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Higher Level Maths 2009(Paper 1): How was it for you?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,227 ✭✭✭awhir


    for Q7(c) (ii) if u said that the tangents were asemptotes and there for if they were perpendicular one would cut the an axis which is impossible for an assemptoe.

    would that get me anything ? :P


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,440 ✭✭✭✭Piste


    Actually for the same question, to prove that no tangents wer perpendicular I just subbed in two points and was like "eh yeah, these aren't perpendicular...>_>" which was a bit sketchy but I was hoping I'd get at least SOMETHING.

    Also anyone remember the part in Q4 about an expression for the middle term of the series? How did you get it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 435 ✭✭~Candy~


    awhir wrote: »
    for Q7(c) (ii) if u said that the tangents were asemptotes and there for if they were perpendicular one would cut the an axis which is impossible for an assemptoe.

    would that get me anything ? :P


    lol..that's excually what i wrote...woohooo...not sure if its right but i am with you :D

    hmm but i got the limits wrong...silly mistake -___-


  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭AndyWhite


    After a small bit of tidying up, divide x+(1-c) into x^2+(5c-5)x-6b^2

    You'll end up getting something like -6b^2+(6c-6)=0 (that's not what i came up with i'm just too lazy to do it again :P) or something like that. It didn't really work out for me at the very end, but apparently it didn't for the majority of people.

    Thats what i got too. you just had to move it around a bit then and get c in terms of b.


  • Registered Users Posts: 334 ✭✭meathawk


    For question 4(c) part ii the one where you have to find the middle term
    what I did was (2m+1)/2 and let that equal to n

    so it'd be U(2m+1)/2=ar^n-1
    then I just subbed in for n and got ar^m-1/2


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 884 ✭✭✭ya-ba-da-ba-doo


    U could use factor thrm for Q1c, although i said c+1 was a factor when it should have been c-1.. :( anyone know will i just get a blunder or will loads be taken off seein that its at the start of the question?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,532 ✭✭✭WolfForager


    U could use factor thrm for Q1c, although i said c+1 was a factor when it should have been c-1.. :( anyone know will i just get a blunder or will loads be taken off seein that its at the start of the question?

    By factor you mean root right? c-1 is a root whilse x-c+1 is a factor.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 884 ✭✭✭ya-ba-da-ba-doo


    By factor you mean root right? c-1 is a root whilse x-c+1 is a factor.

    Sorry, meant root, as in i put f(c+1)=0 and solved when it should have been f(c-1)=0... Hopefully its just a blunder im kicking myself over it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,642 ✭✭✭andyman


    There was no misprint ffs.

    Ok, ok calm down! Sorry I didn't read 12 pages of a boards.ie thread when I've an English exam in the morning :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 404 ✭✭Antamojo


    F*ck that, I'll have to pull off a miracle on Paper II to try and get C or at least a pass.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 51 ✭✭nDakota


    It's been a while since i thought about the exam, and for good reasons
    Q1 should be a 50/50
    Q2 was nice up until the C part where i was completely thrown
    Q3 not the complex numbers i revised
    Q6 c(ii) is my only real concern there
    Q7 bit sketchy in areas especially the C part involving Anne and Barry. I'm glad im the not the only one who felt like swapping the names around to make my answer look more attractive
    Q8 ... cant even remember, dont think i did great, didn know the proof but i did do a nice sketch of a cone:) and i nearly got b(ii) out just kept getting stuck.

    All in all.. not great but not bad.. hope paper 2 is handy to bring up the marks


  • Registered Users Posts: 46 bstoran


    thing about the asymptote question was that dy/dx (tangent to curve) was -2 over a squared term.....ie any value wood b minus....minus by minus cant equal -1 for perpendicular!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 193 ✭✭straight_As


    meathawk wrote: »
    For question 4(c) part ii the one where you have to find the middle term
    what I did was (2m+1)/2 and let that equal to n

    so it'd be U(2m+1)/2=ar^n-1
    then I just subbed in for n and got ar^m-1/2

    Would the middle term not just be (m+1)th term?

    m terms before and m terms after?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭xOxSinéadxOx


    bstoran wrote: »
    thing about the asymptote question was that dy/dx (tangent to curve) was -2 over a squared term.....ie any value wood b minus....minus by minus cant equal -1 for perpendicular!!!

    sounds right to me!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 145 ✭✭galway.gaa


    bstoran wrote: »
    thing about the asymptote question was that dy/dx (tangent to curve) was -2 over a squared term.....ie any value wood b minus....minus by minus cant equal -1 for perpendicular!!!
    i said the exact same thing for that:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11 Nimur90


    timmywex wrote: »
    Just back in now, did all the questions,

    thought in general it was grand. Few tricky parts.


    Question 1 and 2, the very end of them was tricky to get as required.


    Made a slip on c part 1 in question 3,


    Question 4 part c was tricky enough. Confusingly phrased


    Question 5 part c had a complex change of base, i got it but i imagine alot didnt even notice it!.

    Question 6 was grand in general

    Question 7 was slightly confusing in part c i would think

    Question 8 was grand.


    Hopefully got an A1 in the paper overall!:cool:

    You did all the questions??? The whole thing was grand except for question 3. How the hell do you do that integration question on complex numbers? ah well its over now...


  • Registered Users Posts: 4 Crocodilius


    Sweet wrote: »
    For 2(c) I got q>-36/5. Anyone able to confirm this?!

    Yeah, i think it worked out that q^2 = 36r/5 so q = at least 6/(5)^1/2 as r is a positive integer. that's what i got but it probably is wrong. I tried to work the question out using undetermined coefficients, is that what you did?


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