. So it's best not to try assume to much. You made a claim he brainwashes me. That is a very ignorant statement since you have not been involved with my dicussion. I haven't talked to him in many months now. Hes a person who has great understanding and wisdom. He didn't compiment me on my work, he affirmed me of the work I was doing already.


    I think your comment saying someone who in touch with thier higher self and calling them and eggman is brainwashing is one of the most ridicolous notions Ive ever heard. If you really want to know something of this convo at least pm me, rather than just making up silly assumptions.



    Ok...you just posted a theory in another thread which was written by somebody else. By reading into what you then said about the writings, it seems you believe the writings. Which means the person who wrote it is responsible for what you learnt about that particular theory.

    They are not theories they are realities that go on outside this world and many things have gone on. Many people are in touch with the higher knowings.

    This is the transmission that is currently happening on this planet many are waking up and realisng who they truly are. The higher chakra ponts are basically opening where you can see far beyond the physical and that of what we depend on for info via the leaders of the world.
    But this part of the debate is pointless. It's quite obvious that we all gain our knowledge from other people throughout our life. Maybe I misunderstood what you meant you said nobody should be responsible for what another learns on this world?


    Be responsible for yourself and trust your own knowing. I posted a link to something I have channeled on myself. I just gave Paddy the link that is all. I agree you on your last point as been pointless to dicuss. I don't see the point in getting hot and bothered about one another over it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭koHd


    mysterious wrote: »
    He was bewildered by my work. Like the teacher was bewildered you passed your spelling test.


    Been an eggman simply means your intouch with your higherself.

    I'm starting to think you're just a windup artist, mysterious :) heh

    But...
    mysterious wrote: »
    He was bewildered by my work. Like the teacher was bewildered you passed your spelling test.


    Being an eggman simply means you're in_touch with your higherself.

    People in glass houses...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭bonkey


    Thats it with the yellow cards. Any more personal digs at each other, and the gloves come off


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭koHd


    Sorry mysterious :)

    At no point was I seriously trying to offend. Just a bit of banter.

    But will keep it on topic from now on. I do enjoy your posts :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,434 ✭✭✭DigiGal


    mysterious wrote: »
    Don't be making assumptions about me personally just because I've done my homework on this subject. It's a year ago now. I haven't fret or dicussed this on another point. I told a beatles fan recently of my recent findings. Gave him a few videos and clues to watch. I told him that truth will hit him in the face in time.


    Strangely enough he was shocked at the findings.


    Doesn't mean I'm paronoid or living in fear. Seriously that is just a stupid statement. I'm somone who is aware and pays attention to the world, the world people don't really have any interest in. I can take reality, I can take the brunt truth. The horrors, the lies, the manipulation, the trickery. It is everywhere. I've specifically said it's about wake up time, believing and swinging sides to whos right and wrong is futile. There are things going on in the world that would you make you jump out of your skin. There is not hideous about this theory whatsoever. I think this is a great game the illiuminati played with you all. In reality they are pulling the strings all the time. I really have no time for people who just come on here and take shots at people without doing their research first. I don't think it's fair to force my opinions on others. It's up to you what you do with your own mind and how you come to your own conclusions on this matter. But it's not exactly good to judge someone personally just because he/she believes in this theory.


    The question is, you should ask the questions? Judge only when you have gone through this mill. Find out for yourself if this is really true. Nobody here should be taking this too personal. I will post up the picture and finish with this thread. I've said what I had to say.


    Just to ask you this, you say replacing a person cant be done. Have you spoken to the powers of be? Have you spoken to John before he was shot? Do you know what sort of people own the music industry? Do you realise people get assinated all the time. There are reallly really satanic people in this world and they will do anything to keep everything incontrol. If it means replacing Paul, its nothing to silly to do. I believe the real illuminati are playing tricks with you. Its like the chess player is trying to see can you decifer this one. This world is some great deception to the many things we do not see or sense. We all think we know it all. But someone else out there is always a step ahead of us no matter what you do. People in power are there for a reason and that reason is above you, me, your family, and everyone on this thread.


    Again it comes down to letting go your belief patterns and taking a fresh look at the world we really do not understand. We are all victim to it. We tend to judge the world from our education perspective. What we learnt in school. So when this theory comes up we look to our scientists, education systems, someone with a degree to tell us whats real and whats not. lol..


    Who runs the system?
    Who runs the church?
    Who runs Nasa?
    Who runs the schools?
    Who is the puppet master behind Obama?
    Who is incharge of what the mainstream news.

    Oh it's someone alright. Just because you may not see it that way doesnt mean its not actually happening.
    Dude honestly......

    I really don't care.

    I love the Beatles. I love their MUSIC
    I couldn't give 2 fecks if they are controlled by the illuminati, Satan, NASA whoever,
    As a musician I appreciate their musical talent. I have much more importnat things to worry about than who "runs the show" I mean what am i gonna do.
    How about you send an email to Apple Corps, tell them your theories.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭mysterious


    DigiGal wrote: »
    Dude honestly......

    I really don't care.

    I love the Beatles. I love their MUSIC
    I couldn't give 2 fecks if they are controlled by the illuminati, Satan, NASA whoever,
    As a musician I appreciate their musical talent. I have much more importnat things to worry about than who "runs the show" I mean what am i gonna do.
    How about you send an email to Apple Corps, tell them your theories.

    Good for you! No one is asking you to care! But the truth is there if people want to know the truth. Nobody is forcing you to read this. I appreciate their music talent minus fake Paul. I appreciate how John handled the whole thing before he got shot for it.

    I don't need to send anyone an email. As I said specifically in this thread already, I'm not responsble for what any of you learn or believe and I'm not going to force my beliefs on this matter either.. It's your choice what you learn and you believe in life. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,385 ✭✭✭ThunderCat


    Well what a load of old bolloxs. I honestly cannot believe some of the stuff that lad is posting on here. It's amazing that a series of elaborate cover-ups and payoffs by record company executives is more believable to him than the possibility that McCartney is still alive today. You only have to look at any number of photos and listen to recordings from any period in McCartneys career to know it's the same person. The only unbelivable part about it is that you find that so hard to believe. And for a lad thats so enlighted and knowledgable, your spelling is ****. You should get out for a pint once in a while lad, the fresh air on the way to the pub will stop your brain churning out such rubbish.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭mysterious


    ThunderCat wrote: »
    Well what a load of old bolloxs. I honestly cannot believe some of the stuff that lad is posting on here. It's amazing that a series of elaborate cover-ups and payoffs by record company executives is more believable to him than the possibility that McCartney is still alive today. You only have to look at any number of photos and listen to recordings from any period in McCartneys career to know it's the same person. The only unbelivable part about it is that you find that so hard to believe. And for a lad thats so enlighted and knowledgable, your spelling is ****. You should get out for a pint once in a while lad, the fresh air on the way to the pub will stop your brain churning out such rubbish.

    I know it's hard when someone messes up this 8 to 5 reality. The life we worked up so much. The life we are living is unbelievable. Your entitled to what you want to believe. I even can understand your anger. Been there.

    You may want to look at those photos again. eek. We are all quick to judge without really looking at it more objectively. I don't reallly care if th truth is revealed on this. Like many cover ups. It doesn't matter if it's obvious or not, it will not swing peoples beliefs systems for the most part.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,385 ✭✭✭ThunderCat


    mysterious wrote: »
    I know it's hard when someone messes up this 8 to 5 reality. The life we worked up so much. The life we are living is unbelievable. Your entitled to what you want to believe. I even can understand your anger. Been there.

    You may want to look at those photos again. eek.


    Fair enough, and each to their own I suppose. Im not angry however, just perplexed that some people go out of their way to avoid reality. Mysteries of life eh!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭mysterious


    ThunderCat wrote: »
    Fair enough, and each to their own I suppose. Im not angry however, just perplexed that some people go out of their way to avoid reality. Mysteries of life eh!

    Life is a mystery because we never venture the unknown. Therefore it stay's a mystery.

    We all like to get the first bus out of town. Anyway I only replied to this thread as you responded to me. Honestly there is no need to get upset over this. I think it's important to look at this with an open mind first then come to your conclusions. I know it's hard. I laughed at this in the beginning. I don't want to rock the boat as I know it will upset many people. I have total empathy with that. This is going to my last post on this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭koHd


    Right lads back on topic.

    Does anybody have anymore links to funny evidence?

    It's good entertainment all the same. And maybe the beatles did do it as an elaborate hoax.

    wouldn't it be great if they did. Would add a depth to their music.

    And if they didn't, I hope some band out there now gives it a go.

    Maybe U2 can start putting subliminal stuff in that Bono is an alien or something Haha

    Somebody is bound to find the hints and think they've uncovered an amazing truth. I've never wished I was an uber famous rock star more. The fun I'd be having heh


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,914 ✭✭✭✭tbh


    dunno if it's been mentioned, but the reg on the vw beetle (if memory serves me correctly) is 28 IF.

    i.e. he would have been 28 if he'd survived. Oasis put that reg on the car in the pool on the cover of Be Here Now. Also, John is alleged to have said "turn me on, dead man" in backwards speak at the end of Rev #9.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 283 ✭✭Black Uhlan


    tbh wrote: »
    dunno if it's been mentioned, but the reg on the vw beetle (if memory serves me correctly) is 28 IF.

    i.e. he would have been 28 if he'd survived. Oasis put that reg on the car in the pool on the cover of Be Here Now. Also, John is alleged to have said "turn me on, dead man" in backwards speak at the end of I am the Walrus.

    Only problem with that is that he would've been 27 at the time.

    Here is the best clue of all.

    I think "live" is wordplay :eek:

    On the beetle in the background it says "51 IS" the age he was when the record was released.


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


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    Source: http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wired.it%2Fmagazine%2Farchivio%2F2009%2F06%2Fstorie%2Fchiedi-chi-era-quel-%25C2%25ABbeatle%25C2%25BB-.aspx&sl=auto&tl=en
    I always though the Paul is Dead CT was interesting but essentially complete bollox. This (decently google translated) from Italian Wired Magazine has got me thinking though...

    An anthropmetery and craniometrics expert together with a computer expert analyse pre and post Paul is dead photo's

    (read article for better explanation on their credentials)

    This is some of their findings:
    Two images pre '66, compared and taken on a single scale of reference to homogenise proportions, show a perfect coincidence of the main key points.In particular, the mandibular curve, ie, the line can be traced to the computer to define the lower perimeter of the face, say from ear to ear via the chin, reveals essentially identical. . The margin of error is less than one percent. "For the perfect coincidence between two images is virtually impossible," says Gavazzeni, "by convention is considered acceptable at most 2.5 percent difference. Beyond this limit, the divergence is such as to favor the different identity between the two entities in question. Since in this case the difference is less than one percent the problem does not arise: the two photos show definitely the same person. " It was at this point to search for other photos with similar characteristics, but subsequent to the alleged incident.

    So, pre-66' photos match.
    That McCartney certainly portrayed in the first half of 1967, was then joined to another picture, a few years later, taken between 1971 and 1972.This goal was to repeat the ready-made comparison with the images of the early sixties and then proceed with comparative figures come from two groups of pictures.

    Again, the two new images there is a good compatibility.It only remains to compare the image data prior to the date of the alleged incident and subsequent ones.

    "The surprise was great," says Gavazzeni, "The mandibular curve between the two groups of photos showed a discrepancy of over 6 percent, far beyond the error threshold.. But there was more. Changed its profile mandibular development: prior to 1966 on each side of the mandible consists of two sharp curves, since 1967 there seems to be a single curve. In Short, there is a different morphologic curve.

    Mandubular Curve = Jaw Line Curve

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    So, Jaw line is different before and after 66'.
    And the surprises do not end there because the relentless Gavazzeni, like a boxer who feels close to the opponent ko, grip does not let on that photo in which McCartney, ignorant, mentions a smile a bit 'confused' To the naked eye is known what will be a constant in the photos from that moment on, a pair of digital imaging to look pretty obvious expert. There is a gray area that covers the outside corner of left eye. Only some time no longer visible. And going to search at that point, where for years there was one dark spot, now there is a cross between a scar and a sign of skin stretched like a beauty retouching.

    Pre-66 "a gray area that covers the outside corner of the left eye". Post 66 a scar.
    The most immediate explanation is that probably in the sixties, was made for an action on the eyes but it was something imperfect, that for a long time he has gone on to mask. "

    There is a detail regarding the shape of the skull: "Indeed, the impression is that the shape of the head has been made a little 'rounder', Gavazzeni says:" Then the reduced effective length, using a loophole in use time and that was achieved in print. " Eff activating change the conformation of the skull of an adult is an impossibility.Yet, judging from the photos, is what you see.

    Paul's skull somehow got "rounder" after 66.

    Gabriella Carlesi adds an additional element: "Compared to the previous picture, that of clearly shows that the labial, ie the line formed by the union of the two lips, suddenly stretched. What is clearly not possible and with a mustache can not camouflage. "In other words, and is a phenomenon all too frequently these days, the lips may be swollen and increased in volume, but the extent of labial can not vary much. May be very slight, but this is not the case of photos examined: here the difference between before and after is too strong to have been caused by any surgery. Plus, always under the mustache McCartney Sgt Pepper's ,maybe you tried to hide something else: what specialists call the point or nose-cord sottonasale (edit by me: "sottonasale" = "subnasal" - http://www.dental-dictionary.info/words/81500-sottonasale.html) . It is the point between the two nostrils where your nose begins to break away from his face: "This is again a trait that medicine can not change surgery. Can change the shape of the nose but not the point nose-cord, "says Gabriella Carlesi. "And among the first group of photos of McCartney and the second one then varies clearly."

    So post and pre 66 has different lips and nose.

    There are impossible things, and things that are possible but at the cost of operations long, painful and never perfect. Now, careful examination of some of McCartney's pictures before and after the 1966 autumn leaves one , it must be said, shocked: "First of all there is right upper canine," observes Gabriella Carlesi. "In the photos prior to 1966 is known as forward of the line of the dental arch. It's the classic case of a tooth due to lack of space ends up misaligned, pushed out by pressure of other teeth. It is rather curious that the same dog (canine?), in photos from 1967 forward, but always stick out for no apparent reason: the images show that the space would have to be aligned with adjacent teeth. . It is as if you wanted to recreate a detail in a mouth where anomalia would never could express.

    To summarise this

    Paul's upper right canine seen here
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    Here is a more extreme example on the left.


    bran.jpg


    is present in both the "before" and "after" pictures but there is a big and mysterious difference. Paul "before the crash" upper right canine protruded because of a lack of space in his mouth. Paul after the crash somehow had room to spare for all of his teeth comfortably :confused::confused::confused:
    The best explanation the Italian expert can give is that the protruding canine in the "after" was intentionally put there after surgery.

    The real crux of the argument suggested by Gabriella dental identification Carlesi covers the whole palate of McCartney that before 1966, shows narrow enough to justify various misalignments of teeth, albeit in less obvious forms of upper right canine. After the release of Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band , however, the palates of McCartney expands considerably, so that front teeth no longer rotate on its axis as before. With one on, except the usual canine."A change in the shape of the palate," concludes Carlesi 'sixties it was not impossible but would be very traumatic, the result of an actual intervention maxillofacial. In practice McCartney should have been subjected to an operation that would involve the opening of the palatal suture, breaking the bone and then a long prosthetic and orthodontic treatment In other words, to effect change so sensitive to McCartney in the sixties was necessary not only action particularly painful and bloody but also the use of a fixed orthodontic multiband then, for over a year. Which would not have been possible to hide and would be obvious repercussions on the performance of a professional singer voice. "But above all, Gabriella Carlesi concludes," that Paul McCartney might have reasons for undergoing such an ordeal?.
    Technically called tragus.. All we have two, one for each ear, but the characteristics are different for every human being. "In Germany, a recognition procedure craniometric, identification of the right ear is equivalent to dactyloscopy indeed, that the fingerprinting," recalls Carlesi. It's that little cartilage covered with skin above the ear canal entrance and which, like around the ear, can not be changed surgically. How then explain the differences between the right ear by Paul McCartney in a snapshot prior to 1966 and probably built in the late nineties? Not only is the tragus to betray a different conformation, but also other parts like, just above the entrance canal, Things that ordinary mortals can seem irrelevant or unclear but that every day allow experts to locate and identify persons, bodies and images.

    1126.jpg


    So different ears too?


    So thats Different
    1. Ears
    2. Teeth
    3. Lips
    4. Nose
    5. Shaped Skull
    6. Eyes
    7. Jaw Line


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭mysterious


    They are not the same guy, and most people laugh because they are to away in the fairies about the trivial "normal everyday life"

    They actually do look different. The beard and moustache on him at 1966 made it even more obvious as he was trying to hide the physical features. Over the years he had more work done to make him look more like him.

    I've seen a few interviews of where he was asked about this conspiracy theory and he became really unsettled.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 101 ✭✭mugs1


    mysterious wrote: »
    They are not the same guy, and most people laugh because they are to away in the fairies about the trivial "normal everyday life".

    Really... away in the fairies about the trivial everyday life, really???

    Care to elaborate on that one?

    mysterious wrote: »
    The beard and moustache on him at 1966 made it even more obvious as he was trying to hide the physical features..

    lol...It was the sixties!!!

    mysterious wrote: »
    I've seen a few interviews of where he was asked about this conspiracy theory and he became really unsettled.

    So would you, if people were trying to tell you, you weren't you because you died in the sixties.. lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭mysterious


    mugs1 wrote: »
    Really... away in the fairies about the trivial everyday life, really???

    Care to elaborate on that one?




    lol...It was the sixties!!!




    So would you if people were trying to tell you you weren't you, because you died in the sixties.. lol
    :rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭espinolman


    Maybe he is a shape shifting alien reptile , that would explain it .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,576 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Yes, because that would be a logical explanation


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭RGDATA!


    they are the same guy. Paul never died.

    seriously cringing and laughing hysterically here that some are caught up in some sort of fantasy that there are two pauls :rolleyes:. it's like 1967 on boards here.

    actually, the above is a good example of a completely useless response the like of which frustrates readers of this board like me, so to elabourate,
    here are some reasons i think there aren't "two pauls":

    from the point of view of a musician who is very familiar with mccartney's playing - the idea that paul died, and was secretly replaced with someone who not only looked like him but
    - sounded exactly like him
    - had the same impressive vocal range
    - played bass as distinctively and exceptionally well as him
    - also happened to be left handed like mccartney
    - continued to compose in the "original paul's" characteristic style (in fact wrote some of his best material post-"switchover")
    is completely fantastic.

    or put another way, i think it would be much harder to get someone to copy his style so perfectly, be equally as accomplished a player and composer and just happen to be left handed than it would to find someone who simply looked a bit like him if you grew out his beard.
    i have never seen a good musical analyis of how it's a different paul before/after the supposed death, or which acknowledges that this musical proficiency/perfect similarity of style would be far harder to pull off than just looking like mccartney.


    in this case i believe my ears, and my ears say resoundingly it is the same paul.

    :pac::rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭Bog Warrior


    This site has a forensic dissertation using methods of photo analysis
    also has loads of other stuff, including the whole story apparently told by George

    http://digilander.libero.it/jamespaul/fc1.html

    The more I look at pre 1966 photos the less I see the man claiming to be Sir Paul Mc Cartney today


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭RGDATA!


    This site has a forensic dissertation using methods of photo analysis
    also has loads of other stuff, including the whole story apparently told by George

    http://digilander.libero.it/jamespaul/fc1.html

    The more I look at pre 1966 photos the less I see the man claiming to be Sir Paul Mc Cartney today

    rolleyes cringe etc.
    have a listen to the music and get back to me

    edit:
    joking about the rolleyes, but even if if you really think they look dissimilar, do you not think that it's more plausible that paul mccartney changed in appearance from his early to late 20s, or had plastic surgery that altered his appearance, than died and was replaced by someone who sounded/played/composed exactly like him.
    this theory seems to focus on how paul looked pre/post a certain date, not how he sounded/played/composed.
    have you analysed it from a musical point of view?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭Bog Warrior


    You should check out the dissertation on the link I posted. Such methods are scientific and legally accepted. AFAIK The shape of a mans skull and bone structure does not change over time

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭Bog Warrior


    The story goes that the Beatles stayed together until pauls remaining material was all released. The 'fake paul' was a musician called Phil Ackrill.
    Previously he was with "The Diplomats Band" apparently he could sing like Paul

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭Bog Warrior


    Oh yea forgot to add that Beatles stopped playing live at that point and became a studio band


    My personal opinion is that most of the theory is probably made up but it is very difficult to argue against the structural analysis in the Italian magazine and the photographic analysis above, and very hard to explain the results away


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭Di0genes


    Oh yea forgot to add that Beatles stopped playing live at that point and became a studio band

    Yes because Paul McCartney has never performed any beatles songs since this point live ever......
    My personal opinion is that most of the theory is probably made up but it is very difficult to argue against the structural analysis in the Italian magazine and the photographic analysis above, and very hard to explain the results away

    Yes there is. Without knowledge of the lens used in both photos, the type of camera, the distance, it's pure guess work on a bunch of idiots parts, who I imagine have absolutely no working background in forensic identification or photographic forensics.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭Bog Warrior


    Di0genes wrote: »
    Yes because Paul McCartney has never performed any beatles songs since this point live ever......


    No but his imposter has since


    There really are loads of photos analysed here showing correlation and conflict and I recommend reading it

    http://digilander.libero.it/jamespaul/fc1.html


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