What controller should I buy?

Zascar

Good advice there. Yeah I looked into the 300 but decided against it. Pity I thought the 300 was going to be brilliant but they kinda missed the mark. I really think there is huge potential for an controller like the VCI-100 with a built in sound card - essential a better Xponent.

Grimey do you have two X1's so you can use 4 decks? How often do you actually use more than 2?

smight

Cheers,

That clears that up. Nice one.

was.deevey

@Zascar .. responce to the audio quality on the RMX

I just did Traktor update to 1.2 ... RMX sounds great like it got a brand new soundcard !

I had a few small reservations about the sound quality before but none now, Very clean and crisp... looks like 1.1 .was the culprit.

Also have a peek at the American Audio VMS4 which will be coming out soon, analogue mixer / soundcard / midi station .. you dont even need it plugged into a lappy to operate (keep your ipod handy).

Its half the price of vci300 .. with a multitude of additional features.

eeloe

i suppose it's different horses for different courses!

only advice i can give someone who is getting a controller soon, is search for the best possible second hand deal....ya never know ya might get a VCI100 or better for the same price as a new numark unit!

electrogrimey

Zascar wrote: »

Grimey do you have two X1's so you can use 4 decks? How often do you actually use more than 2?

Yep, I'm running 4 decks. I much prefer it over using 2, just makes everything easier. You can cue up your next two tracks while two are playing, do more with effects, like duplicating a deck and then messing with one, and it's great for throwing in samples and accapellas and stuff.

The Traktor screen takes a bit of getting used to, because you can't see the browser, or the advanced controls, but it's worth it. It definitely comes in handy a lot of the time.

Zascar

That sounds really cool actually - I'd live to properly have a go of it. I have played with 4 decks but I kinda found it annoying at times. I'm sure the X1 is way better suited being designed specifically for Traktor - the VCI is good but it's not perfect.

electrogrimey

Zascar wrote: »

That sounds really cool actually - I'd live to properly have a go of it. I have played with 4 decks but I kinda found it annoying at times. I'm sure the X1 is way better suited being designed specifically for Traktor - the VCI is good but it's not perfect.

Yeah the second Kontrol gets rid of a lot of the mode shifting and stuff, you can basically get away with only using what you see, without having to use different layers. If there's some kind of meet up soon I can bring the gear down and let people have a go.

Zascar

Yeah we should do something like that but its kinda difficult to organise...

eeloe

i find the 4 deck set up on the latest djtechtools mapping to be great!

I'd love an analogue mixer and two x1's tho, but i dunno could i give up my jog wheels!

electrogrimey

eeloe wrote: »

i find the 4 deck set up on the latest djtechtools mapping to be great!

I'd love an analogue mixer and two x1's tho, but i dunno could i give up my jog wheels!

That's exactly what I'm using. I find it's great for playing out in a club, so quick to set-up, and they fit into any DJ booth.

eeloe

if i went with two x1's, i'd have to get a firewire soundcard, as my macbook white only has two usb slots!

electrogrimey

eeloe wrote: »

if i went with two x1's, i'd have to get a firewire soundcard, as my macbook white only has two usb slots!

Also what I'm using! M-Audio Profire 610, 4 stereo outs and firewire.

eeloe

at the mo, my set up is pretty good for me, i'm happy with it.
vci 100
novation N i:o
Macbook White

If i went the x1 route...

Analog mixer:200
2x x1s:450
firewire card: few hundred...


i don't have them kinda beans at the mo!

I'd like to use your 4 decks set up all the same some time tho!

electrogrimey

eeloe wrote: »

at the mo, my set up is pretty good for me, i'm happy with it.
vci 100
novation N i:o
Macbook White

If i went the x1 route...

Analog mixer:200
2x x1s:450
firewire card: few hundred...


i don't have them kinda beans at the mo!

I'd like to use your 4 decks set up all the same some time tho!

I wouldn't mind having a go of a VCI either, the big arcade buttons on the SE and the fader FX stuff looks great, although I don't often do that stuff.

ED E

Hey lads, wondering if anyone has a fix for this.

I'm using a Novation Nocturn as a sampler. Well, just triggering right now but I can add a record "page" later if I like. Push to play(page2) is fine, each button being set to momentary.

Fire and forget(Page1) works ok, but it aint perfect. The problem is those lovely 'lil red backlights.
If I use "Normal" mode for the buttons they illuminate on first press and dont go out after that.
If I use "Toggle" they go out but only on every second touch(Deckadance is only seeing the Off Command).
If I use "Step" it just randomly works/doesnt work.
If I use momentary it triggers fine, but the lights only illuminate for the duration of the press, not great when you want to quickly kill a sample in time with the deck.

I was just wondering if anyone had an suggestions for fixes? I doubt there is anything I can do, its really the way Deckadance accepts MIDI it seems but I thought I'd put it out there.

TIA,
Lethal.

eeloe

electrogrimey wrote: »

I wouldn't mind having a go of a VCI either, the big arcade buttons on the SE and the fader FX stuff looks great, although I don't often do that stuff.

Yeah, I don't really use a lot of the fader fx, mainly cus my vci is running the 1.2 firmware, I should be rocking 1.3 in a few weeks tho so I'll report back then!

If ya want a go of the vci, I'll come up and play in the shaw for ya one night! Haha

milltown

eeloe wrote: »

Yeah, I don't really use a lot of the fader fx, mainly cus my vci is running the 1.2 firmware, I should be rocking 1.3 in a few weeks tho so I'll report back then!

If ya want a go of the vci, I'll come up and play in the shaw for ya one night! Haha

You have a PM Lee.

eeloe

I would just like to thank milltown!

A great chap, and a credit to boards.ie

Now rocking a 1.3 vci-100

Love it!

copeyhagen

anyone using a xone:3d?

could use some advice

Zascar

Schweeeet you got a Xone 3:d! Nice...

No idea how to use it but if you are using traktor I'm sure there are loads of tsi's out there.

Here is a really really old video of Deadmau5 playing on one when they were first out and before he got commercial...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjRKLHUqYAE

also this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5OWCgIMcPE

eeloe

copeyhagen wrote: »

anyone using a xone:3d?

could use some advice

Djtechtools.com

on the forums there, im nearly 100% sure i saw some midi mappings on there for traktor!

copeyhagen

yeh i rememebr that vid of the mau5 using it alright. pitty he turned ghey.

thing is a monster.

have to update the firmware on it tonight and im putting dual boot on my laptop and putting on xp, as 64 bit 7 hates the xone series.

i have a tsi i found on the a&h website, looks decent enough.

id enarly map it from scratch myself though, but would take aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaages

eeloe

loving the mau5 video....a nice "hand rolled cigarette" he's smoking there too !

copeyhagen

eeloe wrote: »

loving the mau5 video....a nice "hand rolled cigarette" he's smoking there too !

yeh he was decent enough back then.

think the only thing he smokes now is "hand rolled mickeys"

Gian-Pa

anyone have tried the American Audio VMS4?
i'm might wanna try it out if it's steady and works for all my needs

at the moment i've got a Faderfox Dx2, denon 4-channel mixer, pioneer efx-500 and Traktor Pro with Audio8

copeyhagen

doesnt look bad actually, how much? if its in and around the cost of the vestax id go vestax

Gian-Pa

copeyhagen wrote: »

doesnt look bad actually, how much? if its in and around the cost of the vestax id go vestax

in thomann its 393:
http://www.thomann.de/ie/american_audio_vms4.htm

but it has midi, soundcard and it's a mixer (not like the A&H DX)

copeyhagen

but you already have a mixer and a soundcard?

so just go for a a&h xone 1d or the native instruments x1?

Gian-Pa

copeyhagen wrote: »

but you already have a mixer and a soundcard?

so just go for a a&h xone 1d or the native instruments x1?

yes but if i sell my mixer and soundcard i can still have cash left after buying the VMS4.


BUT look at this new beauty!!
http://www.skratchworx.com/news3/comments.php?id=1522
Denon DN-MC6000 FULL MIXER / 4 DECK MIDI CONTROLLER

copeyhagen

Gian-Pa wrote: »

yes but if i sell my mixer and soundcard i can still have cash left after buying the VMS4.


BUT look at this new beauty!!
http://www.skratchworx.com/news3/comments.php?id=1522
Denon DN-MC6000 FULL MIXER / 4 DECK MIDI CONTROLLER

ah ok, didnt know you were planning on selling em.
that denon unit looks nice, but remember the native instruments new controller is to be unveiled today too.

you using traktor?