Keith Barry Grandfather Brutally attacked..

vibez

This is the ireland we live in today when SCUM BAGS can get away with Kicking in an old age pensioners door beat him to within an inch of his life.


Then Dermot Ahern denies people the right to defend their own home ?

Should this not be a right? Cause at the moment if someone kicks in my door attacks me and my family and i get a gun a shoot him i will end up in a cell ?

:mad:

Il take my chances with the court so.....

gerry28

Who is keith barry??

Kiera

Link?

Sharpshooter

Any link OP?

DamoDLK

vibez wrote: »

Then Dermot Ahern denies people the right to defend their own home ?

Should this not be a right? Cause at the moment if someone kicks in my door attacks me and my family and i get a gun a shoot him i will end up in a cell......

I think that you can defend your home, but pretty sure your defense must be proportionate to the attack..

TheZohanS

As it stands we have to right to defend ourselves by means of force, you'll only end up behind bars if the force you use in defending yourself is excessive.

If someone breaks into your home and threatens you with a weapon you are well within your rights to use whatever force necessary to protect yourself.

Make sure you don't shoot anyone in the back.

Wreck

TheZohan wrote: »

Make sure you don't shoot anyone in the back.

Unless the person you shoot is a traveller, then you'll get away with it.

arybvtcw0eolkf

I can see it as clear as day .... The rightous PC brigade polishing their high horse saddles and getting ready for a good gallop through this thread..

/Duck head.

Speaking personally, I've taught my son since he was ten that if I'm away and there's an intruder he's to make sure his mum and sister are in a safe place - then load my gun and shoot the fvcker.

Once I've fired a warning shot at intruder's in my back yard & recently my dogs almost got to another two.

I honestly do feel that my home is my castle and my first line of defence is direct action, second is call the police/ambulance to take the carcass away.

Stinking scumbag bastards.

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bonzos

I think you will find that the aminals who did this are "entitled" to enter your house without being touched under irish law..the excuses like "i have a puncture was looking for a jack boss" gives them the cover they need to claim innocence.most of these scum are already screwing the state for social welfare,driving around in 09 jeeps,cars and van despite no other income.if you do lay a finger on them they will them get free legal aid from the state to screw you further...what a joke of a country!the goverment have more interest in chasing people doing nixers and grinds to try and make ends meet that persuing these wealthy scum!

bonzos

Wreck wrote: »

Unless the person you shoot is a traveller, then you'll get away with it.

who said anything about travellers????give the thread a chance to develop before you start defending criminals:rolleyes:

TheZohanS

Wreck wrote: »

Unless the person you shoot is a traveller, then you'll get away with it.

That's irrelevant, what is relevant is the fact that the intruder had previous criminal convictions.

Nally was 100% right and this was backed up by both judge and jury.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

I have never read so much bull**** and misinformation in ten posts.

EDIT (First ten)

Kiera

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

I have never read so much bull**** and misinformation in ten posts.

EDIT (First ten)

I'd include 11 in that too

Wreck

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

I have never read so much bull**** and misinformation in ten posts.

EDIT (First ten)

Post 12 isn't exactly stellar either.

vibez

Keith Barry is the Irish Magician.... Its not because its his GF but more because its a ruthless act and the SCUM doing this do not deserve to live.

I never motioned travellers because thats just ridiculous these filt come from all walks of life and even travllers have the right to defend their homes.

I heard this story on way to work Gerry Ryan was reviewing the papers and Keith Barry called in.

Another point is if someone does violate your home and is under the influence of drink or drugs at best they get 2 -3 years suspended sentence. Madness.

Keith made a good point should be a mandatory sentence for this of 3 years no questions asked.

But when it comes to 2 men kicking in the home of a pensioner then shooting them is only way forward.

Dragan

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

I have never read so much bull**** and misinformation in ten posts.

EDIT (First ten)

So, maybe post alternative opinion instead of sitting there touching yourself?

vibez

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

I have never read so much bull**** and misinformation in ten posts.

EDIT (First ten)

Your intitled to your opinion....... so explain

cable842

arent we meant to be talkin about keith barry

mike65

I presume the OP is refering to http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0917/waterford.html

hblock21

Lara Substantial Developer wrote: »

Speaking personally, I've taught my son since he was ten that if I'm away and there's an intruder he's to make sure his mum and sister are in a safe place - then load my gun and shoot the fvcker.

Wow, your a great father. I'm shocked at what your teaching your children.

Would telling him to RUN not be a better thing.

Think about it, if your TEN year old son shot someone and they died....how ****ed up would his head be in 10 years time you think?

Euro_Kraut

Lara Substantial Developer wrote: »

Speaking personally, I've taught my son since he was ten that if I'm away and there's an intruder he's to make sure his mum and sister are in a safe place - then load my gun and shoot the fvcker.

How is your son getting access to a gun?

gerry28

There should be long jail sentences for voilating or attacking someone in their own home.

Your home is somewhere you should feel safe.

If the law is not able to deal adequately with these scumbags then others should.

vibez

gerry28 wrote: »

There should be long jail sentences for voilating or attacking someone in their own home.

Your home is somewhere you should feel safe.

If the law is not able to deal adequately with these scumbags then others should.

totally second that

Cianos

Lara Substantial Developer wrote: »

I can see it as clear as day .... The rightous PC brigade polishing their high horse saddles and getting ready for a good gallop through this thread..

/Duck head.

Speaking personally, I've taught my son since he was ten that if I'm away and there's an intruder he's to make sure his mum and sister are in a safe place - then load my gun and shoot the fvcker.

Once I've fired a warning shot at intruder's in my back yard & recently my dogs almost got to another two.

I honestly do feel that my home is my castle and my first line of defence is direct action, second is call the police/ambulance to take the carcass away.

Stinking scumbag bastards.

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I hate this sort of tripe..."the righteous PC brigade". Why are you expecting to be disagreed with, and by whom? Just because someone may disagree with one issue doesn't mean they're going to disagree with another.

kmick

Maybe Keith could use his magic to punish those trouble makers.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Dragan wrote: »

So, maybe post alternative opinion instead of sitting there touching yourself?

Alternative opinion to what?? I still have no reason to believe the OP posts actually happened.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Cianos wrote: »

I hate this sort of tripe..."the righteous PC brigade". Why are you expecting to be disagreed with, and by whom? Just because someone may disagree with one issue doesn't mean they're going to disagree with another.

Cian, sometimes it's just less embarrassing to you the phrase "righteos PC brigade" or "bleeding-heart liberals" than admit that they have no clue what they are talking about. Now give the guv'ner a "Hurrumph!".

mikom

Whilst we are on the subject of crime and magic
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What's the difference between a policeman’s truncheon and a magicians wand?

One is used for cunning stunts...

the_syco

hblock21 wrote: »

Think about it, if your TEN year old son shot someone and they died....how ****ed up would his head be in 10 years time you think?

Probably less f**ked up than seeing his sisters and mother raped (and possibly him) and not being able to do anything about it?

vibez

WTF ?

yop

I see FF have vetod FG bill in the Dail to give the home owner greater power in protecting their homes. What a shower of dic*S

TheZohan

TheZohan wrote: »

That's irrelevant, what is relevant is the fact that the intruder had previous criminal convictions.

Nally was 100% right and this was backed up by both judge and jury.

The only mistake he made was not shooting the second lad as well, who has gone on to commit multiple crimes since.

If someone attacks your home you should be able to stop them at any cost imo.

Mr Benevolent

No link in three pages? Didn't happen lads. Score another one for mass hysteria.

TheZohanS

Confab wrote: »

No link in three pages? Didn't happen lads. Score another one for mass hysteria.

Source

Gardaí in Waterford are investigating the circumstances surrounding a burglary in which an elderly man was injured in the city last night.
A man in his early 80s received facial injuries during the incident and was taken to Waterford Regional Hospital.
It is understood that he is in a critical condition.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Finally. A link. THANK you.

Now. Where does Keith Barry fit into this? Was he working for the DHARMA initiative?

TheZohanS

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Finally. A link. THANK you.

Now. Where does Keith Barry fit into this? Was he working for the DHARMA initiative?

If you read Mikes post (post No.19) you would have found the exact same link.

mike65

me non-person

Red Hand

Lara Substantial Developer wrote: »

I can see it as clear as day .... The rightous PC brigade polishing their high horse saddles and getting ready for a good gallop through this thread..

/Duck head.

Speaking personally, I've taught my son since he was ten that if I'm away and there's an intruder he's to make sure his mum and sister are in a safe place - then load my gun and shoot the fvcker.

Once I've fired a warning shot at intruder's in my back yard & recently my dogs almost got to another two.

I honestly do feel that my home is my castle and my first line of defence is direct action, second is call the police/ambulance to take the carcass away.

Stinking scumbag bastards.

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Getting your wife to fire a gun would make more sense, no? That's assuming your post is serious.:pac:

A7X

You'd think Keith would have forseen this.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Me not read all 38 posts. 'pologies. But link should have been in OP!

yop

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Me not read all 38 posts. 'pologies. But link should have been in OP!

Good, now post on the topic or else go somewhere else to push up your post count. These pointless posts of your are getting irritating. :rolleyes:

TechFreak

I got some Bear Pepper Spray in the States the last time.God help the scumbag who tries to get into my house.

No mercy for them at all.I dont know how FF didnt support the FG motion.Those feckin Green's probably want us just to "hug it out" with the robbers and lobbied FF.

I kinda like this justice though...

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/09/15/samurai.sword.killing/index.html

Kiera

yop wrote: »

Good, now post on the topic or else go somewhere else to push up your post count. These pointless posts of your are getting irritating. :rolleyes:

So is your backseat modding!

MagicMarker

Lara Substantial Developer wrote: »

I can see it as clear as day .... The rightous PC brigade polishing their high horse saddles and getting ready for a good gallop through this thread..

/Duck head.

Speaking personally, I've taught my son since he was ten that if I'm away and there's an intruder he's to make sure his mum and sister are in a safe place - then load my gun and shoot the fvcker.

Once I've fired a warning shot at intruder's in my back yard & recently my dogs almost got to another two.

I honestly do feel that my home is my castle and my first line of defence is direct action, second is call the police/ambulance to take the carcass away.

Stinking scumbag bastards.

.

Are you taking the piss or are you really the dumbest father in the word?*

Would it not make more sense for your ADULT WIFE to make sure your CHILDREN are okay? Also, 10 year old with access to a gun, bra-fúcking-vo.

*outside of America.

Wibbs

Yes I would defend my home and those in it. To the point of killing someone if circumstances required? Yes I have little doubt about that. If I could get away from the situation and retreat then fine, but I suspect the blood would be up(based on past experiences) and that option wouldn't trouble me.

The problem outside ones personal morals on this is where a situation like this arises is could you do it? If not and you froze and a weapon is involved then that weapon may be turned against you. I would say most people without training or an inbuilt aggressive reaction would freeze. Like with disasters like plane crashes and the like, most freeze. Survivor types(or trained types) take action but they're in the minority.

flanzer

Jeremiah 16:1 wrote: »

Getting your wife to fire a gun would make more sense, no? That's assuming your post is serious.:pac:

With the laws being so fcuked, his wife would probably do jail time. They're not goona lock away his 10 year old.

I hear where you're coming from Makikomi, I'm off to teach my 1 year old how to load up.

vibez

flanzer wrote: »

With the laws being so fcuked, his wife would probably do jail time. They're not goona lock away his 10 year old.

I hear where you're coming from Makikomi, I'm off to teach my 1 year old how to load up.

LMFAO !

ah man, smart arse but funny !

flanzer

To add to this, I laughed a number of months back when some burglers from Darndale tried it on with a Chinese family in a neighbouring estate to mine and killed the scumbag stone dead! Seemingly they tried to take the takings from the family's restaurant and one of the scumbags got the ultimate comeuppance. Justice was truly served

EDIT: Sorry, I thought he died. Here's the story. Heros .... http://www.independent.ie/national-news/hero-father-defends-family-as-knifewielding-thugs-threaten-to-kill-his-twoweekold-son-1301203.html

A brave father who fought off would-be burglars who threatened to kill his children said yesterday that he had "no choice" but to stab one of the thieves in order to save his family.

Phuong Nguyen, Irish-born but of Vietnamese origin, who lives in Clare Hall in north Dublin, told the Irish Independent how he was woken before 4 yesterday morning, when one of the burglars hit him with a hammer.

The robber and his accomplice had already held Mr Nguyen's partner, Jenny O'Leary, and their two-week-old boy, Jake, hostage downstairs for an hour, as they attempted to clear the house of the family's belongings.

Also in the house at the time were seven-year-old Paige, 13-year-old Craig and two-year-old Josh, who was held at knife point.

"I got a whack with a hammer and I woke up, and there were two blokes, all in black, with masks on them," Mr Nguyen said.

"I could just see their eyes. One had a hammer and one had Jenny by her dressing gown, with a knife to her throat.

"They took the baby off her. He said to me: 'I know you have a baby downstairs, he's dead if you don't open the safe'.

"He was shouting at me, telling me to open the safe. I got out of the bed and the guy with the knife let Jenny go and went over to my two-year-old son and started saying: 'Open the safe or I'm going to kill your son -- I'm going to stab him'.

"The other guy with the hammer pointed it towards Jake and said: 'I'm going to kill him with the hammer if you don't open the safe'."

Bravely

But Mr Nguyen decided to fight back and bravely chased the armed thugs from his house -- even as they beat him with a hammer.

"I opened the safe and showed them the money and kind of threw it at them. It went everywhere and they started diving on it. And I saw Jenny and the two kids behind them. So I pounced and tried to take the hammer off him."

The two thieves fought back, with one swinging his sharp knife as he ran downstairs.

Ms O'Leary held her hands up to protect herself from being stabbed but suffered serious cuts when she tried to grab the knife. She also suffered a cut to her shoulder.

"The top of it just pricked me and it just went through," she said.

"When I grabbed the knife, all I could see was their eyes. They were definitely high on something. Their pupils were so small.

"They threatened to hurt the baby if I screamed. They knew they had me. They had cleared out downstairs and planned to go upstairs next. They brought me upstairs before they went in to Phuong to suss it out, I suppose. I think they were planning what to do next."

By this time, Mr Nguyen's sister, Tia, had arrived from her house next door, after hearing the noise. The knife-wielding burglar also tried to stab her.

But Mr Nguyen continued to grapple with the thug.

"We were wrestling and fighting in the kitchen," Mr Nguyen explained. "He was trying to get away and I grabbed him. "He was trying to get out the back gate. I just grabbed him and threw him through the back door of my sister's house. The two of us were killing each other. He whacked me with the hammer about 10 or 20 times.

"I got a kitchen knife off the counter or somewhere and I stabbed him in the leg. He had stabbed me and he was trying to stab my sister and he stabbed Jenny, so I had no choice -- I had to do it."

Gardai arrived on the scene a few minutes later and found the suspected 21-year-old burglar badly injured. He was still in Beaumont Hospital last night but his injuries are not believed to be serious. No arrests have yet been made.

Gardai believe two people were involved in the botched robbery, but the family say that they think the two men were assisted by someone in a vehicle outside.

Bob_Harris

flanzer wrote: »

To add to this, I laughed a number of months back when some burglers from Darndale tried it on with a Chinese family in a neighbouring estate to mine and killed the scumbag stone dead! Seemingly they tried to take the takings from the family's restaurant and one of the scumbags got the ultimate comeuppance. Justice was truly served

Stories like these warm my heart.

EDIT: Bah he didn't die, truly disappointing.

rebel girl 15

Confab wrote: »

No link in three pages? Didn't happen lads. Score another one for mass hysteria.

It did happen - its on the front of the Irish Daily Mail

His grandfather is 82 and is now in a coma in Waterford regional hospital is a critical condition. Attack took place at 9.40pm Wednesday. Paddy Barry is described as a small, frail - a gently and quiet man. The house was not ranksacked

yop

flanzer wrote: »

To add to this, I laughed a number of months back when some burglers from Darndale tried it on with a Chinese family in a neighbouring estate to mine and killed the scumbag stone dead! Seemingly they tried to take the takings from the family's restaurant and one of the scumbags got the ultimate comeuppance. Justice was truly served

EDIT: Sorry, I thought he died. Here's the story. Heros .... http://www.independent.ie/national-news/hero-father-defends-family-as-knifewielding-thugs-threaten-to-kill-his-twoweekold-son-1301203.html

But will the Chinese lad do time for this the stabbing?

I would hope I would do the same if anyone came in and threatened my family, would I be brave enough who knows, the baseball bat beside my bed is there for a reason. If I crack a guys head open with it so be it, he wasn't invited into my house.