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Acer Aspire Revo R3600, £159.95 delivered to Ireland from Ebuyer
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me too, but i was still in college the last time i needed to create a ram drive.smccarrick wrote: »Lol- I'm not that old- I just assume people edit config files etc as need be? I do admit that I work in IT though.
EDIT: just checked your profile & you're less than 2 years older than I am, so you're doing grand. either that or i'm almost ready to be pushing up daisies! 0 -
That's OK, I don't work in IT but am indeed exceedingly aged, and looking forward to viewing my old plates on this new-fangled device.what he means is, he's actually very old and has been in IT for years and has mad archaic skillz that go back to pre-windows days when you couldn't survive without knowing how to manually edit config files in DOS to re-assign memory and create ram drives and all sorts of other hocus pocus that us youngsters never had to learn thanks to the invention of the GUI. :pac:
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ebuyer now have "over 100" of the R3700 (Intel Atom D525 1.8GHz, 2GB RAM, 160GB HDD, No Optical Drive, NVIDIA ION 2, Wireless LAN, Linpus Linux) in stock for £199.24 now.
and also "over 50" of the R3610 (Intel Atom 330, 2GB RAM, 160GB HDD, Wired Keyboard and Mouse, NVIDIA ION, WLAN, Linux) for £199.99.
I could be tempted by the 'all black' R3700 tho, I'm looking at going for an all black look for my TV area. a new PS3 slim and ps move, a new mini xbox360 with the kinect yoke, swap the white wii for a black one, get a sky+ HD 1tb (which is also all black).
of course it's all going to depend on if i get my finger out, but i suspect it will end in an old 2nd hand black xbox, a repair of my old ps3 and a can of black spray paint for the old sky+ box and the revo.
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think you may have missed my last post, they've shifted everything around again and they now have a basic (160gb hdd, 2gb ram) R3700 and R3610 for the same price.
Yes, I did indeed. Thanks for pointing out. Furthermore, those systems don't seem to show up when you do a search for "Aspire Revo" on Ebuyer, so I didn't spot them.
So now we have two comparable systems and I think I would still go for the older one. The reason apart from eSATA for me would be this: http://hwbot.org/hardware/processor/atom_330?tab=2drankings
The old ION boards should be great to fiddle around with clockwise. I didn't try by myself, but I certainly will. If you get the ATOM330 running stable at 1.8 or even 2GHz it will most certainly be faster than the 3700 in all areas.
If you need it just for some office applications or as HTPC (minus HD flash) go for the new one. It looks better 0 -
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Yes, I did indeed. Thanks for pointing out. Furthermore, those systems don't seem to show up when you do a search for "Aspire Revo" on Ebuyer, so I didn't spot them.
So now we have two comparable systems and I think I would still go for the older one. The reason apart from eSATA for me would be this: http://hwbot.org/hardware/processor/atom_330?tab=2drankings
The old ION boards should be great to fiddle around with clockwise. I didn't try by myself, but I certainly will. If you get the ATOM330 running stable at 1.8 or even 2GHz it will most certainly be faster than the 3700 in all areas.
If you need it just for some office applications or as HTPC (minus HD flash) go for the new one. It looks better
Quaderno,
You seem to the 'The Man' in relation to Revo specs etc so I'd appreciate it if you can give me a steer?
I want a "device" whose primary role will be to download, store and play movies as well as act as a repository for home/family videos, pictures etc etc. If it can be used to browse the web and stream content from sites like RTE Player all the better.
My pal has an Iomega ScreenPlay Director 2TB HD Media Player and loves it's simplicity but the Acer Revo's seem to be able to do the same as the Iomega Media Player but also much much more as they are fully functioning PC's. I am competent at tweaking software and loading drivers etc but wouldn't be a serious modder or hacker.
My questions are:-
1. Which Acer Revo model should I be going for? There is this 3700 http://www.ebuyer.com/product/236579 entry level Linux based model for £203 at one end of the spectrum or this 3700 http://www.ebuyer.com/product/236581 fully blown Win 7 model at the other end for £338 with this R3610 Win 7 model http://www.ebuyer.com/product/225756 in between at £254.
2. Can I download, store and play movies, stream content and generally browse the web 'out of the box' or do I need to hack/mod the box in any serious way? (I have no clue or experience with Linux so maybe I just pay the extra and go for one of the the Win 7 versions?)
3. How can the Acer Revo be a serious Media Player if it only comes with a 160GB (Linux) or 500BG (Win 7) Hard Drive? Would I not have to add a 2TB Slave drive onto it via USB in order for it to really function as a Media Player and if so should I be going the eSata direction (therefore R3610) or is USB the best way to go?
4. If the machine is tucked away behind my HD Plasma whats the best way to control it in Media Centre mode? I have an Android phone and have used Gmote to control my Laptop for playing movies so I guess there are similar applications which would let me control XBMC or similar on the Revo?
5. Can I run the Revo through my Onkyo amp in order to get the full benefit from my Jamo surround sound system or does it need to be connected directly to my TV?
6. Where do solutions like the Boxee Box, Mede8er and PLAYON!HD fit into the equation? Are they somewhere in between the plane Jane Iomega Media Player and the Acer HTPC solution?
I know I'm seriously confused.com here so really would appreciate some advice. At the moment I'm storing and playing video content via HDMI output from my Laptop through my Onkyo Amp to my Plasma TV and Jamo surround sound systems so I know I need to find a dedicated solution and when better to dive in than the month of January when I'll have loads of evenings to set it up and play around with it?
Cheers in advance if take the time to respond, I appreciate it.
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I actually ordered one (the £180 Revo 3610) just last week and didn't even receive it yet. So all my "experience" comes from reading a fair amount of reviews. So be careful, all I say could be entirely wrongQuaderno,
You seem to the 'The Man' in relation to Revo specs etc so I'd appreciate it if you can give me a steer?
Yes, that's exactly how I see it. I don't like to have too many devices lying around, better just a few that can do more. I think both Revo models will be perfectly able to do all the things you mention and much more. Streaming online content could be limited by the network rather than the perfomance of the device, as the integrated wlan card seems to be regarded by many as being crappy at best. There are even videos on youtube on how to change the antenna. The positioning of the device (e.g. possible interference from the tv set) seems to play a major role as well. But apart from that browsing the web, watching movies (all formats including full HD, depending on the player and codecs you want to use) and typical office stuff will be absolutely fine, no matter which one you choose.I want a "device" whose primary role will be to download, store and play movies as well as act as a repository for home/family videos, pictures etc etc. If it can be used to browse the web and stream content from sites like RTE Player all the better.
My pal has an Iomega ScreenPlay Director 2TB HD Media Player and loves it's simplicity but the Acer Revo's seem to be able to do the same as the Iomega Media Player but also much much more as they are fully functioning PC's.
I think the one in the middle represents the best value at the moment. You get the bigger harddrive (500GB instead of 160GB) and more memory (3GB instead of 2GB) than in the cheapest set. If you are a Windows user and have no experience with Linux the Win7 licence will also come in handy. All that will set you back an additional £50 compared to the basic model(s) and you have to decide if it's worth it for you. I personally think it would be for me.1. Which Acer Revo model should I be going for? There is this 3700 http://www.ebuyer.com/product/236579 entry level Linux based model for £203 at one end of the spectrum or this 3700 http://www.ebuyer.com/product/236581 fully blown Win 7 model at the other end for £338 with this R3610 Win 7 model http://www.ebuyer.com/product/225756 in between at £254.
The dearest one is way over the top pricewise and I think there will be other alternatives in that price range. It doesn't offer any real benefit over the aforementioned cheaper R3610 apart from 4GB instead of 3GB RAM and lacks eSATA, so that doesn't seem to be as attractive.
I have next to no experience with Linux, but I presume it will work as good as Windows for all the things you mention. Many applications today can be had for multiple platforms, so even if you operate different systems compatibility should be of little concern. It will however take time to get used to the new interface, But if you just want to play movies and stuff like that Linux will probably be fine. So it depends on your preferences and maybe these systems provide a great opportunity to learn something new.2. Can I download, store and play movies, stream content and generally browse the web 'out of the box' or do I need to hack/mod the box in any serious way? (I have no clue or experience with Linux so maybe I just pay the extra and go for one of the the Win 7 versions?)
That's one of the reasons to go for the midrange model, as it has a much bigger hdd than the cheapest one and eSATA in contrast to the dearest.3. How can the Acer Revo be a serious Media Player if it only comes with a 160GB (Linux) or 500BG (Win 7) Hard Drive? Would I not have to add a 2TB Slave drive onto it via USB in order for it to really function as a Media Player and if so should I be going the eSata direction (therefore R3610) or is USB the best way to go?
I don't know anything about third party software for this purpose, but the £254-Revo 3610 comes with wireless keyboard and mouse (don't know about the dearer one, but the cheapest doesn't). Although these generally seem to be regarded as being of low quality they will probably do the job.4. If the machine is tucked away behind my HD Plasma whats the best way to control it in Media Centre mode? I have an Android phone and have used Gmote to control my Laptop for playing movies so I guess there are similar applications which would let me control XBMC or similar on the Revo?
Both the newer and the older models have an optical S/PDIF port. So yes, you should be able to connect it to your amp.5. Can I run the Revo through my Onkyo amp in order to get the full benefit from my Jamo surround sound system or does it need to be connected directly to my TV?
Sorry, I have no experiences with any of those. Actually I don't even have a tv.6. Where do solutions like the Boxee Box, Mede8er and PLAYON!HD fit into the equation? Are they somewhere in between the plane Jane Iomega Media Player and the Acer HTPC solution?
As I said before, for me too one single device that can do as much as possible is the way to go. And the Revo (old or new) seems to be perfect for that purpose. I am really looking forward to it, it should arrive later this week and then I may be able to provide some real experiences as opposed to passing on other peoples reviewsI know I'm seriously confused.com here so really would appreciate some advice. At the moment I'm storing and playing video content via HDMI output from my Laptop through my Onkyo Amp to my Plasma TV and Jamo surround sound systems so I know I need to find a dedicated solution and when better to dive in than the month of January when I'll have loads of evenings to set it up and play around with it?
P.S. And again one of the cheap Revos to be had.0 -
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On the basis that other people should be able to use it when your Android isn't around, you might as well pick up a separate cheapo remote control. I just ordered this from Dealextreme. They have other models, with joystick-type buttons for cursor movement, but I preferred the simple layout of this one.4. If the machine is tucked away behind my HD Plasma whats the best way to control it in Media Centre mode?
So pleased I got in there in time for the £179.99 deal.
P.S. Little foretaste for those waiting on their delivery...:D
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don't touch the 85mbps ones, they're shoite.correct
pending your internal electricity network isnt in bits, you should be able to stream flawlessy
id go with a 200mbps homeplug over the 80mbps
things to consider with powerline ethernet adapters are:- are you on the same electrical circuit (i.e. both sockets on the same fuse in the fusebox if it trips out)? if not, you'll take a substantial speed hit crossing to a different circuit (i.e. downstairs to upstairs which are usually fused separately).
- are you in a cheap crappy house (i.e. any mass produced house from the last 10 years or so?) that is likely to have cheap internal wiring, or a really old house with old rickety wiring on it's last legs? if so, you'll take a speed hit there too.
- do you use a lot of CFL (energy saver) bulbs in the house, particularly if they're cheap ones from IKEA etc? you'll take a bit there too.
speed aside though, they do work exactly as advertised, you just plug them into a spare socket and run an ethernet cable from each one to your networked devices and it's like running a straight cable between the two of them, no configuration needed or anything.
if you can cross of one or more of my caveats above, 200mbps homeplugs might just float your boat and they're pretty cheap on ebay now that the 500mbps and 1000mbps ones are out and driving down the price of the older kit.0 - are you on the same electrical circuit (i.e. both sockets on the same fuse in the fusebox if it trips out)? if not, you'll take a substantial speed hit crossing to a different circuit (i.e. downstairs to upstairs which are usually fused separately).
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