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Your Views On The BNP

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    #272
    Sam Vimes
    Registered Users Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    RaverRo808 wrote: »
    No your not getting me,I dont recognise the Irish Defence forces as the official army to represent Ireland,therefore I dont hold any regard for them or what they do,If they were any sort of Irish army they would have been up North during the troubles when the British Army,RUC and Loyalist militias were burning fellow Irish people from their homes and interning them without trial,instead they sat there and watched,the IRA is Ireland real army in my view,this state and its army may fly the flag,but that doesnt mean they represent it

    You mean that the Irish Defence forces should have invaded the UK, thereby declaring war? You like the idea of tanks on O'Connell street then do you?


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    #273
    RaverRo808
    Closed Accounts Posts: 677 ✭✭✭RaverRo808


    O'Coonassa wrote: »
    But this gets more confusing. The nation you claim to belong most certainly supports its armed forces and the flag they fly. You appear to be claiming that the majority of your nation are actually somehow fake and that you are the genuine article. Given this dichotomy surely you can begin to see that nationalism is mere made up nonsense.

    I personally dont have any time or recognition for this state or its army,I think if you asked most people nowadays of what they about this state at present they'd tell you its a scambles,and the defence force,what do we need them for,we are a tiny island nation of 5 to 6 million people,who are firmly neutral what do we need them for?


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    #274
    RaverRo808
    Closed Accounts Posts: 677 ✭✭✭RaverRo808


    Sam Vimes wrote: »
    You mean that the Irish Defence forces should have invaded the UK, thereby declaring war? You like the idea of tanks on O'Connell street then do you?


    No they should have defended the North of Ireland,and I dont like the idea of tanks on O'Connel Street as much as dislike the idea of armoured cars,jeeps and army helicopters on the streets of Antrim,Down,Derry,Tyrone,Armagh and Fermanagh


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    #275
    Sam Vimes
    Registered Users Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    RaverRo808 wrote: »
    I personally dont have any time or recognition for this state or its army,I think if you asked most people nowadays of what they about this state at present they'd tell you its a scambles,and the defence force,what do we need them for,we are a tiny island nation of 5 to 6 million people,who are firmly neutral what do we need them for?

    In case we get invaded, for national emergencies and for peace keeping missions


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    #276
    RaverRo808
    Closed Accounts Posts: 677 ✭✭✭RaverRo808


    Sam Vimes wrote: »
    In case we get invaded, for national emergencies and for peace keeping missions

    We were invaded and are currently still militarily occupied by the British army and its imposed security services,and why werent the 'Irish army' deployed to keep the peace when the people of the six counties were under the threat of genocide by British forces and Loyalist pograms???


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    #277
    Sam Vimes
    Registered Users Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    RaverRo808 wrote: »
    We were invaded and are currently still militarily occupied by the British army and its imposed security services,and why werent the 'Irish army' deployed to keep the peace when the people of the six counties were under the threat of genocide by British forces and Loyalist pograms???

    The 6 counties are part of the UK, the Republic of Ireland is not militarily occupied. And the Irish army weren't deployed to the north because that would have been an invasion of the UK and an act of war. Legally there is no difference between the Irish army going into Belfast and going into London


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    #278
    RaverRo808
    Closed Accounts Posts: 677 ✭✭✭RaverRo808


    Sam Vimes wrote: »
    The 6 counties are part of the UK, the Republic of Ireland is not militarily occupied. And the Irish army weren't deployed to the north because that would have been an invasion of the UK and an act of war. Legally there is no difference between the Irish army going into Belfast and going into London

    Does it bother you that fellow Irishman,who live 3 or hours up the road from you,are living under British rule,and that these same fellow Irishmen have had to endure the indiginity of been treated as second class citizens in the country they belong and of their birth,that they have had to endure,patrols on their streets by a foreign army,being interned unjustly purely for being nationalist and catholic by a British police force,have Loyalist mobs backed by the RUC burn their homes out,have their children forced to go to school being called 'taigs','fenians',and all manner of sectarian slurs,by hordes of facist thugs,and I assume you call youself Irish,does it not touch a nerve that your country is split in two,partly occupied by a foreign power,is there any patriotism in you at all that this makes your blood boil just a little???


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    #279
    O'Coonassa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭O'Coonassa


    RaverRo808 wrote: »
    I personally dont have any time or recognition for this state

    How then can you claim to be an Irish Nationalist when the vast majority of the Irish collective do give allegiance to their national state?


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    #280
    RaverRo808
    Closed Accounts Posts: 677 ✭✭✭RaverRo808


    O'Coonassa wrote: »
    How then can you claim to be an Irish Nationalist when the vast majority of the Irish collective do give allegiance to their national state?

    Im an Irish republican and would be slightly on the left,Ive no time for nationalism
    ,and Id say its more a case of the vast majority do not care about the state nevermind giving it allegiance


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    #281
    CiaranC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,300 ✭✭✭CiaranC


    BNP


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    #282
    Sam Vimes
    Registered Users Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    RaverRo808 wrote: »
    Does it bother you that fellow Irishman,who live 3 or hours up the road from you,are living under British rule,
    nope
    RaverRo808 wrote: »
    and that these same fellow Irishmen have had to endure the indiginity of been treated as second class citizens in the country they belong and of their birth,that they have had to endure,patrols on their streets by a foreign army,being interned unjustly purely for being nationalist and catholic by a British police force,have Loyalist mobs backed by the RUC burn their homes out,have their children forced to go to school being called 'taigs','fenians',and all manner of sectarian slurs,by hordes of facist thugs,
    That bothers me a little but that doesn't happen anymore and it's not a justification for starting a war against the UK which we would be guaranteed to lose
    RaverRo808 wrote: »
    and I assume you call youself Irish,does it not touch a nerve that your country is split in two,partly occupied by a foreign power,
    nope
    RaverRo808 wrote: »
    is there any patriotism in you at all that this makes your blood boil just a little???
    Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it.

    I think the world would be better off without it


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    #283
    javaboy
    Registered Users Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    BNP


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    #284
    javaboy
    Registered Users Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    BNP


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    #285
    javaboy
    Registered Users Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    BNP


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    #286
    javaboy
    Registered Users Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    BNP


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    #287
    javaboy
    Registered Users Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    BNP


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    #288
    javaboy
    Registered Users Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    BNP


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    #289
    javaboy
    Registered Users Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    BNP


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    #290
    javaboy
    Registered Users Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    BNP


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    #291
    javaboy
    Registered Users Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    BNP


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    #292
    javaboy
    Registered Users Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    BNP


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    #293
    javaboy
    Registered Users Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    BNP


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    #294
    javaboy
    Registered Users Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    BNP


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    #295
    javaboy
    Registered Users Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    BNP


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    #296
    javaboy
    Registered Users Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    BNP


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    #297
    javaboy
    Registered Users Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    BNP


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    #298
    javaboy
    Registered Users Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    BNP


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    #299
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    javaboy wrote: »
    BNP

    Please type a bit slower, I can't read that quickly!!


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    #300
    O'Coonassa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭O'Coonassa


    RaverRo808 wrote: »
    Ive no time for nationalism

    Me neither, that's why I don't like the BNP or people like that.


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    #301
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    javaboy wrote: »
    BNP

    BNP?


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