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Bray incident 'Not a knifecrime' because they came from good families

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    #212
    FlutterinBantam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,576 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    I didn't say that.


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    #213
    Micilin Muc
    Registered Users Posts: 2,842 ✭✭✭Micilin Muc


    gurramok wrote: »
    So anyone who murders anyone needs help?

    What's your argument?


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    #214
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 54,650 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Knife crime applies to all families from all walks of life.
    The killer was demented and suffering from jealousy
    and depression and Gardai believe he planned it.
    He is a murderer, plain and simple, and no matter where
    someone is from, their environment, education etc, they all
    can be prone to evil crimes.


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    #215
    lostexpectation
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,082 ✭✭✭lostexpectation


    Cianos wrote: »
    What this thread needs is a clear definition of the word "scumbag"...trying to define the person involved in this case against a word that everyone has a different idea of is just a waste of time.

    this thread is not about that word


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    #216
    gurramok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    FlutterinBantam wrote: »
    I didn't say that.
    FlutterinBantam wrote:
    To me that's a person who probably needed help murdering an innocent person and injuring others

    Its clear above.
    Micilin Muc wrote: »
    What's your argument?

    No excuse for murder especially in this case. The perpetrator in this case committed suicide as in my view knew what he had done wrong and knew he would face life behind bars for the crime so took the cowardly way out.

    Also, he was clear on intent on murdering the brother who had nothing to do with this so called 'love triangle', the intent to kill anyone who got in his way was there.


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    #217
    fryup
    Registered Users Posts: 18,069 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    FFS can someone lock this thread, its over-stepping the mark big time esp this week of all weeks ...with the post mortems, investigations, family funerals etc


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    #218
    FlutterinBantam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,576 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    gurramok wrote: »
    Its clear above.



    No excuse for murder especially in this case. The perpetrator in this case committed suicide as in my view knew what he had done wrong and knew he would face life behind bars for the crime so took the cowardly way out.

    Also, he was clear on intent on murdering the brother who had nothing to do with this so called 'love triangle', the intent to kill anyone who got in his way was there.

    You seem to have a problem with English.

    Anyway I concur with Fryups next post.

    Time for a lock


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    #219
    _blank_
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    Turns out the dude went and bought the knives before stabbing his so called mates.

    He had malice aforethought.

    This wasn't a crime of passion.


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    #220
    gurramok
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    FlutterinBantam wrote: »
    You seem to have a problem with English.

    Where?


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    #221
    Riskymove
    Registered Users Posts: 10,885 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    Des wrote: »
    Turns out the dude went and bought the knives before stabbing his so called mates.

    He had malice aforethought.

    This wasn't a crime of passion.

    I agree, a crime of passion for me is something that happens in the heat of the moment, a row that gets out of hand etc

    not this

    he clearly planned it all and , as I said earlier, anyone who decides on this course of action as a solution to some issues cannot be rational or balanced, whether thats "mentally ill" or not I'll leave to experts


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    #222
    FlutterinBantam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,576 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    FlutterinBantam wrote: »
    To me that's a person who probably needed help murdering an innocent person and injuring others.
    gurramok wrote: »
    So anyone who murders anyone needs help?


    There.


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    #223
    gurramok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    FlutterinBantam wrote: »
    There.

    Stabbing someone to death is murder as in this case.

    You are making an exception here saying 'the person needed help' yet you have a problem classifying anyone else who stabs people to death as 'needing help too'.

    Hypocrisy?


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    #224
    Riskymove
    Registered Users Posts: 10,885 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    gurramok wrote: »
    Stabbing someone to death is murder as in this case.

    You are making an exception here saying 'the person needed help' yet you have a problem classifying anyone else who stabs people to death as 'needing help too'.

    Hypocrisy?

    I think you are reading his sentence wrongly

    I think he means that "this person" was probably a "person who needed help" and ended up murdering an innocent person

    I dont see where he suggests "anyone" who commits murder needs help


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    #225
    Dancor
    Registered Users Posts: 3,623 ✭✭✭Dancor


    Have not read the whole thread but enough to know some people here need to take their heads out of their asses.

    Addict holds someone at knifepoint and robs them but does not physically harm them. By all accounts and every other after hours thread that person is a scumbag.

    This lad murders his ''best mate'' and leaves a blade sticking in the back of a woman and people are giving him the benefit of the doubt :confused:


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    #226
    Hagar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,793 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    Going in circles folks, going in circles.


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    #227
    Terry
    Registered Users Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    dancor wrote: »
    Have not read the whole thread but enough to know some people here need to take their heads out of their asses.

    Addict holds someone at knifepoint and robs them but does not physically harm them. By all accounts and every other after hours thread that person is a scumbag.

    This lad murders his ''best mate'' and leaves a blade sticking in the back of a woman and people are giving him the benefit of the doubt :confused:
    Where is knifepoint?


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