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You say ooh ooh, I say ban the Veronicas - WORST lyrics ever?

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    #32
    Aidric
    Registered Users Posts: 13,589 ✭✭✭✭Aidric


    The Black Eyed Peas look like a travelling circus to me, a sh1t one at that.


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    #33
    Ed_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 194 ✭✭Ed_


    I have never heard of the Veronicas. This must be due to my reluctance to listen to pop music radio stations. As shown in this thread terrible lyrics are not a recent phenomenon


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    #34
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users Posts: 23,994 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    jackncoke wrote: »
    I would, what bloke wouldn't?

    http://www.popstarsplus.com/images/TheVeronicasSexyPicture001.jpg


    Graham Norton might be just a tad reluctant.


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    #35
    Capt'n Midnight
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 90,897 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Remember George Harrison's "Got My Mind Set On You"


    WEIRD AL YANKOVIC

    "(This Song's Just) Six Words Long"

    This song is just six words long
    This song is just six words long
    This song is just six words long
    This song is just six words long

    Couldn't think of any lyrics
    No I never wrote the lyrics
    So I'll just sing any old lyrics
    That come to mind, child

    You really need words
    Whole lotta rhyming words
    You gotta rhyme so many words, mm-mm
    To do it, to do it, to do it, to do it
    To do it, to do it right, child

    This song is just six words long
    This song is just six words long
    This song is just six words long
    This song is just six words long

    I know that you're probably sore
    'Cause I didn't write any more
    I just didn't get to complete it
    So that's why I gotta repeat it

    This song is just six words long (six words long)
    This song is just six words long (six words long)

    Oh I make a lotta money
    They pay me a ton of money
    They're payin' me plenty of money
    To sing this song, child

    I gotta fill time
    Three minutes worth of time
    Oh, how will I fill so much time, mm-mm
    I'll throw in a solo, a solo, a solo
    A solo, a solo here

    This song is just six words long
    This song is just six words long
    This song is just six words long
    This song is just six words long

    This song's got nothin' to say
    But I'm recording it anyway
    I know if I put my mind to it
    I know I could find a good rhyme here

    Oh, you gotta have-a music
    You need really catchy music
    This song has got plenty of music
    But just six words, child

    And so I'll sing' em over
    And over and over and over
    And over and over and over, mm-mm
    And over and over and over
    And over and over and over again

    Six words long, six words long
    Six words long, six words long
    Six words long, six words long

    This song is just six words long
    It's just six words long


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    #36
    Acacia
    Registered Users Posts: 2,816 ✭✭✭Acacia


    TheZohan wrote: »
    Pop music has always been this bad.

    Lemme hear ya say yeah! (wow!)
    Lemme hear ya say yeah! (wow!)
    No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no ,no ,no, no there's no limit!
    no, no, no ,no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no there's no limit!
    No no limits, we'll reach for the sky!
    No valley to deep. No mountain too high.
    No no limits, we'll reach for the sky,
    we do what we want and we do it with pride.

    Hey! That song's a classic!* :p

    That Veronicas' song is pure muck and they're really not that hot, at least not hot enough to validate that piece of sh1t!




    * when completely locked.


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    #37
    WeleaseWoderick
    Registered Users Posts: 1,441 ✭✭✭WeleaseWoderick


    Nothing can be as bad as the following lyric from 90's group Snap's song "Rhythm is a Dancer" :

    "I'm serious as cancer
    when I say rhythm is a dancer!"

    Although Shakira's "Whenever, Wherever" song came close with this classic:

    "Lucky that my breasts are small and humble
    So you don't confuse them with mountains"


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    #38
    Amston
    Registered Users Posts: 39 ✭Amston


    I have to change radio stations when that Veronicas song comes on.... I cannot STAND it, it should be banned forever :mad:


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    #39
    johnmacward
    Registered Users Posts: 274 ✭✭johnmacward


    I'm surprised I haven't been eaten alive for saying this stuff about the Veronica's, some idiots are buying the singles obviously.

    I should named the topic: The Veronica's: most intriguing lyrics of all time? then I'd get the fans.

    Or maybe EVERYBODY thinks the Veronica's are sh1te. Completely possible.


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    #40
    johnmacward
    Registered Users Posts: 274 ✭✭johnmacward


    WeleaseWoderick wrote: »
    Nothing can be as bad as the following lyric from 90's group Snap's song "Rhythm is a Dancer" :

    "I'm serious as cancer
    when I say rhythm is a dancer!"

    Although Shakira's "Whenever, Wherever" song came close with this classic:

    "Lucky that my breasts are small and humble
    So you don't confuse them with mountains"
    I concur completely, especially on Shakira's breasts that aren't as big mountains line. I mean for **** sake.

    Lady Gaga is like that as well to be fair, lyrics don't make any sense as if shes trying to take the piss out of the general public. She says everyday: "I can't believe they love my bull****, the absolutley LOVE it".


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    #41
    Prof.Badass
    Registered Users Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭Prof.Badass


    Who gives a fuck about lyrics?
    It's all about the music. The rhythm, the chord-progressions, the melody. That's what makes listening to music feel good. The specific words used in the melody are just an afterthought, a formality.

    I'm not saying the songs mentioned are good, but if you honestly think that lyrics are anywhere near as important as the 3 things mentioned above, imo you are either one of those "art-****" or a musical retard.


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    #42
    Rob_l
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    Steoob wrote: »
    http://blog.peta2.com/veronicas.jpg

    You ****in would though. Jesus. And you KNOW they like to get freaky.
    I_am_Jebus wrote: »
    to be honest I am not sure I care about the lyrics. I'm more interested in the video. Those girls are fricking hot. they can come lalalalala, oh ah ah, or breathe me any time they want. ;)
    jackncoke wrote: »
    I would, what bloke wouldn't?

    http://www.popstarsplus.com/images/TheVeronicasSexyPicture001.jpg

    Ok so they are hot, so they could have had a career in the porn industry that still doesn't account for people buying their music or even for listening to it (they must be otherwise why are commercial stations playing them).

    JohnMacWard as someone else said the only station worth listening to is radioIpod which plays no hits from the 80's or 90's does play actual non stop music and does not repeat the same six songs every hour on the hour(well unless thats your bag) but seeing as your stuck in a workplace where that cant happen i suggest radioSilence sponsored by the good people at http://www.earplugsonline.com/


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    #43
    Rob_l
    Registered Users Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭Rob_l


    vinylmesh wrote: »
    Who gives a fuck about lyrics?
    It's all about the music. The rhythm, the chord-progressions, the melody. That's what makes listening to music feel good. The specific words used in the melody are just an afterthought, a formality.

    I'm not saying the songs mentioned are good, but if you honestly think that lyrics are anywhere near as important as the 3 things mentioned above, imo you are either one of those "art-****" or a musical retard.

    Thats bullcrap music is a collection of many things and the lyrics and content of them is as important as anything else you said. If not why would there be so many sites dedicated to song lyrics.
    Why would people take such importantance from them, if people did not consider them important?


    But you go on right ahead being a snob about it, it wont bother me


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    #44
    ejmaztec
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    Rob_l wrote: »
    Thats bullcrap music is a collection of many things and the lyrics and content of them is as important as anything else you said. If not why would there be so many sites dedicated to song lyrics.
    Why would people take such importantance from them, if people did not consider them important?


    But you go on right ahead being a snob about it, it wont bother me

    You forgot to mention the videos with the gratuitous tit-shots.


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    #45
    quickylicky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37 ✭quickylicky


    u obviously care enough about d song 2 go 2 all d bother of makin a post abou it nd printin ou all d words... its good song!! end of, jus admit it!:D:D


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    #46
    Rob_l
    Registered Users Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭Rob_l


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    You forgot to mention the videos with the gratuitous tit-shots.

    Your right, but it was implied in fact for every response i have ever posted on boards I always assummed everyone knew there was an implied gratuitous tit-shot


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    #47
    Prof.Badass
    Registered Users Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭Prof.Badass


    Rob_l wrote: »
    Thats bullcrap music is a collection of many things and the lyrics and content of them is as important as anything else you said. If not why would there be so many sites dedicated to song lyrics.
    Why would people take such importantance from them, if people did not consider them important?

    Because there's a lot of art-**** out there :D.

    But more importantly, people like to know the lyrics of a song so they can sing along. Nothing wrong with that.

    Think of all the good, catchy songs that have been released in recent years (there have been some). Now think about their lyrics. hmmmmm....

    Ask someone to sing "seven nation army" by the white stripes. Chances are they won't even sing the lyrics at all, rather they'll sing the guitar riff. Strange :rolleyes:.

    And what about classical music. An aweful lot of classical music is fully instrumental. Think of the best instrumental classical songs. Are they somehow inferior because they lack lyrics?


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    #48
    Kold
    Registered Users Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    quickylicky wrote: »
    u obviously care enough about d song 2 go 2 all d bother of makin a post abou it nd printin ou all d words... its good song!! end of, jus admit it!:D:D
    Oh wow.


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    #49
    Rob_l
    Registered Users Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭Rob_l


    vinylmesh wrote: »
    Because there's a lot of art-**** out there :D.

    But more importantly, people like to know the lyrics of a song so they can sing along. Nothing wrong with that.

    Think of all the good, catchy songs that have been released in recent years (there have been some). Now think about their lyrics. hmmmmm....

    Ask someone to sing "seven nation army" by the white stripes. Chances are they won't even sing the lyrics at all, rather they'll sing the guitar riff. Strange :rolleyes:.

    And what about classical music. An aweful lot of classical music is fully instrumental. Think of the best instrumental classical songs. Are they somehow inferior because they lack lyrics?


    This discussion should be in the music forum!

    I didn't want to suggest that songs without words are in anyway lesser, but to suggest that words are not important in music is absolute toss. Words can convey very strong emotions and sentiments very quickly so as part of a song which tries to convey any experience they are very useful to the creator to express the same to his/her/their audience.

    Words are very powerful and used in conjuction with good music can make good songs. they are In no way the lesser part of a song in fact good lyrics can often drive the creation of the music, froma song writing POV.

    To belittle someone for listening to lyrics is a bit mindless though and does nothing except make you seem pretentious.


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    #50
    Kold
    Registered Users Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    vinylmesh wrote: »
    Because there's a lot of art-**** out there :D.

    But more importantly, people like to know the lyrics of a song so they can sing along. Nothing wrong with that.

    Think of all the good, catchy songs that have been released in recent years (there have been some). Now think about their lyrics. hmmmmm....

    Ask someone to sing "seven nation army" by the white stripes. Chances are they won't even sing the lyrics at all, rather they'll sing the guitar riff. Strange :rolleyes:.

    And what about classical music. An aweful lot of classical music is fully instrumental. Think of the best instrumental classical songs. Are they somehow inferior because they lack lyrics?
    Stop, please just stop. You're hurting my brain. Lyrics can or can not matter, some music is great because of it's lyrics over all the other elements, think Neutral Milk Hotel or Bob Dylan. However some music is soured by it's sh*tty lyrics, think Muse. This music however has only one redeeming feature, it makes girls dance like sluts in clubs. The lyrics are the easiest thing to attack though.


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    #51
    dar83
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    quickylicky wrote: »
    u obviously care enough about d song 2 go 2 all d bother of makin a post abou it nd printin ou all d words... its good song!! end of, jus admit it!:D:D

    People give out about the lyrics in these dodgy songs... yet here is evidence of the audience they're aimed at.

    Coincidence?! :)


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    #52
    Rob_l
    Registered Users Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭Rob_l


    dar83 wrote: »
    People give out about the lyrics in these dodgy songs... yet here is evidence of the audience they're aimed at.

    Coincidence?! :)

    I seen that post and my first repsonse was the same as Kolds "Wow" post, I was amazed and a little scared by it


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    #53
    angel01
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    I like The Veronicas but I admit those lyrics are crap :eek: their newer stuff is utter pants now, they used to record decent songs and what is the story these days with so much computerised songs, where have all the real singers gone? :(


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    #54
    ScumLord
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    I've cut all ties with the popular media. My TV is gone, I rarely listen to the radio, the only time I do is first thing in the morning but even when I'm in the car I can't leave it on for to long, as soon as a song comes on I just have to switch it off.

    My life is so much better for it, I don't have to hear about every dead child/stab victim or paedophile in the world while I'm eating my dinner. I don't have to listen to horrible, horrible music and I don't give a damn what the government are doing because their not my government any more.


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    #55
    cathysworld
    Closed Accounts Posts: 378 ✭✭cathysworld


    ScumLord wrote: »
    I've cut all ties with the popular media. My TV is gone, I rarely listen to the radio, the only time I do is first thing in the morning but even when I'm in the car I can't leave it on for to long, as soon as a song comes on I just have to switch it off.

    My life is so much better for it, I don't have to hear about every dead child/stab victim or paedophile in the world while I'm eating my dinner. I don't have to listen to horrible, horrible music and I don't give a damn what the government are doing because their not my government any more.

    Same here, I listen to CDs in the car, avoid TV and flick thru a newspaper on the off chance there's something interesting in it! DJs play the worst sh1t cos its popular!


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    #56
    moonflower
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    I think I must be cut off from the world because I've never heard of The Veronicas and I just youtubed the song and I've never heard that either. Can't say I listen to the radio all too often though


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    angel01
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    moonflower wrote: »
    I think I must be cut off from the world because I've never heard of The Veronicas and I just youtubed the song and I've never heard that either. Can't say I listen to the radio all too often though

    They are an Australian group, they are very famous over there, they are starting to promote themselves more in Europe now. Their older stuff was of a better quality than this.


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    #58
    Prof.Badass
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    Rob_l wrote: »
    This discussion should be in the music forum!

    I didn't want to suggest that songs without words are in anyway lesser, but to suggest that words are not important in music is absolute toss. Words can convey very strong emotions and sentiments very quickly so as part of a song which tries to convey any experience they are very useful to the creator to express the same to his/her/their audience.

    I didn't mean that words are not important, just that they are nowhere near as important in a song as the rhythm, chord-progessions and melody.
    Words are very powerful and used in conjuction with good music can make good songs. they are In no way the lesser part of a song in fact good lyrics can often drive the creation of the music, froma song writing POV.

    I completely disagree. Kurt Cobain once said "music first, lyrics second". That is how i would see things.
    Kold wrote: »
    Stop, please just stop. You're hurting my brain. Lyrics can or can not matter, some music is great because of it's lyrics over all the other elements, think Neutral Milk Hotel or Bob Dylan. However some music is soured by it's sh*tty lyrics, think Muse.

    I really like muse :(. With their interesting chord-progressions and modulations and whatnot, i really think they are steering popular music in a worthy direction (not so much their new stuff, but i really liked absolution). Granted their lyrics make no sense, but that has 0 effect on me. It's still good music (imo).

    I don't see anything special about the likes of bob dylan (haven't heard neutral milk hotel). Wouldn't have listened to him much, but from what i have heard his chord progressions are plain and his music is bare. His vocal melodies are ok i guess, nothing amazing though. Hate the "talk-singing" thing he has going on.


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    #59
    TobyZiegler
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    In order to avoid these kinds of songs I think the new 4Fm is very good. They play a real mix of music - not exactly rock music but very very little if any modern pop music.


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    #60
    fizzynicenice
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    vinylmesh wrote: »
    I completely disagree. Kurt Cobain once said "music first, lyrics second". That is how i would see things.

    Kurt Cobain said a lot of things. Most of it was $hite.


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    Kold
    Registered Users Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    vinylmesh wrote: »
    I don't see anything special about the likes of bob dylan (haven't heard neutral milk hotel). Wouldn't have listened to him much, but from what i have heard his chord progressions are plain and his music is bare. His vocal melodies are ok i guess, nothing amazing though. Hate the "talk-singing" thing he has going on.
    That doesn't matter though. The key to enjoying music is knowing how to listen to it. God knows I'm not the biggest Dylan fan but I respect his position as a great musician. He uses the same chords over and over but his music is carried by the power of his lyrics. Jeff Mangum can't sing and yet sings awesomely because the words of his songs pack a punch and you can hear that he means it, no matter how silly they may seem.
    You aren't going to see the value of either's music if you're too lazy to listen to the words.
    Same goes for other genres, I love hip hop and electronic music of which the most common criticisms are "It's just some fellas talking" or "It's just noise", well uh.. yeah, I guess. But how is that a criticism? A better criticism is that pop music these days is simply recycled melodies, thrown in with some nonsensical, shallow open ended lyrics, sealed together with a commercial image trying to sell a lifestyle.
    The thing about popular music is that it's aimed at a lazy audience, in the same way that the highest grossing movies and books tend to be. The real test of art is the test of time. I guess I am an art wanker but I'm not a poser.

    The message is, music can be judged on several criteria and by picking those 3, you are being somewhat close-minded.

    As for Muse, they are better musicians than your average pop group. But only just. They are incredibly accessible and not all that rewarding though.


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