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Tel Aviv gay center Slaughter!

  • 01-08-2009 10:37pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35


    In this day and age. Any one else very annoyed?

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    Police are hunting a gunman who killed three people and injured 11 others at a youth club for gay teenagers in Tel Aviv.

    They said the black-clad attacker sprayed the inside of the venue with automatic rifle fire.

    A male and a female were killed, and six of those wounded were badly hurt.

    Police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld said it was "most likely a criminal attack and not a terror attack".

    The attacker fled after the shooting and then tried to get into another gay club but was stopped by security guards.

    Israel Channel 10 TV described the scene as a "bloodbath".

    Tel Aviv police chief Shahar Ayalon ordered the closure of all gay bars in the city and set up roadblocks around the area.

    The attack took place inside the Tel Aviv Gay and Lesbian Association building, where teenagers were holding a weekly support group.

    Witness Yaniv Weisman told Channel 10 TV: "This was a hate crime, a pre-meditated attack."

    Israel's biggest city has been the target of Palestinian shootings and suicide bombings.

    But gay leaders believe the attack was homophobic in motive.

    "This is an unprecedented event for Israel and for the community," said association director May Pamel.

    "We have joined the roster of 'civilised' countries where hatred is the standard."

    The coastal city has a vibrant gay scene, but open homosexuality is less welcome in conservative areas of the Jewish state.

    Poor souls.

    As one insider said

    [FONT=Book Antiqua,serif]"An LGBT (Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender) activist told Ynet that it appeared to be a "deliberate act against the gay community."[/FONT]
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    Sickening stuff. 3 dead now :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Sexy wrote: »
    In this day and age. Any one else very annoyed?

    http://twitter.com/BreakingNews

    Poor souls.

    As one insider said

    [FONT=Book Antiqua,serif]"An LGBT (Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender) activist told Ynet that it appeared to be a "deliberate act against the gay community."[/FONT]
    Gay pride in Telaviv was condemmed by both Jewish and Islamic clerics last year, so god knows who was behind it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    maybe its not anti-gay

    but just the PLO up to they're usually stuff


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,331 ✭✭✭✭bronte


    Who is responsible for this crap? :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 538 ✭✭✭Sonic_exyouth


    fryup wrote: »
    maybe its not anti-gay

    but just the PLO up to they're usually stuff

    Wow.. that makes it better :mad:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,114 ✭✭✭doctor evil


    fryup wrote: »
    maybe its not anti-gay

    but just the PLO up to they're usually stuff

    Why do you think it is the Palestinians?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭procure11


    Wow.. that makes it better :mad:

    No it doesn't and I believe that is not the what poster was insinuating.
    It would be better for the facts to come out and story made clearer before pointing accusing fingers...which I feel is the most reasonable thing to do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭procure11


    Why do you think it is the Palestinians?


    Ermmm...because historically and based on statistics most attacks of such nature have been carried out by palestinian based groups.
    Like I said earlier we cannot know for sure until we get the facts...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15 fred_1985


    You'd have to admit that being gay is fundamently just plain wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,763 ✭✭✭✭Crann na Beatha


    This post has been deleted.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,331 ✭✭✭✭bronte


    fred_1985 wrote: »
    You'd have to admit that being gay is fundamently just plain wrong.
    why in the hell would you post anything like that?
    Are you 12?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 151 ✭✭I.J.


    fred_1985 wrote: »
    You'd have to admit that being gay is fundamently just plain wrong.

    Your existence is fundamently wrong


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    fred_1985 wrote: »
    You'd have to admit that being gay is fundamently just plain wrong.

    No it isn't!

    And it's definitely not something that someone should be killed, or even beaten over!

    Being homosexual is natural, the sooner the human civilisation accept this the better. Then again, we did have trouble accepting women for ages... who knew.. we're still a learning race :(

    Things like this slaughter annoy the living sh1ts out of me:mad: Just hope it wasn't homophobically (is that the right term?) motivated. And for the sake of religon, I hope it wasn't a religious inspiration.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,448 ✭✭✭✭Cupcake_Crisis


    fred_1985 wrote: »
    You'd have to admit that being gay is fundamently just plain wrong.


    I actually cant believe you would come on to such a serious thread and post such utter sh!te. Its shocking how ignorant some people are!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,097 ✭✭✭IRISH RAIL


    A gaurd had his m16 stolen a week ago this looks like what it was for,
    shocking stuff alltogether be it homophobia or terrorism theres not much difference inbetween.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15 fred_1985


    Malty_T wrote: »
    Being homosexual is natural

    Male + Female = Baby => core reason for we are alive today. Natural

    Male + Male = abundance of erect penis => mess without product. Not Natural

    Female + Female = butch ugly cnuts. Not Natural.

    Transgender = So not natural => Not Natural.


  • Posts: 8,647 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You are equating homphobia with terrorism?Seriously?So somebody who is slightly homophobic can be compared to a terrorist?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,833 ✭✭✭✭Armin_Tamzarian


    fred_1985 wrote: »
    Male + Female = Baby => core reason for we are alive today. Natural

    Male + Male = abundance of erect penis => mess without product. Not Natural

    Female + Female = butch ugly cnuts. Not Natural.

    Transgender = So not natural => Not Natural.

    Adios


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,070 ✭✭✭✭pq0n1ct4ve8zf5


    Urgh, poor kids, can't believe somebody would actually be homophobic enough to fire a weapon into a roomful of teenagers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,448 ✭✭✭✭Cupcake_Crisis


    fred_1985 wrote: »
    Male + Female = Baby => core reason for we are alive today. Natural

    Male + Male = abundance of erect penis => mess without product. Not Natural

    Female + Female = butch ugly cnuts. Not Natural.

    Transgender = So not natural => Not Natural.

    The phrase 'attention seeker' springs to mind.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,331 ✭✭✭✭bronte


    fred_1985 wrote: »
    Male + Female = Baby => core reason for we are alive today. Natural

    Male + Male = abundance of erect penis => mess without product. Not Natural

    Female + Female = butch ugly cnuts. Not Natural.

    Transgender = So not natural => Not Natural.

    Get off boards tbh!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    fred_1985 wrote: »
    'Silly equation'=> core reason for we are alive today. Natural

    Really, it's not just in humans ya know?

    What makes you sure, that the core reason we are alive today is going to be one of tomorrow?

    What if homosexuality is natures way of preparing us for, well, you know self fertilisation or something, only partner needed to have the offspring, for say, if populations were to become scarce.. okay I'm waffling..

    but like it or not
    Homosexuality is Natural
    Isn't there supposed to be a 1 in 10,000 chance that any offspring will be homosexual or something..:confused: ...it's late I'm off to bed..nah screw it a coffee'll do.

    Oh, and I'll bet you didn't know that if the process of life was truly natural then only females would actually exist. Evolution is amazingly weird; we all start out as females whether we like it or not :)


  • Posts: 8,647 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Just to add, it is terribly sad just I don't see how terrorism and homophobia are simular.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,070 ✭✭✭✭pq0n1ct4ve8zf5


    Yes homophobia is way worse


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    The phrase 'attention seeker' springs to mind.
    I was gonna go with "troll", tbh...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭procure11


    fred_1985 wrote: »
    You'd have to admit that being gay is fundamently just plain wrong.

    But so is adultery,fornication,stealing ,lieing,backbiting,being judgemental etc etc...and this are sins committed by millions world over every single second.
    I am a christain and I am very proud of it ....but I would never condone killing another human being because I disagree with his/her choices in life...but most importantly I have absolutely no right to destroy what I cannot create...most especially in the name of God...that would be pretty daft...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭Splendour


    I don't care what the reasons where for this atrocity, be they religious, political or homophobic, it's very very sad. There are now three families who have lost a loved one. God love them...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,448 ✭✭✭✭Cupcake_Crisis


    Malty_T wrote: »
    Really?

    What makes you sure, what was the core reason we are alive today is going the be one of tomorrow?

    What if homosexuality is natures way of preparing us for, well, you self fertilisation, only partner needed to have the offspring, for say, if populations were to become scarce.. okay I'm waffling..

    but like it not
    Homosexuality is Natural
    Isn't there supposed to be a 1 in 10,000 chance that any offspring will be homosexual or something..:confused: ...it's late I'm off to bed.

    Oh, and I'll bet you didn't know that if the process of was truly natural then only females would actually exist. Evolution is amazingly weird; we all start out as females whether we like it or not :)

    While i agree with what your saying, i think you might aswell be talking to a brick wall!! Theres no educating that kind of fool. He should be banned by now anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    "We have joined the roster of 'civilised' countries where hatred is the standard."

    Eh? They're living in Israel.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,833 ✭✭✭✭Armin_Tamzarian


    Malty_T wrote: »

    What if homosexuality is natures way of preparing us for, well, you know self fertilisation or something.

    Pfft, that's nothing new.
    Sure I've been self fertilisin for years.:cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15 fred_1985


    A lot of back seat mods here...shame on you all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    fred_1985 wrote: »
    A lot of back seat mods here...shame on you all.

    Shame on you and your bigoted views.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 142 ✭✭welcomeinjam


    It says 3 dead but it goes on to say that just a male and a female were killed. Now I'm not very good at maths but..........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    While i agree with what your saying, i think you might aswell be talking to a brick wall!! Theres no educating that kind of fool. He should be banned by now anyway.

    *Sigh*, you're right, but we've got to make those walls transparent somehow :(

    Anyhow, I hope the catch the perps who did this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,859 ✭✭✭✭Sharpshooter


    fred_1985 wrote: »
    Male + Female = Baby => core reason for we are alive today. Natural

    Male + Male = abundance of erect penis => mess without product. Not Natural

    Female + Female = butch ugly cnuts. Not Natural.

    Transgender = So not natural => Not Natural.
    fred_1985 wrote: »
    A lot of back seat mods here...shame on you all.

    Banned.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭procure11


    Confab wrote: »
    Eh? They're living in Israel.

    Errm...I dont understand your post....because if we look at it contextually...Homosexuals can get married in Israel and abortion is very legal...as opposed to Ireland.

    If we then extrapolate that into your assertion ...which of the two countries is civilised?????:eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,558 ✭✭✭netwhizkid


    Very sad and RIP to all those involved. One poster commented about BRUNO, I saw the movie and it really mocked Islam and Islamofacism seriosuly. I would not be surprised if this is some sort of revenge attack on the Gays out there because of that Movie. "Bruno" Cohen is actually a Jew hence the connection. Jeez they are only kids regardless of their sexuality, disgraceful stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 142 ✭✭welcomeinjam


    netwhizkid wrote: »
    Very sad and RIP to all those involved. One poster commented about BRUNO, I saw the movie and it really mocked Islam and Islamofacism seriosuly. I would not be surprised if this is some sort of revenge attack on the Gays out there because of that Movie. "Bruno" Cohen is actually a Jew hence the connection. Jeez they are only kids regardless of their sexuality, disgraceful stuff.

    Thats a really ridiculous assumption to make. I mean to just speculate that the movie is to blame is really annoying. If someone is that much on the edge that they would shoot and kill people for the simple fact that they're gay would mean that a film is hardy the thing that pushed them to do it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭procure11


    netwhizkid wrote: »
    Very sad and RIP to all those involved. One poster commented about BRUNO, I saw the movie and it really mocked Islam and Islamofacism seriosuly. I would not be surprised if this is some sort of revenge attack on the Gays out there because of that Movie. "Bruno" Cohen is actually a Jew hence the connection. Jeez they are only kids regardless of their sexuality, disgraceful stuff.

    I haven't watched Bruno neither do I intend to..strictly because I have never found him funny.Still,it would be no justification for such an atrousious act.
    If the film Bruno is the reason for such meaningless killings..(which I doubt)...it goes a long way to show we as humans have a long way to go in terms of civility and perception.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,558 ✭✭✭netwhizkid


    Thats a really ridiculous assumption to make. I mean to just speculate that the movie is to blame is really annoying. If someone is that much on the edge that they would shoot and kill people for the simple fact that they're gay would mean that a film is hardy the thing that pushed them to do it.

    You'd be surprised, out there. The book "The Satanic Verses" by Salman Rushdie caused uproar in the Middle East.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 142 ✭✭welcomeinjam


    netwhizkid wrote: »
    You'd be surprised, out there. The book "The Satanic Verses" by Salman Rushdie caused uproar in the Middle East.

    Don't get me wrong I'm aware that the simplest things can cause uproar but not to that extent. That would cause some preplanning.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭procure11


    netwhizkid wrote: »
    You'd be surprised, out there. The book "The Satanic Verses" by Salman Rushdie caused uproar in the Middle East.


    I respectfully fault your comparison.

    Rushdie was a practising muslim for years and as a result of his experience was able to make a personal conclusion about the ills of Islam.His postulations were real ( in his own opinion or knowledge)...as opposed to a comedial feature BRUNO... the author's intentions is mostly based on the possibility of commercial success as opposed to personal convictions.

    I would agree with you if readers/watchers couldn't make a distinction...but that would not in anyway be the authors duty/prerogative.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,558 ✭✭✭netwhizkid


    Don't get me wrong I'm aware that the simplest things can cause uproar but not to that extent. That would cause some preplanning.

    Agreed, hopefully it is the work of some lone nutjob and not a terrorist cell, I know an Israeli (jewish) fella and they seem grand people altogether. The thing unusual is that Israel has been pretty quite since Hezbollah and themselves kicked the crap out of each other 2 years ago, I hope things are not going to descend into conflict like a few years ago out there again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    Banned.

    Naturally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,470 ✭✭✭DonJose


    This could get nasty, there are rumours going around Tel Aviv about a group of gays seeking revenge, roadblocks have been set up in the search for suicide bummers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭procure11


    DonJose wrote: »
    This could get nasty, there are rumours going around Tel Aviv about a group of gays seeking revenge, roadblocks have been set up in the search for suicide bummers.

    Unbelievable....your source?...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,470 ✭✭✭DonJose


    procure11 wrote: »
    Unbelievable....your source?...

    LOL, you're kidding right!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,148 ✭✭✭✭KnifeWRENCH


    Terrible story. :(
    procure11 wrote: »
    Unbelievable....your source?...

    Um...you might wanna read his post again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,470 ✭✭✭DonJose


    Terrible story. :(



    Um...you might wanna read his post again.

    It is After Hours ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭procure11


    DonJose wrote: »
    LOL, you're kidding right!!!

    Why would I be ?

    You made a claim.I was just asking where you got your info from.Do you live in Israel...or do you have relatives there?...honest question...

    why do ask ? btw..

    I just noticed its Ah....:o


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