Triton T90xr experts

Sleeper12

Snake Plisken wrote: »

So my trustworthy T90i which was installed in 1998 finally died this evening, I thought I could buy one and fit it myself just wondering was the T90i a 8.5Kw shower and if so the latest T90z is also 8.5Kw rated so should be straight swap correct? If so do I need to replace the pull cord isolation switch? Also on the plumbing side do i need any additional fittings to connect it and for drilling the tiles what size drill bit and fixing screws should i get?

The t90i came in 8.5kw and 9.5kw. It's not important to replace like with like. It's much more important to fit the correct size (KW) shower. You need find out if you have 6mm or 10mm cable. If it is 6mm you definitely can't go with the 9.5kw. Also most likely you'll need a REC to upgrade the fuse at the fuse box. If you don't have a 40 amp rcbo then you need one.

Snake Plisken

Sleeper12 wrote: »

The t90i came in 8.5kw and 9.5kw. It's not important to replace like with like. It's much more important to fit the correct size (KW) shower. You need find out if you have 6mm or 10mm cable. If it is 6mm you definitely can't go with the 9.5kw. Also most likely you'll need a REC to upgrade the fuse at the fuse box. If you don't have a 40 amp rcbo then you need one.

40amp Rcbo already in place on the fuse box, I think I will err on the side of caution and go 8.5Kw, more worried about the plumbing side, any idea will I need to use any type of sealer at the joint it'll additional fittings I need to purchase, or is it straight forward enough?

Sleeper12

Snake Plisken wrote: »

40amp Rcbo already in place on the fuse box, I think I will err on the side of caution and go 8.5Kw, more worried about the plumbing side, any idea will I need to use any type of sealer at the joint it'll additional fittings I need to purchase, or is it straight forward enough?

You get all the fittings you need in the box. It's straight forward enough

Snake Plisken

Picked the new T90 up tonight, but no wall fixing screws or plugs included what size should I get for this? Also Is it ok to re-use the existing compression fitting?

Sleeper12

Snake Plisken wrote: »

Picked the new T90 up tonight, but no wall fixing screws or plugs included what size should I get for this? Also Is it ok to re-use the existing compression fitting?

I always leave the elbow on the pipe so you only have to fit a nut & ring to the shower.

Get a new tile bit 6mm, red plugs & 5x40mm screws

Snake Plisken

Sleeper12 wrote: »

I always leave the elbow on the pipe so you only have to fit a nut & ring to the shower.

Get a new tile bit 6mm, red plugs & 5x40mm screws

Thanks for your help sleeper finally got it done straight forward enough the nut was a bit of pain to get off but did in the end picked up the bits you recommended above and mounted it.

Couple of additional questions where the pipe comes out of the plasterboard wall there is a small square opening is it ok to seal that up as to stop any water leaking into the cavity? If so what would you recommend? It's only a small square inch x inch approx.
The wiring coming out of the wall is shielded no damage and good and thick but the earth wire is bare copper was thinking of insulating it in some way.
Where the black plate is screwed into the wall on the pipe side at the top there is a small gag probably 3 to 4 mm think it's due to the pipe work jutting out a button that side can I use silicon to seal around the backplate, I think I read somewhere no to as its used for air intake or something.

Thanks

Sleeper12

Snake Plisken wrote: »

Thanks for your help sleeper finally got it done straight forward enough the nut was a bit of pain to get off but did in the end picked up the bits you recommended above and mounted it.

Couple of additional questions where the pipe comes out of the plasterboard wall there is a small square opening is it ok to seal that up as to stop any water leaking into the cavity? If so what would you recommend? It's only a small square inch x inch approx.
The wiring coming out of the wall is shielded no damage and good and thick but the earth wire is bare copper was thinking of insulating it in some way.
Where the black plate is screwed into the wall on the pipe side at the top there is a small gag probably 3 to 4 mm think it's due to the pipe work jutting out a button that side can I use silicon to seal around the backplate, I think I read somewhere no to as its used for air intake or something.

Thanks

The hole you can fill with silicone if you are worried but there is no need to do it.

The earth wire is fine as it is but I'm sure a sparks will tell you the regulations say it should have a sleeve.

The shower manufacturer prefers no silicone around the shower. I try not use it most of the time but sometimes you just have to. If you feel like you need silicone on the top & left side then use silicone.

zetecescort

have a t90 xr that is dripping from the shower head when off. anything I can check before I go ordering parts?

Sleeper12

zetecescort wrote: »

have a t90 xr that is dripping from the shower head when off. anything I can check before I go ordering parts?

You need to replace the solenoid.

armstrongracer

Impellor on my T90si sheared again, second one in 3 years. Think this T90 has hit the end of it's useful life. The water pipe comes through the tiles, if I get a newer model T90 does anyone know if the water inlet is in the same place? I don't really want to be drilling through the tiles if I can avoid it.

Robbie.G

armstrongracer wrote: »

Impellor on my T90si sheared again, second one in 3 years. Think this T90 has hit the end of it's useful life. The water pipe comes through the tiles, if I get a newer model T90 does anyone know if the water inlet is in the same place? I don't really want to be drilling through the tiles if I can avoid it.

The water and power connections are in the same place there are different fixing holes though

65535

Have you tried the Plumbing & Heating Forum

vtiniall

Hi All,

I hope this goes to the right people here ;-). I have a Triton T90xr shower. We have had this model for a while and it is or was faultless. The issue we are having now is that you can have the shower on a the lowest setting, that being cold and there is no cold water feeding into the shower. The heat is set to the indicator of one red wavie line and the temperature guage is turned to cold and still the water is too hot to use.

Would this be the pump is knackered or would it be best to change the shower for a newer model

flyguy

Don't know if this is your issue but I find in the summer the water in the attic tank obviously gets warmer during the day. The way electric shower works is very basic, the element heats always the same the only way it changes temp is by letting more or less water through (that's what you do with the dial). If the water is already warm it might get too hot on the lowest setting. My triton has three settings; cold, medium and full heat (the "red wavie line"). In the summer I often have to change it to med heat if I don't want it too hot.
If that doesn't solve the issue seems like a flow problem, as in not enough water coming through, could be the pump.
Edit: re-read your post and think you already have it on med setting...

vtiniall

Hi,

I have the top dial turned to the single red wavie line and the bottom dial turned fully to cold and yet the water still is far too hot to stand under.

Normally even only two months ago I would have the dial moved to the first red wavie line and the bottom dial would be turn down and the temperature would be spot on.

Ill have a look at it and go from there.

byte

Have you noticed the water flow lessening?

vtiniall

Morning All,

I went home and replace the Triton shower head, which I might add was an after market enlarged shower head. Again this was working perfectly for well over two years and not just recently. Anywho, I replaced it with a smaller shower head from the tap fed sprinkler system I have attached to the bad. It is now working perfectly across all the thermostat range. No more over heated water.

Just wanted to say thanks for everyone's input. It is all good in the hood, once again.

Sleeper12

It's always worth spending the 30 odd euro on a genuine Triton or mira shower head. These are designed with the correct amount & sized holes for an electric shower. Other shower heads for example tesco 10 euro shower head can cause the shower to go hot & cold.

Corcioch

Hey Folks,

Looking for advice on a Triton T90xr.

I think the power selector (if thats the correct name for the part) is faulty.

The Cold setting works fine, the first hot water setting works fine but when I turn the selector to the second hot water setting - the more powerful one - nothing changes.

Its been like this a while and works fine as is, I have warm water as per the first hot water setting - but its winter now and I need the higher power setting or the water is not warm enough. I also miss the higher water flow from the higher power setting.

Is this a comon fault and does anyone know if I can replace a part as opposed to the whole unit.

Any help appreciated,

Thanks.

Sleeper12

It's most likely one of the 2 elements has blown. You can expect to pay 150 euro supplied and fitted. Another possibility (though not as likely) is a blown micro switch. This would be 90 to 100 Euro to have replaced. Remember you get on average 10 years out of an electric shower. If yours is around 8 years old you might consider replacing it instead of spending money repairing it

Corcioch

Sleeper12 wrote: »

It's most likely one of the 2 elements has blown. You can expect to pay 150 euro supplied and fitted. Another possibility (though not as likely) is a blown micro switch. This would be 90 to 100 Euro to have replaced. Remember you get on average 10 years out of an electric shower. If yours is around 8 years old you might consider replacing it instead of spending money repairing it

Thanks.

Its only about 3/4 years old.

I was hoping to repair it myself if I could be certain what was gone but I guess if it could be more than one thing I better get a guy to look at it.

I would wonder if I would not be better off with a new one if its €150 +

Thanks.


Is the T150Z much better and most importantly quieter than a T90Z??

Thanks

Sleeper12

Corcioch wrote:

Is the T150Z much better and most importantly quieter than a T90Z??

It's much quieter. Only problem is it doesn't have a pump as its a mains fed shower. Your shower is a tank fed shower.

Corcioch

Sleeper12 wrote: »

It's much quieter. Only problem is it doesn't have a pump as its a mains fed shower. Your shower is a tank fed shower.

Are you sure?

http://plumbfix.ie/bathroom-kitchen/showersa/triton/t150z-pumped-thermostatic-shower.html

http://www.plumbworld.co.uk/triton-t150z-pumped-18614-22860

dodzy

Corcioch wrote: »

Are you sure?

http://plumbfix.ie/bathroom-kitchen/showersa/triton/t150z-pumped-thermostatic-shower.html

http://www.plumbworld.co.uk/triton-t150z-pumped-18614-22860

T150Z is mains fed. 100%.

EDIT: I got to thinking and as it happens I'm wrong, sort of

There's two T150Z models that serve both tank or mains. They are bloody expensive though. €425 for the tank fed and €350 for mains approx.

Corcioch

dodzy wrote: »

T150Z is mains fed. 100%.

EDIT: I got to thinking and as it happens I'm wrong, sort of

There's two T150Z models that serve both tank or mains. They are bloody expensive though. €425 for the tank fed and €350 for mains approx.

Thanks. Appreciate the replies.

I can get the T150Z from a UK shop for €300.

Its something to consider.

Thanks again.

Sleeper12

Corcioch wrote:

I can get the T150Z from a UK shop for €300.

Check the triton Ireland website. If it's not listed there then it's not covered by any Irish warranty. Triton Ireland not only won't repair it but they won't have parts of the nor will they order them in for you. Your warranty will be with the UK stockist.
Always be careful when buying showers in screwfix, B&Q, argus etc. They sell some showers only intended for the UK.

Corcioch

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Check the triton Ireland website. If it's not listed there then it's not covered by any Irish warranty. Triton Ireland not only won't repair it but they won't have parts of the nor will they order them in for you. Your warranty will be with the UK stockist.
Always be careful when buying showers in screwfix, B&Q, argus etc. They sell some showers only intended for the UK.

I understand the gamble - thanks - and I do appreciate the advice - but with such a saving I stand to make it has to be considered.

I am not hugely worried about parts etc. I am very slow to repair anything these days unless I can do it myself. I've had technicians out to repair white goods before and paid a pretty penny for it (a fair wage mind you - I'm not saying it wasn't) and then had the item break in a different way few months later.

If the repair could be 150 Id be mad seeing as I can get a new T90Z for 200 ish.

Sleeper12

I was warning in general. As it turns out triton Ireland do supply the t150z so you will be fine

dodzy

Sleeper12 wrote: »

I was warning in general. As it turns out triton Ireland do supply the t150z so you will be fine

Yep, and readily available in decent plumbing suppliers.

Just had one of these fitted and the water could only be described as lukewarm. Unfortunately I wasn't around the day the fitter was there, but I rang him and he just said its a new shower so it must be working perfectly.
Not happy with this obviously so will have to take it further. What might the issue be? Is there a setting that needs to be adjusted or might it be something more complex?