Pete Doherty on the Late Late Show

hatful

Pete Doherty was just on the late late show. Although I'm not a Libertines or Babyshambles fan.
I was embarrassed at the poor questions that were asked by Pat.
There was one about Kate Moss and then about nine about drugs .. How can you be a role model? Why are you doing this? Your poor family etc
Short from pulling pete into the conversation, he leaned back in his chair at one point looking bored and pulled his hat down. At the end of the interview Pete said something along the lines of "where do I go to collect my money" and then said he was joking, no he bloody wasn't it was pathetic.

The researchers should be shot, I could have done a better job, really could they not sit down with a biography for four hours in a coffee shop rather than four minutes with the daily star? How much are these researchers being paid?

At one point Pete said to Pat I bet you can't name one of my songs to which Pat blurbled "probably not" Jonathan Ross whenever he has a musician on always mentions a song he's heard or that he's listened to their recent album and talks about a song he liked briefly. Not Pat, no he's too good for that. A researcher could have told Pat the name of the most recent album or something surely...

misty floyd

People are gonna say 'He's all about drugs and thats what he is famous for' but I'm not buying that. First off, I don't like Pete Doherty's music so I'm not the 'I'm a massive fan and don't say anything about Pete' type. The fact is, stories of musicians and their drug habits ARE boring. I mean, tons of musicians have ruined their lives with drugs.....but its old news. Kenny just turned it into a wasted opportunity for an interesting interview. Plank.

lordgoat

I only saw a few mins of this but will be watching the repeat. I'm a big Pete fan and from what i've heard so far this is just another reason to despise Pat Kenny and RTE. Remember we the tax payer pay for his 600k a year salary and he could not tell you one thing about one of his guests bar he uses drugs and went out with Kate Moss. And of course the obligatory - how can we nationalise the person being interviewed. From the little i saw of this i'm embarassed by it. I dread to watch the full thing.

Samurai

yeah its crazy what pat earns considering the average joe could do a far better job

CSC

I liked the song Pete sang "The last of the English roses".

lordgoat

Bugger, i didn't see him singing.

KnifeWRENCH

Didn't see it, but I can imagine it being car crash TV. Might watch the repeat if I catch it.
I've no particular like or dislike for Pete Doherty and I only know a few Libertines/Babyshambles song but he is a very interesting character. I would have tuned in if I thought he'd get a half decent interview.

lordgoat wrote: »

I'm a big Pete fan and from what i've heard so far this is just another reason to despise Pat Kenny and RTE. Remember we the tax payer pay for his 600k a year salary and he could not tell you one thing about one of his guests bar he uses drugs and went out with Kate Moss.

His salary, depressingly, is even higher than that.
He gets €849139 a year (according to the Independent) and even with a proposed 10% paycut he'll still be getting over 750k!
I mean he seems like a nice enough guy (unless you squabble with him over land) but he has no charisma and is hopeless at interviews.

Qprmeath

I thought Pat asked the hard questions. On a show like The Late Late with a mixed audience there was no point in getting in to a discussion of Petes music. Jonathan Ross just maks jokes with his guests on a show which is never live. Doherty is a complex character, one I doubt will ever be called normal. I dont think his demons are ever far away. He summed up his own problems at the end by asking Pat did he know any of his songs? We should all know his music but because of all the other stuff it never gets a mention. At least Pete has the good sense to be a Qpr fan thugh!

lordgoat

Qprmeath wrote: »

I thought Pat asked the hard questions. On a show like The Late Late with a mixed audience there was no point in getting in to a discussion of Petes music. Jonathan Ross just maks jokes with his guests on a show which is never live. Doherty is a complex character, one I doubt will ever be called normal. I dont think his demons are ever far away. He summed up his own problems at the end by asking Pat did he know any of his songs? We should all know his music but because of all the other stuff it never gets a mention. At least Pete has the good sense to be a Qpr fan thugh!

Hard questions? Drugs and Kate Moss? Boring mundane and at least 2 years old. From what i've watched and i haven't seen it all there was not one question about anything recent or new. And the way he asked Kenny about if he knew any of his songs was not summing up his problems it was - you know nothing about me, are a complete tool and i don't want to talk to you anymore. Anyone could see that. The interview Doherty did with Ross a while back was much more revealing and the questions were well thought out and hard hitting.

Oh and the fact Kenny earns even more money than i previously thought has ruined my saturday morning.

graveshiftd

I watched the interview last night and well thats what it was, an interview. I mean you have to put it into context, Pat Kenny doesn't do funny, jovial interviews like Jonathan Ross and he did ask some hard and uncomfortable questions, but what other way was he ever going to do it? Would you prefer had he acted like he knew his music and and serenaded him with questions like "do you see yourself as the 21 century Dylan?". That would have been far more cringe inducing stuff, we have all seen it before, Pat trying to be jokey, its like seeing your mother having 3 sherries and getting up dancing at a wedding, hard to watch, oh the mental scars!
So, in summary, I don't think we should chastise Pat for doing what he is able to do because the alternative would be much worse.

lordgoat

graveshiftd wrote: »

So, in summary, I don't think we should chastise Pat for doing what he is able to do because the alternative would be much worse.

What exactly are you claiming he is able to do? Interview people really badly? Yes he can do that. To me, having no knowledge of a guest on your tv show shows nothing but contempt and arrogance. The idea of an interview is to gain an insight into the person being interviewed no? I have never seen him achieve this with any of his guests, and this was particularly obvious last night.

While he night not be everyone cup of tea either Ryan Tubridy actually asks decent questions and trys to engage his guests. The exact opposite is true of G Ryan. THe man is a one man side show where all he cares about is his own image.

The best person on irish tv is John Kelly, the view is always well researched and presented and should get alot more credit than it currently does.

lordgoat

And the hard questions he asked? What about his drug addiction and family, please he's answered these countless times in the past, i don't think there was anything hardhitting about them. Water off a duck.

FionnBaguh

Seriously, that interview was the most embarrassing thing I've ever seen on tv. Pat Kenny really embraced the, Pete is a heroin addict and has ruined his life and I'm gonna make him realize it role. WTF is that guys problem? All the drug and Kate Moss questions are completely 2-3years ago. Get over it.

It was suggested that the late late is inappropriate to hae a guest like Pete Doherty. I disagree. If the late late is to have any future, it will get guests like Pete on, and get the younger generations tuning in, not just the aul ones who watch merely by habit and have nothing better to do.

Pat Kenny should really get the sack. He's desperate. I've seen too many interviews he's done that were poorly researched, boring and plain embarrassing. In comparisonI watched the interview Gay Byrne did with Noel Gallagher in 1994. That was a great interview, at a time when Oasis were really using drugs and telling everyone, there was maybe one drug question, Gay really got into and so did Noel, it was like a watching a real heart to heart conversation. The interview Pat did with Liam Gallagher in 2003, was pretty awful aswell, Pat didnt even realize when he was joking or being sarcastic.

Pat is a joke.

orangewolf

I too was embarrased by Pat Kenny's lack of preperation for the Pete Doherty interview. The Late Late Show's producers show the same contempt for the Irish population by giving Eoghan Harris a soap box. "Sure we've never had it so good" what nonsense.

graveshiftd

lordgoat wrote: »

What exactly are you claiming he is able to do? Interview people really badly? Yes he can do that. To me, having no knowledge of a guest on your tv show shows nothing but contempt and arrogance. The idea of an interview is to gain an insight into the person being interviewed no? I have never seen him achieve this with any of his guests, and this was particularly obvious last night.

While he night not be everyone cup of tea either Ryan Tubridy actually asks decent questions and trys to engage his guests. The exact opposite is true of G Ryan. THe man is a one man side show where all he cares about is his own image.

The best person on irish tv is John Kelly, the view is always well researched and presented and should get alot more credit than it currently does.

I see your point but my arguement was that was the only outcome that was ever going to come out of that interview, thats Pat. He does it week in week out and im not arguing the success of his interview last night but that he is a capable seroius interviewer and thats where he directed the interview, to his strengths.

mrmldy

graveshiftd wrote: »

I see your point but my arguement was that was the only outcome that was ever going to come out of that interview, thats Pat. He does it week in week out and im not arguing the success of his interview last night but that he is a capable seroius interviewer and thats where he directed the interview, to his strengths.

I agree. Pat isnt worth €800,000, but he has his strengths like talking to Eamonn Dunphy and Co. later on ( he's more comfortable with that topic and it shows, its more like his radio show). He's suited to interviewing current affairs people not "celebrities" like pete doherty, That more Ryan Tubridys area. He had no interest in him and it shows.He like most people who watched the late late dont know much else about him other than kate moss and drugs, if anything at all (not saying this excuses him for lazy interviewing).

And what was with the awful camera man for pete doherty. the zoom out button must have been broken. It was sooo annoying, esp when he was singing, it was just a camera full of hat cos he kept moving!!

lordgoat

graveshiftd wrote: »

I see your point but my arguement was that was the only outcome that was ever going to come out of that interview, thats Pat. He does it week in week out and im not arguing the success of his interview last night but that he is a capable seroius interviewer and thats where he directed the interview, to his strengths.

So you are saying he is capable of doing a good interview but it depends on his guest? To me that's a kop out. It's just pure laziness and arrogance of the highest order. In my opinion he has zero personality and can not relate to the majority of his guests. Toy Show anyone? At least every episode i've seen of the late late this has happened with one of the guests.

Dudess

Moved from Alternative & Indie.
TV mods, could this be merged with the existing Late Late Show/Pete Doherty thread?

Thanks

mrmldy

lordgoat wrote: »

So you are saying he is capable of doing a good interview but it depends on his guest? To me that's a kop out. It's just pure laziness and arrogance of the highest order. In my opinion he has zero personality and can not relate to the majority of his guests. Toy Show anyone? At least every episode i've seen of the late late this has happened with one of the guests.

yeah thats what I'm saying. I'm not saying thats a good thing. of course its not, I agree with you, but they arent going to fire him, he;s not going to leave and no ones gonna make him change. Its already been 10 years. Personally I prefer ryan tubridy for interviewing even tho he has his flaws too.

Posy

I love how shocked Pat was that Pete Doherty has a school education. You did your A-Levels?! You were pretty clever but you still ended up on drugs, wow! (you know because over here only illiterate wasters end up with a drug problem..)
Oh Pat.. :rolleyes:

Posy

lordgoat wrote: »

I'm a big Pete fan

God, for a minute I thought that said big Pat fan.
*feels faint

Pigman II

Only one question needed to be asked by Pat and that is "why do we live in a world where people waste their time, money and breath on talentless, has-been junkies such as yourself?" Would have been a short interview but at least it might have increased (or even started) my appreciation for the LLS.

xOxSinéadxOx

why does pat kenny get paid that kind of money? and can us taxpayers who pay his big fat salary not decide we don't want him?

Diarmey

Will there be any more repeats of this?

holly1

xOxSinéadxOx wrote: »

why does pat kenny get paid that kind of money? and can us taxpayers who pay his big fat salary not decide we don't want him?

I agree 100%Sinead,he is a boaring sod.
Did anyone notice the dirt of Pete,s nails:eek:.

JonathanAnon

Hi I agree with most of the above.

I think everybody knows at this stage that Pat is a very limited interviewer. He is excellent on the political stuff, and is very well prepared (almost to the point of knowing more about the subject than the person he is interviewing).

He CANNOT interview particular types of guests... comedians, younger musicians and the like. Anything where a bit of humour might be needed.

He should have noticed how much he was pissing of Pete Doherty, and changed the line of questioning. Instead he persisted with the drug questioning, and when asked to change, he changed to the one other thing that Pete would get asked about most.

I also always find his generic "I listened to your album during the week and thought it was excellent" which applies for all musicians that he has on the show. Comes across as insincere.

They should have put Petula Clark on the Late Late Show and swopped Pete on to Tubridy, although their schedules prob would not have allowed this.

ihatepatkenny

truly excruciating tv. PK and the Late, Late are a total disgrace to the nation - the lack of research, a waste of a great guest, the cringy fan in the audience, the complete absence of tact, the simpering "what's the irish connection" question...shudder, shudder, shudder, shudder. Anyone up for a "fire pat kenny" protest outside RTE?

UNDER-ACHIEVER

Pat Kenny is a shambles. His status as an experienced interviewer was completely destroyed last night - 06/02/2009 on the ‘Late Late Show’. He showed little interest in his so called “guest” and made a mockery out of the Irish public. He had no manners towards Pete Doherty and was completely unprepared for the show. Pat Kenny gets paid a big enough salary to at least fulfil the basic requirements of his job - to know who he is interviewing. I e-mailed RTÉ last night after watching the show and this morning I received a reply stating that it will be forwarded to the editorial team and to the ‘Late Late Show’ too. I know this means nothing and it is just an attempt to keep a "moaning" viewer content, but I would love Pat to get a “slap on the hand” for his evident faux-pas.

Pete Doherty is an iconic figure and he is evidently talented. Although his life has been scandalised in the tabloids it is obvious there is more to him than just the - “drug abuser” image. I acknowledge that it was obvious, and in some ways necessary to question Pete about his lust for drugs, and his previous relationship with Kate Moss, as it an obvious topic to start with, but this shouldn’t have been the ONLY aspect of Pete that should be emphasised. Certainly the topic should have been avoided after Pete’s clear discomfort was shown. For those people who do not know Pete apart from the “misguided” and “drug abuser” portrayal, well I believe he was disgracefully misrepresented.

Last nights show was an appalling representation of Irish television, however it just goes to show how little interest Pat has in his job and shows how “out of touch” and “out of his depth” he really is. Fair play also to the eloquent “libertine” who was not phased by the ignorance and condescending nature of his interviewer, and brilliantly put Pat in his place when he asked - "I don't know if you could name a song that I've written?", to which the clearly unprepared apparently experienced Pat could only reply: "No, possibly not." That in my opinion just goes to show how ridiculous, rude and rubbish the “Late Late Show” has become.

It really is a disgrace. I have always had a dislike towards Pat Kenny, probably this is because im only 18 and Pat is clearly from a different "school of thought" and I cannot relate to a middle-aged man, but this doesn't mean i don't understand basic manners. He was arrogant, rude and he couldn’t have made the interview anymore boring if he was even bothered to try. He needs to realise how lucky he is, to firstly have a dream job and secondly to be earning a fortune. Years of television has made him lax, maybe if rather than - when, he starts appreciating his job he will become more interested in his work. He is an utter embarrassment.

RTÉ need to "pull up their socks" and get their "thinking caps on" if they are to maintain and entice more youth to watch the show. With the ever growing choice at our disposal with sky digital and the likes, I don't believe the "Late Late Show" has much of a future. They are slowly but surely running out of steam..

Dara Ó Briain or even Tubridy would fill the role more effectively in my opinion.

Would'nt mind a FIRE PAT protest, that interview was just one more -too bad..

Leaderbored

ihatepatkenny wrote: »

Anyone up for a "fire pat kenny" protest outside RTE?

Naah. Its too cold.

Stevieo

UNDER-ACHIEVER wrote: »

I have always had a dislike towards Pat Kenny, probably this is because im only 18 and Pat is clearly from a different "school of thought" and I cannot relate to a middle-aged man...

Is that not the same attitude that (I've heard) Pat displayed to Pete? Other than that I agree with pretty much everything you say, and have to give you an extreme level of kudos for going to the trouble of complaining to the RTE nazis, with little hope of any action ever being taken.

Didn't catch the actual show but I most certainly will be watching the repeat on Tuesday night. My point revolves mostly around what others have told me, what I've read on this post and on certain news websites.

I was one of the lucky enough people to get access to the Trinity interview, and I can testify that there were plenty of risque personal topics touched on (if you haven't heard); his son and drug problems were discussed, and one person even asked "So how is it with Carl these days?". The difference is that Pete was asked these in a comfortable enviornment, where those posing the questions displayed an evident interest in and respect for the man, despite their understandings of his difficult past. From what I gather, Kenny did neither. While the former interviewees may have been Pete Doherty/Libertines/Babyshambles fans, it's not the most difficult thing to do to understand where the line is.

Pat Kenny's problem was paraded on national television last night; his lack of ability to ask original questions, ones he doesn't actually know the answrs to. When Pete took a sidestep and decided to direct the interview himself for a brief moment, Kenny was left to look like an idiot. Rightly so. The man knew that Pete was performing on his show that night!! He could of at least had the decency to learn the name of the single he was playing?

My main concern is that, despite everyone being aware of Pat Kenny's major flaws (Christmas comes early when we see him struggle with children on the Toy Show annually), nothing's going to change. The captain of a sinking ship...

Mossy Monk

Samurai wrote: »

yeah its crazy what pat earns considering the average joe could do a far better job

You could do better?

UNDER-ACHIEVER

Stevieo wrote: »

Is that not the same attitude that (I've heard) Pat displayed to Pete? ... My main concern is that, despite everyone being aware of Pat Kenny's major flaws (Christmas comes early when we see him struggle with children on the Toy Show annually), nothing's going to change. The captain of a sinking ship...

I agree that Pat clearly isn't from the "same school of thought" as Pete thats fairly obvious, but is it not Pats job to at least know the basics of who he is interviewing ? Thats surely just manners.

I disagree that anyone under the age of 50 who watches the "Late Late Show" is a "****ing loser" - as Pete was obviously not brought on the show to provide "light entertainment" for the over 65's, so there evidently is an audience of younger viewers..

I totally agree - ha, The Christmas Toy Show is excruciating, yet hilarious to watch, Pat is always totally out of his depth.. Trying to be "cool" with a bunch of 6 year olds.. He's a prat

Stevieo

UNDER-ACHIEVER wrote: »

I agree that Pat clearly isn't from the "same school of thought" as Pete thats fairly obvious, but is it not Pats job to at least know the basics of who he is interviewing ? Thats surely just manners.

Yeah, that's pretty much what I was getting at when I said he could at least have named Pete's latest single? I don't know what Pat's job is officially, but I'd put it down as the national broadcaster's premier interviewer, someone who provides the opportunity to gain a different insight into his guests, whoever they are, for an Irish audience even bigger than his paycheque. It disgusts me that someone with such experience and who holds such a high position in television can make such a balls of his job on a week to week basis, as outlined:

UNDER-ACHIEVER wrote: »

I disagree that anyone under the age of 50 who watches the "Late Late Show" is a "****ing loser"

This is RTE's (again, the national broadcaster's) highest paid personality, paid with our TV licence fees and our taxes. If they only wanted people above 50 to watch The Late Late, they wouldn't pay him nearly as much, nor would guests like Pete Doherty or Tommy Tiernan feature. Anyone who says differently, just because "the youth" tends to hit town on a Friday night to get pissed is either in denial, or in a minority; saying so is just another cop out.

ctrl-alt-delete

what annoyed me more than Pat's interview was that girl in the audience.

Pat Kenny is the reason I never watch the Late Late. How he got that job I'll never know.

Ross on the BBC is on a different level to the robot

holly8

I rem one awful radio interview he did with Sinead O'Connor a few yrs back. She handled him beautifully.

He was intent in using words of many, many sylables and those in non-everyday use. He was being as clever as possible. Cringe.

After a few minutes of ridiculous wordy questions, Sinead answered something like - now Pat, you know I don't know big words like that.

Big laugh!

apes_h

Pat Kenny is an idiot and cannot interview people. He should be fired from the show. Gerry Ryan can also be very annoying but when he did the late late show he actually wasn't that bad...pat should be fired and gerry should take his place. (cos who else will)

Also Pat Kenny does not do an research for thar programme or even write his own questions. His researcher's do it all. They should also be fired - all he asked him about was his drug use and kate moss - who cares. It was so obvious that Pat had zero respect or interest in Doherty. I don't know why RTE bosses would have some one like Pete on the show, when I orginally heard Pete was going to be on the show I thought it was a joke.

Get the boat Pat.

Aidric

Doherty isn't an interesting subject in the first place. He is a junkie who is given far more press than his talent deserves. Yes, Kenny could have made a better hand at it but I'd blame the bookers more than him.
Doherty was unhinged and withdrawn through the whole interview, I was urging it to finish as soon as it started.

UNDER-ACHIEVER

This is RTE's (again, the national broadcaster's) highest paid personality, paid with our TV licence fees and our taxes. If they only wanted people above 50 to watch The Late Late, they wouldn't pay him nearly as much, nor would guests like Pete Doherty or Tommy Tiernan feature. Anyone who says differently, just because "the youth" tends to hit town on a Friday night to get pissed is either in denial, or in a minority; saying so is just another cop out.

summed it up perfectly dude.

whoever said that in the first place is an idiot, just because you don't have an interest in the "Late Late Show" doesn't mean there is NO interest among anyone under the age of 50..

and AIDRIC, the fact that you label Pete a "junkie" in the first place just shows how ignorant some people are, your treating Pete with the same contempt that Pat did. Labelling someone a "junkie" tells you nothing about their personality, talents or achievements. And the reason he wasn't an "interesting" subject was mainly due to the fact that the interview was boring and obvious, and evidence of this can be seen on the Johnathen Ross interview which was humorous and tons more "interesting" than Pats pathetic attempt..

Regardless of whether or not you like Pete Doherty, I think its clear that Pats an out-dated tosser...

dbs_sailor

will the interview surface on the net? saw him perform last of the english roses on youtube but tbh i'd be more interested in seeing the crash and burn interview... haven't been impressed by pete doherty in a long time..

rexsavage

Im goin to go ahead and presume that Pete appeared on the show in the mindset that the interview would probably consist of one or two questions about his drug use which we had shoved in our faces by the tabloids for the last number of years. But I'm also quite confident that he also thought that the conversation might have then pressed on to the issue of his first solo album, which the last of the english roses is to be the first single from what I'v heard, that is to be realeased next month. Or maybe even to his work to date or how his flight was, or what he though about the weather we've been having!! ANYTHING other than the same question reworded and reworked in so many different ways!!:mad: The fact that Kenny managed to do that was the only thing in the interview which actually half impressed me in a strange unintentional way!

I didnt know that Pete was goin to be on the show (I tuned in for the O'Searcaigh interview which was cut from the show) and was plesently suprised when yer man Kenny boring bollox extrordinaire announced that he would be. I dont think i have ever cringed solidly for so long in my life.

I know that girl in the crowd was loud, annoying, childish etc. etc. but i have a feeling that had she been put in Kennys seat the interview would have been half interesting! I know alot of people don't like pete doherty cos he's a "junkie" and i doubt that the interview did alot to sway them, but I mean at least he had the decency to answer the questions for as long as he did, he tried to make a few funny comments, he tried to change the topic in a considerably more polite manner than i would have done if i had been in his position and he topped it off with a solid performance of a good quality song.

I mean that man is clearly talented but just got caught up in a bad thing. Most people who hate him like Amy Winehouse, a woman who launced her music carreer with a song about not giving up drugs and it's all sympathy for her! Get over his addiction and listen to his music! He's also a nice guy, i met him once and he told me i smelt nice...like a country barn! Ok...i know the country barn bit was a bit strange, but i'v had alot worse said about me!!

jonny oxford

It was hard to watch. Pat Kennys preparation for the interview was minimal it seems, while I think Pat was right to ask about Petes addiction problems, as to most people this is what he is most known for, it surely didn't require that many questions on the subject.

There was very little/no mention of his songwriting or his time in and success with the Libertines. I think Pat could have used this interview to let the average person learn of the all to often ignored talents of Doherty.

Pete himself is often difficult to watch in any interview with all his squirming and fidgeting, but I would have thought Pat Kenny with his many years of experience wouldn't have been thrown by this.

Mingey

What was the woman in the audience shouting?

PauloMN

Interesting that Kenny is getting the flack for the interview. If Doherty was so super uber intelligent with his A-levels etc., he could have turned that interview any way he wanted. If he was so clever, he'd have known damn well that he was going to get probed about drugs and Kate Moss, and would have been prepared to direct the interview the way he wanted. Kenny asked him about drugs etc., he also tried to ask him about his Irish connections and got absolutely nowhere with that, and he also tried to ask him about when they'd be playing in Ireland and go nowhere with that.

If Doherty doesn't want to be asked about drugs, he shouldn't go on shows like the Late Late.

There's no doubt Doherty has talent, but there's also no doubt that he's a skag head who has completely ruined himself and destroyed his family from what I can see. The only benefit of bringing on junkies like him is to show people what they risk doing to themselves when they dabble.

mikom

PauloMN wrote: »

The only benefit of bringing on junkies like him is to show people what they risk doing to themselves when they dabble.

As compared to looking at Pat and seeing what they risk doing to themselves when they don't dabble.

Any lad down my local could have got more out of Pete Doherty than Kenny did that night. He was made to look more of a junkie by Kenny with his line of questioning.

Plus I have never seen so much extreme camera close ups of a guest in all my years watching the Late Late. Twas an attempt to to show the "junkie" side without paying much attention to the musician side.

Less camera, more banter please. What ever happened to the Irish conversationalists. Everything need not be the Nixon/frost interviews.

Mingey

I agree, the extreme close-up made it more uncomfortable to watch x 100

PauloMN

mikom wrote: »

As compared to looking at Pat and seeing what they risk doing to themselves when they don't dabble.

No, if they don't abuse drugs like Doherty, they have a choice about how they end up. If they do, it's a path to destruction, and Doherty is well on the way there by the looks of him.

mikom wrote: »

Any lad down my local could have got more out of Pete Doherty than Kenny did that night. He was made to look more of a junkie by Kenny with his line of questioning.

It's always everyone elses' fault with junkies. He has made himself look/act/sound the way he does all by himself. He's a big boy.

And the belief that someone other than Kenny would magically have gotten nuggets of inspiration out of that guy is laughable. Like I say, Doherty is obviously a clever person, but his brain is mush. He could have directed that interview any way he wanted had he been capable of clear thought. It's quite obvious he wasn't though, and that's nobody's fault but his own.

mikom wrote: »

Plus I have never seen so much extreme camera close ups of a guest in all my years watching the Late Late. Twas an attempt to to show the "junkie" side without paying much attention to the musician side.

No more close-ups than usual imo. Was just more noticeable because of the state of him.

mikom wrote: »

Less camera, more banter please. What ever happened to the Irish conversationalists. Everything need not be the Nixon/frost interviews.

So they shouldn't have let him play a song? More incoherent babble instead? No, I think it was a good idea to let him play. They did want to show his talent after all.

mikom

PauloMN wrote: »

It's always everyone elses' fault with junkies. He has made himself look/act/sound the way he does all by himself. He's a big boy.

And the belief that someone other than Kenny would magically have gotten nuggets of inspiration out of that guy is laughable. Like I say, Doherty is obviously a clever person, but his brain is mush. He could have directed that interview any way he wanted had he been capable of clear thought. It's quite obvious he wasn't though, and that's nobody's fault but his own.

Still had to drag it out of him, but eventually ross got his motor humming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r58JvdMXe30

and probably the best and most honest interview I have ever seen conducted with Doherty....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsfEBeGMcz0

PauloMN wrote: »

No more close-ups than usual imo. Was just more noticeable because of the state of him.

Trust me there was a lot more. You will never see that many close ups on Kenny. And if you did the grain would show. :pac:

PauloMN wrote: »

So they shouldn't have let him play a song? More incoherent babble instead? No, I think it was a good idea to let him play. They did want to show his talent after all.

Did I say that. I must be talking in my sleep again.

skybluejay

Ugh. I generally see the Peter of now as a separate person from the one who made music with the Libs - music which really meant something to me and influenced me and led me to discover new music. Denial, i suppose. But it's interviews like the one with Plank Kenny that bring the two Peters jarringly together. I wish the world-at-large didn't know him solely for his drug use and antics with Kate Moss.. but seeing him nowadays, you can't help but think, is that all there is to him now?

Stevieo wrote: »

I was one of the lucky enough people to get access to the Trinity interview, and I can testify that there were plenty of risque personal topics touched on (if you haven't heard); his son and drug problems were discussed, and one person even asked "So how is it with Carl these days?".

I wish I'd been there. How did he say it was with Carl these days?

rexsavage

He answered the questions that were directed to him about his irish connections and the question by Kenny about any Irish shows was put to him during the time that the audience was applauding which made it hard to feel that Kenny actually gave a crap about his future tour plans in Ireland, it was just more of a side note that probably got shouted in his ear after he had completely forgot to ask any real music related questions!

deathkit

I have just re-watched the interview with Pete Doherty on the Late Late Show, and yes, it was just as bad the second time around. Not only was Pat Kennys interviewing technique appalling, but he was completely ignorant to his guests' discomfort and made it blatantly obvious that he knew nothing about the man or his music except for what he read off the tabloids. I'm by no means a fan of Pete Doherty or his music but found myself cringing (both times) on his behalf at the relentless reference to drugs, family upset and so called waste of talent. I honestly thought that an interviewer of Pat Kennys' experience would be more professional. What an embarrassment.