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"Operation Armageddon" in 1969 would have been mass suicide for Irish - STAY ON TOPIC

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    #122
    Dr. Baltar
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    Dartz wrote: »
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    Very interesting post.
    If a situation like that had ocurred, I guess it would have been seen as acceptable.
    Even if the Brits didn't step up security afterwards, there would have been a possibility of a UN force to protect catholics.


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    #123
    JONJO THE MISER
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    Happy Monday wrote: »
    You can be sure - from Salthill - previous posts of mine will bear this out.
    Where are you from?

    I dunno u call yourself Irish but yet defend the brits and loyalists during 1969, wow your parents must be proud, your a Traitor from the rest of your posts and its as simple as that.


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    #124
    rossie1977
    Registered Users Posts: 11,343 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

    Well my dear man by 2050 The white British will be a minority in there country

    you shouldn't watch so much youtube rubbish ;)

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/8189231.stm


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    #125
    lennymurphy
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    Kalashnikov_Kid wrote: »
    The Irish general public made a good job of burning down the British Embassy anyway.

    I'll say it again - not once did the British Army hold control even in South Armagh - never mind the whole of Northern Ireland - so when there's a will there's a way - never underestimate that.

    Outnumbered armies have defeated the British Army before by relatively simple tactics, such as local knowledge of the terrain.

    The UK armed forces could have killed every man, woman and child in South Armagh if it had felt like it - and done it in a week. You confuse an army fighting as an army with an army giving support to the civil police.

    And no, America wouldn't have invaded The UK, bombed it or in fact done anything at all. More likely it would have asked what assistance was required.


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    #126
    Happy Monday
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    JONJO THE MISER wrote: »
    I dunno u call yourself Irish but yet defend the brits and loyalists during 1969, wow your parents must be proud, your a Traitor from the rest of your posts and its as simple as that.

    The vast majority of posters on here oppose the IRA and all of their actions. Republicans have put the cause of inclusive Irish freedom back many decades. Read the other posters comments on this thread from the South - 'Free State' as you would have it - and check out the hosility towards the IRA and their apologists of which we can count you among their number.


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    #127
    lennymurphy
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    JONJO THE MISER wrote: »
    Well said my dear man, but you see most of the posters saying we would not of won it are Brits so of course there going to say that. The Irish were always a tough bunch and we have a great warrior mood when challenged unlike the Brits who Just pillaged and raped much of the world, lets remember they were defeated by a small amount of Americans when they had colonies there:D, oh and Jeez look how there getting trashed in Afganistan:D.

    And who do you think those 'Americans' were? Yes, you guessed it, BRITISH colonists, especially Ulster Scots.

    Trashed in Afghanistan? Care to tell us what the kill ratio is for UK forces?


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    #128
    JONJO THE MISER
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    rossie1977 wrote: »
    you shouldn't watch so much youtube rubbish ;)

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/8189231.stm

    I can provide you with plenty of Articles that say the white Brits will be a minority by 2050, aww the poor old Brits are Just so scared of them evil Immigrants, are you British? there seems to be so many British moving to Ireland and Canada and Aus and they all complain about Immigrants its so sad that they cant embrace diffrent races like us Irish, but i guess that is the Brits history, just hate everyone.


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    #129
    lennymurphy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10 ✭lennymurphy


    JONJO THE MISER wrote: »
    No the republicans didnt loose the war, they knew they will be the majority by 2015, if you look at the north now 4 out of 6 counties has a Nationlist majority, Derry city is 80% Nationlist and Belfast is 50% Nationlist, so why would you want to carry on a war when by 2015 you will be the majority population and by 2050 will be 75% of the population if prjections are to be believed.

    Have you seen any recent opinion polls mate? Up to half the RC's (not nationalists) don't want a United Ireland - but hey, maybe The IRA can take charge of any polling booths involved...


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    #130
    lennymurphy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10 ✭lennymurphy


    dlofnep wrote: »
    There never was "law and order" in the first place. Murdering civilians doesn't count as law and order I'm afraid.

    Yes, there's more than one Sinn Fein member who could fill you in on that issue...


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    #131
    JONJO THE MISER
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    What Happened to your other post HappyMonday the one in which you tell me to F Off, my my touched a nerve there have I. Usual cant get his way and then resorts to fould words.


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    #132
    Dr. Baltar
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    JONJO THE MISER wrote: »
    Well my dear man by 2050 The white British will be a minority in there country and there already a minority in London, Birmingham and a lot of other cities, the muslims control vast parts of Bradford and oldham and fair play to them, so yes the British are weak and it will be great to see Immigrants overtake the white British. If you ask any Immigrant here in Ireland they love Ireland but despise britain espically the polish. All of the Racist attacks in northern Ireland are at the hands of British loyalists not the Natonlists who embrace the Immigrants.

    You do realise that ost British people do not actually want the North of Ireland as part of the UK right?
    You do realise the "DINGLISH" are not the enemy of Republicanism, right?
    You do realise the only people against a united Ireland are Unionists?


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    #133
    Dinter
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    Small sections of the Irish army were going to carry out unconventional raids on selected targets in Northern Ireland. That's pretty much unstoppable especially if they are going after soft targets like TV studios and airports.

    Meanwhile, against the backdrop of a province exploding in sectarian violence and civilian recrimination the Irish army escorts civilians into the Republic. Does anyone really think there would be full scale engagements between the two forces? The British Government would be only too happy to see republican citizens leave Northern Ireland and would do its best to facilitate it happening.

    While there might be some border scuffles there's no way troops would be fired on. In much the same way as Irish troops used to direct lost British troops back across the border the Irish would go in, fill up with refugees and leave again while the British withdrew a couple of miles to allow it happen.


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    #134
    darkman2
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    lennymurphy wrote: »

    And no, America wouldn't have invaded The UK, bombed it or in fact done anything at all. More likely it would have asked what assistance was required.


    They would have if the UK did not back off when they told them to. Bare in mind your talking about a White House coming off the JFK era, a White House uniquely vulnerable to the Irish American disapora, especially on the East coast. hardly the most pro British in history now was it when it came to Ireland. But don't let fact get in the way of a good rant.


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    #135
    Happy Monday
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    JONJO THE MISER wrote: »
    What Happened to your other post HappyMonday the one in which you tell me to F Off, my my touched a nerve there have I. Usual cant get his way and then resorts to fould words.

    You are on the juice tonight my IRA friend - never told you or anyone to f off - why would I - the vast majority of posters on here are supportive of my position.


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    #136
    lennymurphy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10 ✭lennymurphy


    Dartz wrote: »

    Stuff...

    Oh I agree. If The Irish had offered to permanently remove large numbers of RCs from Northern Ireland, I'm sure The UK would have provided all the transport required (+ a barrel of guiness on each bus).

    Any chance of doing it now?


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    #137
    Kalashnikov_Kid
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    lennymurphy wrote: »
    The UK armed forces could have killed every man, woman and child in South Armagh if it had felt like it - and done it in a week. You confuse an army fighting as an army with an army giving support to the civil police.

    They couldn't do such a thing just because they 'felt like it' - there would have be to be some serious justification for such an horrific thing - I fail to realistically comprehend such a possible scenario.


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    #138
    darkman2
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    lennymurphy wrote: »
    Oh I agree. If The Irish had offered to permanently remove large numbers of RCs from Northern Ireland, I'm sure The UK would have provided all the transport required (+ a barrel of guiness on each bus).

    Any chance of doing it now?



    oooh we have a Northern Protestant bigot in our midst:pac:


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    #139
    PK2008
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    JONJO THE MISER wrote: »
    Well my dear man by 2050 The white British will be a minority in there country and there already a minority in London, Birmingham and a lot of other cities, the muslims control vast parts of Bradford and oldham and fair play to them, so yes the British are weak and it will be great to see Immigrants overtake the white British. If you ask any Immigrant here in Ireland they love Ireland but despise britain espically the polish. All of the Racist attacks in northern Ireland are at the hands of British loyalists not the Natonlists who embrace the Immigrants.

    Thats the end of the thread right there

    *unsubscribes*


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    #140
    JONJO THE MISER
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    Happy Monday wrote: »
    You are on the juice tonight my IRA friend - never told you or anyone to f off - why would I - the vast majority of posters on here are supportive of my position.

    What are you Talking about i clearly saw the post my loyalist supporting Friend, and i would think the majority of poster would support Ireland and Irish people, you are clearly not Irish and a loyalist sympatiser so i wont bother with you anymore.


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    #141
    Dartz
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    Sir Baralot wrote: »
    Very interesting post.
    If a situation like that had ocurred, I guess it would have been seen as acceptable.
    Even if the Brits didn't step up security afterwards, there would have been a possibility of a UN force to protect catholics.

    Lol Thanks...

    I've played a few games of 40k and think I know military stuffs.

    1: I'm just trying to point out two things. Anyone who thinks we could've taken on the British Army in a direct fight is a bloody moron.

    2. Military action doesn't just involved shooting the bad guys until they fall over. The best way to win is not to fight and all that. Jack Lynch won in 1969 by encouraging the British to send in their troops without using force.

    Then **** got worse.

    Just like this thread which is now filled with morons who will remain nameless purely because direct personal attacks are against the rules. But they know who they are, and so do we.


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    #142
    lennymurphy
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    darkman2 wrote: »
    They would have if the UK did not back off when they told them to. Bare in mind your talking about a White House coming off the JFK era, a White House uniquely vulnerable to the Irish American disapora, especially on the East coast. hardly the most pro British in history now was it when it came to Ireland. But don't let fact get in the way of a good rant.

    America doesn't give a toss about Ireland or The Irish and never did. It does care about it's key ally The UK - only through self interest of course. You see there are perks involved in being a poodle.


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    #143
    darkman2
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    Dartz wrote: »
    Lol Thanks...

    I've played a few games of 40k and think I know military stuffs.

    1: I'm just trying to point out two things. Anyone who thinks we could've taken on the British Army in a direct fight is a bloody moron.

    2. Military action doesn't just involved shooting the bad guys until they fall over. The best way to win is not to fight and all that. Jack Lynch won in 1969 by encouraging the British to send in their troops without using force.

    Then **** got worse.

    And they got the blame - genius;)


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    #144
    Happy Monday
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    darkman2 wrote: »
    They would have if the UK did not back off when they told them to. Bare in mind your talking about a White House coming off the JFK era, a White House uniquely vulnerable to the Irish American disapora, especially on the East coast. hardly the most pro British in history now was it when it came to Ireland. But don't let fact get in the way of a good rant.

    The US was heavily involved in Vietnam at that time plus Nixon as a new President was already engaging in actions in Laos and Cambodia - they would hardly have condemned the Brits for defending part of their national terrority would they?


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    #145
    Dr. Baltar
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    JONJO THE MISER wrote: »
    What are you Talking about i clearly saw the post my loyalist supporting Friend, and i would think the majority of poster would support Ireland and Irish people, you are clearly not Irish and a loyalist sympatiser so i wont bother with you anymore.

    Everything is so black and white with you isn't it?
    If you aren't a supporter of a communist, anti-democratic murdering, illegal army then you must be a supporter of that communist, anti-democratic, murdering, illegal army's enemy which is also a murdering illegal anti-democratic army.


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    #146
    JONJO THE MISER
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    Happy Monday wrote: »
    The US was heavily involved in Vietnam at that time plus Nixon as a new President was already engaging in actions in Laos and Cambodia - they would hardly have condemned the Brits for defending part of their national terrority would they?

    National Terrority:D its Irish terrority and will be returned by 2020 whe the nationlists will be a majority, look everyone knows your Just a Troll so why dont you go back to britain or the shankill road.


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    #147
    Dinter
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    Happy Monday wrote: »
    The US was heavily involved in Vietnam at that time plus Nixon as a new President was already engaging in actions in Laos and Cambodia - they would hardly have condemned the Brits for defending part of their national terrority would they?

    Of course they would, then two hours later they'd condemn the Irish for their part. It's called political expediency. Irish Americans are a large voting block.

    Isn't it funny actually, how well we are treated by the Americans when we do so little to court them and yet the UK which has basically being subsumed by them does not really have a special relationship unless you count doing exactly as they're told.


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    #148
    JONJO THE MISER
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    Dinter wrote: »
    Of course they would, then two hours later they'd condemn the Irish for their part. It's called political expediency. Irish Americans are a large voting block.

    Isn't it funny actually, how well we are treated by the Americans when we do so little to court them and yet the UK which has basically being subsumed by them does not really have a special relationship unless you count doing exactly as they're told.

    Post of the day. Quality.


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    #149
    darkman2
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    lennymurphy wrote: »
    America doesn't give a toss about Ireland or The Irish and never did.

    I said Irish Americans who have influence in elections there. It was FDR who helped raise the Independence loans - why? Because of pressure from his constituents.


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    #150
    Dr. Baltar
    Registered Users Posts: 1,252 ✭✭✭Dr. Baltar


    JONJO THE MISER wrote: »
    National Terrority:D its Irish terrority and will be returned by 2020 whe the nationlists will be a majority, look everyone knows your Just a Troll so why dont you go back to britain or the shankill road.

    In my opinion, it is people like you who are causing the greatest damage to Irish Nationalism.
    You, and the likes of Ferris who look at IRA thugs and view them as heroes.
    Sinn Féin, The IRA, the British and the Unionists need to actually apologise for everything before we ever re-unify this nation.


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    #151
    JONJO THE MISER
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    lennymurphy wrote: »
    America doesn't give a toss about Ireland or The Irish and never did. It does care about it's key ally The UK - only through self interest of course. You see there are perks involved in being a poodle.

    7 posts and all on this subject, back with you to the shankill road you troll. I think you will see that the british or poms as they are called are hated everywhere you go from Canada to America and espically Aus:D and the Irish are loved. St partricks day is celebrated everywhere where is st george day:D nowhere:D.


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