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If Gods existence was proven...

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 444 ✭✭goldenbrown


    God here,


    I have a lot going in a lot of universes, and if I had to hold your hand all the time how would my universes expand?

    get over yourselves and get on with it,

    look for a book called the bible and you will find plenty of guidance,

    especially the work done by some chums of my son, my own favourite would be the letters of Paul, and his lines (if i had to choose)


    'be not overcome by evil...but overcome evil with good..

    gotta go - love ya


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭Overblood


    funny^


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 120 ✭✭smileykey


    If God was proven to exist and was really the good being its supposed to be then why would it expect us to worship him? If she/he didn't expect it I wouldn't be bothered and if she/he did I definately wouln't. I guess you could say I don't do worship.

    You're poll isn't quite right, many non christian religions believe in God. Your poll assumes that the God that's proven is the god as christians define him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 444 ✭✭goldenbrown


    God back again,

    you know guys I would be more comfortable if you were to send some of that worship towards those who are vulnerable, marginalised, struggling.....I really am all set in terms of worship..

    after all everyone is created in my image, and all are equal to me,

    sometimes the big worship vibe looks more like the worshipper marvelling at their own good taste and judgement and less about......how can I put this... that even a guy born in a stable to humble kin being very important...

    one big worshipper, well known to you all, lives in a huge building with gold everywhere...what is that about?

    that bible I mentioned recently is often rewritten and updated- even as recently as today, here is a good example from one of your daily newspapers:

    'Let me explain.

    I think part of the outrage over the abuse of children in residential institutions, as revealed by the Ryan report, centres on the humiliation, degradation and belittlement of the children, the treatment of them as though they did not matter. Yes, the sexual and physical abuse was horrendous also, but, in many ways, these abuses arose from the mindset that the children did not matter.

    It would not have crossed the minds of the abusers that the children were human beings who had equal entitlement to respect and concern as they themselves.

    Yes, that was atrocious, but isn’t our society built around a similar disrespect, humiliation and belittlement? There is little in our political culture – indeed our social culture – that regards people as equal , except in a formal legal sense of equal before the law. The hundreds of thousands of people who live in the poorer areas of our cities, who earn a fraction of the average income of us Irish Times readers and a tiny fraction of what the top earners earn, by any standard – are they treated and regarded as “equal”? How is it that their subsistence gets cut – the Christmas social welfare bonus – at a time when many people (ie us) still can afford lavish holidays, fancy cars, yachts, fine homes, Brown Thomas clothes and accessories? How is it that further diminution in their resources is being planned as part of the coming budget, when all of the necessary adjustments could be achieved by taxing everyone earning over €80,000 at around 35 per cent of their total income – when taking all taxes into account?

    It isn’t the poverty that is so important – although for many it is hugely so – it is the social status. People who earn relatively little are afflicted with low social status. They come way down the pecking order, and that matters hugely. It matters in terms of respect, or rather disrespect, in terms of belittlement, in terms of humiliation. The belittlement comes across in all kinds of social interactions that convey the distinctions between the “masters” and “servants”, between the elite and the disregarded.

    People down the ladder of social status die earlier, they have poorer health, inferior education, far worse life chances, and they are belittled by programmes designed to “lift” them out of their predicament, whereas it is society that needs to be lifted out of its endemic inequality.

    What is needed is not just a few initiatives to improve chances in education, or better access to healthcare, or a bit better policing. What is needed is a structural change to our society. Where equality means what it means – not in terms of opportunity (which is fairly vacuous), but in terms of outcome.

    The only hope is that those committed to genuine equality mobilise themselves and begin a campaign to explain how we can create a far better, fairer and happier society than we have had. A campaign to persuade people to opt for equality, a campaign that explains how equality can lead to a happier and more stable society, based on equality, free social co-operation and mutual respect.

    That will not happen of its own accord, nor will it happen by the jockeying for position that has characterised much of left-wing politics for so long.'

    V Browne, Irish Times 10.6.09


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    goldenbrown, this thread is dealing with a specific topic, and you are posting completely irrelevant diatribes and unrelated IT articles.

    I suggest you find something on-topic to post about, or start a new thread if you think you have something interesting to discuss. Thanking you.


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