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So, what is it with Dubliners and horrendous first names?

  • 04-08-2009 9:05pm
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,077 ✭✭✭


    It must be asked! (and not for the first time)

    I was listening to the wireless today and somebody with a real inner city Dublin accent came on and was talking about the baby she had today. Yes, it is lovely that the kid was healthy etc.

    Anyway, to the point!

    I surmised from her accent that it wasn't looking good for the poor leanbh's name. I was guessing Assumpta, Concepta, Rose-Violet, Attracta, Dympna, Georgina, Cecilia or some other you-cannot-be-serious name loved by a certain section of Dublin society that make Matt Talbot's afflictions seem mild.

    Chelsea!!!!! She called her child Chelsea. What a raging advertisement of social/cultural/educational disadvantage that has been afflicted on the child.

    How on earth can these sort of names be "cool" or even "nice" never mind "lovely" to this section of Dublin society?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Rebelheart wrote: »
    What a raging advertisement of social/cultural/educational disadvantage that has been afflicted on the child?

    .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    What's wrong with Georgina?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,962 ✭✭✭jumpguy


    Rebelheart wrote: »
    I surmised from her accent that it wasn't looking good for the poor leanbh's name. I was guessing Assumpta, Concepta, Rose-Violet, Attracta, Dympna, Georgina, Cecilia or some other you-cannot-be-serious name loved by a certain section of Dublin society that make Matt Talbot's afflictions seem mild.

    Chelsea!!!!! She called her child Chelsea
    Attracta? Dear God, pop culture has well and truly taken hold. I pity these children.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    She can't have been from the north inner city, otherwise it would have been Celtic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,268 ✭✭✭Elessar


    So what is it with culchies and the horrendous GAA anyway? :pac:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    Now I've got "Chelsea Dagger" stuck in my head.

    Thanks a lot, OP.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 873 ✭✭✭Four-Percent


    Maybe the thread title is misleading,should it not be about Dublin Scumbags' names?All the normal people i know have normal names...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭River Allow


    Elessar wrote: »
    So what is it with culchies and the horrendous GAA anyway? :pac:

    Oh Dear God, not another one of these.... (Bangs head repeatedly off table!!)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭RonMexico


    Chelsea is pretty popular for a girl in America. When Bon Jovi released Midnight in Chelsea the general reaction was one of horror, and not because of the music for once. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭Sea Sharp


    Yes, Bill and Hillary Clinton were also inner city scum bags.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭shenanigans1982


    Whats up with country people being called PJ?.....its even worse when there is more than one of them in the same house.

    For every Dublin problem there is a country equivilent.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43 Expresso Bongo


    It's called being an individual and thinking for yourself. Other countries have been doing it for years and now Dublin is catching on and hopefully demonstrating to the rest here of the amazing possibilities involved with choosing a name for your kids.

    Better than what the rest of the country seem to be happy in doing i.e. calling every child they have after your parents so before you know it there's 50,000 Mary O'Sullivans and 60,000 John Murphys (and variations of the same) populating around a country with less than 5,000,000 people in it. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 705 ✭✭✭yurmothrintites


    Jacintaaaaaa, I want ya!

    There's a rough area in my town and the vast majority of the inhabitants there are named Martin, Michael, Philomena or Jacinta


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭Shacklebolt


    It's called being an individual and thinking for yourself. Other countries have been doing it for years and now Dublin is catching on and hopefully demonstrating to the rest here of the amazing possibilities involved with choosing a name for your kids.

    Better than what the rest of the country seem to be happy in doing i.e. calling every child they have after your parents so before you know it there's 50,000 Mary O'Sullivans and 60,000 John Murphys (and variations of the same) populating around a country with less than 5,000,000 people in it. :rolleyes:

    Yes seeing as its still 1970 down here :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,962 ✭✭✭jumpguy


    It's called being an individual and thinking for yourself. Other countries have been doing it for years and now Dublin is catching on and hopefully demonstrating to the rest here of the amazing possibilities involved with choosing a name for your kids.

    Better than what the rest of the country seem to be happy in doing i.e. calling every child they have after your parents so before you know it there's 50,000 Mary O'Sullivans and 60,000 John Murphys (and variations of the same) populating around a country with less than 5,000,000 people in it. :rolleyes:
    But there's some kinda red-blooded stout hearted hard-man feel behind John Murphy.

    Attracta O' Sullivan just seems knackery.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭RonMexico


    It's called being an individual and thinking for yourself. Other countries have been doing it for years and now Dublin is catching on and hopefully demonstrating to the rest here of the amazing possibilities involved with choosing a name for your kids.

    Better than what the rest of the country seem to be happy in doing i.e. calling every child they have after your parents so before you know it there's 50,000 Mary O'Sullivans and 60,000 John Murphys (and variations of the same) populating around a country with less than 5,000,000 people in it. :rolleyes:

    Since when did being an individual and thinking for yourself involve ripping of American trends?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    Rebelheart wrote: »
    It must be asked! (and not for the first time)

    I was listening to the wireless today and somebody with a real inner city Dublin accent came on and was talking about the baby she had today. Yes, it is lovely that the kid was healthy etc.

    Anyway, to the point!

    I surmised from her accent that it wasn't looking good for the poor leanbh's name. I was guessing Assumpta, Concepta, Rose-Violet, Attracta, Dympna, Georgina, Cecilia or some other you-cannot-be-serious name loved by a certain section of Dublin society that make Matt Talbot's afflictions seem mild.

    Chelsea!!!!! She called her child Chelsea. What a raging advertisement of social/cultural/educational disadvantage that has been afflicted on the child.

    How on earth can these sort of names be "cool" or even "nice" never mind "lovely" to this section of Dublin society?
    What's your name?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,126 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    I know a girl called Gertrude

    she's relatively hot, but you just couldn't


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 437 ✭✭yank_in_eire


    I heard a little skanger in the Square being called back to its mother - "Fabrizio, cuh-MEEYA":confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,150 ✭✭✭kumate_champ07


    GaNjaHaN wrote: »
    Yes, Bill and Hillary Clinton were also inner city scum bags.

    Doesnt Bertie have a Cecillia and a Georgina?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    I know a Chelsea, a Chelcea and a Chelsey.

    Whats wrong with it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15 Mr.Pong


    Rebelheart wrote: »
    It must be asked! (and not for the first time)

    I was listening to the wireless today and somebody with a real inner city Dublin accent came on and was talking about the baby she had today. Yes, it is lovely that the kid was healthy etc.

    Anyway, to the point!

    I surmised from her accent that it wasn't looking good for the poor leanbh's name. I was guessing Assumpta, Concepta, Rose-Violet, Attracta, Dympna, Georgina, Cecilia or some other you-cannot-be-serious name loved by a certain section of Dublin society that make Matt Talbot's afflictions seem mild.

    Chelsea!!!!! She called her child Chelsea. What a raging advertisement of social/cultural/educational disadvantage that has been afflicted on the child.

    How on earth can these sort of names be "cool" or even "nice" never mind "lovely" to this section of Dublin society?

    I've never known any Dub to called those names. ''Chelsea'' is more of an English thing anyway.

    Culchies shouldn't be jealous of Dubs just because they're all called Sean or Mary, or maybe at a stretch, Jimmy John Joe.

    and at least Dubs don't refer to their parents as ''mammy and daddy'' at the age of 50.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    Mr.Pong wrote: »
    Culchies shouldn't be jealous of Dubs just because they're all called Sean or Mary, or maybe at a stretch, Jimmy John Joe.

    and at least Dubs don't refer to their parents as ''mammy and daddy'' at the age of 50.

    Oh dear.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15 Mr.Pong


    Go on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 865 ✭✭✭Purple Gorilla


    What the? Since when are Georgina, Cecelia and Chelsea considered knacker names?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭xOxSinéadxOx


    RonMexico wrote: »
    Since when did being an individual and thinking for yourself involve ripping of American trends?

    don't you mean big brother trends? chantelle etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    Mr.Pong wrote: »
    Culchies shouldn't be jealous of Dubs just because they're all called Sean or Mary, or maybe at a stretch, Jimmy John Joe.

    and at least Dubs don't refer to their parents as ''mammy and daddy'' at the age of 50.

    Well we couldn't address them by their first names, there are already too many Seans and Marys about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭herya


    jumpguy wrote: »
    Attracta? Dear God, pop culture has well and truly taken hold. I pity these children.

    Aren't Attracta, Assumpta, Jacinta etc rather old names though? I'd associate them with current 50 years olds rather than kids?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    Well we couldn't address them by their first names, there are already too many Seans and Marys about.

    Or if they have stupid names, it'd be hard not to laugh when addressing them - my mom and dad are called Yvette and Denis :eek:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15 Mr.Pong


    Well we couldn't address them by their first names, there are already too many Seans and Marys about.

    Ma and Da would suffice!:P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,758 ✭✭✭Stercus Accidit


    In this thread we pick a stereotypical characteristic flaw of the lower classes, and criticise it, reasserting our place above them as better people.

    /thread

    Tomorrow on AH, tracksuits, uniform of the plebs? Be sure to tune in for this totally original discussion, which is sure to bear a fruitful outcome!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 438 ✭✭gerry28


    Another problem with names is both parents wanting their surname after the childs name.

    Like Mary Duffy Doherty, well what happens when Mary Duffy Doherty grows up and has a child with John Darcy Devlin will they name the child - Chelsea Duffy Doherty Darcy Devlin???

    Where does it stop??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭bug


    Attracta is actually a saints name and very old Irish.
    Same with Philomena.

    hardly scangery, and not limited to Dublin.

    Most women with these names are for the most part 40+ and a product of the Isle of saints and scholars.

    Saints winning out when it came to naming children.

    However calling you child after a football team should be banned for many reasons.

    Personally I hate over the top, invented new Oirish names, like Beibhin (sp) (which essentially means baby pig).


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,077 ✭✭✭Rebelheart


    Doesnt Bertie have a Cecillia and a Georgina?


    He does, he does indeed. How about that for a coincidence (ahem!)!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭River Allow


    Shakira, Britney, Chelsea, Jacinta...

    Come in for yer tea will ye's??!

    :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    Britney has to take the cake. What is wrong with Mary or Eve. I also met a lad called Conrad :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    I think the name "Rashers" from Strumpet City sums this all up tbh.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,077 ✭✭✭Rebelheart


    In this thread we pick a stereotypical characteristic flaw of the lower classes, and criticise it, reasserting our place above them as better people.

    /thread

    Tomorrow on AH, tracksuits, uniform of the plebs? Be sure to tune in for this totally original discussion, which is sure to bear a fruitful outcome!


    Em, otherwise it could be a genuine attempt to understand this cultural disposition.

    If I'm not mistaken most Irish-related threads here are, in misleading "class" terms, against the scumbags who have ruined our economy. The politicians, bankers and the entire lot of supposedly "upper" or "middle" class people. "They" are rightly rounded upon on a daily basis. So much for ideas of class oppression.

    PS: But a tracksuit thread is a good idea, almost as good as a "How can these muppets think spoilers are actually cool in 2009?" thread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 48 mam1


    Eh sorry but you were listening to a what??Wireless,yea I rest my case buy a T.V. get some cable and get a life, and yes I am from Dublin dont hate us cos you aint us....


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,077 ✭✭✭Rebelheart


    don't you mean big brother trends? chantelle etc.

    Chantelle??? Oh Jesus, nobody would call their kid that?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭River Allow


    mam1 wrote: »
    Eh sorry but you were listening to a what??Wireless,yea I rest my case buy a T.V. get some cable and get a life, and yes I am from Dublin dont hate us cos you aint us....

    Somehow... I dont think he hates Dublin because he wants to be from there... I doubt very much its jealousy... Particularly after yer display yesterday in Croke Park

    "Oh my God, did she just mention GAA, that means she must be...A CULCHIE..!!!!!!!"

    Grow up will ye, open yer eyes, the OP is right. Its scummy!!

    Right, Mary, John, Pat... They're not the most imaginative names... But at least they've a bit of culture attached to them!!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,077 ✭✭✭Rebelheart


    Terry wrote: »
    What's your name?


    Put it like this, it's not one of those meaningless fashionable airhead names taken off a TV screen.

    What ever happened to established traditions such as, to take one of many, naming your kids after the local saint in your parish? There is a connection there, a meaning, a tradition and a history.

    These wannabe cool (God save us) names: puh!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭herya


    Rebelheart wrote: »
    Chantelle??? Oh Jesus, nobody would call their kid that?

    Oh they would and they had...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,816 ✭✭✭Acacia


    Right, Mary, John, Pat... They're not the most imaginative names... But at least they've a bit of culture attached to them!!!

    What culture? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,816 ✭✭✭Acacia


    Rebelheart wrote: »

    What ever happened to established traditions such as, to take one of many, naming your kids after the local saint in your parish? There is a connection there, a meaning, a tradition and a history.

    People stopped caring about the Church, that's what happened.

    And I don't see how it's meaningless to name your child in a way you like rather than whatever parish you happen to live in.

    Besides most of names mentioned in the OP were saints' names.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Why dont we just call our kids seamus, paidi, tadgh, nancy or bridget. Make country folk feel at home


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,032 ✭✭✭DWCommuter


    orourkeda wrote: »
    Why dont we just call our kids seamus, paidi, tadgh, nancy or bridget. Make country folk feel at home

    Anto and deco would knife them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    DWCommuter wrote: »
    Anto and deco would knife them.

    Battered by beyonce and heavenly harani tigerlily


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,668 ✭✭✭nlgbbbblth


    In this thread we pick a stereotypical characteristic flaw of the lower classes, and criticise it, reasserting our place above them as better people.

    /thread

    Tomorrow on AH, tracksuits, uniform of the plebs? Be sure to tune in for this totally original discussion, which is sure to bear a fruitful outcome!

    you're the person who described it as a "flaw".

    on a totally separate issue, isn't middle class self-loathing a terrible thing?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 244 ✭✭White_Feather


    Doesnt Bertie have a Cecillia and a Georgina?

    Thats probably why the op is saying that they are horrible names because he prob thinks bertie is a scum?!? Complete bollix in my opinion, Cecilia is a completely acceptable name!:rolleyes:

    Now when I hear the names sky and rhys... I start to wonder!!!:eek:

    No joke, I was in mc donalds in omni last year and heard a woman shout after her little girl, pocahantus get back here!!!


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