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O'Leary admits on TV3 that Ryanairs Yes campaign is all about getting Aer Lingus

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  • 28-09-2009 2:43pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭


    http://www.tv3.ie/shows.php?request=businessmatters&tv3_preview=&video=14169

    Interview starts 18 minutes in :

    To take an exact quote at 20minutes and 8 secs :

    "Look my campaign for a Yes vote...aah..one of the reasons that I am campaigning for a Yes vote is that our government is incompetent, yet I need to persude them to sell me Aer Lingus"

    Michael has really shot himself in the foot here. This is just more proof that business organisations only want a Yes out self-interest.;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,376 ✭✭✭ei.sdraob


    http://www.tv3.ie/shows.php?request=businessmatters&tv3_preview=&video=14169

    Interview starts 18 minutes in :

    To take an exact quote at 20minutes and 8 secs :

    "Look my campaign for a Yes vote...aah..one of the reasons that I am campaigning for a Yes vote is that our government is incompetent, yet I need to persude them to sell me Aer Lingus"

    Michael has really shot himself in the foot here. This is just more proof that business organisations only want a Yes out self-interest.;)

    we always knew were Mick stood

    now where does Declan Ganley and his military buddies stand?


    ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,065 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Well I'm sure that'll come as no surprise to anyone that O'Leary has his own agendas for campaigning for a Yes vote


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭meglome


    It's one of the very perplexing things about the No campaign. I understand that Ryanair want to make money, I understand that Intel want to make money. But how would potentially making the economy weaker by voting No help anyone.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,283 ✭✭✭✭Scofflaw


    http://www.tv3.ie/shows.php?request=businessmatters&tv3_preview=&video=14169

    Interview starts 18 minutes in :

    To take an exact quote at 20minutes and 8 secs :

    "Look my campaign for a Yes vote...aah..one of the reasons that I am campaigning for a Yes vote is that our government is incompetent, yet I need to persude them to sell me Aer Lingus"

    Michael has really shot himself in the foot here. This is just more proof that business organisations only want a Yes out self-interest.;)

    Actually, that is a completely false transcription. He is answering the question as to whether his campaign for a yes vote is intended to persuade the European Commission to let him buy Aer Lingus, and his answer is that it's the Irish government he has to persuade, even though they're incompetent, and that the idea he needs European approval "is bollocks".

    regards,
    Scofflaw


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    ei.sdraob wrote: »

    Don't be so naive.

    EVERYONE who wants a yes or no vote has a vested interest.

    You're only fooling yourself if you think our politicians want us to vote yes because it's good for our country.

    Declan Ganley is the same as everyone else.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 723 ✭✭✭destroyer


    :eek: business organisations only want a Yes out self-interest.:eek:

    Well can you believe it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,065 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    meglome wrote: »
    It's one of the very perplexing things about the No campaign. I understand that Ryanair want to make money, I understand that Intel want to make money. But how would potentially making the economy weaker by voting No help anyone.

    Potentially being the operative word. It's not a certainty that Ireland's place in Europe would be affected by a No vote, and yet the Yes side's greatest leverage is to convince people that the country is fcuked if we vote No


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    What was said:

    Yates: Do you think that your campaign for a yes vote will ensure commission approval?

    MOL: No, Look my campaign for a Yes vote...aah..one of the reasons that I am campaigning for a Yes vote is that our government is incompetent and yet I need to persude them to sell me Aer Lingus. The nonsense that I need European approval is just that, rubbish. Look, I'm campaigning for a yes vote because I think it's in the best interest of the Irish economy and the nearly 500,000 people who will be unemployed at the end of the year.


    You have taken the exact opposite meaning from the intended one. Well done


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    destroyer wrote: »
    :eek: business organisations only want a Yes out self-interest.:eek:

    Well can you believe it.

    And yet the people on the no side say a yes vote won't help the economy. Both statements cannot be true.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭meglome


    AARRRGH wrote: »
    Don't be so naive.

    EVERYONE who wants a yes or no vote has a vested interest.

    You're only fooling yourself if you think our politicians want us to vote yes because it's good for our country.

    Declan Ganley is the same as everyone else.

    I'm not sure that doing what's best for this country could be called a vested interest.

    People like Ganley on the other hand are very suspicious.
    Potentially being the operative word. It's not a certainty that Ireland's place in Europe would be affected by a No vote, and yet the Yes side's greatest leverage is to convince people that the country is fcuked if we vote No

    Well since we're basically bankrupt that potential will be very important.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,376 ✭✭✭ei.sdraob


    AARRRGH wrote: »
    Don't be so naive.

    EVERYONE who wants a yes or no vote has a vested interest.

    You're only fooling yourself if you think our politicians want us to vote yes because it's good for our country.

    Declan Ganley is the same as everyone else.

    except no one elected him

    and he cant take NO for an answer and lingers around like a bad smell

    :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,155 ✭✭✭PopeBuckfastXVI


    http://www.tv3.ie/shows.php?request=businessmatters&tv3_preview=&video=14169

    Interview starts 18 minutes in :

    To take an exact quote at 20minutes and 8 secs :

    "Look my campaign for a Yes vote...aah..one of the reasons that I am campaigning for a Yes vote is that our government is incompetent, yet I need to persude them to sell me Aer Lingus"

    Michael has really shot himself in the foot here. This is just more proof that business organisations only want a Yes out self-interest.;)

    Full Quote, if anyone's interested:

    Interviewer:
    Do you think your campaign for a yes vote will secure commission approval?
    MOL:
    No, I mean look my my campaign for a Yes vote...aah..one of the reasons that I am campaigning for a Yes vote is that our government is incompetent, yet I need to persuade them to sell me Aer Lingus, so the nonsense that I need European approval is just that; rubbish. Look, I'm campaigning for a yes vote because I think it's in the best interests of the Irish economy, and more importantly the nearly five hundred thousand people who'll be unemployed in this economy by the end of this year.


    The thread title could just as well be 'O'Leary admits on TV3 that Ryanairs Yes campaign is all getting the unemployed jobs'.

    Edit: Dammit Sam!


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    Edit: Dammit Sam!

    Bwahahahahahaha :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,155 ✭✭✭PopeBuckfastXVI


    meglome wrote: »
    It's one of the very perplexing things about the No campaign. I understand that Ryanair want to make money, I understand that Intel want to make money. But how would potentially making the economy weaker by voting No help anyone.

    Don't you understand? Decreasing profits for big business is good for their workers?

    Sheesh, I would have thought that was obvious...


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭tonycascarino


    Sam Vimes wrote: »
    What was said:


    Look, I'm campaigning for a yes vote because I think it's in the best interest of the Irish economy and the nearly 500,000 people who will be unemployed at the end of the year.


    You have taken the exact opposite meaning from the intended one. Well done

    Anyone with half a brain can see that O'Leary doesn't give a toss about workers. It's all mé féin

    with him. The only thing that concerns O'Leary is buying Aer Lingus.;)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 10,076 Mod ✭✭✭✭marco_polo


    Sam Vimes wrote: »
    What was said:

    Yates: Do you think that your campaign for a yes vote will ensure commission approval?

    MOL: No, Look my campaign for a Yes vote...aah..one of the reasons that I am campaigning for a Yes vote is that our government is incompetent and yet I need to persude them to sell me Aer Lingus. The nonsense that I need European approval is just that, rubbish. Look, I'm campaigning for a yes vote because I think it's in the best interest of the Irish economy and the nearly 500,000 people who will be unemployed at the end of the year.


    You have taken the exact opposite meaning from the intended one. Well done

    There must a buggy version of windows floating around, where the copy and paste function mysteriously truncates critical additional lines of information from the end of quotations.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,155 ✭✭✭PopeBuckfastXVI


    Sam Vimes wrote: »
    Bwahahahahahaha :D

    I still think my usage of a semi-colon before the word 'rubbish' is better than your comma though...

    :p


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    Anyone with half a brain can see that O'Leary doesn't give a toss about workers. It's all mé féin

    with him. The only thing that concerns O'Leary is buying Aer Lingus.;)

    That may be, but he did not in fact "admit on TV3 that Ryanairs Yes campaign is all about getting Aer Lingus ". In reality he said the exact opposite. So would you like to retract your statement?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 10,076 Mod ✭✭✭✭marco_polo


    Anyone with half a brain can see that O'Leary doesn't give a toss about workers. It's all mé féin

    with him. The only thing that concerns O'Leary is buying Aer Lingus.;)

    Could say the exact same thing about Mr Gantley. I certainly haven't heard him harping on about workers rights thus far. Lisbon is far too socialist for his liking.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭tonycascarino


    It's also interesting that there's an article in the Irish Times today whereby a large

    estate in O'Leary's hometown of Mullingar is visited. Only 1 person in the whole estate is

    going to vote Yes. Looks like even his own hometown people don't share his views on

    Lisbon either.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    It's also interesting that there's an article in the Irish Times today whereby a large

    estate in O'Leary's hometown of Mullingar is visited. Only 1 person in the whole estate is

    going to vote Yes. Looks like even his own hometown people don't share his views on

    Lisbon either.

    He did not in fact "admit on TV3 that Ryanairs Yes campaign is all about getting Aer Lingus ". In reality he said the exact opposite. So would you like to retract your statement?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,155 ✭✭✭PopeBuckfastXVI


    It's also interesting that there's an article in the Irish Times today whereby a large

    estate in O'Leary's hometown of Mullingar is visited. Only 1 person in the whole estate is

    going to vote Yes. Looks like even his own hometown people don't share his views on

    Lisbon either.

    Does he live in that estate? One would imagine that sampling a particular estate would present a very slim slice of socio-economic diversity, leading to likely consensus in the findings, of course...


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭tonycascarino


    Sam Vimes wrote: »
    He did not in fact "admit on TV3 that Ryanairs Yes campaign is all about getting Aer Lingus ". In reality he said the exact opposite. So would you like to retract your statement?

    "Look my campaign for a Yes vote...aah..one of the reasons that I am campaigning for a Yes vote is that our government is incompetent, yet I need to persuade them to sell me Aer Lingus"

    So yes he did admit it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭meglome


    Don't you understand? Decreasing profits for big business is good for their workers?

    Sheesh, I would have thought that was obvious...

    Really some people have no idea who actually generates the wealth in an economy and who pays most of the taxes. It's just easier to rant on about how 'the elites' want to enslave us all.
    "Look my campaign for a Yes vote...aah..one of the reasons that I am campaigning for a Yes vote is that our government is incompetent, yet I need to persuade them to sell me Aer Lingus"

    So yes he did admit it.

    The same tactic as every single conspiracy theory site. Selectively quote someone to change the context to suit whatever nonsense they're pushing.

    Are you really going to take a part of what he said, pretend he meant the opposite and then assume we're idiots?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,155 ✭✭✭PopeBuckfastXVI


    "Look my campaign for a Yes vote...aah..one of the reasons that I am campaigning for a Yes vote is that our government is incompetent, yet I need to persuade them to sell me Aer Lingus"

    So yes he did admit it.
    Look my campaign for a Yes vote...aah..one of the reasons that I am campaigning for a Yes vote is that our government is incompetent

    I'm campaigning for a 'yes' vote because our government is incompetent too.

    Hang on... does that mean I get Aer Lingus??


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 10,076 Mod ✭✭✭✭marco_polo


    "Look my campaign for a Yes vote...aah..one of the reasons that I am campaigning for a Yes vote is that our government is incompetent, yet I need to persuade them to sell me Aer Lingus"

    So yes he did admit it.

    I remember the days when you used to just silently thank all the posts that were bare faced lies, now you are making them up yourself I see. And then repeating them over and over again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    meglome wrote: »
    I'm not sure that doing what's best for this country could be called a vested interest.

    No one wants us to vote yes because it's best for the country.

    Please don't tell me you think our politicians suddenly have the country's best interests at heart.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭meglome


    AARRRGH wrote: »
    No one wants us to vote yes because it's best for the country.

    Please don't tell me you think our politicians suddenly have the country's best interests at heart.

    Ah right it must be just me then.

    And as for our politicians I'm not assuming anything, I'm making up my own mind based on what I believe is best.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    "Look my campaign for a Yes vote...aah..one of the reasons that I am campaigning for a Yes vote is that our government is incompetent, yet I need to persuade them to sell me Aer Lingus"

    So yes he did admit it.

    Are you serious?

    "The nonsense that I need European approval is just that, rubbish. Look, I'm campaigning for a yes vote because I think it's in the best interests of the Irish economy and the nearly 500,000 people who will be unemployed at the end of the year."

    I can selectively quote too, except my quote gives the actual meaning of what was said where yours gives a deliberately false meaning. I'd love to say this is a new low for the no campaign but that would unfortunately not be true :(


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 15,228 Mod ✭✭✭✭FutureGuy


    If I were to vote yes, it would not because of the great campaign that the Yes side were runing, but because of the pile of sh!te that the no vote has been churning out on an almost daily basis. It's bloody pathetic.

    Going to work, all I see are pathetic attempts at scaremongering (minimum wage 1.85?) plastered all over the place.

    OP, post the entire quote or don't post at all.


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