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Why did people jump from the world trade towers?

  • 18-09-2009 6:17pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 357 ✭✭


    Sorry if this is a little insensitive, but its something I've always wondered.
    Why did people jump out the windows of the world trade centres after they had been hit?

    They surely knew they couldnt survive such a drop.
    Was it because they didn't want to be burned to death? Was it the panic and they just couldn't handle it?

    It must take some courage to actually jump and face your death like that. I guess we could never know what was going through the minds of those people at the time. Its just something I've always wondered about.....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭metaoblivia


    I think it's fair to say that the majority - if not all of them - knew they wouldn't survive the jump. They probably didn't want to burn or suffocate to death and figured that jumping would be a quicker, less painful way to go.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭caseyann


    Picture standing in a volcano, There is the answer :(

    Blind panic and shock also.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    for the lulz


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    As an alternative to getting burnt to death or suffocating its probably what I would have done. I am a bit of a chicken with extreme pain.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Hazys


    Instant splat >>>>> Burned alive for however long it takes


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭PhysiologyRocks


    CDfm wrote: »
    As an alternative to getting burnt to death or suffocating its probably what I would have done. I am a bit of a chicken.

    Nothing chicken about that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Deep toxic black smoke, unbearable heat, flames, scared shítless and full of adrenaline - probably just said "Feck it" - dived out, and screamed their lungs out until it was lights out.

    I would have probably done the same.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,390 ✭✭✭The Big Red Button


    CDfm wrote: »
    As an alternative to getting burnt to death or suffocating its probably what I would have done. I am a bit of a chicken with extreme pain.

    I'd have probably been too chicken to do it, no matter how certain I was that I'd die either way. I'm frickin terrified of heights!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    Yeah I always thought it was so they wouldn't have to suffer being burned.
    Though getting crushed was probably quicker (I realise this sounds insensitive, it's not meant to, it's just an observation)

    If it was me, I don't know what I'd do. I don't think I'd have the guts to jump. But being burned... horrible :/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭abouttobebanned


    Worst situation imaginable.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,158 ✭✭✭donmeister


    Its Friday fuckin evening, can someone make a fun thread in AH rather than 9/11/recession/scumbags


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,390 ✭✭✭The Big Red Button


    brummytom wrote: »
    Yeah I always thought it was so they wouldn't have to suffer being burned.
    Though getting crushed was probably quicker (I realise this sounds insensitive, it's not meant to, it's just an observation)

    If it was me, I don't know what I'd do. I don't think I'd have the guts to jump. But being burned... horrible :/

    You'd probably suffocate before being burned.

    What a f*cked up situation for anyone to be in. :( It's hard for any of us to say for certain what we'd have done!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 415 ✭✭shampoosuicide


    it's pretty obvious.

    fire hurts


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    It's hard for any of us to say for certain what we'd have done!
    Drinks cabinet;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,755 ✭✭✭Klingon Hamlet


    Some didn't die straight away. I remember seeing a man jump and bounce of the walls as he fell, tore apart slowly, it still haunts me. Never was shown again, online or on TV. But I'll never forget.

    God love all those poor people. To face such a hellish choice: burn to death, or fall to your death. Jesus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,120 ✭✭✭Tails142


    Maybe they had read Angels and Demons, stapled a few pages together and thought they'd be ok.

    Might've worked if the US used A4 size instead of Letter....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 357 ✭✭K-Ren


    A Bon Jovi convention was on in the building at the time of the attacks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,171 ✭✭✭af_thefragile


    They were hoping for Superman/Spiderman/Neo to come and save them!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    The heat, smoke and pure fear , reasons people have mentioned in the thread but also I imagine, quite a few would have being dead with heart attack / shock before they hit the ground


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭magicianz


    Whats up with the serious answers on AH O.o

    People are getting so lazy now that they cant be bothered using the lift.....'hey look an open window!'

    I think we should make parachutes mandatory in all high rise building :pac:


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Falling from such a height by the way, there is a chance you will be dead before you even hit the ground.
    Its something to do with the speed your falling at, unable to catch your breath or the surrounding air, etc.
    Most of us have at some stage stuck our heads out a moving car window. remember how hard it is to breath when doing that at high speed?

    I hope I never have to make that ultimate decision for myself.
    Humans by their nature are also fighters. Even in that they fight for there might be a glimmer of hope of rescue or change in survival chances.
    When that hope is gone, all that is left is the decision about how you wish to go!

    ...and sadly, on that day, that is what many faced.
    May they rest in peace.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    I blame R Kelly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 759 ✭✭✭mrgaa1


    come on you mean you don't know - there were actually very few who jumped - they were the ones who set off the explosions or made sure the explosions were ready to go once the go ahead was given to drop both buildings. go to www.jimcorr.com and look at the 9/11 video - its 1.5hrs long but makes a lot of sense


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭mink_man


    for the craic!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Hazys


    Biggins wrote: »
    Falling from such a height by the way, there is a chance you will be dead before you even hit the ground.
    Its something to do with the speed your falling at, unable to catch your breath or the surrounding air, etc.
    Most of us have at some stage stuck our heads out a moving car window. remember how hard it is to breath when doing that at high speed?

    I hope I never have to make that ultimate decision for myself.
    Humans by their nature are also fighters. Even in that they fight for there might be a glimmer of hope of rescue or change in survival chances.
    When that hope is gone, all that is left is the decision about how you wish to go!

    ...and sadly, on that day, that is what many faced.
    May they rest in peace.

    I doubt you'd die from not being able to breath bcos when i did a skydive we were free falling for 60 secs, 14000 feet in the air where there is less dense air. I presume you can free fall for much longer without any problems. Id be suprised if the fall from the top of the WTC to the bottom is longer than 60 secs.

    But still not a situation id like to be in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭NickNolte


    Jesus. Can you imagine what was going through those poor peoples' minds? I know this is After Hours and all but... joking aside... what a s**ty, s**ty way to go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,171 ✭✭✭af_thefragile


    Guess atleast they get to experience free fall before they die.
    Something that's on many people "100 things to do before you die" list...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    It's probably natural to just blindly escape smoke or flames. I doubt people made a rational decision to just jump.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,081 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Gravity has alot to answer for


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Hazys wrote: »
    I doubt you'd die from not being able to breath bcos when i did a skydive we were free falling for 60 secs, 14000 feet in the air where there is less dense air. I presume you can free fall for much longer without any problems. Id be suprised if the fall from the top of the WTC to the bottom is longer than 60 secs.

    But still not a situation id like to be in.

    Also possibly true.
    I remember some documentary on a few years back and some medical examiners stating that in some cases, the breathing issue above could have also been the situation in the case of their passing before they even came in contact with the ground.

    And I agree too, definitely not a situation I'd like to be in.
    So far I have been lucky and blessed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Why did people jump from the world trade towers?

    To get to the other side.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭zack01


    We had a friend who worked for cantor fitzgerald in the north tower, she along with all their staff died that day, think the figure was 654, apparently most of them died instantly when the plane hit.
    None of her remains were ever found.
    It must have been hell on earth to make people jump that day.
    May they rest in peace:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    Panic and fear.

    They might of thought they might be able to somehow climb down and fell as some people did. Some people would of jumped out to avoid being burned alive and some people were just so scared they just ran and jumped. Strange to think that not one of those who perished knew what the hell was happening, all they know is a plane hit their building and they died.

    Strange and terrible way to die.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭BornToKill


    Gravity has alot to answer for

    It's time for the long anticipated 'War on Gravity'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,892 ✭✭✭Kersh


    Very moving documentary here on the jumpers, and 1 man's quest to name one of them.

    Well worth watching,

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXnA9FjvLSU&feature=related


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,547 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    The people who jumped were the real extreme sports junkies, can you imagine.......its your last day on the planet, you know your time is near, you look to your buddy........Dude, a window..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,167 ✭✭✭Notorious


    mrgaa1 wrote: »
    come on you mean you don't know - there were actually very few who jumped - they were the ones who set off the explosions or made sure the explosions were ready to go once the go ahead was given to drop both buildings. go to www.jimcorr.com and look at the 9/11 video - its 1.5hrs long but makes a lot of sense

    I hope you're ripping the piss...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 415 ✭✭shampoosuicide


    'Strange to think that not one of those who perished knew what the hell was happening, all they know is a plane hit their building and they died.'

    you know, i'm not being sarcastic - i never even considered that before...how ****ed up is that...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    dlofnep wrote: »
    Deep toxic black smoke, unbearable heat, flames, scared shítless and full of adrenaline
    Thought comes into their head: I see light! A way out, a way out, a waaaaaaayyyyyyy ooooouuuuutttt.

    Fire plus lack of oxygen to the head can make people do funny things.

    That, and some of them may have always wanted to skydive.

    IMO, , if you saw them continuing to run, they probably think that they are still running on ground. If you saw people with their arms out-stretched, they're skydiving.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    mrgaa1 wrote: »
    come on you mean you don't know - there were actually very few who jumped - they were the ones who set off the explosions or made sure the explosions were ready to go once the go ahead was given to drop both buildings. go to www.jimcorr.com and look at the 9/11 video - its 1.5hrs long but makes a lot of sense

    lol


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,724 ✭✭✭✭CianRyan


    They forgot their bungee cords that day?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    'Strange to think that not one of those who perished knew what the hell was happening, all they know is a plane hit their building and they died.'

    you know, i'm not being sarcastic - i never even considered that before...how ****ed up is that...
    Yet the very thought that would have being going through their heads besides getting out of the buildings , would have being '' what the F has happened ? what's going on ? Many will have being to confused and in shock to even have time to think about anything but their familys ...god love them all

    RIP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭Amalgam


    I always wondered why any amount, even a fraction of people weren't helped off by helicopters.

    I visited the tower with the Restaurant and viewing platform.. and you could get access to the roof.

    Ironically, we had to make our way to the lifts around a huge clump of temporary air conditioning equipment, due to the effects of the car park bombing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,555 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    invisible bungee


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32 blipp


    I read an excellent book about it a few years ago - excellent in terms of being well-written and researched not in terms of entertainment value.

    I remember that the book either suggested or knew for a fact (useless aren't I - but it was a few years ago) that the jumping wasn't jumping at all. People were clambering for the windows for air and people were being pushed out by the crowds. Which is worse than jumping really. Either way, those pictures will stay with me for many years yet. RIP to them all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    Amalgam wrote: »
    I always wondered why any amount, even a fraction of people weren't helped off by helicopters.

    I visited the tower with the Restaurant and viewing platform.. and you could get access to the roof.

    Ironically, we had to make our way to the lifts around a huge clump of temporary air conditioning equipment, due to the effects of the car park bombing.

    can't imagine it'd be two safe to fly near never mind land on two towering infernos.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 415 ✭✭shampoosuicide


    can't imagine it'd be two safe to fly near never mind land on two towering infernos.

    no safer than sending firemen up staircases to certain death?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭Pretty_Pistol


    Amalgam wrote: »
    I always wondered why any amount, even a fraction of people weren't helped off by helicopters.

    I visited the tower with the Restaurant and viewing platform.. and you could get access to the roof.

    Ironically, we had to make our way to the lifts around a huge clump of temporary air conditioning equipment, due to the effects of the car park bombing.

    Read somewhere there was too much smoke to get helicopters to land. And imagine all the people trying to even scramble to get onto one if there was one!

    What a horrible way to die.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,456 ✭✭✭✭ibarelycare


    It's all about control. Choosing to die was the last piece of control these people had in their lives. Take your death into your own hands or choose to die a horrific death at the hands of others.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Because they were playing Westside over the intercom.


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