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2009 - 2010 NHL Season Thread

  • 19-08-2009 11:23pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 149 ✭✭


    SO here we go again.......
    I'll tell yas now-
    East
    1.Philidelphia - Good signings always a good team
    2.Washington - In the cup shake-up if Ovie stays fit
    3.Boston - Not as good a season, but lessons learned
    4.Pittsburgh - Cup winners not enough depth to win division
    5.New Jersey - Never far away, rarely miss playoffs but weakened
    6.New York Rangers - Decent signings
    7.Montreal - Finally might get it together
    8.???? Toronto/buffalo/florida (ill make my mind up closer to season start)
    Dark Horse for Cup- NYR

    West
    1.Detroit - Always top
    2.San José - Solid group but need to keep Thornton fit
    3.Calgary - Iginla leads the way
    4.Chicago - Won't top detroit in Central young and aspiring team
    5.Vancouver - Nice to resign Sedins, decent season with Luongo again
    6.Anaheim - Decent team with Getzlaf - Perry - Ryan
    7.Dallas - Get Turco over last year and should have decent run
    8. ????? Columbus/L.A./Edmonton (same as east)
    Dark Horse for Cup - Vancouver


    Last 4 [Detroit vs Chicago] and [Philidelphia and Pittsburgh]
    After that its who wants it more (and whos got better goalkeeping)

    All in all I dont see teams like Tampa and colorado improving much.
    Interesting to see how the Islanders can turn things around...also Minnesota might spring a surprise.

    Ottawa and Atlanta are going nowhere
    Colorado and Phenoix are in the same boat (unless Pheonix is no more of course)

    What does everyone else think will happen?
    NJD fan here


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    Detroit has definitely gotten weaker in the offseason.

    San Jose is going to be shaken up in the very near future. Their roster is in no way settled at this particular time. Doug Wilson is really looking to make an impact before the season starts. Stay tuned to see what happens with the Sharks.

    Calgary has improved in the coaching department with the addition of Brent Sutter. They will definitely be more defensive minded. Too many question marks with the offense at the moment for me. They also need some help between the pipes to back up Kipper.

    Chicago needs to shake off a nightmarish summer in the media. The RFA signing fiasco that cost the team valuable salary cap room. The firing of Tallon and promotion of Scotty Bowman's son Stan to GM turned the fans against Team President John McDonough this offseason. Marian Hossa's shoulder injury/surgery didn't do anything to calm the situation. Patrick Kane being indicted in Buffalo was the icing on the cake. The Hawks are also suspect between the pipes with Huet who was suspect at times last season. The Hawks also do not have a viable backup to Huet at the moment either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,227 ✭✭✭Shanannigan


    some big changes in montreal... i took my eyes off for a couple of weeks and come back to find kovalev and koivu gone... kovi i can handle.. but i honestly thought koivu would finish his career in montreal.. i'm excited about the new season though, anxious to see what the habs line up can do this time around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    some big changes in montreal... i took my eyes off for a couple of weeks and come back to find kovalev and koivu gone... kovi i can handle.. but i honestly thought koivu would finish his career in montreal.. i'm excited about the new season though, anxious to see what the habs line up can do this time around.

    Trading for Gomez was ridiculous.

    All of that money for a second line centre at best.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 47 scottyccfc


    Its just not the same or as good as the 90s :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    scottyccfc wrote: »
    Its just not the same or as good as the 90s :D

    What isn't ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭BrianCalgary


    The leaves are changing colour and there appears to be a twinge of snow on the Rockies.

    That can only mean one thing: NHL Season is soon to be upon us. :)

    Could this be the year of the Flames?

    New coach, new defensemen? Only time will tell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    The leaves are changing colour and there appears to be a twinge of snow on the Rockies.

    That can only mean one thing: NHL Season is soon to be upon us. :)

    Could this be the year of the Flames?

    New coach, new defensemen? Only time will tell.


    I like alot of what Darryl did in the offseason. He is building from the nets out. He is going to need to get Kipper some back-up help (especially in an Olympic year). Adding Brent as the coach was a great move.

    I would be worried about who is going to score this season for the Flames though.

    It's going to be interesting to see if Chicago or Calgary can unseat Detroit at the top of the Conference this season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,946 ✭✭✭red_ice


    I've started playing hockey again, im going after number 77 (ray bourke!)

    I know the av's havnt really been up to par, but for some reason they hold a very special place for me. Ill be routing for them regardless of strength. Something im not used to as i follow manchester united in footy!

    go avs!

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    scottyccfc wrote: »
    Its just not the same or as good as the 90s :D

    no way, although those are the names that i grew up with. 2001 was the pinnicle of hockey imo. Obviously me being an av's fan.. cmon like...

    roy, forsberg, hejduk, foote, tanguay, sakic and bourke to name but a few. Insane Hockey played that season. sakic was the best player to step foot on ice. Forget your howe, orr and goretzki - super joe was the best!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    San Jose is going to be shaken up in the very near future. Their roster is in no way settled at this particular time. Doug Wilson is really looking to make an impact before the season starts. Stay tuned to see what happens with the Sharks.

    Doug Wilson shook up his lineup by trading for Dany Heatley

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=290808

    Disgruntled forward Dany Heatley has gotten his wish.

    Heatley and a fifth round draft pick have been traded to the San Jose Sharks in exchange for Milan Michalek, Jonathan Cheechoo and a second round pick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,227 ✭✭✭Shanannigan


    I know the av's havnt really been up to par, but for some reason they hold a very special place for me. Ill be routing for them regardless of strength.

    go avs!

    the connection i hold with avs is that its the same franchise that was once owned by Québec Nordiques.. I've been watchin some youtube clips of classic encounters between them and habs.. there were some epic battles.. as well as a few bench clearing brawls.. most notable being the good friday brawl of 1984..
    the rivalry between montreal and quebec at that time was quite fierce


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    red_ice wrote: »
    . Forget your howe, orr and goretzki - super joe was the best!

    Joe Sakic was a great player, better yet, a classy player, but he can't be mentioned in the same breath as, Orr and Gretzky. Arguably, #1 and 1A (take your pick) in the history of the game

    Take a deep breath and maybe you can mention him the second or third go around.


    Joe was great, but nowhere near the greatest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭BrianCalgary


    Fleury steps on theice for the Flames tonight. I don't think he'll be aorund for too long, but stranger things have happened.

    I think the Flames are definitely stronger and will vie for Lord Stanley's mug.

    to red_ice: forget Howe, Orr and Gretzky? You are mad. I got to watch Orr and Gretzky in their primes and Joe Sakic was definitely not as good. I watched Joe play in Swift Current and you knew he was going to be special.

    Orr and Gretzky are in a class all themselves. I only saw Gordie toward the tail end of his career but my Dad's generation spoke very, very highly of him, and those who witnessed his play put him in with Gretzky and Orr.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭BrianCalgary


    Fleury scores the winning goal in a shoot-out. The fans went mad. :)

    My son was at the game and he said that the fans were really pulling for him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    Fleury scores the winning goal in a shoot-out. The fans went mad. :)

    My son was at the game and he said that the fans were really pulling for him.

    Great story.....but he'll never make it in the NHL at his age.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 55 ✭✭Linus67


    As a Leafs fan I am delighted with the signing of Phil Kessel from the Boston Bruins. Though the signing was costly as Boston will receive the Maple Leafs’ first-round draft picks in 2010 and 2011 and their second-round draft pick in 2010.
    http://mapleleafs.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=499059

    The team that has impressed me so far with their signings has to be the Montreal Canadiens.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭BrianCalgary


    Great story.....but he'll never make it in the NHL at his age.

    Scuttlebut around town has Theo playing in Abbotsford and then coming up after Christmas to see how he has fared.

    Theo and the Flames then have a sit down, they shake hands have a beer and a retirment party were the number 14 gets retired.

    We'll see though. He scored again last night and grabbed a couple of assists.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,711 ✭✭✭Waitsian


    Fleury scores the winning goal in a shoot-out. The fans went mad. :)

    My son was at the game and he said that the fans were really pulling for him.
    Great story.....but he'll never make it in the NHL at his age.

    Allison attempting the same thing in Hogtown; has played well in pre-season games.

    Hope at last in LeafsNation :D - playoffs? Distinct possibility; Cup? Not this year, but we're on the right road. Onwards and upwards.

    Raptors completely rebuilt too. And TFC on the brink of post-season play. Shame about the Jays. Aw well - 3/4 ain't bad. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭BrianCalgary


    I have a ticket to the Flames home opener next Thursday night vs Vancouver.

    Fleury still around. hhmmmm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,946 ✭✭✭red_ice


    to red_ice: forget Howe, Orr and Gretzky? You are mad. I got to watch Orr and Gretzky in their primes and Joe Sakic was definitely not as good. I watched Joe play in Swift Current and you knew he was going to be special.

    Orr and Gretzky are in a class all themselves. I only saw Gordie toward the tail end of his career but my Dad's generation spoke very, very highly of him, and those who witnessed his play put him in with Gretzky and Orr.

    Ahh of course they were great. Sure Gretzky was in fairness the greatest player to step on the ice and all that. However sakic just had the whole package for me, stuff i dont see in other hockey players. I dont know, he was an idol for me 9 years ago and to this day actually, Gretzky was never one for me. If you put howe or orr in their prime on the ice with sakic in his, id bet sakic hands down. Sure cmon, howe and orr played in an era where people could smoke on the bench :p Its a different caliber of athlete.

    Joe Sakic was a great player, better yet, a classy player, but he can't be mentioned in the same breath as, Orr and Gretzky. Arguably, #1 and 1A (take your pick) in the history of the game

    Yep, he was classy. Again, the whole package, he didnt have other people fighting his fights either (as far as i remember). The pecking order in my eyes if i was to be a straight shooter would by gretzky then sakic.. however, in my eyes sakic was the greatest


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 149 ✭✭Junior #8


    On my original post, I'm goin to throw St. Louis on that list, the team looks like they are in good shape


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭BrianCalgary


    red_ice wrote: »
    Ahh of course they were great. Sure Gretzky was in fairness the greatest player to step on the ice and all that. However sakic just had the whole package for me, stuff i dont see in other hockey players. I dont know, he was an idol for me 9 years ago and to this day actually, Gretzky was never one for me. If you put howe or orr in their prime on the ice with sakic in his, id bet sakic hands down. Sure cmon, howe and orr played in an era where people could smoke on the bench :p Its a different caliber of athlete.




    Yep, he was classy. Again, the whole package, he didnt have other people fighting his fights either (as far as i remember). The pecking order in my eyes if i was to be a straight shooter would by gretzky then sakic.. however, in my eyes sakic was the greatest

    Sakic couldn't take and control a game like Gretzky and Orr could. They could control the speed of a game. They had the ability to raise teammates, or get them to slow down if need be.

    Joe never had that ability. Dont get me wrong I thought Sakic was great and loved watching him, but he could not control a game like Gretazky or Orr.


    Too bad about Theo, we were all cheering for him, but now he got: reinstatement by the league and a chance to retire with honour and dignity.

    Good on teh Flames orgnisation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,227 ✭✭✭Shanannigan


    It starts TONIGHT!!!! can't wait to see how the new habs work out this season...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    It starts TONIGHT!!!! can't wait to see how the new habs work out this season...

    Bettman has four teams in Europe to 'kick off the NHL season' and then he starts the season in Canada the night before.

    No one screws up like this and keeps their job. You would swear he was on the FF payroll.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭BrianCalgary


    Bettman has got to go, he has no understanding of the mind of the hockey fan. No better placce to start the season than Canada, we care more about it than the American team fans of the teams over there and teh Europeans.

    Well, the Saddledome was cooking last night, retro jerseys, the hated cry-baby Canucks (complete with Sedin sisters) and we beat'em. :)

    Flames 2-3 on the power play, a vast improvement over last year, Kipper rock solid. I was concerned with the forwards and their lack of attention to intelligent defensive play in the third.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    Kipper rock solid.

    I wouldn't worry about Kipper in the regular season. If they don't find a suitable backup, then I would begin to worry about him getting worn out in the post season.
    I was concerned with the forwards and their lack of attention to intelligent defensive play in the third.

    That's the one thing that I wouldn't worry about with a team coached by Brent Sutter. This is the one are that he is going to concentrate on as the season progresses. It's in his nature.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭BrianCalgary


    I wouldn't worry about Kipper in the regular season. If they don't find a suitable backup, then I would begin to worry about him getting worn out in the post season.



    That's the one thing that I wouldn't worry about with a team coached by Brent Sutter. This is the one are that he is going to concentrate on as the season progresses. It's in his nature.

    Wise words. The Flames got a gift from Khabibulin on Saturday night v the Oilers.

    It's about time that boy did us a favour. :)

    Have you been able to watch the Chicago games in Europe?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    Wise words. The Flames got a gift from Khabibulin on Saturday night v the Oilers.

    It's about time that boy did us a favour. :)

    Have you been able to watch the Chicago games in Europe?

    I had the North American Sports Network (now ESPN America) for years. I relocated back to Chicago in August and will be at the home opener against Colorado tonight.

    Looking forward to hearing the Anthem at the UC again. There is honestly nothing else like it in sports.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    BLACKHAWKS RALLY FROM 5-0 DOWN TO STUN FLAMES IN OVERTIME


    HOLY **** !!!!

    I still can talk from this game !!

    This ties the NHL record for the greatest comeback in NHL history !!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,227 ✭✭✭Shanannigan


    That road trip didn't end so good... hopefully a nice break before the home stretch will do us good...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,227 ✭✭✭Shanannigan


    BLACKHAWKS RALLY FROM 5-0 DOWN TO STUN FLAMES IN OVERTIME


    HOLY **** !!!!

    I still can talk from this game !!

    This ties the NHL record for the greatest comeback in NHL history !!

    Habs did that a couple of seasons ago against Rangers and you know.. Huet was on that team too... odd co-incidence.. though he was the replacement goalie that night... there's no in between with cristobal huet, when he's good he's sensational.. but when he's off he's woeful..
    habs comeback
    and the video


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭BrianCalgary


    BLACKHAWKS RALLY FROM 5-0 DOWN TO STUN FLAMES IN OVERTIME


    HOLY **** !!!!

    I still can talk from this game !!

    This ties the NHL record for the greatest comeback in NHL history !!

    And that will be enough said about it OK??????? :o:eek:

    Back in 1987 Calgary at Toronto, the same thing happened. We are moving to Calgary the next day from Toronto and I was a diehard Leaf fan. I was miffed that we were at my brothers house and his wife wouldn't let us turn on the TV.

    Flames went up 5-0 and lost 6-5.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    And that will be enough said about it OK??????? :o:eek:

    I am an absolute mess after that win last night.

    The scary thing abount the Blackhaws is that they have yet to play 60 minutes of hockey this season. We have dominated teams and managed to give away points.

    Last night was one for the ages.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭BrianCalgary


    So this becomes the official 09/10 season thread. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭BrianCalgary


    Flames exact revenge on the Blue Jackets.

    We even gave them 2 5 on 3 advantages during the game. Some very suspect officiating.

    Nash is something else to watch. And it is annoying to watch Kristian Huselius score for the BJ's, and I knew teh Flames should never have let him go.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    Can we merge this thread with the other 2009/2010 thread ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭Lisapeep


    Can we merge this thread with the other 2009/2010 thread ?

    The two threads have been merged :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭BrianCalgary


    Flames are playing dynamite hockey. This week is a big test. Colorado and Chicago at home.

    It would be sweet to get 4 points and give none. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    Flames are playing dynamite hockey. This week is a big test. Colorado and Chicago at home.

    It would be sweet to get 4 points and give none. :)

    How did that work out for you ? ;) lol

    THe Hawks just blew the doors of off the Flames in the second period. I was really expecting a different Flames team to start the third, but the Flames really came out without any real sense of urgency.

    Since the Hawks went down 5-0 to the Flames back in October, then have now outscored them 13-1.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭BrianCalgary


    How did that work out for you ? ;) lol

    THe Hawks just blew the doors of off the Flames in the second period. I was really expecting a different Flames team to start the third, but the Flames really came out without any real sense of urgency.

    Since the Hawks went down 5-0 to the Flames back in October, then have now outscored them 13-1.

    Not too well. Crappy week all around.
    Tuesday lose to Colaorado, Wednesday Thierry Henry and then last nights stinker against Chicago.

    I thought that after Jokinens goal that we were in for a game. I just hope the weekend is better and the Stampeders beat Saskatchewan.

    PS; I appreciate your graciousness. :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    Edmonton and Vancouver this weekend, followed by San Jose, LA and Anaheim before we head home. I am afraid that we may have blown our load on that game.

    I was surprised at how flat the Flames were in the 3rd period. I really expected Brent to fired them up and make a run at it.

    PS; I appreciate your graciousness. :)


    If it makes you feel any better, I just went out and bought Theo's book at lunchtime today. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭BrianCalgary


    Edmonton and Vancouver this weekend, followed by San Jose, LA and Anaheim before we head home. I am afraid that we may have blown our load on that game.

    I was surprised at how flat the Flames were in the 3rd period. I really expected Brent to fired them up and make a run at it.





    If it makes you feel any better, I just went out and bought Theo's book at lunchtime today. :D

    You have to hand it to Chicago they beat both Edmonton and Vancouver, which I am thrilled about. :)

    We played LA on Saturday and beat them 4-2, we have beaten LA 10 of teh last 11 times we played. Sorta like when we play the Hawks and they keep beating us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    San Jose for the Hawks on Wednsday. The Sharks are up four points in the standings, but the Hawks have three games in hand. This is going to be a HUGE game for both teams.

    I loved us beating Vancouver last night. As Jonathon Toews mentioned ' there is alot of hatred brewing between these two teams', so it warms my heart beating them 1-0.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭Dublinproud


    The schedule is so annoying this year...like 10 games on last night..1 tonight and 15 tomorrow.I know its an Olympic year but thats very annoying!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭BrianCalgary


    The schedule is so annoying this year...like 10 games on last night..1 tonight and 15 tomorrow.I know its an Olympic year but thats very annoying!

    It is also done to accomodate the US Thanksgiving holiday weekend which extends from Thursday to Sunday. Today may be a travel day for many Americans so they can't attend games until they get to their destination on Wednesday. Then go to the game on Thanksgiving Eve, watch football on Thursday and Friday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    Blackhawks vs Sharks tonight in San Jose. Marian Hossa set to make his debut for the Hawks who have won seven in a row.

    San Jose has the highest point total in the NHL at the moment with the Hawks four points behind with three games in hand.

    I have a barstool with my name on it tonight !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭BrianCalgary


    Blackhawks vs Sharks tonight in San Jose. Marian Hossa set to make his debut for the Hawks who have won seven in a row.

    San Jose has the highest point total in the NHL at the moment with the Hawks four points behind with three games in hand.

    I have a barstool with my name on it tonight !!

    Enjoy, my son is off to the Calgary - Phoenix game. I'm destined to watch it on TV


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    The Blackhawks were up 7-0 before giving up a 5 on 3 and another garbage goal to win 7-2 tonight.

    The Hawks scored three shorthanded goals to jump out to a 3-0 lead before scoring another four unanswered goals.

    The Hawks are now two points behind the Sharks in the Western Conference, with three games in hand.

    Long way to go.........but things are looking good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭Dublinproud


    The Hawks are looking very impressive.Great road trip for them and any team that beats a team with Dany Heatley in the line up is alright by me! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    BLACKHAWKS VAULT INTO TOP SPOT IN TSN.CA NHL POWER RANKINGS

    I know that this really doesn't mean anything in December ....but sure feels good right now.


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